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  • DE4173DE4173 Posts: 1,124
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,290
    cincybearcat said:
    It's almost as if....and hear me out....Elon Musk is a bad judge of character because....just perhaps....he lacks character.
    I would characterize this as a positive spin. Because when I started reading the sentence, I thought it was going to be. “It’s almost as if… Elon Musk is intentionally hiring cyber criminals so he can take everything over.”

    in other words, I think he judged the character of the people he brought in just fine. He knows what he’s doing.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,536
    OnWis97 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    It's almost as if....and hear me out....Elon Musk is a bad judge of character because....just perhaps....he lacks character.
    I would characterize this as a positive spin. Because when I started reading the sentence, I thought it was going to be. “It’s almost as if… Elon Musk is intentionally hiring cyber criminals so he can take everything over.”

    in other words, I think he judged the character of the people he brought in just fine. He knows what he’s doing.
    Ah, fair enough.
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    Alleged USAID Probe Into Starlink Raises Elon Musk Conflict Concerns

    Published Feb 06, 2025 at 6:01 AM EST
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    USAID was investigating its relationship with Starlink just months before tech billionaire Elon Musk attempted to shut the agency down, according to reports.

    The freezes and cuts to the foreign aid department, spearheaded by Musk as head of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), raise questions of a potential conflict of interest, as Musk is the owner of Starlink, a subsidiary of his company SpaceX.

    Newsweek contacted Elon Musk and Starlink through SpaceX via email.

    Why It Matters

    Fears that Musk and others could use their positions in government to benefit themselves have been around since President Donald Trump won the 2024 election. The move to dismantle USAID is the first major policy decision Musk has made, and the way it is handled will be indicative of how powerful he will be over the next four years.


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,841
    edited February 8
    mickeyrat said:


    Rubes gonna be rubled.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 41,196
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:


    Rubes gonna be rubeled.

    you misspelled rubled
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,841
    mickeyrat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:


    Rubes gonna be rubeled.

    you misspelled rubled
    Indeed I did. Thank you.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,439
    Yeah who’s going to make sure Musky follows the ruling? 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    josevolution said:
    Yeah who’s going to make sure Musky follows the ruling? 
    The same checks and balances that have worked for all of time. In all your fear you fail to remember that important fact. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 41,196
    Bentleyspop said:


    thats the least of it in mind. reports are they are  inserting AI generated code into these systems.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,841
    mickeyrat said:
    Bentleyspop said:


    thats the least of it in mind. reports are they are  inserting AI generated code into these systems.
    Someone might want to give Hillary a call and ask to borrow the hammer and bleach.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,505
    mickeyrat said:
    another member of the doge team



    DOGE Teen Owns ‘Tesla.Sexy LLC’ and Worked at Startup That Has Hired Convicted Hackers

    Experts question whether Edward Coristine, a DOGE staffer who has gone by “Big Balls” online, would pass the background check typically required for access to sensitive US government systems.
    Image may contain Elon Musk Photography Face Head Person Portrait Adult Formal Wear Accessories Tie and Body Part
    Photograph: Saul Loeb-Pool/Getty Images

    A young technologist known online as “Big Balls,” who works for Elon Musk's so-called Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), has access to sensitive US government systems. But his professional and online history call into question whether he would pass the background check typically required to obtain security clearances, security experts tell WIRED.

    Edward Coristine, a 19-year-old high school graduate, established at least five different companies in the last four years, with entities registered in Connecticut, Delaware, and the United Kingdom, most of which were not listed on his now-deleted LinkedIn profile. Coristine also briefly worked in 2022 at Path Network, a network monitoring firm known for hiring reformed blackhat hackers. Someone using a Telegram handle tied to Coristine also solicited a cyberattack-for-hire service later that year.


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    The best computer peeps are usually hackers.  Why wouldnt you want to hire them?  Nothing burger for me here.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,505
    I'm curious as to why, if they, DOGE, really want to save money, look at what we spend the most on?  Military.
    They ae looking to shut down bases which makes zero sense to me.  Those are strategic places of interest.  Unless u want to nuke everyone we need those bases.
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,219
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mickeyrat said:
    another member of the doge team



    DOGE Teen Owns ‘Tesla.Sexy LLC’ and Worked at Startup That Has Hired Convicted Hackers

    Experts question whether Edward Coristine, a DOGE staffer who has gone by “Big Balls” online, would pass the background check typically required for access to sensitive US government systems.
    Image may contain Elon Musk Photography Face Head Person Portrait Adult Formal Wear Accessories Tie and Body Part
    Photograph: Saul Loeb-Pool/Getty Images

    A young technologist known online as “Big Balls,” who works for Elon Musk's so-called Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), has access to sensitive US government systems. But his professional and online history call into question whether he would pass the background check typically required to obtain security clearances, security experts tell WIRED.

