This is a mighty long thread and I haven't read all of it - just wanted to say that I'm glad no-one's asked me to write a review of this. I absolutely wouldn't know what to say. Been a Radiohead fan since before OK Computer, enjoy all their albums in different ways, have seen them several times live...this album is the strangest thing they've done. I honestly don't know what to say about it: it's slippery, mutable, I can't catch hold of it. One moment I feel it's beautiful, moving, a work of genius even, other times I'm suddenly bored for no reason. I cannot get a handle on it. Anyone else feel the same?
Yes, I feel the same. That pretty much sums it up for me as well.
I see In Rainbows as a double album, really. So, far we only have the first half. According to the live versions of the second disc, In Rainbows could be their finest album to date. The first disc is excellent, but hopefully they will release it as a 2 disc/Deluxe package in stores, for those who don't opt for the discbox.
Judging this "album" at this point is premature. Many of the live disc two songs are very tuneful. Who knows what the studio versions will sound like, but most should at least resemble the live versions.
I would like to hear the full band on "Down is the New Up"
how do you know the tracks on the second disc are live? i see nothing to indicate that on the website. i just thought they were studio tracks that didn't make the album.
I think what is meant is that, the songs on disc two have been played live and the poster is judging the songs based on those live versions, not implying that they will be live cuts on the album.
For what it's worth I sort of see it like a dvd with the main feature on one disc and then the bonus material on the second. I think we'll see that any of the songs on disc two could have made the actual album but would likely have broken the incredible flow and feel that In Rainbows maintains. I think that's why the main album is 10 songs and the bonus disc 8.
Not the greatest Radiohead fan in the world but this album is excellent. 'All I Need' is my favourite.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
they played some shows (at least throughout california) in june 06
"Last time I think we played that song here was like, a long time ago, and there was a bonfire in the back and people were like throwing each other into it...very exciting days but a huge fucking relief that that's not how it is tonight..." Ed Irvine Night 1 2003, after Deep
I prefer vinyl over Cd but I really don't see the difference between this download and CD quality, when I hooked my PC to the stereo I was most impressed with the reproduction.
Never one for the computer age and I don't really like the idea of downloading personally but one of my best mates I hadn't seen for 2 years stayed over this weekend just gone and he introduced me to the possibilities of using, Windows Media Player and I've ripped most of my Wife's and my Cd collection to the PC and the possibilities seem endless.
Having your collection at your finger tips without having to bother with CD's is great.
I have to admit I might be doing a bit of a turnaround with my views on the whole PC based music area.
I still prefer Vinyl over CD but having the chance to access our whole collection practically makes the CD player redundant and the 5 disc changer seems an antique now.
Guess I was slow on the up take having had this ability had my fingertips for nearly 2 years.
The last full tour of the United States (proper venues, not clubs that hold less than 1k) was in the fall of 2003. It was in support of Hail to the Thief, and while I enjoyed the one show I attended immensely, it still paled to the 2001 tour for Kid/Amnesiac. Hearing those songs live for the first time was mind-blowing.
It's like Ok computer all over again. I find myself singing and humming the tunes all day long. Ok Computer was an addiction of 6 or more months straight of listening. Thom's voice is really amazing on this album. It's a beautiful album.
So far I'm inclined to call this Kid C. I really WANT to love it. It's good, but not earth-moving. To me it's a step back from Hail to the Theif. All this being said, it's still got some great songs. I'll rock it on the way home and see if I warm up to it any more.
It's extremely mellow, minimalistic, beautiful, and definitely something you don't rock out too... well the first two songs and the second to last you can rock out too, but other than that... it's amazing.
Of the songs we were expecting (everything bar Faust Arp and Reckoner), they were exactly like I thought they would be, really fantastic. Except for Nude, Jigsaw Falling Into Place (Open pick) and Videotape which I kinda didn't know what to think of initially.
Firstly the only thing with Nude was the layered vocal intro which has grown on me and suits the song very nicely. With Jigsaw Falling Into Place I thought it would open louder than it did and with an electric guitar, but the acoustic is perfect now that I've got used to it, the tone of the whole song works well now. And lastly Videotape disappointed me at first because I wanted to hear it end like last years live performances building up to a loud and somewhat heavy second half. After listening though the album version just fits with the other 9 tracks.
Here's looking forward to next years tour!
