F2F is OPEN

Chrrie

Lerxst1992 said:

steven87 said:

Chrrie said:

RP123663 said:

ally12 said:

GlowGirl said:

ally12 said:

How much refreshing is a red flag, I have been on all day and no warning. Are people refreshing every 2-3 minutes? 

Every 2-3 minutes should be ok. But you might not get a warning. One time you will refresh and you will get the “your account has been paused message” just popping up. 

Unfortunately, many of us have realized over years of doing F2F that you have to refresh multiple times a minute to even have a slight chance of scoring a ticket. So that is the problem. 

Ahh ok, it’s the aggressive F5. Right now there isn’t much on there. I guess I’ll keep trying.

Yeah, there is no advantage of rapid fire refreshing as there are no tickets being sold. All of the tickets are in the hands of the scalpers, just as the band intended.

In a forgotten alley in West Seattle, Ed looks behind his shoulder and adjusts the brim of his dark grey fedora as he rushes through an obscured rusty metal door. Behind it, stairs lead down into a dimly lit basement. Matt and Jeff are sitting at a polished mahogany bar, curious as to why this emergency meeting has been called. Stone breaks the silence from across the room, “I thought you only wore those hats on stage to piss the fans off…”

Ed ignores the rhetorical question and, concerned, admits, “I don’t think we’re doing enough to get tickets into the hands of scalpers. I’ve been refreshing fan to fan all morning without being botted once.” 

Boom pops up from behind the bar and responds calmly, “ahhhh let me call my guy at Ticketmaster. It’ll be handled.” He passes out shots of limoncello on a solid gold plate and the band shares a toast to the success of the upcoming tour. 

This is pure gold. Well done 👏🤣

If Ed hires a contractor to make his lawn and gardens look beautiful and it turns out yellow and dead, will he ignore the work of his contractor?

That is no different than hiring a contractor to keep fan club tickets out of the hands of scalpers. That can be done quicker than it took you to compose that story.

My aim was to highlight the absurdity of the statement that the band’s intention all along is to get more tickets to scalpers. 

I’ve already contacted the 10c via email with my observation of the situation and how it’s affecting us.  

Houryo

Now that my account is unblocked I will be listing a pair of Nashville 1 rear lower bowl Sec 120 at approx Noon PT.  I will provide a link here.

JimmyV

Original_Shifty said:

Many were quick to jump on 10C and "the band" for this TM account mess. Perhaps there were phone calls made that we won't ever know about.

I hope if everyone's accounts continue to be unlocked there will be some walk back, but I'll be surprised if there is. There's always something to blame them for I guess.

An update from Tim Bierman/@Rubysdad would let us know if this was true. Happy to credit him if so. 

RP123663

danofun said:

RP123663 said:

danofun said:

RP123663 said:

SHZA said:

Maybe need to amend the title. "F2F bitchfest is OPEN"

Or maybe the original title was wrong.  There is no such thing as F2F.  This thread should be labeled F2B is OPEN (Fan to Bot), which is 100% accurate. 

https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/301792/official-complainers-thread/p15

The irony of someone complaining about people complaining.

A member for 23 years. 26 of your 103 lifetime comments have taken place in the last week. Every one of those a barrage of negativity.

Having an opinion is welcomed. State it and move on. The complainers thread, not this one, exist for individuals looking to repeatedly voice their displeasure.

Oh wow. So not only are you a complainer about complaining, you are also a sicko stalker.  Yikes.  

YAKIMATSU

Houryo said:

Now that my account is unblocked I will be listing a pair of Nashville 1 rear lower bowl Sec 120 at approx Noon PT.  I will provide a link here.

Congrats on the unblock.

JimmyV

Glad people are getting back in. 'Tis the season for miracles!

craigraether

JimmyV said:

Glad people are getting back in. 'Tis the season for miracles!

Slow your roll on miracles, getting actual 10C F2F scores would be the miracle.....LOL, accounts restored is just pease on earth. 

JimmyV

craigraether said:

JimmyV said:

Glad people are getting back in. 'Tis the season for miracles!

Slow your roll on miracles, getting actual 10C F2F scores would be the miracle.....LOL, accounts restored is just pease on earth. 

