Department of Govt Efficiency (DOGE)

mickeyrat · February 12

https://www.threads.net/@hot.politics.today/post/DF9QqnRhCDN?xmt=AQGzf5wxTzEBMY-eb4KD9l3uzjIsu49ZufvQ0TDNJegQjA

Gern Blansten · February 12

mickeyrat said:

https://www.threads.net/@hot.politics.today/post/DF9QqnRhCDN?xmt=AQGzf5wxTzEBMY-eb4KD9l3uzjIsu49ZufvQ0TDNJegQjA

Musk and Co keep throwing around how everything they are discovering is "fraud"....no fucking way has there been enough time to discover if fraudulent activity is occurring.

I get seeing payments and questioning what they might relate to but to just say there is "billions of dollars in fraud" is just false. I can't believe they aren't being pressed harder on this.

I give Musk a little credit for not doubling down on the "millions for Hamas condoms" bs but for him to just say it was a mistake and not reflect on how stupid it was is disturbing.

tempo_n_groove · February 12

mickeyrat said:

prove they didnt....

https://www.threads.net/@lavishtantrums/post/DF8_4_osmnX?xmt=AQGzhrqpIt3SSeH0e2YNCem5gNyjt0uSHWLg2JDyDlbrqQ

Just a little bit erroneous..

mickeyrat · February 12

Musk's DOGE cuts based more on political ideology than real cost savings so far - https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-cuts-based-more-political-ideology-than-real-cost-savings-so-far-2025-02-12/

tempo_n_groove · February 12

mickeyrat said:

Musk's DOGE cuts based more on political ideology than real cost savings so far - https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-cuts-based-more-political-ideology-than-real-cost-savings-so-far-2025-02-12/

I would agree with this even before so. They see the spending like a company and can fix things. It's not going to work but the people that voted for it are actually seeing something done.

Gern Blansten · February 12

tempo_n_groove said:

mickeyrat said:

Musk's DOGE cuts based more on political ideology than real cost savings so far - https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-cuts-based-more-political-ideology-than-real-cost-savings-so-far-2025-02-12/

I would agree with this even before so. They see the spending like a company and can fix things. It's not going to work but the people that voted for it are actually seeing something done.

They might think they are seeing something but they aren't...I'll give them props once they start talking about "billions of fraud" at the DoD.

What they are looking at now is like less than 1% of the budget

cutz · February 12

Edward Luce

https://youtube.com/shorts/j47fk7pCvyI?si=pduhbbE7HsUBVugE

mickeyrat · February 12

smell another lawsuit brewing..

https://www.threads.net/@yasharali/post/DF_JO4isR9l?xmt=AQGzb1hgq2xZL5a0o2Hq88hhDt7518btKvqFLxURJPDCtA

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5021252/uploads/editor/h9/vf2wa1civ9gw.jpg

mickeyrat · February 12

https://www.threads.net/@thetnholler/post/DF_LK5lPOja?xmt=AQGzE74mQpkuARVYAF5pBHLQrdyZVvZkUzUFSxGbL1Z8Ew

Tim Simmons · February 12

much better than looking into whats bothering some silly cancer patients.

Gern Blansten · February 12

mickeyrat said:

https://www.threads.net/@thetnholler/post/DF_LK5lPOja?xmt=AQGzE74mQpkuARVYAF5pBHLQrdyZVvZkUzUFSxGbL1Z8Ew

well well well....

Halifax2TheMax · February 12

Hey! But what about Hunter’s laptop and the 10% to the Big Guy?????

mickeyrat · February 12

https://www.threads.net/@wired/post/DF_LtAZBw3_?xmt=AQGzybdgd_LXVJ8sqk62d_9dAOboj0B6HHn8M5tlw6uyAQ

tbergs · February 12

I mean, yeah, all of this sucks, but guess what, most people don't give a shit, especially the 70 million + who voted for Tusk. They're ecstatic at all of it and you've seen the responses even here. We're going to bow to Russia, dismantle funding to research and consumer protections and watch as morally bankrupt Republicans, and supposed Democrats (Mayor Adams), enrich themselves with loosened foreign bribery guidelines and a truly weaponized DOJ against enforcing federal corruption. It's amazing to see so many willing to go all in for the almighty dollar.