EDIT:
Now the Faust Arp and Reckoner are awesome. Faust Arp adds a nice bit of pace in the middle of the album and Reckoner is truly magnificent. Phil sounds brilliant on Reckoner!
i really dig radiohead but i think they are horrifically overrated.
their music is middle of the road with a fuck load of gimmicks to mislead
the underlying truth.
i feel it important to mention that i have (and enjoy) their entire discography,
but this uncontested universal acclaim is starting to get on my nerves.
Athens, Greece: 2006/09/30
"Call me Ishmael. Some years ago- never mind how long precisely- having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and see the watery part of the world." Herman Melville : Moby Dick
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
i really dig radiohead but i think they are horrifically overrated.
their music is middle of the road with a fuck load of gimmicks to mislead
the underlying truth.
i feel it important to mention that i have (and enjoy) their entire discography,
but this uncontested universal acclaim is starting to get on my nerves.
You know the way some people like Pearl Jam a lot (listen to all the songs etc.) but they don't love Pearl Jam?
You know the way some people like Pearl Jam a lot (listen to all the songs etc.) but they don't love Pearl Jam?
i'm not talking about "love". ~ btw i love radiohead (one of my favorite bands)
i'm talking about apples being described as water melons - it's wrong.
Athens, Greece: 2006/09/30
"Call me Ishmael. Some years ago- never mind how long precisely- having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and see the watery part of the world." Herman Melville : Moby Dick
i'm not talking about "love". ~ btw i love radiohead (one of my favorite bands)
i'm talking about apples being described as water melons - it's wrong.
I agree Glasshouse. They're not geniuses. Much of their catalogue is genius in the sense that it's perfectly crafted - strong melody, 'singable', great muscianship - but not all of it. I've found all of their albums inconsistent.
This new album, however, I've got no problem listening to all the way through, repeatedly.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
This new album, however, I've got no problem listening to all the way through, repeatedly.
Personally I find everything listenable on one go except possibly HTTT because it's long and sort of meandering at times. I wouldn't say In Rainbows is more listenable than the others particularily.
Personally I find everything listenable on one go except possibly HTTT because it's long and sort of meandering at times. I wouldn't say In Rainbows is more listenable than the others particularily.
I find every other album has songs which let it down. This album, to me, is most consistent.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
I find every other album has songs which let it down. This album, to me, is most consistent.
I see, I certainly agree that it's a very solid album. But I like pretty much every song on every album. Sometimes I just don't feel like listening to some of them but that could be any songs, even my favourites. I think that goes for most music.
I see, I certainly agree that it's a very solid album. But I like pretty much every song on every album. Sometimes I just don't feel like listening to some of them but that could be any songs, even my favourites. I think that goes for most music.
Indeed.
Funnily enough (and I'll probably get flamed for this) it's many of Radiohead's early, more rocky songs I didn't like as much as most of their newer stuff. I found Kid A to be amazing and pieces of Hail to the Thief (2+2=5!) to be amazing. I sometimes felt that their 'heavy' stuff sounded slightly forced and I don't know who the producers were, but the production didn't always lend itself to the heavier sound. Their drum sound, for example, always felt quite flat compared to, say, Pearl Jam. But that's true of much British indie music.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
Funnily enough (and I'll probably get flamed for this) it's many of Radiohead's early, more rocky songs I didn't like as much as most of their newer stuff. I found Kid A to be amazing and pieces of Hail to the Thief (2+2=5!) to be amazing. I sometimes felt that their 'heavy' stuff sounded slightly forced and I don't know who the producers were, but the production didn't always lend itself to the heavier sound. Their drum sound, for example, always felt quite flat compared to, say, Pearl Jam. But that's true of much British indie music.
Yeah, Phil's style is perfect for all the newer stuff! But having said that I can't imagine anyone else drumming on any radiohead song...
Yeah, Phil's style is perfect for all the newer stuff! But having said that I can't imagine anyone else drumming on any radiohead song...
Agreed.
Dave Abruzzesse would've been fairly wrong 'eh?
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
what i'm getting at : Radiohead's music is not conceptual genius. it's not a landmark in pop. it is great however (and i love it).
i don't think any of Radiohead's albums are more challenging than anything pearl jam have done (for example)
Athens, Greece: 2006/09/30
"Call me Ishmael. Some years ago- never mind how long precisely- having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and see the watery part of the world." Herman Melville : Moby Dick
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Yes, I feel the same. That pretty much sums it up for me as well.
