anybody have any idea of a website that shows ticket sales figures past or present? i'd love to know the percentages of unsold seats in each market...i'd bet the south holds its own...
i wonder if this isn't just the latest talking point....first, through jeff they were wistfully confused....we're not playing places we should be....so now it's somehow due to not selling well in the south? hogwash!
prove it.
i can't patronize the band if i wanted to (even if i overlooked the obvious 'fuck you' they seem to be giving us) because i couldn't afford to travel so far, especially without knowing that if i wanted to see them at all i'd have to travel to do so
and yes, now i'm really starting to see it as an intentional skip. the thread about stone's chat and there's another one about when's the last time pearl jam didn't sell out a show that includes the gorge and australia and others.....kinda says it all to me. some of the australia shows are only HALF SOLD. hauling all your shit to australia on a 16 hour plane flight can't possibly be more economically beneficial than hauling it a few hours down south on 8 or 10 trucks for some shows that are more like 90% sold out
to quote one of my favorites:
why would you want to hurt me?
so frightened of your pain...
anybody have any idea of a website that shows ticket sales figures past or present? i'd love to know the percentages of unsold seats in each market...i'd bet the south holds its own...
i wonder if this isn't just the latest talking point....first, through jeff they were wistfully confused....we're not playing places we should be....so now it's somehow due to not selling well in the south? hogwash!
prove it.
i can't patronize the band if i wanted to (even if i overlooked the obvious 'fuck you' they seem to be giving us) because i couldn't afford to travel so far, especially without knowing that if i wanted to see them at all i'd have to travel to do so
and yes, now i'm really starting to see it as an intentional skip. the thread about stone's chat and there's another one about when's the last time pearl jam didn't sell out a show that includes the gorge and australia and others.....kinda says it all to me. some of the australia shows are only HALF SOLD. hauling all your shit to australia on a 16 hour plane flight can't possibly be more economically beneficial than hauling it a few hours down south on 8 or 10 trucks for some shows that are more like 90% sold out
to quote one of my favorites:
why would you want to hurt me?
so frightened of your pain...
Maybe we can have a special donation table for Conservation international at the shows, to help with negative impact travel causes. If we all donate a little will you play the south? I would gladly donate. Even if they dont show up down here I will vow to donate yearly to them. That chat with Stone made me think just like they made me think how great the Surfrider Foundation is. As a scuba diver the worlds oceans touch my heart and I want to enjoy them for many years to come. Pearl jam has made me a member with them since 2000. Come to Florida please??!!
And sometimes is seen a strange spot in the sky,a human being that was given 2 fly - Bryan you are loved R.I.P
Maybe we can have a special donation table for Conservation international at the shows, to help with negative impact travel causes. If we all donate a little will you play the south? I would gladly donate. Even if they dont show up down here I will vow to donate yearly to them. That chat with Stone made me think just like they made me think how great the Surfrider Foundation is. As a scuba diver the worlds oceans touch my heart and I want to enjoy them for many years to come. Pearl jam has made me a member with them since 2000. Come to Florida please??!!
Although doanting to a good cause is nice, We shouldn't have to do that in order to get shows down here. That's ridiculous. If the rest of the country didn't have to do it...why should we have to fulfill certain requirements in order to get SOME shows? Know what I mean?
Our 10C membership renewals year after year should be enough "requisite" to get shows down here :(
:( *I'm sorry. This is just getting a bit frustrating already* :(
..I don't want to be held in your debt...
I'll pay it off in blood, let I be wed...
I'm already cut up and half dead...
I'll end up alone like I began...
Everything has chains...absolutely nothing's changed...~
******************************** "Forgive every being, the bad feelings it's just me"
hauling all your shit to australia on a 16 hour plane flight can't possibly be more economically beneficial than hauling it a few hours down south on 8 or 10 trucks for some shows that are more like 90% sold out
damn good point.
so like i said earlier, had i known, i would have made some other arrangements this summer and now its just too late. i'm still hopin for something in the spring, this just doesnt sound good at all to me.
