I will never understand the merch craze. But if people enjoy it good for them.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
My guess is they’ll be few and far between between now and April. Then things will start to pick up. But in the meantime, if anyone would like to give me a Pitt N1 GA so I don’t have to stress about it for the next four months, it would be much appreciated! 🙏 😀🤣
Probably a different poster for each show and n2 won't be available until the off day. If n1 doesn't sell out it could be available still on the off day. I usually just buy them in the 10c shop instead of waiting in line.
The thing is buying them online means paying 15$ shipping for each poster. I really want to avoid that. I'm stingy.
$15 vs 3 hours in line. I'm good with that.
Except if there is an epic poster your risk not getting on the 10c drop, ( Phl2, VO Chi,) ETC.. Philly sold out in 30 seconds or less... If see the poster is must have ill wait the 3 hours and not risk the stress.
If you love it that much, by all means. Those tend to be few and far between. Even missing the 10c drop on Van Orton, the ebay price ($125-$150) would still be worth it to me not to wait in line if I have something better to do. I actually waited in line in Chicago since I was already waiting in the GA line but didn't bother with any posters because I didn't feel like traveling with the tubes. I thought the Van Orton was cool at the time but didn't consider it epic among the great PJ posters. I also mostly collected APs in the past. If I'm going to buy the AP anyway, that's even less reason to wait in line for a show edition. But now that they started doing variants for the APs some of the show editions are better. Like the Van Orton yellow looks better than the green on the AP.
Based on Facebook posts, most people probably don’t even know what F2F is yet.
The Facebook groups are getting filled with scalpers/scammers. In the wishlist group they started a vouch/verified member thread and there are very few people that are getting verified or getting vouched for.. a lot of ISO posts though.
2005: Ottawa / 2011: Ottawa / 2016: Ottawa / 2022: Ottawa / 2022:Quebec City / 2024: Vancouver / 2024: Vancouver / 2024: New York City
I will never understand the merch craze. But if people enjoy it good for them.
Profit. That is all.
I doubt a very high percentage of people actually make money on this stuff.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
I will never understand the merch craze. But if people enjoy it good for them.
Profit. That is all.
Not everybody cares as much about money as you seem to.
1996 Charlotte 1998 Raleigh 2000 Virginia Beach 2003 Raleigh 2016 RaleighThanks HB2 2016 Columbia 2020 BaltimoreThanks COVID 2022 BaltimoreThe only original COVID venue not rescheduled (due to construction) :( 2022 Denver 2024 Baltimore 2025 Raleigh 1 and 2
For every person who profits, there's a willing buyer. So profit can only explain half the craze at most. As a percentage of people in line, flippers are a small group I think
For every person who profits, there's a willing buyer. So profit can only explain half the craze at most. As a percentage of people in line, flippers are a small group I think
A small group with an oversized influence. Some guy at the front of the line bought 10 of the Philly N2 while we were about 10 people back. Unless he was wallpapering a room those all were going to eBay probably right then and there. I have a feeling a lot of the Boston hoodies were flipped but that's more of a hassle to do than posters. But yeah the fact that where's a market whether natural or artificial (from FOMO) is problematic.
They should announce a no merch tour.. see if anyone shows up.
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For every person who profits, there's a willing buyer. So profit can only explain half the craze at most. As a percentage of people in line, flippers are a small group I think
A small group with an oversized influence. Some guy at the front of the line bought 10 of the Philly N2 while we were about 10 people back. Unless he was wallpapering a room those all were going to eBay probably right then and there. I have a feeling a lot of the Boston hoodies were flipped but that's more of a hassle to do than posters. But yeah the fact that where's a market whether natural or artificial (from FOMO) is problematic.
That's a failure by the staff not enforcing the limit. No surprise a pro flipper would try to buy as many as they could get away with
They should announce a no merch tour.. see if anyone shows up.
