People who bring their kids to PJ shows...

DaytimeDilemma

nathanastin wrote:

I know what a rock show is; I've been to around 50 in my life and I am getting older and tired of spending money (especially now at $80+ a ticket) and want to have less smoke in my face. Sorry that I don't agree with your skewed view.

Skewed view?



Sorry you're getting older, but cmon man. This is a rock concert. It's not the opera, perhaps try there if you don't want to smell smoke or see people drinking.


I go to a concert to have fun and listen to music, not to appease all the old folks in the crowd.

4Powers20

chromiam wrote:

So, I have asthma and the smoke bothers and irritates that, I have no right to tell you to stop doing something illegal (smoking in a venue)??? Sorry but I'm well within my rights. And if you refuse, I have the right to tell an usher. I gave you your chance, you wanted to be a prick... ok.

As for the jumping, and singing along... its part of the show. I'll sure as hell be jumping and singing too. Now if you continue to jump on my legs, I'll sure as hell tell you to watch it. Remember the concert isn't just for YOU either.

you know what, if I lit a joint, and you turned to me and "listen, I have asthma and that smoke is really bothering me" I would respond with "Sorry give me 15 seconds and I will put it out" If that wasnt good enough for you, then I dont know what to tell you. It is a rock concert so you know this situation is going to occur. And if you did go and tell on me, just know by the time you get back with an usher i already be done and there would be nothing that could be done.

but like I said if you were cool about it, I would too.

inmytree

nathanastin wrote:

This is bullshit; what about us that want to see the show and paid the same money and do not want to be bothered by smoke in our faces and drunks falling all over us and puking and smelling like shit? I am not defending bringing kids, but just because it's a rock concert, doesn't mean you can ruin other peoples' times. I don't want to hear anymore shit about it being your right. I have rights too and pot smokers and cigarette smokers and drunks constantly infringe on my right to have a PLEASANT time seeing the band I love.

please tell me you're not going to SC or Virgina Beach...;)

chromiam

4Powers20 wrote:

you know what, if I lit a joint, and you turned to me and "listen, I have asthma and that smoke is really bothering me" I would respond with "Sorry give me 15 seconds and I will put it out" If that wasnt good enough for you, then I dont know what to tell you. It is a rock concert so you know this situation is going to occur. And if you did go and tell on me, just know by the time you get back with an usher i already be done and there would be nothing that could be done.

but like I said if you were cool about it, I would too.

See and that's what its all comes down to.. a little respect on all sides.

niner

chromiam wrote:

See and that's what its all comes down to.. a little respect on all sides.

OMG finally someone sees the fuckin light.
R-E-S-P-E-C-T! not respect my "rights to do blah, blah, blah"
just common, simple, human respect!

Ms. Haiku

I took my oldest niece when she was 12.
I took my only nephew when he was 10 (a couple weeks shy of 11)
and I'm taking my twin's oldest daughter this June. She will be 11. All 3 to their first concerts, not just first PJ concerts

I'm a worry wart extrodinaire. If it's unsafe in anyway, or if she is concerned, we are out of there. At the other two shows with my niece and nephew I didn't have any problems. Everyone around us were cool, and the bandmembers were cool.

GreenTeaDisease

Ms. Haiku wrote:

I took my oldest niece when she was 12.
I took my only nephew when he was 10 (a couple weeks shy of 11)
and I'm taking my twin's oldest daughter this June. She will be 11. All 3 to their first concerts, not just first PJ concerts

I'm a worry wart extrodinaire. If it's unsafe in anyway, or if she is concerned, we are out of there. At the other two shows with my niece and nephew I didn't have any problems. Everyone around us were cool, and the bandmembers were cool.

these are pretty decent ages though. there's a big difference between a 10-12 year old and a 2-4 year old. maybe not in terms of the "bad behavior" exposure people are talking about (which I think is moot concern for the most part), but in terms of the KID'S behavior know what I mean?

voodoopug

4Powers20 wrote:

you know what, if I lit a joint, and you turned to me and "listen, I have asthma and that smoke is really bothering me" I would respond with "Sorry give me 15 seconds and I will put it out" If that wasnt good enough for you, then I dont know what to tell you. It is a rock concert so you know this situation is going to occur. And if you did go and tell on me, just know by the time you get back with an usher i already be done and there would be nothing that could be done.

but like I said if you were cool about it, I would too.