Not a donation just to get a show but to help the cause because we are responsible. We want the guys to play and we want them to play a sold out show? Sold out shows mean a lot of traveling people and a lot of potential damage is created. I know the south is home to ALOT of fans. I was just thinking this is such an important cause to the boys and they are an important part of our lives. If that is a major reason in not touring the south lets help out. A donation not an automatic fee tacked on. I love the boys and want a show, if this is a major piece in the decision to not come here I will do my part to help offset. It was just an idea. See ya at the shows! (hopefully)
And sometimes is seen a strange spot in the sky,a human being that was given 2 fly - Bryan you are loved R.I.P
Not a donation just to get a show but to help the cause because we are responsible. We want the guys to play and we want them to play a sold out show? Sold out shows mean a lot of traveling people and a lot of potential damage is created. I know the south is home to ALOT of fans. I was just thinking this is such an important cause to the boys and they are an important part of our lives. If that is a major reason in not touring the south lets help out. A donation not an automatic fee tacked on. I love the boys and want a show, if this is a major piece in the decision to not come here I will do my part to help offset. It was just an idea. See ya at the shows! (hopefully)
I like the idea of donating to the cause It's just that...it almost feels like we have to "bribe" them to play here, or give 'em something, lol, I don't know, it just doesn't feel right. I don't know how to explain it
I think it's total bullshit that this band doesn't play anywhere near the south. I was fucking fortunate to see them in Denver, because I'm a college student and I could afford the time off. But fuck! For a band that's quote unquote for the fans the excuse of not selling out large venues is quite shitty. My outlook of this band has been damaged severely. Fuck sell outs, you sell outs! This band deserves no creditbility at all! They're like, dare I say, politicians that don't visit states because they know they're going to get thier ass handed to them in that respective state. For a band for the people, this band carries a way to large chip on thier shoulder. How dare they take a geographic portion of the U.S. because it typically doesn't sell. Here's something for them, Kat, and whoever to see. Bands that are currently better than Pearl Jam:
(1) Death Cab for Cutie
(2) Radiohead
(3) The Strokes
(4) Foo Fighters
(5) Red Hot Chili Peppers
(6) White Stripes
(7) Matisyahu
(8) Wolf Mother
(9) Green Day
(10) Hard-Fi
Hey Ed, how does it feel to know a Jared Leto fronted band is recieving more air play than yours?
The quote from Stone.....we could all be taking it out of context. Maybe he was referring to playing Louisiana, where let's face it, things are not back to normal and they probably would have a tough time selling out. If 10C can't announce something yet about a Southern tour, Stone sure isn't going to say something on a public interview. It just isn't logical to me that THIS BAND would pick some "reason" to "ban the South". For whatever reason, they skipped us, and the midwest, first time around. I'm still holding faith that they'll come around in '07. If 07 passes and they haven't....THEN IM GOING TO BE PISSED OFF BIG TIME!! In the meantime, I'm trying to keep my cool until we know something definite.
peace brothers......
and BUMP TO THE FRONT FOR THE SOUTH!!
~I want to realize brotherhood or identity not merely with the beings called human, but I want to realize identity with all life, even with such things as crawl upon earth.~
Mohandas K. Gandhi
~I once had a sparrow alight upon my shoulder for a moment, while I was hoeing in a village garden, and I felt that I was more distinguished by that circumstance than I should have been by any epaulette I could have worn.~
Henry David Thoreau
Here's a big FU for Stone's comments about not selling well in the South. Play smaller venues you freaking moron you still have a large contigency of fans here. Save on the environment by not having to make all the fans from the South travel across the U.S. or the world to see a show. I will guarantee everything I have that West Palm would out sale both Cinci, Grand Rapids, Albany, etc etc for god sake's you guys sunk low enough to play a seedy casino in Atlantic City why not the dirty South
P>S
I am sick of having to petition (now I know what discrimination is all about) I never realized you were suppose to live above the mason dixon line in order to be accounted as an important fan. Last I checked my dollar spends the same as a person living in uhh anywhere but the South.
do u mean to tell me that the south dates are not yet set in place and confirmed? geezus--what is taking so dammn friggin' long...