Halifax2TheMax · February 13

tbergs said:

I mean, yeah, all of this sucks, but guess what, most people don't give a shit, especially the 70 million + who voted for Tusk. They're ecstatic at all of it and you've seen the responses even here. We're going to bow to Russia, dismantle funding to research and consumer protections and watch as morally bankrupt Republicans, and supposed Democrats (Mayor Adams), enrich themselves with loosened foreign bribery guidelines and a truly weaponized DOJ against enforcing federal corruption. It's amazing to see so many willing to go all in for the almighty dollar.

I don’t know about you but it reminds me of the Golden Calf.

tbergs · February 13

Halifax2TheMax said:

tbergs said:

I mean, yeah, all of this sucks, but guess what, most people don't give a shit, especially the 70 million + who voted for Tusk. They're ecstatic at all of it and you've seen the responses even here. We're going to bow to Russia, dismantle funding to research and consumer protections and watch as morally bankrupt Republicans, and supposed Democrats (Mayor Adams), enrich themselves with loosened foreign bribery guidelines and a truly weaponized DOJ against enforcing federal corruption. It's amazing to see so many willing to go all in for the almighty dollar.

I don’t know about you but it reminds me of the Golden Calf.

Apparently, even after thousands of years, humans still become really stupid around golden calves, whether an actual idol shaped like a calf or an old golden tinged calf left to pasture in the sun too long.

Halifax2TheMax · February 13

Who in this world can trust the nited States at this point? From its citizenry, to its elected representatives and on to its “leadership?” If I’m an EU, Asian or North American, or CentralSouth American government, I’m looking elsewhere for solutions, whether inward and/or new alliances. The S is no longer the world’s indispensable leader or protector of democracy and democratic principles.

OnWis97 · February 13

tbergs said:

I mean, yeah, all of this sucks, but guess what, most people don't give a shit, especially the 70 million + who voted for Tusk. They're ecstatic at all of it and you've seen the responses even here. We're going to bow to Russia, dismantle funding to research and consumer protections and watch as morally bankrupt Republicans, and supposed Democrats (Mayor Adams), enrich themselves with loosened foreign bribery guidelines and a truly weaponized DOJ against enforcing federal corruption. It's amazing to see so many willing to go all in for the almighty dollar.

This is pretty much true. The only way a critical mass of MAGA people ever recognize what’s going on is if it gets so bad that there’s no going back.

Gern Blansten · February 13

OnWis97 said:

tbergs said:

I mean, yeah, all of this sucks, but guess what, most people don't give a shit, especially the 70 million + who voted for Tusk. They're ecstatic at all of it and you've seen the responses even here. We're going to bow to Russia, dismantle funding to research and consumer protections and watch as morally bankrupt Republicans, and supposed Democrats (Mayor Adams), enrich themselves with loosened foreign bribery guidelines and a truly weaponized DOJ against enforcing federal corruption. It's amazing to see so many willing to go all in for the almighty dollar.

This is pretty much true. The only way a critical mass of MAGA people ever recognize what’s going on is if it gets so bad that there’s no going back.

But even then trump will just blame someone else (Dems) and they will believe it.

mace1229 · February 13

tempo_n_groove said:

I had a talk w a coworker about this today. If indeed there are made up jobs or someone getting paid to do nothing like the mob did then I am all for cutting bait with those jobs.

What I do have a problem with is it is a direct assault on the middle class. The govt does keep people employed and there is waste. As long as it doesn't send the economy and people into homelessness I'm ok with it though.

Something I did bring up is if these jobs are removed and there aren't any new places they can fill with them then they will be using the system to help them sustain their bills. If they decide to cut that out then the US economy will surely go to shit.

