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  • rey
    rey Monmouth County, NJ Posts: 307
    I saw some mention of Springsteen in one of these Matt Cameron threads.........isn't he still playing almost 3 hour shows, and isn't Max Weinberg over 70 years old?  Unless MC has an actual injury or some sort of medical condition (which very well may be the case), it's hard for me to understand that PJ had to shorten their shows to accommodate him.  Matt is obviously very fit for his age (or any age) so it never really seemed to add up for me, but we'll never really know these details for sure. 
  • jh288035
    jh288035 Posts: 47
    I’ve heard or read a couple things re Matt. One, that the 3 hours shows were really too long for him, and two that he’s got repetitive issues, which I’m imagining to be carpal tunnel or alike. Could be total BS though, but makes sense. I just pray that they sign a new(or old) drummer and plan a winter tour
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,108
    How would you like to be 60+ with millions in the bank? Time to stop working perhaps? Go sit on a beach.
  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,055
    edited July 14
    Exactly, transition to working just enough to not be bored.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    jh288035 said:
    I’ve heard or read a couple things re Matt. One, that the 3 hours shows were really too long for him, and two that he’s got repetitive issues, which I’m imagining to be carpal tunnel or alike. Could be total BS though, but makes sense. I just pray that they sign a new(or old) drummer and plan a winter tour
    lol....winter tour?
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,875
    I heard a rumour his shoulders are an issue but probably bullshit. We won't know until he tells us.


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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,321
    rey said:
    I saw some mention of Springsteen in one of these Matt Cameron threads.........isn't he still playing almost 3 hour shows, and isn't Max Weinberg over 70 years old?  Unless MC has an actual injury or some sort of medical condition (which very well may be the case), it's hard for me to understand that PJ had to shorten their shows to accommodate him.  Matt is obviously very fit for his age (or any age) so it never really seemed to add up for me, but we'll never really know these details for sure. 
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  • WW Girl
    WW Girl York, SC Posts: 47
    Thank you Matt for 27 years of bad-ass drumming!  You more than deserve to carry on with all of your life’s passions and desires!  Hope to see you again someday at a reunion….until then enjoy your time!  :)
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  • Jimmydean55
    Jimmydean55 Posts: 1,553
    My guess is there will be nothing official (other than the 2 statements we already received) put out. This band is notoriously tight lipped about everything. Did we get any “official” answers on the other drummers? 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    My guess is there will be nothing official (other than the 2 statements we already received) put out. This band is notoriously tight lipped about everything. Did we get any “official” answers on the other drummers? 
    Nope and we've all survived knowing the bare minimum 
    DK - substance abuse issues
    MCh - Didn't want to be a touring musician
    DA - personality conflicts
    JI - mental illness prevention 
    MCa - old fart syndrome
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  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,245
    Thank you for everything Matt, drummer of Soundgarden, Temple of the Dog, Pearl Jam, and of course, KISS. It's been an honor to listen to all your music and see you live 20 times.

    I'll echo others that Pearl Jam may not have always been the best palate for Matt's art, but I believe that Dark Matter was the Pearl Jam/Matt Cameron masterpiece. And oh what an honor to see every song from the album played in the 7 DM Tour shows that I saw! If you're gonna go out, you might as well go out on top. And MFC sure as fuck all went out on top!

    As for Pearl Jam, we have to have some expectations that this band is going to change as the gents get older. I don't know who will become the new drummer (there is no "replacing" Matt Cameron folks). Maybe it will take 2 people to do it. I would expect someone younger to come in and perform these incredible hours long athletic feats.


    The best way to see every song from a particular album, is of course, the year or two after it gets released.

    Unless you're just extremely lucky and hit up two particular shows in 2014 and three more particular shows in 2016. That's five shows for approximately half their catalog at the time.
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  • CantKeepmedown
    CantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 3,119
    Matt said in an interview that he would reach the point of physical exhaustion, look down and see that there were like 7-8 songs left in the set. I'm sure he said something about not wanting to play that long. Doing that 2-4 times per week has to take it's toll. Granted, this was back 10-15 years ago so they were all younger. But still. 

    Stone has said in a recent interview that nobody wants 3 hour shows. I assume he must've been talking about band members, because I'm sure fans would still be all for it. Except my wife. She would routinely ask "how many more songs?" during some of those marathon shows back in the day. 

    2:20-2:30 is not bad at all. Could probably squeeze another 2-3 songs in without all the chatter. But I know Ed needs to catch his breath every now and then lol
  • mr bungle
    mr bungle Posts: 1,423
    I think Eddie still likes a marathon show.  But who doesn't want to keep the party going when the second bottle of vino gets corked!
  • JK109224
    JK109224 Posts: 644
    edited July 15
    The 23-25 song shows are better anyway. Ed's voice holds up and they're tighter. Some of those 35+ song shows are "epic" but not great quality IMO. The bootlegs are borderline unlistenable.
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  • JG242853
    JG242853 Posts: 233
    JK109224 said:
    The 23-25 song shows are better anyway. Ed's voice holds up and they're tighter. Some of those 35+ song shows are "epic" but not great quality IMO. The bootlegs are borderline unlistenable.
    Agree
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  • CC9172
    CC9172 northern new jersey Posts: 128
    No one can replace Matt. His power, speed and knowledge are impeccable. It will be a different pearl jam sound with a new drummer just like when Jack Irons played with PJ. When Matt joined, PJ was able to do 30-35 songs a night because of his power and speed. That's 27 years of knowledge gone. 
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,108
    JK109224 said:
    The 23-25 song shows are better anyway. Ed's voice holds up and they're tighter. Some of those 35+ song shows are "epic" but not great quality IMO. The bootlegs are borderline unlistenable.

    That is just not true. There are a few sloppy ones (Penn State), but overall they were great. They kept playing. Longer than most of us could stand for.
  • bootleg
    bootleg Posts: 1,207
    Get_Right said:
    How would you like to be 60+ with millions in the bank? Time to stop working perhaps? Go sit on a beach.

    Maybe with every other job other than “Drummer for Pearl Jam”. That job offers enough down time where I could still try out all the beaches.
  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,055
    bootleg said:
    Get_Right said:
    How would you like to be 60+ with millions in the bank? Time to stop working perhaps? Go sit on a beach.

    Maybe with every other job other than “Drummer for Pearl Jam”. That job offers enough down time where I could still try out all the beaches.
    Whole lot of assumptions there
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  • CantKeepmedown
    CantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 3,119
    Get_Right said:
    JK109224 said:
    The 23-25 song shows are better anyway. Ed's voice holds up and they're tighter. Some of those 35+ song shows are "epic" but not great quality IMO. The bootlegs are borderline unlistenable.

    That is just not true. There are a few sloppy ones (Penn State), but overall they were great. They kept playing. Longer than most of us could stand for.
    Agreed. The percentage of "borderline unlistenable" shows is miniscule.  I've read a few times how sloppy those longer shows were and I'm just not seeing/hearing it.