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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,751
    DE4173 said:
    I neither thought packing the court was scandalous, nor did I think McConnell's actions were cool.

    But that post seems like an example of what I'm talking about.

    It's okay that we do abc because they did xyz.

    I can't imagine any Democrat that wanted to pack the Supreme Court during the past four years would be okay if Trump did it. I know I wouldn't.
    he already did it...courtesy of McConnell
    That doesn't matter what with this being the post truth era. 

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  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,792
    Ok,  I hear you.  I used the word "pack" in error. Was it "expand the court" and then appointing liberal judges in that expansion that people were calling for the last four years? 

    I can't imagine any Democrat that wanted to expand the Supreme Court and appoint liberal judges during the past four years would be okay if Trump, in the next four years, expanded the Supreme Court and appointed conservative judges. I know I wouldn't.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I'm curious as to why, if they, DOGE, really want to save money, loyok at what we spend the most on?  Military.
    They ae looking to shut down bases which makes zero sense to me.  Those are strategic places of interest.  Unless u want to nuke everyone we need those bases.

    you should read the constitution   it says the Congress is in charge of budgetary matters. executive gets involved when its time to sign a bill or veto a bill.


    this is government 101


    I get that but it doesn't matter that an independent source is looking into it.  There isn't anything in the constitution that would prevent DOGE from looking into where money is mishandled.  That was the whole point in the first place.

    except that independent source has major conflicts of interests here. has no clearance to access these systems, is illegally downloading said systems and is apparently using AI to write into these systems unvetted code. 

    further would seem to be very cozy with enemies of the united states.

    and you're seemingly ok with this.
    DOGE is accessing things the government already has, our information.  I'm not losing my mind over something thats in the governments possession already.

    The things he wasn't allowed to get into the courts blocked him from doing so. That is working still thankfully.

    At this point I can jump up and down about whats going on all i want and it is going to do absolutely nothing.  I can't change any of this.  All i can do is hope that the courts keep doing their jobs and lawmakers on the hill have some sort of a spine and do something.

    What i did find interesting is that Bannon hates Musk.  That was a shocker for me.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,298
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I'm curious as to why, if they, DOGE, really want to save money, loyok at what we spend the most on?  Military.
    They ae looking to shut down bases which makes zero sense to me.  Those are strategic places of interest.  Unless u want to nuke everyone we need those bases.

    you should read the constitution   it says the Congress is in charge of budgetary matters. executive gets involved when its time to sign a bill or veto a bill.


    this is government 101


    I get that but it doesn't matter that an independent source is looking into it.  There isn't anything in the constitution that would prevent DOGE from looking into where money is mishandled.  That was the whole point in the first place.

    except that independent source has major conflicts of interests here. has no clearance to access these systems, is illegally downloading said systems and is apparently using AI to write into these systems unvetted code. 

    further would seem to be very cozy with enemies of the united states.

    and you're seemingly ok with this.
    DOGE is accessing things the government already has, our information.  I'm not losing my mind over something thats in the governments possession already.

    The things he wasn't allowed to get into the courts blocked him from doing so. That is working still thankfully.

    At this point I can jump up and down about whats going on all i want and it is going to do absolutely nothing.  I can't change any of this.  All i can do is hope that the courts keep doing their jobs and lawmakers on the hill have some sort of a spine and do something.

    What i did find interesting is that Bannon hates Musk.  That was a shocker for me.
    and again its going onto the hands of unvetted people who are hackers by trade. to be used for who knows what.

    and the courts got involved after week 2. they had been through several agencies at that point.

    and I personally am more concerned about changes to computer code than anything else.

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  • mickeyrat
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,298
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I'm curious as to why, if they, DOGE, really want to save money, loyok at what we spend the most on?  Military.
    They ae looking to shut down bases which makes zero sense to me.  Those are strategic places of interest.  Unless u want to nuke everyone we need those bases.

    you should read the constitution   it says the Congress is in charge of budgetary matters. executive gets involved when its time to sign a bill or veto a bill.


    this is government 101


    I get that but it doesn't matter that an independent source is looking into it.  There isn't anything in the constitution that would prevent DOGE from looking into where money is mishandled.  That was the whole point in the first place.

    except that independent source has major conflicts of interests here. has no clearance to access these systems, is illegally downloading said systems and is apparently using AI to write into these systems unvetted code. 

    further would seem to be very cozy with enemies of the united states.

    and you're seemingly ok with this.
    DOGE is accessing things the government already has, our information.  I'm not losing my mind over something thats in the governments possession already.

    The things he wasn't allowed to get into the courts blocked him from doing so. That is working still thankfully.

    At this point I can jump up and down about whats going on all i want and it is going to do absolutely nothing.  I can't change any of this.  All i can do is hope that the courts keep doing their jobs and lawmakers on the hill have some sort of a spine and do something.

    What i did find interesting is that Bannon hates Musk.  That was a shocker for me.



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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,298
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,298
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,298
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,298
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,298
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    mickeyrat said:
    Musk and Co keep throwing around how everything they are discovering is "fraud"....no fucking way has there been enough time to discover if fraudulent activity is occurring.

    I get seeing payments and questioning what they might relate to but to just say there is "billions of dollars in fraud" is just false. I can't believe they aren't being pressed harder on this.

    I give Musk a little credit for not doubling down on the "millions for Hamas condoms" bs but for him to just say it was a mistake and not reflect on how stupid it was is disturbing. 
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,298
    Musk's DOGE cuts based more on political ideology than real cost savings so far - https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-cuts-based-more-political-ideology-than-real-cost-savings-so-far-2025-02-12/
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    mickeyrat said:
    Musk's DOGE cuts based more on political ideology than real cost savings so far - https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-cuts-based-more-political-ideology-than-real-cost-savings-so-far-2025-02-12/
    I would agree with this even before so.  They see the spending like a company and can fix things.  It's not going to work but the people that voted for it are actually seeing something done.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    mickeyrat said:
    Musk's DOGE cuts based more on political ideology than real cost savings so far - https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-cuts-based-more-political-ideology-than-real-cost-savings-so-far-2025-02-12/
    I would agree with this even before so.  They see the spending like a company and can fix things.  It's not going to work but the people that voted for it are actually seeing something done.
    They might think they are seeing something but they aren't...I'll give them props once they start talking about "billions of fraud" at the DoD.

    What they are looking at now is like less than 1% of the budget
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  • mickeyrat
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  • mickeyrat
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,496
    much better than looking into whats bothering some silly cancer patients.