JUST EFFIN' DO IT, DO IT, DO IT!!!
DO IT DAMMIT--LET'S GET THIS THING GOING!!
Here's a big FU for Stone's comments about not selling well in the South. Play smaller venues you freaking moron you still have a large contigency of fans here. Save on the environment by not having to make all the fans from the South travel across the U.S. or the world to see a show. I will guarantee everything I have that West Palm would out sale both Cinci, Grand Rapids, Albany, etc etc for god sake's you guys sunk low enough to play a seedy casino in Atlantic City why not the dirty South
P>S
I am sick of having to petition (now I know what discrimination is all about) I never realized you were suppose to live above the mason dixon line in order to be accounted as an important fan. Last I checked my dollar spends the same as a person living in uhh anywhere but the South.
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
Understandable since there are almost 2000 posts in this thread, plus a lot of other threads and we can't get a straight answer. Just an offhand remark by Stone here and there and Jeff mentioning not playing places they "should be".
I mean they played nashville and birmingham last time which seemed to be places they did not have to play. Maybe they could just do the major cities.
Watch the name calling in this thread.........not everybody loves your city either says the man in Birmingham.
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
I'm getting there myself.......look there's no way that I am traveling to shitholes like Cincinnati, Boston or Pittsburgh. It's not happening....if that makes me a bad Pearl Jam fan, then so be it. The only towns of interest to me so far this year were either conflicting with final exams (yes, I am a 41 year old college student) or were dates with Tom Petty. I was not willing to spend the extra money to see less Pearl Jam and more Tom Petty.
Now if they go to some interesting cities, then I might travel like the wife and I did last year to Halifax.
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
I'm getting there myself.......look there's no way that I am traveling to shitholes like Cincinnati, Boston or Pittsburgh. It's not happening....if that makes me a bad Pearl Jam fan, then so be it. The only towns of interest to me so far this year were either conflicting with final exams (yes, I am a 41 year old college student) or were dates with Tom Petty. I was not willing to spend the extra money to see less Pearl Jam and more Tom Petty.
Now if they go to some interesting cities, then I might travel like the wife and I did last year to Halifax.
Boston is a nice place to visit for a PJ show. I've done that before. But yeah, I agree with you on the dates this year. I could only do Philly and that was only because it was a holiday weekend. Lucky. All the others conflicted with other stuff (work, family) and I wasn't going to travel to see PJ open for Petty.
My original plan was to hit all of the Texas shows and maybe one or two more outside of Texas. Well, I got the one or two more outside of Texas.
Boston is a nice place to visit for a PJ show. I've done that before. But yeah, I agree with you on the dates this year. I could only do Philly and that was only because it was a holiday weekend. Lucky. All the others conflicted with other stuff (work, family) and I wasn't going to travel to see PJ open for Petty.
My original plan was to hit all of the Texas shows and maybe one or two more outside of Texas. Well, I got the one or two more outside of Texas.
Went through Boston on the way to Halifax..........just not interested in visiting that city...damn, those people talk funny.......BTW, I am New York Yankees fan, so I don't like being around Boston fans. Now if I got back into marathon shape and could make the time, I might consider running the Boston Marathon.......
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
Went through Boston on the way to Halifax..........just not interested in visiting that city...damn, those people talk funny.......BTW, I am New York Yankees fan, so I don't like being around Boston fans. Now if I got back into marathon shape and could make the time, I might consider running the Boston Marathon.......
