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benjs said:Halifax2TheMax said:Gern Blansten said:A lot of people say that about teachers too....probably not real accurate.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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And don’t get me going on “snow days.” Sign or prediction of one little flake, bam! Schools are closed. And busses? When I was a kid everyone walked to school so why not teachers? Kids and teachers can’t walk in snow? Lazy. Imagine the savings if we got rid of free rides?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Merkin Baller said:mace1229 said:tempo_n_groove said:I had a talk w a coworker about this today. If indeed there are made up jobs or someone getting paid to do nothing like the mob did then I am all for cutting bait with those jobs.
What I do have a problem with is it is a direct assault on the middle class. The govt does keep people employed and there is waste. As long as it doesn't send the economy and people into homelessness I'm ok with it though.
Something I did bring up is if these jobs are removed and there aren't any new places they can fill with them then they will be using the system to help them sustain their bills. If they decide to cut that out then the US economy will surely go to shit.
There are always reactions to what happens and the markets will follow suit.
Something that puts my job in direct crosshairs is DEI. We are a WBE and get contracts based on that. We might have to shut doors if all this comes to fruition.
Sometimes it's just necessary if you want to be fully staffed for full production or worse case scenario. A city is no different....if shit hits the fan in a maintenance emergency then you need the people there to do the job....no time to do a job search. Better to have some down time then an inefficient revolving door.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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Halifax2TheMax said:And don’t get me going on “snow days.” Sign or prediction of one little flake, bam! Schools are closed. And busses? When I was a kid everyone walked to school so why not teachers? Kids and teachers can’t walk in snow? Lazy. Imagine the savings if we got rid of free rides?
We're required to have school 180 days, so they have 188 school days so that we can have 8 snow days in the year We get maybe 2 or 3, so we've worked 5 extra days. It's basically slave labor.Post edited by mace1229 on0 -
mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:And don’t get me going on “snow days.” Sign or prediction of one little flake, bam! Schools are closed. And busses? When I was a kid everyone walked to school so why not teachers? Kids and teachers can’t walk in snow? Lazy. Imagine the savings if we got rid of free rides?
We're required to have school 180 days, so they have 188 school days so that we can have 8 snow days in the year We get maybe 2 or 3, so we've worked 5 extra days. It's basically slave labor.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:And don’t get me going on “snow days.” Sign or prediction of one little flake, bam! Schools are closed. And busses? When I was a kid everyone walked to school so why not teachers? Kids and teachers can’t walk in snow? Lazy. Imagine the savings if we got rid of free rides?
We're required to have school 180 days, so they have 188 school days so that we can have 8 snow days in the year We get maybe 2 or 3, so we've worked 5 extra days. It's basically slave labor.
And it's more like 195 days with all the inservice days.0 -
Even if these anecdotes are representative of the truth (mine as a government worker is that I shoot for 40 and average about 45) that's not the point of any of this; it's the PR. The real point is to consolidate money. "I know a guy who works 20 hours a week for the City of North Haverbrook" turns into Elon "The Walking Conflict of Interest" Musk unilaterally removing he Consumer Protection Bureau because it protects people like us from people like him. Congratulations at firing all those people, some of whom probably don't work as hard as you'd like them too an none of whom work the 80-hour-no-bathroom-break weeks Elon demands. But the real purpose of cutting this agency, which is a drop in the federal bucket is to make it easier for banks and robber barons to fuck the rest of us over.
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OnWis97 said:Even if these anecdotes are representative of the truth (mine as a government worker is that I shoot for 40 and average about 45) that's not the point of any of this; it's the PR. The real point is to consolidate money. "I know a guy who works 20 hours a week for the City of North Haverbrook" turns into Elon "The Walking Conflict of Interest" Musk unilaterally removing he Consumer Protection Bureau because it protects people like us from people like him. Congratulations at firing all those people, some of whom probably don't work as hard as you'd like them too an none of whom work the 80-hour-no-bathroom-break weeks Elon demands. But the real purpose of cutting this agency, which is a drop in the federal bucket is to make it easier for banks and robber barons to fuck the rest of us over.0
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OnWis97 said:Even if these anecdotes are representative of the truth (mine as a government worker is that I shoot for 40 and average about 45) that's not the point of any of this; it's the PR. The real point is to consolidate money. "I know a guy who works 20 hours a week for the City of North Haverbrook" turns into Elon "The Walking Conflict of Interest" Musk unilaterally removing he Consumer Protection Bureau because it protects people like us from people like him. Congratulations at firing all those people, some of whom probably don't work as hard as you'd like them too an none of whom work the 80-hour-no-bathroom-break weeks Elon demands. But the real purpose of cutting this agency, which is a drop in the federal bucket is to make it easier for banks and robber barons to fuck the rest of us over.