I agree, that is all we are asking for.

soulshine

I think it all depends on the kid, I've met some really cool, laid back 8 yr. olds....lol. Both of my kids went to their first show at 13. They will be seeing their second show now at 17 & 15. I can honestly say I didn't have problems with drunkards around in the fan club seats, and the whiff of pot smoke lingered a few times, but they didn't notice. If someone lights up right next to us this go round, I'll have to think on my feet. But...sharing the whole PJ exp. with your kids is something really special if music is something your family enjoys...my kids happen to love 'em so to see them smiling through the whole show, and my daughter at 13 yrs. old screaming the words to evolution, and my son cranking his fists and showing emotion I didn't know he had, well, priceless.

GreenTeaDisease

nathanastin wrote:

This is bullshit; what about us that want to see the show and paid the same money and do not want to be bothered by smoke in our faces and drunks falling all over us and puking and smelling like shit?

um how about don't pay the money and go then?

it's a huge crowd of people. this is what happens when you go somewhere with a large crowd of people. you know the drill before you buy the ticket. there is a line between what is acceptable and what is not. If you "turn someone in" because they are smoking next to you, that's like crying wolf. I have been literally HARASSED by frat boys at a PJ show both in the show and after in the parking lot (threatening violence, egging us on by (not spilling) dumping beer over our heads, trying to get in my car, THROWING a grill at my car, jumping on the hood of my car, etc). I was literally afraid for my safety (and my brother's). THAT is a problem which should not be tolerated. Slight discomfort, unpleasant smells, being bumped into accidentally...these are, well, slight discomforts that are INEVITABLE in a large crowd and are expected and should be tolerated as long as everyone is safe and there's no really big incidents going on. Actually, you're like my dad- he can't tolerate any slight discomforts like the ones you get in big crowds, rock concerts, etc. so guess what, he doesn't go to them!

the only thing you can claim infringes on your so called "rights" as a ticket holder is if someone sneaks into your row. that's stealing. and my opinion (but I've still never turned anyone in for it).

Danimal

Take them to Chuck E Cheese and roll around in the balls with them.

rmst09

I took my ten year old to Lolla last year and he loved it. I figure that one of the surest ways to keep my son from growing into a drunk asshole is by having him watch some drunk assholes so he can see just how ridiculous they look. The best is when he saw some guys dragging their clearly intoxicated friend out from in front of the stage. It was the perfect opportunity to point out what happens when we drink too much. He just shook his head and muttered "What a Weirdo". Priceless....and educational.

voodoopug

Danimal wrote:

Take them to Chuck E Cheese and roll around in the balls with them.

This is a whole new story, but lets just say from experience, the management at Chuck E Cheese was not very pleased with me when I took my 6'1, 279lb frame into the ball pit. Thankfully, the cops were very understanding.

Dylan Stone

inmytree wrote:

how about what...?

ok, I'll try again...

don't be upset when a drunken Corey and Trevor slam into you child who has legal rights..

This is some stupid shit that you people are spewing.

If I'm at the show alone and drunken ass moronic idiots Trevor and Corey THAT I REALLY WISH WERE NOT AT THE SHOW...OR AT LEAST NOT SITTING NEAR ME...AND MAKE MY SHOW EXPERIENCE LESS FUN AND RATHER UNCOOL....

Well if drunken ass Corey and Trevor slam into me... and hurt me... I'm going to be upset.

I don't think anyone is speaking of bringing a 5 year old into a pit at the very front of the headlining act at Reading.

