Chris Cornell Is Overrated

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  • glasshouse
    glasshouse Posts: 1,762
    i disagree

    although i'm definately not his biggest fan, i'll be an ignorant idiot not to admit that back in the day (badmotorfinger/superunknown) he sang like a posessed super hero.

    i'm definately a bigger robert plant fan, but not even the mighty plant could hold steady to chris at his best. just go and listen to the albums.
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  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    I never thought those words would come out of my mouth. but all the Cornell worship on this website has turned me against him. some of you people think he is a frontman the caliber of Robert Plant, Steven Tyler, or Roger Daltry. Newsflash: he's not even close.

    Vocally he surpassed all of them in the early 90's. As a frontman, yeah I totally see where you are coming, he lacks the charisma to compare to those people, but there is no taking away his vocal ability in the early 90's. I'll just say Birth Ritual and Say hello 2 heaven, and leave it at that.
  • wavescamecrashing
    wavescamecrashing Posts: 440
    Agreed with last two posts

    yes it is a matter of taste to an extent, but there's no denying talent.

    Whoever is dissing lyrics, check out Euphoria Morning please...Vedder is a better lyricist, but Cobain wasnt at all imo

    And the person saying that Nirvana paved the way for soundgarden needs to remember that the only reason Nirvana signed for sub pop in the firt place was because of Soundgarden being on the label. Also, Kim Thayil and Jonathon Poneman (?) were great pals, and Thayil had a bigger influence on the sub pop phenomenon than he gets credit for
  • smartass1235
    smartass1235 Posts: 136
    clairenordon wrote:
    Agreed with last two posts

    yes it is a matter of taste to an extent, but there's no denying talent.

    Whoever is dissing lyrics, check out Euphoria Morning please...Vedder is a better lyricist, but Cobain wasnt at all imo

    And the person saying that Nirvana paved the way for soundgarden needs to remember that the only reason Nirvana signed for sub pop in the firt place was because of Soundgarden being on the label. Also, Kim Thayil and Jonathon Poneman (?) were great pals, and Thayil had a bigger influence on the sub pop phenomenon than he gets credit for


    funny you say that. most people dont realize before here was a nirvana there was a soundgarden.

    threads liek these are really kind of silly. there is no wrong no right (pun intended). everyone is entitled to their opinions. mine which i have pobaly stated a thousand times since i was born, chris is the man. his range whether you lke it or not blows away eddie's and kurt's. ed is the most consistent but chris takes more risk with his high's. i give eddie the belt with ovrall lyrics, but chris has written several amazing songs also. prime example, which band did johnny cash cover? says something.
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  • Blyss
    Blyss Posts: 166
    I like him. But I am getting a little tired of the number of cornell/audioslave threads.
  • Duder5k
    Duder5k Posts: 278
    I see. So it must be "jump on the bandwagon" time. As if I don't see enough people bad mouthing Kurt and Eddie, now Chris joins the club.


    I don't think it's overrated...listen to Badmotorfinger man. Come on. I don't waste time saying one vocalist is better than another, but I think he deserves the praise.

    And it's not the 90's, I bet he'd be just as criticized if he looked like that again, with the long hair and Doc Martens.
  • A Surprise Left
    A Surprise Left Posts: 743
    Chris can be very good live and he can also be quite poor but back in the day he was brillant. He still posseses a great set of pipes as evidenced by his version of "You Know My Name" that was on one of the U.S talk shows recently. Say Hello 2 Heaven is a masterful piece of singing although Daltry's voice is still brillant all these years later, whereas Cornell's isn't quite as good. That happens when you sing in the manner Chris has throughout the years.
    The wind is blowing cold
    Have we lost our way tonight?
    Have we lost our hope to sorrow?

    Feels like were all alone
    Running further from what’s right
    And there are no more heroes to follow

    So what are we becoming?
    Where did we go wrong?
  • DOSW
    DOSW Posts: 2,014
    Also keep in mind that Chris Cornell was much more versatile than Robert Plant was. I'd love to see Plant try to attempt the grit of songs like Ty Cobb or No Attention.
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  • Marie Curie
    Marie Curie Posts: 1,250
    I [size=+2]Y[/size] Chris Cornell

    :D
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  • Jennytree
    Jennytree Posts: 5,340
    One one side... everyone should listen to Birth Ritual, especially when he sang it live on Singles... you listen to that then claim he can't sing!