Everyone wants to see their tax dollars better allocated, I don't think there's anyone who can't get behind that, but I'm hard pressed to think that's what Elon & trump are trying to do here.
Why anyone would give them the benefit of the doubt defies logic.0 -
Merkin Baller said:Why anyone would give them the benefit of the doubt defies logic.0
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Gern Blansten said:tempo_n_groove said:mickeyrat said:Musk's DOGE cuts based more on political ideology than real cost savings so far - https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-cuts-based-more-political-ideology-than-real-cost-savings-so-far-2025-02-12/
What they are looking at now is like less than 1% of the budget
I don't think you will find billions of fraud. Maybe look into military spending and see where the trillion dollar contracts come into play?0 -
Halifax2TheMax said:And don’t get me going on “snow days.” Sign or prediction of one little flake, bam! Schools are closed. And busses? When I was a kid everyone walked to school so why not teachers? Kids and teachers can’t walk in snow? Lazy. Imagine the savings if we got rid of free rides?
The school system says it has "remote Learning" for actual snow days but the schools never call for them anyways.0 -
mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:And don’t get me going on “snow days.” Sign or prediction of one little flake, bam! Schools are closed. And busses? When I was a kid everyone walked to school so why not teachers? Kids and teachers can’t walk in snow? Lazy. Imagine the savings if we got rid of free rides?
We're required to have school 180 days, so they have 188 school days so that we can have 8 snow days in the year We get maybe 2 or 3, so we've worked 5 extra days. It's basically slave labor.
And it's more like 195 days with all the inservice days.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:And don’t get me going on “snow days.” Sign or prediction of one little flake, bam! Schools are closed. And busses? When I was a kid everyone walked to school so why not teachers? Kids and teachers can’t walk in snow? Lazy. Imagine the savings if we got rid of free rides?
We're required to have school 180 days, so they have 188 school days so that we can have 8 snow days in the year We get maybe 2 or 3, so we've worked 5 extra days. It's basically slave labor.
And it's more like 195 days with all the inservice days.
Even in states where it is difficult to fire a teacher, there are still ways to get ride of ineffective ones. I've seen it happen several times, they change up the schedule of a teacher to a nightmare scenario. Some teacher who has taught honors pre-calculus for the last 15 years is suddenly told they will be teaching 4 different levels of remedial math and one class of elective psychology or something random they've never taught before (some states allow teachers to teach 1 class outside of their certification to fill the needs of the school). The teacher will then decide they're close enough to retirement and retire, or apply somewhere else.Post edited by mace1229 on0 -
mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:And don’t get me going on “snow days.” Sign or prediction of one little flake, bam! Schools are closed. And busses? When I was a kid everyone walked to school so why not teachers? Kids and teachers can’t walk in snow? Lazy. Imagine the savings if we got rid of free rides?
We're required to have school 180 days, so they have 188 school days so that we can have 8 snow days in the year We get maybe 2 or 3, so we've worked 5 extra days. It's basically slave labor.
And it's more like 195 days with all the inservice days.
Even in states where it is difficult to fire a teacher, there are still ways to get ride of ineffective ones. I've seen it happen several times, they change up the schedule of a teacher to a nightmare scenario. Some teacher who has taught honors pre-calculus for the last 15 years is suddenly told they will be teaching 4 different levels of remedial math and one class of elective psychology or something random they've never taught before (some states allow teachers to teach 1 class outside of their certification to fill the needs of the school). The teacher will then decide they're close enough to retirement and retire, or apply somewhere else.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:And don’t get me going on “snow days.” Sign or prediction of one little flake, bam! Schools are closed. And busses? When I was a kid everyone walked to school so why not teachers? Kids and teachers can’t walk in snow? Lazy. Imagine the savings if we got rid of free rides?