Give me a break........

HermanBloom

GreenTeaDisease wrote:

um how about don't pay the money and go then?

it's a huge crowd of people. this is what happens when you go somewhere with a large crowd of people. you know the drill before you buy the ticket. there is a line between what is acceptable and what is not. If you "turn someone in" because they are smoking next to you, that's like crying wolf. I have been literally HARASSED by frat boys at a PJ show both in the show and after in the parking lot (threatening violence, egging us on by (not spilling) dumping beer over our heads, trying to get in my car, THROWING a grill at my car, jumping on the hood of my car, etc). I was literally afraid for my safety (and my brother's). THAT is a problem which should not be tolerated. Slight discomfort, unpleasant smells, being bumped into accidentally...these are, well, slight discomforts that are INEVITABLE in a large crowd and are expected and should be tolerated as long as everyone is safe and there's no really big incidents going on. Actually, you're like my dad- he can't tolerate any slight discomforts like the ones you get in big crowds, rock concerts, etc. so guess what, he doesn't go to them!

the only thing you can claim infringes on your so called "rights" as a ticket holder is if someone sneaks into your row. that's stealing. and my opinion (but I've still never turned anyone in for it).

People that keep saying this is a rock show and a huge crowd and this is what happens are still wrong. You can't excuse wrong, and may I add illegal behavior, because that's what happens at rock shows. So if a girl gets raped at a show (like Woodstock) or people start fires, we can excuse it because it is a rock show? I have been to tons of shows and I have never told anyone to stop smoking or drinking, etc. However, I am posting to try to open peoples' eyes to those around them. Just because you are at a rock show and want to pollute the air, doesn't mean everyone is happy. I went to a Tool show recently and I could barely see the stage because there was too much cigarette and pot smoke. My eyes stung so bad after the show because of other peoples' inconsiderate actions. Is this what I expect from a rock show? Yes. Does that make it right, absolutely not. Some of this should be blamed on security for not doing their jobs, but also common decency comes into play. If you need to smoke, find a designated area. Just because you have no self control, doesn't mean I have to suffer as well. I know this is not the opera and I do not want to go to the opera. I want to see the band I love and I am perfectly in my rights to complain about assholes that care only for their own self gratification.

Danimal

voodoopug wrote:

This is a whole new story, but lets just say from experience, the management at Chuck E Cheese was not very pleased with me when I took my 6'1, 279lb frame into the ball pit. Thankfully, the cops were very understanding.

We'll I was kidding BUT THAT REPLY WAS HILARIOUS!

HermanBloom

inmytree wrote:

please tell me you're not going to SC or Virgina Beach...;)

Isn't that in the South?

voodoopug

Danimal wrote:

We'll I was kidding BUT THAT REPLY WAS HILARIOUS!

I only wish it wasn't true! Cheers buddy.

Dylan Stone

For what it's worth my Elmo listening, Dog Train Loving 2 year old just brought me a Pearl Jam tape (yes...an old boot...7-13-98) he knows the tapes are MY MUSIC NOT HIS...He brought it to me...took my hand and made me put it on. He is now shaking is head and dancing around...and clapping and jumping around between songs.

I don't plan to bring him to a show very soon...But this is why people bring kids to concerts. Because some kids dig it. My son's first word was at like 6 months. Music. He didn't have any others for a while.

AND...Like I said earlier. It's a personal decision. I probably think a lot of what you incredibly judgmental people do, say, allow your children to take part in etc...would not be in MY child's best interest....

Everyone is raised differently . That is what makes this world a beautiful diverse place.

JOEJOEJOE

I am usually tolerant of people smoking the weed as long as they do it quickly.

However, if someone is talking loudly thru the entire show, or infringing on my elbow room (no, not at a crowded ga show), I will sure as hell say something to them.

People are usually cool about it, however, some people are passive agressive, and make comments to there friends about not being allowed to talk, etc.