I sent a message to my friends that have dealt with them before. I am not an organizer for this so I don't want to piss anyone off. Once I have a reply I'm not doing anything until I hear from the organizers themselves. If they don't want my help or would rather go with what they know (Loose Moose) then I'll respect their wishes.
you won't piss anybody off. i'm on the same boat as many. hard rock cafe would be great. it's close, and we can eat outside the place.
Irish embassy is a bit small. Gracie O'malleys is really decent, and the shopsy's place at yonge & front is farther but big outside for downtown.
hard rock is crap and overrated, service is shitty. elephant and castle has good taps, can't remember what the service was like though. fionn macools on Bay or in or around there near the sheraton is pretty good though and they are always up for reserving tables etc. and that one has particularly good service.
not that that means anything, just thought I'd mention having had a lot of family over from Ireland recently and trying to entertain them in TO.
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Irish embassy is a bit small. Gracie O'malleys is really decent, and the shopsy's place at yonge & front is farther but big outside for downtown.
hard rock is crap and overrated, service is shitty. elephant and castle has good taps, can't remember what the service was like though. fionn macools on Bay or in or around there near the sheraton is pretty good though and they are always up for reserving tables etc. and that one has particularly good service.
not that that means anything, just thought I'd mention having had a lot of family over from Ireland recently and trying to entertain them in TO.
Irish Embassy is small as is Fionn Macools if I remember correctly. Gracie O'Malleys has SHIT service..took me almost 2 hours to get food (they weren't even busy when I first placed my order!!) and they couldn't even cook a clubhouse properly (I sent mine back THREE times cause they kept burinng it until I gave up and ordered something different cause I was soo hungry and pissed off). I'll NEVER eat there again. Shopsys has a great patio but the inside is kinda smallish.
I work in the area so I'll walk by the Elephant and Castle this week and scope out the size and check for any other potential places.
I'll let you all know about Hard Rock too...once I know anytihng.
"Rock and roll is something that can't be quantified, sometimes it's not even something you hear, but FEEL!" - Bob Lefsetz
I don't live in Toronto but have dined at the Elephant and Castle and it was great! Great food & drink! The back of the restaurant would be perfect for the Pre-Party.
I seem to remember The Hard Rock Cafe being quite expensive and more of a sit down kind of atmosphere. This'll prove to be quite difficult when trying to make some new PJ friends.
I don't live in Toronto but have dined at the Elephant and Castle and it was great! Great food & drink! The back of the restaurant would be perfect for the Pre-Party.
I seem to remember The Hard Rock Cafe being quite expensive and more of a sit down kind of atmosphere. This'll prove to be quite difficult when trying to make some new PJ friends.
My 2cents
Can't wait to meet you all! Rock on!
i get to meet Brian next month? sweet!
so far it's hard rock cafe, loose moose & the elephant and the castle .. as the 3 main places many here would like to have the preparties at.
by the end of this week, will gather as much information as possible and get the ball rolling on the place to host the parties.
Just spoke with a friend of mine (Craig Lauzon from The Air Farce) who frequents downtown establishments quite often and he suggests the The Red Lion
Craig: "The Red Lion. It's on Jarvis St. and it' s not too far from Massey. You could definitely walk it or take a cab. It's a great place lends itself well to the things you are looking for plus more. I've been there tons of times. It's a local for a lot of comedians you may see some of our Nations finest while you imbibe. That is my best recommendation."
The Red Lion Pub
449 Jarvis Street
M4Y 2G8
(416) 967-5551
Although the loose moose is a bit of a walk, we know they're set up for this type of stuff. Hard Rock has a decent patio - but that's about all it has going for it.
Anyway, going to both nights, will be at the preparty 1st night.
remember those random freebie dvds i gave out at the tables? well, will be posting something sweet later night; before or after .. or between the vh1 who broadcast. stay tuned!
if there's a small amount of cash left over and/or you'd perhaps consider another worthy cause to make a generous donation to, i'd suggest the White Ribbon Campaign (PJ contributed funds from the '05 and one of the '06 Toronto shows to said cause):
To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
elephant and castle is a pretty cool and somewhat classy place. i'm in for whatever place you guys choose.
on another note.............do you think people will be sitting or standing for the shows? will people be having a lot to drink beforehand? anyone bringing any signs or anything like that, seeing as it's so small in there?
elephant and castle is a pretty cool and somewhat classy place. i'm in for whatever place you guys choose.
on another note.............do you think people will be sitting or standing for the shows? will people be having a lot to drink beforehand? anyone bringing any signs or anything like that, seeing as it's so small in there?
just wondering.
it will be a sitting jam. but when the ed finishes the song, stand and go crazy!!!!
last few songs in santa barbara & la1, we stood up.
hmmm .. we might have to start a crowd surfing thing at massey hall.