We're required to have school 180 days, so they have 188 school days so that we can have 8 snow days in the year We get maybe 2 or 3, so we've worked 5 extra days. It's basically slave labor.
And it's more like 195 days with all the inservice days.
Even in states where it is difficult to fire a teacher, there are still ways to get ride of ineffective ones. I've seen it happen several times, they change up the schedule of a teacher to a nightmare scenario. Some teacher who has taught honors pre-calculus for the last 15 years is suddenly told they will be teaching 4 different levels of remedial math and one class of elective psychology or something random they've never taught before (some states allow teachers to teach 1 class outside of their certification to fill the needs of the school). The teacher will then decide they're close enough to retirement and retire, or apply somewhere else.
Ironically, my current school has the least security, but I've seen the fewest teachers let go here. Teachers being let go in Colorado was actually pretty high by comparison, at least for the school I was in.
Each year we'd see several probationary teachers get non-renewed each year. And often a few veteran teachers to either be let go or forced to quit by one of the methods I described earlier.0 -
mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:And don’t get me going on “snow days.” Sign or prediction of one little flake, bam! Schools are closed. And busses? When I was a kid everyone walked to school so why not teachers? Kids and teachers can’t walk in snow? Lazy. Imagine the savings if we got rid of free rides?
We're required to have school 180 days, so they have 188 school days so that we can have 8 snow days in the year We get maybe 2 or 3, so we've worked 5 extra days. It's basically slave labor.
And it's more like 195 days with all the inservice days.
Even in states where it is difficult to fire a teacher, there are still ways to get ride of ineffective ones. I've seen it happen several times, they change up the schedule of a teacher to a nightmare scenario. Some teacher who has taught honors pre-calculus for the last 15 years is suddenly told they will be teaching 4 different levels of remedial math and one class of elective psychology or something random they've never taught before (some states allow teachers to teach 1 class outside of their certification to fill the needs of the school). The teacher will then decide they're close enough to retirement and retire, or apply somewhere else.
Ironically, my current school has the least security, but I've seen the fewest teachers let go here. Teachers being let go in Colorado was actually pretty high by comparison, at least for the school I was in.
Each year we'd see several probationary teachers get non-renewed each year. And often a few veteran teachers to either be let go or forced to quit by one of the methods I described earlier.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:And don’t get me going on “snow days.” Sign or prediction of one little flake, bam! Schools are closed. And busses? When I was a kid everyone walked to school so why not teachers? Kids and teachers can’t walk in snow? Lazy. Imagine the savings if we got rid of free rides?
We're required to have school 180 days, so they have 188 school days so that we can have 8 snow days in the year We get maybe 2 or 3, so we've worked 5 extra days. It's basically slave labor.
And it's more like 195 days with all the inservice days.
Even in states where it is difficult to fire a teacher, there are still ways to get ride of ineffective ones. I've seen it happen several times, they change up the schedule of a teacher to a nightmare scenario. Some teacher who has taught honors pre-calculus for the last 15 years is suddenly told they will be teaching 4 different levels of remedial math and one class of elective psychology or something random they've never taught before (some states allow teachers to teach 1 class outside of their certification to fill the needs of the school). The teacher will then decide they're close enough to retirement and retire, or apply somewhere else.
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tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:And don’t get me going on “snow days.” Sign or prediction of one little flake, bam! Schools are closed. And busses? When I was a kid everyone walked to school so why not teachers? Kids and teachers can’t walk in snow? Lazy. Imagine the savings if we got rid of free rides?
We're required to have school 180 days, so they have 188 school days so that we can have 8 snow days in the year We get maybe 2 or 3, so we've worked 5 extra days. It's basically slave labor.
And it's more like 195 days with all the inservice days.
Even in states where it is difficult to fire a teacher, there are still ways to get ride of ineffective ones. I've seen it happen several times, they change up the schedule of a teacher to a nightmare scenario. Some teacher who has taught honors pre-calculus for the last 15 years is suddenly told they will be teaching 4 different levels of remedial math and one class of elective psychology or something random they've never taught before (some states allow teachers to teach 1 class outside of their certification to fill the needs of the school). The teacher will then decide they're close enough to retirement and retire, or apply somewhere else.www.myspace.com0
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