There are always reactions to what happens and the markets will follow suit.

Something that puts my job in direct crosshairs is DEI. We are a WBE and get contracts based on that. We might have to shut doors if all this comes to fruition.

I know a lot of government/city workers who admit they work about actual 10-20 hours a week. The rest of it is wasted time. They can do the job of 2-3 people, but it's just over staffed.
About 15 years ago I had a room mate who worked for the sanitation dept. They got a 6 month intern working for the mayor of LA and took a leave from their regular job. When I asked how they get someone to fill in for her 6 months, she said no one would need to. If you can leave your job for 6 months and no one needs to fill in, then your job probably isn't needed. I've always assumed there's a lot of that in government work.

Gern Blansten · February 13

A lot of people say that about teachers too....probably not real accurate.

mace1229 · February 13

Gern Blansten said:

A lot of people say that about teachers too....probably not real accurate.

I didn't say people say that about government workers. I said I've known government workers who say that about themselves. There's a big difference.

Merkin Baller · February 13

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

I had a talk w a coworker about this today. If indeed there are made up jobs or someone getting paid to do nothing like the mob did then I am all for cutting bait with those jobs.

What I do have a problem with is it is a direct assault on the middle class. The govt does keep people employed and there is waste. As long as it doesn't send the economy and people into homelessness I'm ok with it though.

Something I did bring up is if these jobs are removed and there aren't any new places they can fill with them then they will be using the system to help them sustain their bills. If they decide to cut that out then the US economy will surely go to shit.

There are always reactions to what happens and the markets will follow suit.

Something that puts my job in direct crosshairs is DEI. We are a WBE and get contracts based on that. We might have to shut doors if all this comes to fruition.

I know a lot of government/city workers who admit they work about actual 10-20 hours a week.

You know a lot of government and city workers who admit they work as little as 10 hours a week?

Halifax2TheMax · February 13

Gern Blansten said:

A lot of people say that about teachers too....probably not real accurate.

Yea, teachers have it so easy. Every summer off. Two weeks at Christmas. Plus all the other holidays. A week in February and April and thanksgiving is just about a week, plus those half days and “development” days. And a six hour day. Always complaining about benefits and class sizes. If college profs can teach classes of 150, why not teachers? Teach all kids science, math and history in the cafeteria and bam, you can reduce public teachers by a third, at least. Maybe more. Constant complaining about language barriers and too many kids from other places attending school, what do they care if the kid passes or graduates? It’s not like they have to house or feed them after they pass through, right?

mace1229 · February 13

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

I had a talk w a coworker about this today. If indeed there are made up jobs or someone getting paid to do nothing like the mob did then I am all for cutting bait with those jobs.

What I do have a problem with is it is a direct assault on the middle class. The govt does keep people employed and there is waste. As long as it doesn't send the economy and people into homelessness I'm ok with it though.

Something I did bring up is if these jobs are removed and there aren't any new places they can fill with them then they will be using the system to help them sustain their bills. If they decide to cut that out then the US economy will surely go to shit.

There are always reactions to what happens and the markets will follow suit.

Something that puts my job in direct crosshairs is DEI. We are a WBE and get contracts based on that. We might have to shut doors if all this comes to fruition.

I know a lot of government/city workers who admit they work about actual 10-20 hours a week.
You know a lot of government and city workers who admit they work as little as 10 hours a week?

I did about 15 years ago when I lived in LA. My roommate worked for the city and I met a lot of her work friends at the time.
And yes, many of them would talk about how they don't even show up every other Friday and nobody cared.
So my experience was limited to LA city workers in that respect, But I knew or met quite a few over the several years I was there. I don;t remember any of them complaining about being over worked at the time. Maybe it's different in other cities.

benjs · February 13

Halifax2TheMax said:

Gern Blansten said:

A lot of people say that about teachers too....probably not real accurate.