    On the other side... Footsteps vs. Wooden Jesus (could be a different TOTD song, correct me if I'm wrong)... Chris wrote the riff and gave it to Ed to use... the two songs are completely different and Footsteps kicks the other songs ass anyday. I think that kinda shows that Chris' songwriting skills aren't on par with Eddies.

    In saying that... Audioslave put on two of the best shows I've ever been to, so I thank them for that!
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  • gossardstradlin
    gossardstradlin Posts: 324
    Jennytree wrote:
    One one side... everyone should listen to Birth Ritual, especially when he sang it live on Singles... you listen to that then claim he can't sing!

    On the other side... Footsteps vs. Wooden Jesus (could be a different TOTD song, correct me if I'm wrong)... Chris wrote the riff and gave it to Ed to use... the two songs are completely different and Footsteps kicks the other songs ass anyday. I think that kinda shows that Chris' songwriting skills aren't on par with Eddies.

    In saying that... Audioslave put on two of the best shows I've ever been to, so I thank them for that!

    No, I think Stone wrote those riffs and Chris wrote the lyrics to "Times of Trouble" which became "Footsteps" and "Wooden Jesus."

    But Birth Ritual is amazing and Chris is an amazing songwriter, especially with Soundgarden. :)
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  • Marie Curie
    Marie Curie Posts: 1,250
    Jennytree wrote:
    One one side... everyone should listen to Birth Ritual, especially when he sang it live on Singles... you listen to that then claim he can't sing!

    On the other side... Footsteps vs. Wooden Jesus (could be a different TOTD song, correct me if I'm wrong)... Chris wrote the riff and gave it to Ed to use... the two songs are completely different and Footsteps kicks the other songs ass anyday. I think that kinda shows that Chris' songwriting skills aren't on par with Eddies.

    In saying that... Audioslave put on two of the best shows I've ever been to, so I thank them for that!

    Times of Trouble, not Wooden Jesus.
    Altough I think Footsteps is a great song, Times of Trouble is better imo.
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  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    Marie Curie wrote:
    Times of Trouble, not Wooden Jesus.
    Altough I think Footsteps is a great song, Times of Trouble is better imo.

    I love both Times of trouble and Footsteps - they both did something different with it. Oh and wooden Jesus, man he hits some incredible notes in that song.
  • nowayimfaithfull
    nowayimfaithfull Posts: 2,051
    smartass1235 wrote:
    funny you say that. most people dont realize before here was a nirvana there was a soundgarden.

    threads liek these are really kind of silly. there is no wrong no right (pun intended). everyone is entitled to their opinions. mine which i have pobaly stated a thousand times since i was born, chris is the man. his range whether you lke it or not blows away eddie's and kurt's. ed is the most consistent but chris takes more risk with his high's. i give eddie the belt with ovrall lyrics, but chris has written several amazing songs also. prime example, which band did johnny cash cover? says something.


    hey the covers the songwriting which I overly stated is the best, his choice of words in not consistant, you have to realize this, I am just plain ole tired of his drama.
    It effects his touring and cr45eativuty.
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  • Pearl Jam and toast
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    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    I never thought those words would come out of my mouth. but all the Cornell worship on this website has turned me against him. some of you people think he is a frontman the caliber of Robert Plant, Steven Tyler, or Roger Daltry. Newsflash: he's not even close.
    He has a better voice than all 3 of those guys. I know it's treasonist to say anything bad about Plant or Daltrey, but it's true. Cornell can (or at least could) sing them both under the table. Writing is no contest for any of them as well.
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  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    DOSW wrote:
    I'd take Cornell in his prime over Plant in his prime any day. It's all just a matter of taste... or rather, it's probably more of a matter of which voice you got to know first. Most younger people like myself will probably take Cornell, and some of the older folks (not old, but older) will probably take Plant.

    Not me, I am only 21 and actually knew more SG before I knew so much Zepp. And I totally agree with the OP. I love some of Chris' stuff with Soundgarden, but damn, Plant can fuckin' sing.
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  • bovy_j
    bovy_j Posts: 1,008
    You're overrated.
  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,578
    Cornell shits all over those guys you listed...

    those guys are overrated!
  • nfanel
    nfanel Posts: 2,558
    IlovveePJ wrote:
    ... Sadly, he has become overrated... fake-n-bake skin and boy band hair...


    ... he has sold out. :(
    because he's good looking now he has sold out??
    his voice is sick...you can like him or not like him, but there's no denying his vocal talent.
  • melodyman22
    melodyman22 Posts: 326
    Cornell over rated not a chance. He is still one of the best ever. I love how people say his voice is shot now get real. He still sounds great on the new album.

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