I'm reminded of Father Guido Sarducci trying to pass off card tricks as miracles. 

danofun

RP123663 said:

danofun said:

RP123663 said:

danofun said:

RP123663 said:

SHZA said:

Maybe need to amend the title. "F2F bitchfest is OPEN"

Or maybe the original title was wrong.  There is no such thing as F2F.  This thread should be labeled F2B is OPEN (Fan to Bot), which is 100% accurate. 

https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/301792/official-complainers-thread/p15

The irony of someone complaining about people complaining.

A member for 23 years. 26 of your 103 lifetime comments have taken place in the last week. Every one of those a barrage of negativity.

Having an opinion is welcomed. State it and move on. The complainers thread, not this one, exist for individuals looking to repeatedly voice their displeasure.

Oh wow. So not only are you a complainer about complaining, you are also a sicko stalker.  Yikes.  

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JeBurkhardt

Well, once again a thread goes off the rails. I. am. shocked.

Taltaxir

https://my.ticketmaster.com/ds/vQGAAeCnle/event/0E006183CABF35CE
Atlanta 2

EH14457

There’s a part of me that’s not surprised at all they’re walking this back. I wonder if someone at TM finally realized that if they aggressively ban any humans who have a real shot at F2F tickets, they lose any plausible deniability for how the tickets end up on reseller sites. 

I’m still confident that favored partners have an inside track to the best F2F tickets, but as long as TM allows humans to refresh like crazy, there’s no way to prove that without an inside source. So, from that perspective, this is the smarter move for them. 

GlowGirl

EH14457 said:

There’s a part of me that’s not surprised at all they’re walking this back. I wonder if someone at TM finally realized that if they aggressively ban any humans who have a real shot at F2F tickets, they lose any plausible deniability for how the tickets end up on reseller sites. 

I’m still confident that favored partners have an inside track to the best F2F tickets, but as long as TM allows humans to refresh like crazy, there’s no way to prove that without an inside source. So, from that perspective, this is the smarter move for them. 

I still don't think they are going to allow us to refresh like crazy. That could cause another ban.

KJ228171

JimmyV said:

Original_Shifty said:

Many were quick to jump on 10C and "the band" for this TM account mess. Perhaps there were phone calls made that we won't ever know about.

I hope if everyone's accounts continue to be unlocked there will be some walk back, but I'll be surprised if there is. There's always something to blame them for I guess.

An update from Tim Bierman/@Rubysdad would let us know if this was true. Happy to credit him if so. 

For what it’s worth I did reach out to him and Sarah Seilers. Figured they would be out of office for the holidays. Also possible TM was flooded with people contacting them about the problem. A few here and there might not make a difference but a bunch of ticket buyers blocked over the same events might have triggered something internally as a flag. We probably will never know but it’s probably some combination of the two.

Douglas12373

TIL that 10C forum has a block function!

JimmyV

U521 on a pair of Pitt 1 lowers. Closest I have come to scoring. 

SVRDhand13

JimmyV said:

U521 on a pair of Pitt 1 lowers. Closest I have come to scoring. 

I saw those.  But now I see nothing because TM blocked me.  See you in May I guess! 

GlowGirl

SVRDhand13 said:

JimmyV said:

U521 on a pair of Pitt 1 lowers. Closest I have come to scoring. 

I saw those.  But now I see nothing because TM blocked me.  See you in May I guess! 

Were you blocked before and they reblocked you? Or is this your first block?

SVRDhand13

GlowGirl said:

SVRDhand13 said:

JimmyV said:

U521 on a pair of Pitt 1 lowers. Closest I have come to scoring. 

I saw those.  But now I see nothing because TM blocked me.  See you in May I guess! 

Were you blocked before and they reblocked you? Or is this your first block?

First block

GlowGirl

SVRDhand13 said:

GlowGirl said:

SVRDhand13 said:

JimmyV said:

U521 on a pair of Pitt 1 lowers. Closest I have come to scoring. 

I saw those.  But now I see nothing because TM blocked me.  See you in May I guess! 

Were you blocked before and they reblocked you? Or is this your first block?

First block

Ugh. Hopefully, they have given up on permanent blocks. If so, it just might be a week or so. They really need to change whatever algorithm they are using to block humans. It can't seem to tell the difference between human speed and bot speed.