The band is doing roughly $500,000 in merch sales per show at your typical arena/amphitheatre venue, not counting sales during days off, and it’s a crucial revenue generator. The crew is incorporated into the profit sharing as well.
To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
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They should announce a no merch tour.. see if anyone shows up.
The band is doing roughly $500,000 in merch sales per show at your typical arena/amphitheatre venue, not counting sales during days off, and it’s a crucial revenue generator. The crew is incorporated into the profit sharing as well.
I'm not sure how practical it is but would love to see a system where your ticket has a code that allows you to buy a poster and/or t-shirt from that particular show. You would have to purchase it ahead of time and pick it up at merch.
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I'm not sure how practical it is but would love to see a system where your ticket has a code that allows you to buy a poster and/or t-shirt from that particular show. You would have to purchase it ahead of time and pick it up at merch.
LiveNation already have system in place. For VIP tickets they mail the package to people ahead of time or give the items at the door. They could offer an add-on like the commemorative tickets and just mail the items. They also did the free Nugs downloads in the fall so a lot is possible with the existing infrastructure.
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27& 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
Back in bot jail despite having been very careful since the first ban to not do anything that would look like a bot. Only checking a few times a day, waiting at least 3 seconds before changing filters or toggling between map and list. Very frustrating.
Back in bot jail despite having been very careful since the first ban to not do anything that would look like a bot. Only checking a few times a day, waiting at least 3 seconds before changing filters or toggling between map and list. Very frustrating.
Why would toggling between map or list view be a cause for an alert? I thought it was just refreshing the page that caused problems. Are you refreshing before you change views?
2005: Ottawa / 2011: Ottawa / 2016: Ottawa / 2022: Ottawa / 2022:Quebec City / 2024: Vancouver / 2024: Vancouver / 2024: New York City
Back in bot jail despite having been very careful since the first ban to not do anything that would look like a bot. Only checking a few times a day, waiting at least 3 seconds before changing filters or toggling between map and list. Very frustrating.
Why would toggling between map or list view be a cause for an alert? I thought it was just refreshing the page that caused problems. Are you refreshing before you change views?
I really never refresh the pages. I think these are the 2 bullets TM tends to use as a blanket reason for bans:
Take any action that imposes or may impose (in our sole discretion) an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on our infrastructure.
Access, reload, or refresh transactional event or ticketing pages, or make any other request to transactional servers, more than once during any three-second interval.
Things like changing filters (1 vs 2 tickets, price slider, F2F-only, etc...) or toggling between map and list view all make requests to ticketing pages, so those can also cause problems. Still, I've been really careful to wait between changing anything.
Apparently it's just my mobile device that's banned at the moment, as I'm still able to access my account through my laptop. So maybe this isn't behavior-based at all, and I just checked from some network IP that raised flags while on the move earlier today? No idea. So dumb.
Just wait until a week or two before the shows. There will be drops.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Back in bot jail despite having been very careful since the first ban to not do anything that would look like a bot. Only checking a few times a day, waiting at least 3 seconds before changing filters or toggling between map and list. Very frustrating.
Why would toggling between map or list view be a cause for an alert? I thought it was just refreshing the page that caused problems. Are you refreshing before you change views?
I really never refresh the pages. I think these are the 2 bullets TM tends to use as a blanket reason for bans:
Take any action that imposes or may impose (in our sole discretion) an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on our infrastructure.
Access, reload, or refresh transactional event or ticketing pages, or make any other request to transactional servers, more than once during any three-second interval.
Things like changing filters (1 vs 2 tickets, price slider, F2F-only, etc...) or toggling between map and list view all make requests to ticketing pages, so those can also cause problems. Still, I've been really careful to wait between changing anything.
Apparently it's just my mobile device that's banned at the moment, as I'm still able to access my account through my laptop. So maybe this isn't behavior-based at all, and I just checked from some network IP that raised flags while on the move earlier today? No idea. So dumb.