    Edward Coristine, a 19-year-old high school graduate, established at least five different companies in the last four years, with entities registered in Connecticut, Delaware, and the United Kingdom, most of which were not listed on his now-deleted LinkedIn profile. Coristine also briefly worked in 2022 at Path Network, a network monitoring firm known for hiring reformed blackhat hackers. Someone using a Telegram handle tied to Coristine also solicited a cyberattack-for-hire service later that year.


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    The best computer peeps are usually hackers.  Why wouldnt you want to hire them?  Nothing burger for me here.
    If they were reportedly responsible for a cyberattack for hire, it doesn’t suggest integrity or strength of character. Hire him for a cybersecurity company, sure, but letting him into the government? Well, not like any of us have a say anyways, so let’s just see how this goes. Hope for the best and anticipate the worst to temper expectations, that’s my MO for the next four years.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,167
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I'm curious as to why, if they, DOGE, really want to save money, look at what we spend the most on?  Military.
    They ae looking to shut down bases which makes zero sense to me.  Those are strategic places of interest.  Unless u want to nuke everyone we need those bases.
    yeah or evaluate how "efficient" it is to spend millions for the president to attend a football game...that's why no other president has attended. It's too fucking expensive and too risky due to security issues.

    or....how efficient is it to travel to maralago every weekend and spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in travel, room and board, for secret service agents. There should be an allowance that, if exceeded, falls back on Mr Moneybags. Let him pay for it like he said he would eight years ago.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,884
    Gern Blansten said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I'm curious as to why, if they, DOGE, really want to save money, look at what we spend the most on?  Military.
    They ae looking to shut down bases which makes zero sense to me.  Those are strategic places of interest.  Unless u want to nuke everyone we need those bases.
    yeah or evaluate how "efficient" it is to spend millions for the president to attend a football game...that's why no other president has attended. It's too fucking expensive and too risky due to security issues.

    or....how efficient is it to travel to maralago every weekend and spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in travel, room and board, for secret service agents. There should be an allowance that, if exceeded, falls back on Mr Moneybags. Let him pay for it like he said he would eight years ago.
    & people are still going to try to have good faith conversations that these guys are looking to reign in wasteful spending despite all this evidence to the contrary.

    My attitude is that of Benjs, there's little we can do about it now besides hope for the best, but that doesn't make the willful ignorance any less frustrating.  
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,167
    Merkin Baller said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I'm curious as to why, if they, DOGE, really want to save money, look at what we spend the most on?  Military.
    They ae looking to shut down bases which makes zero sense to me.  Those are strategic places of interest.  Unless u want to nuke everyone we need those bases.
    yeah or evaluate how "efficient" it is to spend millions for the president to attend a football game...that's why no other president has attended. It's too fucking expensive and too risky due to security issues.

    or....how efficient is it to travel to maralago every weekend and spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in travel, room and board, for secret service agents. There should be an allowance that, if exceeded, falls back on Mr Moneybags. Let him pay for it like he said he would eight years ago.
    & people are still going to try to have good faith conversations that these guys are looking to reign in wasteful spending despite all this evidence to the contrary.

    My attitude is that of Benjs, there's little we can do about it now besides hope for the best, but that doesn't make the willful ignorance any less frustrating.  
    Yeah it's going to be a weird period of time. They haven't even been doing this for more than a few weeks and they are already throwing around the "fraud" accusations. No way they could determine if anything is fraudulent at this point. It's just bullshit but yeah...not a thing that we can do about it.

    Yesterday I kept seeing all kinds of shit about Musk spending $40mil to run Superbowl ads about the "fraud" they were uncovering. Nothing Musk said...just shit generated online that, once again, turns out to be bullshit. 
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 10,056
    Gern Blansten said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I'm curious as to why, if they, DOGE, really want to save money, look at what we spend the most on?  Military.
    They ae looking to shut down bases which makes zero sense to me.  Those are strategic places of interest.  Unless u want to nuke everyone we need those bases.
    yeah or evaluate how "efficient" it is to spend millions for the president to attend a football game...that's why no other president has attended. It's too fucking expensive and too risky due to security issues.