Judging this "album" at this point is premature. Many of the live disc two songs are very tuneful. Who knows what the studio versions will sound like, but most should at least resemble the live versions.
I would like to hear the full band on "Down is the New Up"
I think what is meant is that, the songs on disc two have been played live and the poster is judging the songs based on those live versions, not implying that they will be live cuts on the album.
For what it's worth I sort of see it like a dvd with the main feature on one disc and then the bonus material on the second. I think we'll see that any of the songs on disc two could have made the actual album but would likely have broken the incredible flow and feel that In Rainbows maintains. I think that's why the main album is 10 songs and the bonus disc 8.
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I did the same thing, I gave out the number for information- 555-1212
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
i hope they tour in the US..
and not just a festival or something like that.
when's the last tour they had here?
Esther's here and she's sick?
hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
Never one for the computer age and I don't really like the idea of downloading personally but one of my best mates I hadn't seen for 2 years stayed over this weekend just gone and he introduced me to the possibilities of using, Windows Media Player and I've ripped most of my Wife's and my Cd collection to the PC and the possibilities seem endless.
Having your collection at your finger tips without having to bother with CD's is great.
I have to admit I might be doing a bit of a turnaround with my views on the whole PC based music area.
I still prefer Vinyl over CD but having the chance to access our whole collection practically makes the CD player redundant and the 5 disc changer seems an antique now.
Guess I was slow on the up take having had this ability had my fingertips for nearly 2 years.
Oh well you learn something new every day.
cheers!
i entered 0.00. it works.
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=o3gh2gSC6c0&mode=related&search=
Firstly the only thing with Nude was the layered vocal intro which has grown on me and suits the song very nicely. With Jigsaw Falling Into Place I thought it would open louder than it did and with an electric guitar, but the acoustic is perfect now that I've got used to it, the tone of the whole song works well now. And lastly Videotape disappointed me at first because I wanted to hear it end like last years live performances building up to a loud and somewhat heavy second half. After listening though the album version just fits with the other 9 tracks.
Here's looking forward to next years tour!
EDIT:
Now the Faust Arp and Reckoner are awesome. Faust Arp adds a nice bit of pace in the middle of the album and Reckoner is truly magnificent. Phil sounds brilliant on Reckoner!
their music is middle of the road with a fuck load of gimmicks to mislead
the underlying truth.
i feel it important to mention that i have (and enjoy) their entire discography,
but this uncontested universal acclaim is starting to get on my nerves.
"Call me Ishmael. Some years ago- never mind how long precisely- having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and see the watery part of the world." Herman Melville : Moby Dick
So did I. 00.00.
I have ordered a free download twice
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
i'm not talking about "love". ~ btw i love radiohead (one of my favorite bands)
i'm talking about apples being described as water melons - it's wrong.
"Call me Ishmael. Some years ago- never mind how long precisely- having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and see the watery part of the world." Herman Melville : Moby Dick
I agree Glasshouse. They're not geniuses. Much of their catalogue is genius in the sense that it's perfectly crafted - strong melody, 'singable', great muscianship - but not all of it. I've found all of their albums inconsistent.
This new album, however, I've got no problem listening to all the way through, repeatedly.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
Personally I find everything listenable on one go except possibly HTTT because it's long and sort of meandering at times. I wouldn't say In Rainbows is more listenable than the others particularily.
I find every other album has songs which let it down. This album, to me, is most consistent.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
Indeed.
Funnily enough (and I'll probably get flamed for this) it's many of Radiohead's early, more rocky songs I didn't like as much as most of their newer stuff. I found Kid A to be amazing and pieces of Hail to the Thief (2+2=5!) to be amazing. I sometimes felt that their 'heavy' stuff sounded slightly forced and I don't know who the producers were, but the production didn't always lend itself to the heavier sound. Their drum sound, for example, always felt quite flat compared to, say, Pearl Jam. But that's true of much British indie music.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
Agreed.
Dave Abruzzesse would've been fairly wrong 'eh?
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
what i'm getting at : Radiohead's music is not conceptual genius. it's not a landmark in pop. it is great however (and i love it).
i don't think any of Radiohead's albums are more challenging than anything pearl jam have done (for example)
"Call me Ishmael. Some years ago- never mind how long precisely- having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and see the watery part of the world." Herman Melville : Moby Dick