Yea, teachers have it so easy. Every summer off. Two weeks at Christmas. Plus all the other holidays. A week in February and April and thanksgiving is just about a week, plus those half days and “development” days. And a six hour day. Always complaining about benefits and class sizes. If college profs can teach classes of 150, why not teachers? Teach all kids science, math and history in the cafeteria and bam, you can reduce public teachers by a third, at least. Maybe more. Constant complaining about language barriers and too many kids from other places attending school, what do they care if the kid passes or graduates? It’s not like they have to house or feed them after they pass through, right?

I really hope this is sarcastic. Takes a special kind of person to educate children, especially these days. I have deep admiration for them. They get paid next to nothing here in Canada.

mace1229 · February 13

Halifax2TheMax said:

Gern Blansten said:

A lot of people say that about teachers too....probably not real accurate.

Yea, teachers have it so easy. Every summer off. Two weeks at Christmas. Plus all the other holidays. A week in February and April and thanksgiving is just about a week, plus those half days and “development” days. And a six hour day. Always complaining about benefits and class sizes. If college profs can teach classes of 150, why not teachers? Teach all kids science, math and history in the cafeteria and bam, you can reduce public teachers by a third, at least. Maybe more. Constant complaining about language barriers and too many kids from other places attending school, what do they care if the kid passes or graduates? It’s not like they have to house or feed them after they pass through, right?

We don't get veteran's or president's day off anymore. It's a shame.

Merkin Baller · February 13

mace1229 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

I had a talk w a coworker about this today. If indeed there are made up jobs or someone getting paid to do nothing like the mob did then I am all for cutting bait with those jobs.

What I do have a problem with is it is a direct assault on the middle class. The govt does keep people employed and there is waste. As long as it doesn't send the economy and people into homelessness I'm ok with it though.

Something I did bring up is if these jobs are removed and there aren't any new places they can fill with them then they will be using the system to help them sustain their bills. If they decide to cut that out then the US economy will surely go to shit.

There are always reactions to what happens and the markets will follow suit.

Something that puts my job in direct crosshairs is DEI. We are a WBE and get contracts based on that. We might have to shut doors if all this comes to fruition.

I know a lot of government/city workers who admit they work about actual 10-20 hours a week.
You know a lot of government and city workers who admit they work as little as 10 hours a week?

I did about 15 years ago when I lived in LA. My roommate worked for the city and I met a lot of her work friends at the time.
And yes, many of them would talk about how they don't even show up every other Friday and nobody cared.
So my experience was limited to LA city workers in that respect, But I knew or met quite a few over the several years I was there. I don;t remember any of them complaining about being over worked at the time. Maybe it's different in other cities.

Maybe.

mace1229 · February 13

benjs said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Gern Blansten said:

A lot of people say that about teachers too....probably not real accurate.

Yea, teachers have it so easy. Every summer off. Two weeks at Christmas. Plus all the other holidays. A week in February and April and thanksgiving is just about a week, plus those half days and “development” days. And a six hour day. Always complaining about benefits and class sizes. If college profs can teach classes of 150, why not teachers? Teach all kids science, math and history in the cafeteria and bam, you can reduce public teachers by a third, at least. Maybe more. Constant complaining about language barriers and too many kids from other places attending school, what do they care if the kid passes or graduates? It’s not like they have to house or feed them after they pass through, right?

I really hope this is sarcastic. Takes a special kind of person to educate children, especially these days. I have deep admiration for them. They get paid next to nothing here in Canada.

He is, just poking fun at me for criticizing government workers. Don't take it literal.

Gern Blansten · February 13

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

A lot of people say that about teachers too....probably not real accurate.

I didn't say people say that about government workers. I said I've known government workers who say that about themselves. There's a big difference.

I don't doubt that there is some of that. A city has to staff for worst case scenario. If they determine X number of jobs are too be filled then that's what they budget for.

Sometimes my staff only work 20 real hrs a week but it doesn't make sense for me to lay them off and lose them.

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