    or....how efficient is it to travel to maralago every weekend and spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in travel, room and board, for secret service agents. There should be an allowance that, if exceeded, falls back on Mr Moneybags. Let him pay for it like he said he would eight years ago.
    I was thinking about the extravagant lift it must be for a president to attend that game when I was watching last night. Unfortunately it seems people really don't care about those expenses because our president should be able to live like a king while in office. That's how he views it. He wouldn't have gone if it was a blue state. He goes so the Mahomes' family can get some selfies for their MAGA support and then salutes for the anthem like he has some sort of military history. He just wastes tax payers money constantly. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,219
    Merkin Baller said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I'm curious as to why, if they, DOGE, really want to save money, look at what we spend the most on?  Military.
    They ae looking to shut down bases which makes zero sense to me.  Those are strategic places of interest.  Unless u want to nuke everyone we need those bases.
    yeah or evaluate how "efficient" it is to spend millions for the president to attend a football game...that's why no other president has attended. It's too fucking expensive and too risky due to security issues.

    or....how efficient is it to travel to maralago every weekend and spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in travel, room and board, for secret service agents. There should be an allowance that, if exceeded, falls back on Mr Moneybags. Let him pay for it like he said he would eight years ago.
    & people are still going to try to have good faith conversations that these guys are looking to reign in wasteful spending despite all this evidence to the contrary.

    My attitude is that of Benjs, there's little we can do about it now besides hope for the best, but that doesn't make the willful ignorance any less frustrating.  
    If after all these years of Trump a person is still demonstrating willful ignorance, just don’t bother engaging. These are people who have shown themselves unwilling to engage logically, or even civilly. 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,167
    tbergs said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I'm curious as to why, if they, DOGE, really want to save money, look at what we spend the most on?  Military.
    They ae looking to shut down bases which makes zero sense to me.  Those are strategic places of interest.  Unless u want to nuke everyone we need those bases.
    yeah or evaluate how "efficient" it is to spend millions for the president to attend a football game...that's why no other president has attended. It's too fucking expensive and too risky due to security issues.

    or....how efficient is it to travel to maralago every weekend and spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in travel, room and board, for secret service agents. There should be an allowance that, if exceeded, falls back on Mr Moneybags. Let him pay for it like he said he would eight years ago.
    I was thinking about the extravagant lift it must be for a president to attend that game when I was watching last night. Unfortunately it seems people really don't care about those expenses because our president should be able to live like a king while in office. That's how he views it. He wouldn't have gone if it was a blue state. He goes so the Mahomes' family can get some selfies for their MAGA support and then salutes for the anthem like he has some sort of military history. He just wastes tax payers money constantly. 
    Yeah it's always so hilarious to see that stupid fucker saluting the anthem. What a fucknut


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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 41,196
    edited February 10
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I'm curious as to why, if they, DOGE, really want to save money, loyok at what we spend the most on?  Military.
    They ae looking to shut down bases which makes zero sense to me.  Those are strategic places of interest.  Unless u want to nuke everyone we need those bases.

    you should read the constitution   it says the Congress is in charge of budgetary matters. executive gets involved when its time to sign a bill or veto a bill.


    this is government 101

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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,290
    edited February 10
    A bunch of people who don't know how to run a government have come in with nothing but ideology, addiction to twitter praise, and conflicts of interest. This has absolutely nothing to do with government efficiency.
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,482
    OnWis97 said:
    A bunch of people who don't know how to run a government have come in with nothing but ideology, addiction to twitter praise, and conflicts of interest. This has absolutely nothing to do with government efficiency.
    but its the most representative democracy. like, ever.


  • tbergstbergs Posts: 10,056
    OnWis97 said:
    A bunch of people who don't know how to run a government have come in with nothing but ideology, addiction to twitter praise, and conflicts of interest. This has absolutely nothing to do with government efficiency.
    And then you get Vance basically saying, the judiciary has no right to stop executive action. What a fuck wad. It just confuses the already dim bulbs supporting this bullshit. Mission accomplished. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,884
    benjs said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I'm curious as to why, if they, DOGE, really want to save money, look at what we spend the most on?  Military.
    They ae looking to shut down bases which makes zero sense to me.  Those are strategic places of interest.  Unless u want to nuke everyone we need those bases.
    yeah or evaluate how "efficient" it is to spend millions for the president to attend a football game...that's why no other president has attended. It's too fucking expensive and too risky due to security issues.

    or....how efficient is it to travel to maralago every weekend and spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in travel, room and board, for secret service agents. There should be an allowance that, if exceeded, falls back on Mr Moneybags. Let him pay for it like he said he would eight years ago.
    & people are still going to try to have good faith conversations that these guys are looking to reign in wasteful spending despite all this evidence to the contrary.

    My attitude is that of Benjs, there's little we can do about it now besides hope for the best, but that doesn't make the willful ignorance any less frustrating.  
    If after all these years of Trump a person is still demonstrating willful ignorance, just don’t bother engaging. These are people who have shown themselves unwilling to engage logically, or even civilly. 
    I'm working on it. 
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