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I would say no. Atleast not from the diehards. They are missing a huge chance to convert people.
i would have to agree with you 100%...
im one of the diehards ill go no matter what...trying to keep the faith
i wonder if this isn't just the latest talking point....first, through jeff they were wistfully confused....we're not playing places we should be....so now it's somehow due to not selling well in the south? hogwash!
prove it.
i can't patronize the band if i wanted to (even if i overlooked the obvious 'fuck you' they seem to be giving us) because i couldn't afford to travel so far, especially without knowing that if i wanted to see them at all i'd have to travel to do so
and yes, now i'm really starting to see it as an intentional skip. the thread about stone's chat and there's another one about when's the last time pearl jam didn't sell out a show that includes the gorge and australia and others.....kinda says it all to me. some of the australia shows are only HALF SOLD. hauling all your shit to australia on a 16 hour plane flight can't possibly be more economically beneficial than hauling it a few hours down south on 8 or 10 trucks for some shows that are more like 90% sold out
to quote one of my favorites:
why would you want to hurt me?
so frightened of your pain...
ebay isn't evil people are
The South is Much Obliged
Exactly
♪ Juli ♪
Although doanting to a good cause is nice, We shouldn't have to do that in order to get shows down here. That's ridiculous. If the rest of the country didn't have to do it...why should we have to fulfill certain requirements in order to get SOME shows? Know what I mean?
Our 10C membership renewals year after year should be enough "requisite" to get shows down here :(
:( *I'm sorry. This is just getting a bit frustrating already* :(
♪ Juli ♪
I'll pay it off in blood, let I be wed...
I'm already cut up and half dead...
I'll end up alone like I began...
Everything has chains...absolutely nothing's changed...~
"Forgive every being,
the bad feelings
it's just me"
damn good point.
so like i said earlier, had i known, i would have made some other arrangements this summer and now its just too late. i'm still hopin for something in the spring, this just doesnt sound good at all to me.
so here's a goodnite bump for your ass
I like the idea of donating to the cause
♪ Juli ♪
(1) Death Cab for Cutie
(2) Radiohead
(3) The Strokes
(4) Foo Fighters
(5) Red Hot Chili Peppers
(6) White Stripes
(7) Matisyahu
(8) Wolf Mother
(9) Green Day
(10) Hard-Fi
Hey Ed, how does it feel to know a Jared Leto fronted band is recieving more air play than yours?
peace brothers......
and BUMP TO THE FRONT FOR THE SOUTH!!
Mohandas K. Gandhi
~I once had a sparrow alight upon my shoulder for a moment, while I was hoeing in a village garden, and I felt that I was more distinguished by that circumstance than I should have been by any epaulette I could have worn.~
Henry David Thoreau
now that is the quote of the day for me
P>S
I am sick of having to petition (now I know what discrimination is all about) I never realized you were suppose to live above the mason dixon line in order to be accounted as an important fan. Last I checked my dollar spends the same as a person living in uhh anywhere but the South.
JUST EFFIN' DO IT, DO IT, DO IT!!!
DO IT DAMMIT--LET'S GET THIS THING GOING!!
http://www.myspace.com/vedderology
I'll ride the wave where it takes me
I'll hold the pain...Release me...
Eddie Vedder
The natives are starting to get restless.
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
Understandable since there are almost 2000 posts in this thread, plus a lot of other threads and we can't get a straight answer. Just an offhand remark by Stone here and there and Jeff mentioning not playing places they "should be".
I wonder if the band is 100% behind the decision.
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
some funny pics on the RM board...
I mean they played nashville and birmingham last time which seemed to be places they did not have to play. Maybe they could just do the major cities.
:( I moved to atlatna so i could see more bands and now my favorite band is not touring here :(
Charlotte 03
Asheville 04
Atlanta 12
Greenville 16, Columbia 16
Seattle 18
Nashville 22
yes, the natives are pissed off now
Now if they go to some interesting cities, then I might travel like the wife and I did last year to Halifax.
Boston is a nice place to visit for a PJ show. I've done that before. But yeah, I agree with you on the dates this year. I could only do Philly and that was only because it was a holiday weekend. Lucky. All the others conflicted with other stuff (work, family) and I wasn't going to travel to see PJ open for Petty.
My original plan was to hit all of the Texas shows and maybe one or two more outside of Texas. Well, I got the one or two more outside of Texas.
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
Me being from Texas, all y'all talk funny!
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14