I like the idea of the Elephant & Castle. Like I have said in a couple of other posts, when I lived in London and when I went back, the E & C there is really nice, and has lots of good, unique beers on tap, so I would except that the Toronto one would be somewhat similar at worse, which is damn fine
1998 ~ Barrie
2003 ~ Toronto
2005 ~ London, Toronto
2006 ~ Toronto
2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
holy shit Demetrios, that's so awesome, I want them so bad lol
definitly spending $ 20 at least on raffle tickets so I have a chance of getting 55 PJ DVDs
can't wait for that week in August, feels like it's right around the corner
1998 ~ Barrie
2003 ~ Toronto
2005 ~ London, Toronto
2006 ~ Toronto
2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
Hey Demetrios, if it is definitely going to be at the Elephant and Castle, please add my name to the list. Cheers!
2000: Montreal 2003: Toronto 2005: Toronto 2006: Toronto x2 2008: MSG x2, Montreal x2 (EV), Toronto x2 (EV) 2009: Toronto 2010: Buffalo 2011: Detroit (EV), PJ20 x2, Montreal, Toronto x2, Ottawa, Hamilton 2013: London, Buffalo, Brooklyn x2, Philly x2 2014: Detroit 2016: Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto x2, Fenway x2 2018: Home Shows x2 2020: L.A. x2, Oakland x2 2023: Seattle x2 (EV) 2024: Vancouver x2, Seattle N2
1998 ~ Barrie
2003 ~ Toronto
2005 ~ London, Toronto
2006 ~ Toronto
2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
1998 ~ Barrie
2003 ~ Toronto
2005 ~ London, Toronto
2006 ~ Toronto
2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
Hey Demetrios, if it is definitely going to be at the Elephant and Castle, please add my name to the list. Cheers!
i've sent them an email. i have a few friends that will talk to management up front who live in the area. will call them tomorrow. i got half day off work.
i'm hoping it's official there at the elephant and castle place!
if there's a small amount of cash left over and/or you'd perhaps consider another worthy cause to make a generous donation to, i'd suggest the White Ribbon Campaign (PJ contributed funds from the '05 and one of the '06 Toronto shows to said cause):
have you considered said charity and would it be possible to perhaps donate some portion of the funds raised at the pre-party to the cause? as i previously mentioned, it's "PJ-approved"
To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
both Toronto preparties will be held at the Elephant & Castle Pub & Restaurant!
check the front page for updates, locations, goodies & treats!
here's the email I got back from the general manager:
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Hello Demetrios,
That sounds great, thank you for Contacting us and letting us know ahead of time of all the festives on those days.
We have a private party on our upper Mezzanine level on the Tuesday - but the downstairs area will be open. I dont forsee any problems.
Look forward to seeing your group - and have fun at the concerts.
Cheers
Nicole
Nicole Exner
General Manager
Elephant & Castle Pub & Restaurant
378 Yonge St.
Toronto, ON
M5B 1S6
have you considered said charity and would it be possible to perhaps donate some portion of the funds raised at the pre-party to the cause? as i previously mentioned, it's "PJ-approved"
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you won't piss anybody off. i'm on the same boat as many. hard rock cafe would be great. it's close, and we can eat outside the place.
hard rock is crap and overrated, service is shitty. elephant and castle has good taps, can't remember what the service was like though. fionn macools on Bay or in or around there near the sheraton is pretty good though and they are always up for reserving tables etc. and that one has particularly good service.
not that that means anything, just thought I'd mention having had a lot of family over from Ireland recently and trying to entertain them in TO.
So no one catches you?
Irish Embassy is small as is Fionn Macools if I remember correctly. Gracie O'Malleys has SHIT service..took me almost 2 hours to get food (they weren't even busy when I first placed my order!!) and they couldn't even cook a clubhouse properly (I sent mine back THREE times cause they kept burinng it until I gave up and ordered something different cause I was soo hungry and pissed off). I'll NEVER eat there again. Shopsys has a great patio but the inside is kinda smallish.
I work in the area so I'll walk by the Elephant and Castle this week and scope out the size and check for any other potential places.
I'll let you all know about Hard Rock too...once I know anytihng.
Can't wait for the EV shows in Toronto!
I love the idea of a Pre-Party!
I don't live in Toronto but have dined at the Elephant and Castle and it was great! Great food & drink! The back of the restaurant would be perfect for the Pre-Party.
I seem to remember The Hard Rock Cafe being quite expensive and more of a sit down kind of atmosphere. This'll prove to be quite difficult when trying to make some new PJ friends.
My 2cents
Can't wait to meet you all! Rock on!
Pearl Jam Live
spencer@pearljamlive.com
http://www.pearljamlive.com
http://www.huntingtonsociety.ca/english/index.asp
&
http://www.ccfc.ca/English/index.html
i get to meet Brian next month? sweet!
so far it's hard rock cafe, loose moose & the elephant and the castle .. as the 3 main places many here would like to have the preparties at.
by the end of this week, will gather as much information as possible and get the ball rolling on the place to host the parties.