Ohh wow.. I thought it was just refreshing the page trigger an issue. I guess it makes sense, when you move around the filters the map changes. Good to know they are looking at everything and to be mindful
2005: Ottawa / 2011: Ottawa / 2016: Ottawa / 2022: Ottawa / 2022:Quebec City / 2024: Vancouver / 2024: Vancouver / 2024: New York City
Tracking my L’s for Atl 2 cuz it’s fun to quantify pain! 😆 0/14 ☠️ ☠️ ☠️ -6 GA pairs -3 GA singles -2 Flr 1 pairs -3 front 1/2 of arena lower bowl pairs
Tracking my L’s for Atl 2 cuz it’s fun to quantify pain! 😆 0/14 ☠️ ☠️ ☠️ -6 GA pairs -3 GA singles -2 Flr 1 pairs -3 front 1/2 of arena lower bowl pairs
Wow. Impressive you've had that many opportunities without being banned
Tracking my L’s for Atl 2 cuz it’s fun to quantify pain! 😆 0/14 ☠️ ☠️ ☠️ -6 GA pairs -3 GA singles -2 Flr 1 pairs -3 front 1/2 of arena lower bowl pairs
Wow. Impressive you've had that many opportunities without being banned
Tracking my L’s for Atl 2 cuz it’s fun to quantify pain! 😆 0/14 ☠️ ☠️ ☠️ -6 GA pairs -3 GA singles -2 Flr 1 pairs -3 front 1/2 of arena lower bowl pairs
Wow. Impressive you've had that many opportunities without being banned
So far so good 🤞…Not that it’s doing me any good.
What are you doing to see the listings? Any manual updates to the page? Or literally just leaving it open and waiting for new tickets to pop up?
Posting again for shigiggles. Looking for a single for N1 Pittsburgh. I'd buy 2 tickets and relist one F2F if needed.. definitely just going to be me. I really want to make a few days out of my trip and see both shows, it'll probably be my vacation for the year. I know so many people are after tickets for this show. I've been checking TM like crazy for weeks.. anyway.. please message me if you're willing to set up a listing at an odd hour and message me the link. I legit already check when I randomly wake up throughout the night haha
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Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
1998 Raleigh
2000 Virginia Beach
2003 Raleigh
2016 Raleigh Thanks HB2
2016 Columbia
2020 Baltimore Thanks COVID
2022 Baltimore The only original COVID venue not rescheduled (due to construction) :(
2022 Denver
2024 Baltimore
2025 Raleigh 1 and 2
St. Paul 2014 • Mexico City 2015 • Philadelphia II 2016 • Ottawa 2016 • Amsterdam I & II 2018 • Wrigley Field II 2018 • Phoenix 2022
Apollo Theater 2022 • Chicago I 2023 • Baltimore 2024
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore
1998 Raleigh
2000 Virginia Beach
2003 Raleigh
2016 Raleigh Thanks HB2
2016 Columbia
2020 Baltimore Thanks COVID
2022 Baltimore The only original COVID venue not rescheduled (due to construction) :(
2022 Denver
2024 Baltimore
2025 Raleigh 1 and 2
https://www.ticketmaster.com/pearl-jam-dark-matter-us-tour-nashville-tennessee-05-06-2025/event/1B006183E7064D5C
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
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Take any action that imposes or may impose (in our sole discretion) an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on our infrastructure.
Access, reload, or refresh transactional event or ticketing pages, or make any other request to transactional servers, more than once during any three-second interval.
Apparently it's just my mobile device that's banned at the moment, as I'm still able to access my account through my laptop. So maybe this isn't behavior-based at all, and I just checked from some network IP that raised flags while on the move earlier today? No idea. So dumb.
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Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
0/14 ☠️ ☠️ ☠️
-6 GA pairs
-3 GA singles
-2 Flr 1 pairs
-3 front 1/2 of arena lower bowl pairs
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