Just spoke with a friend of mine (Craig Lauzon from The Air Farce) who frequents downtown establishments quite often and he suggests the The Red Lion
Craig: "The Red Lion. It's on Jarvis St. and it' s not too far from Massey. You could definitely walk it or take a cab. It's a great place lends itself well to the things you are looking for plus more. I've been there tons of times. It's a local for a lot of comedians you may see some of our Nations finest while you imbibe. That is my best recommendation."
The Red Lion Pub
449 Jarvis Street
M4Y 2G8
(416) 967-5551
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&safe=off&ie=UTF-8&q=red+lion&near=Toronto,+ON,+Canada&fb=1&cid=10735498574843518044&li=lmd&z=14&t=m
Keep me posted,
Pearl Jam Live
spencer@pearljamlive.com
http://www.pearljamlive.com
Anyway, going to both nights, will be at the preparty 1st night.
The Elephant & Castle Pub
378 Yonge Street
Toronto, ON
M5B 1S6
416-598-4003
http://www.elephantcastle.com/content/locations/toronto_yonge_st
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=378+Yonge+Street&daddr=178+Victoria+Street,+Toronto,+M5B+1T7,+Canada&sll=43.654537,-79.378603&sspn=0.007359,0.013218&ie=UTF8&ll=43.656323,-79.380255&spn=0.007359,0.013218&z=16
a minute away drive to Massey Hall!
2 Beneficiary i've been thinking on getting for both nights:
http://www.huntingtonsociety.ca/english/index.asp
&
http://www.ccfc.ca/English/index.html
what do you guy's think? if it's ok, will book these up for the 2 nights.
if there's a small amount of cash left over and/or you'd perhaps consider another worthy cause to make a generous donation to, i'd suggest the White Ribbon Campaign (PJ contributed funds from the '05 and one of the '06 Toronto shows to said cause):
http://www.whiteribbon.ca/
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
on another note.............do you think people will be sitting or standing for the shows? will people be having a lot to drink beforehand? anyone bringing any signs or anything like that, seeing as it's so small in there?
just wondering.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=295028
it will be a sitting jam. but when the ed finishes the song, stand and go crazy!!!!
last few songs in santa barbara & la1, we stood up.
hmmm .. we might have to start a crowd surfing thing at massey hall.
2003 ~ Toronto
2005 ~ London, Toronto
2006 ~ Toronto
2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
You should most definitely try to come to the first night so we can finally meet!
Although dragging your dad to the preparty might not be the best way to go...:D
2005: Kitchener/Hamilton/Toronto
2006: Toronto 1 & 2
2008: Hartford/EV Toronto 1 & 2
2009: Toronto/Philadelphia 3 & 4
2010: Buffalo
2011: Montreal/Toronto 1 & 2/Hamilton
2013: London/Buffalo/Vancouver/Seattle
2016: Toronto 1 & 2
2022: Hamilton/Toronto
2023: EV Seattle 1&2
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj29/demetriosns/augustprepartydonations.jpg
holy shit Demetrios, that's so awesome, I want them so bad lol
definitly spending $ 20 at least on raffle tickets so I have a chance of getting 55 PJ DVDs
can't wait for that week in August, feels like it's right around the corner
2003 ~ Toronto
2005 ~ London, Toronto
2006 ~ Toronto
2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
Well, tomorrow it's three weeks away!!!
2023: Seattle x2 (EV) 2024: Vancouver x2, Seattle N2
holy shit, that is true !!!
where is the time going
2003 ~ Toronto
2005 ~ London, Toronto
2006 ~ Toronto
2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
3 weeks today :eek:
2003 ~ Toronto
2005 ~ London, Toronto
2006 ~ Toronto
2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
ah yeah!
i've sent them an email. i have a few friends that will talk to management up front who live in the area. will call them tomorrow. i got half day off work.
i'm hoping it's official there at the elephant and castle place!
demetrios,
have you considered said charity and would it be possible to perhaps donate some portion of the funds raised at the pre-party to the cause? as i previously mentioned, it's "PJ-approved"
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
both Toronto preparties will be held at the Elephant & Castle Pub & Restaurant!
check the front page for updates, locations, goodies & treats!
here's the email I got back from the general manager:
---
Hello Demetrios,
That sounds great, thank you for Contacting us and letting us know ahead of time of all the festives on those days.
We have a private party on our upper Mezzanine level on the Tuesday - but the downstairs area will be open. I dont forsee any problems.
Look forward to seeing your group - and have fun at the concerts.
Cheers
Nicole
Nicole Exner
General Manager
Elephant & Castle Pub & Restaurant
378 Yonge St.
Toronto, ON
M5B 1S6
i'll check that out. thanks!