Will Call would be a lot harder to operate with how many more tickets are going to 10c at each venue today compared to before. The biggest argument against Will Call was that if we suddenly couldn’t go, 10c did not allow us to change the name on the tickets. Rarely did they do it. That’s why I say let us transfer to other 10c emails. There have also been hiccups - Gorge 2006 I think 2/3 of the venue missed the first few songs. Bristow 2010 they couldn’t find my tickets but saw my confirmation and worked it out.
At the end of the day PJ wants to sell as many tickets as possible to their fan club because it fills seats for the promoter. That’s why no priority and uppers. The uppers started with the harder shows, now it’s become standard.
F2F and the TM drops have actually made going to as many shows as possible, easier. Definitely was harder before Covid, but that’s why we all made connections with each other on this forum. The sad part is that they say they’re going to do something about the resales on the secondary market, but don’t. At least make a “Top 3 Priority” or only allow us to enter for 1 more than half of the shows. If there’s 10 shows we can only enter for 6.
2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore, Ohana 2
Also part of the reason we are in this ticket situation is because 10C continuously failed to sell its reserved ticket allotment in smaller markets. Ticketmaster wanted a better system to guarantee these sales and here we are stuck with a system that now allows 10C tickets to be easily scalped. You think PJ would give a shit but it does not seem to be the case surprisingly.
Ticketmaster benefits greatly from scalpers scooping up these tickets
It gives a false belief that a show is harder to get than it really is allowing their premium tickets to be the ones that are always available to the casual fan not refreshing all day.
The other thing is those tickets that were snatched up by a scalper will not likely ever be put back on fan to fan again. It removes the chance of a ticket being sold over and over again which I assume is a huge headache for Ticketmaster especially if the show is cancelled. It hurts the fan refreshing too making less and less fan to fan drops being available to them . This especially hurts GA.
I've also been in jail for over 48 hours at this point, and based on past experiences I'm not expecting to be out any time soon.
I think what's most frustrating is that there are some really clear passive criteria TM could use to identify who is and isn't actually a bot/scalper. My TM account has probably purchased hundreds of tickets in the past years, and 90+% of them have been used without being sold or transferred. The few that have been sold (even ignoring F2F after upgrades) have been sold at roughly face value literally every time. In what universe is that behavior consistent with scalping or trying to game their system?
Even ignoring the idea of using sensible logic, they could have an appeals process with a whitelist at the IP level, account level, device ID level, anything. But they don't have formal processes for any of that. If you get lucky with CS, you might find somebody who's willing to help you. Otherwise you get a useless generic response.
The whole 'blocking' charade is optics over utility, just so they can project that they're doing something. They have no incentive to do more than that.
Have you tried to list tickets (without completing the listing)? I wonder if they would have to lift the block to even let you try.
Replying to myself. I'm been put in TM jail and this does not work even though TM texted me a code. My disdain for this company knows no bounds. And it's not related to the IP this time because I have a work TM account (which I can't use for personal tickets) that lets me in with on problem on the same network.
Posting two tickets for Raleigh may 11 today, section 104
I'm locked out but I'm sure people on this board would appreciate it if you told them the time and posted the direct link TM will give you. It gives people hear a extra minute before it going live to the world. Also good of you to give a heads up.
Reading this thread, what are we doing for the preferred method of selling tickets to fans? Posting on this thread the time we are hitting the sell button and posting the link on here?
Reading this thread, what are we doing for the preferred method of selling tickets to fans? Posting on this thread the time we are hitting the sell button and posting the link on here?
Reading this thread, what are we doing for the preferred method of selling tickets to fans? Posting on this thread the time we are hitting the sell button and posting the link on here?
That works
But isn’t it that when someone hits the sellbutton, and somewhere someone else is refreshing the hell out of his browser he will be way faster by the time the link is posted here?
Reading this thread, what are we doing for the preferred method of selling tickets to fans? Posting on this thread the time we are hitting the sell button and posting the link on here?
That works
But isn’t it that when someone hits the sellbutton, and somewhere someone else is refreshing the hell out of his browser he will be way faster by the time the link is posted here?
No. Once the seller hits sell or "submit listing" and gets the link, it usually takes a minute or two before the tickets can be carted through the link, and then another couple minutes before someone without the link would see them on the event page. So, as long as the link is posted here immediately after hitting the sell button it won't be too late.
Reading this thread, what are we doing for the preferred method of selling tickets to fans? Posting on this thread the time we are hitting the sell button and posting the link on here?
That works
But isn’t it that when someone hits the sellbutton, and somewhere someone else is refreshing the hell out of his browser he will be way faster by the time the link is posted here?
No. Once the seller hits sell or "submit listing" and gets the link, it usually takes a minute or two before the tickets can be carted through the link, and then another couple minutes before someone without the link would see them on the event page. So, as link as the link is posted here immediately after hitting the sell button it won't be too late.
Travelled from Boston to Chicago yesterday. Multiple networks along the way. Still in TM jail on mobile. No problems on my laptop. Weird.
Weird indeed.
My account's been timed out of browsing from my phone, work PC and home laptop since Friday afternoon.
It's the same "Pause" for me since last night. It's not tied to my IP because I have a second account that's strictly used for the business that still lets me in on those same devices. It's frozen on the account level.
Travelled from Boston to Chicago yesterday. Multiple networks along the way. Still in TM jail on mobile. No problems on my laptop. Weird.
Weird indeed.
My account's been timed out of browsing from my phone, work PC and home laptop since Friday afternoon.
It's the same "Pause" for me since last night. It's not tied to my IP because I have a second account that's strictly used for the business that still lets me in on those same devices. It's frozen on the account level.
I have been frozen via account since Friday, so dont expect it to go away anytime soon, sadly
2010: Cleveland 2012: Atlanta 2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II 2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver 2015: New York City 2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco 2017: Ohana Fest (EV) 2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II 2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2 2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver 2023: St. Paul II 2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
If anyone has a front half of the building lower single or pair for Pittsburgh (either show) or Nashville 1 please send me a message.
Happy Festivus.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Travelled from Boston to Chicago yesterday. Multiple networks along the way. Still in TM jail on mobile. No problems on my laptop. Weird.
Weird indeed.
My account's been timed out of browsing from my phone, work PC and home laptop since Friday afternoon.
It's the same "Pause" for me since last night. It's not tied to my IP because I have a second account that's strictly used for the business that still lets me in on those same devices. It's frozen on the account level.
I have been frozen via account since Friday, so dont expect it to go away anytime soon, sadly
Gave TM a call and they are going to escalate the issue because all the trouble shooting steps didn’t work. Rep said it would probably clear itself up but someone will call in 3-5 business days. At least I won’t be wasting time refresh pages over the holiday. Strangely it will let me sell tickets if I wanted to and sends a verification txt to start the process. I can also search if I’m not logged into the app.
Travelled from Boston to Chicago yesterday. Multiple networks along the way. Still in TM jail on mobile. No problems on my laptop. Weird.
Weird indeed.
My account's been timed out of browsing from my phone, work PC and home laptop since Friday afternoon.
It's the same "Pause" for me since last night. It's not tied to my IP because I have a second account that's strictly used for the business that still lets me in on those same devices. It's frozen on the account level.
I have been frozen via account since Friday, so dont expect it to go away anytime soon, sadly
same here, been locked out for days. Pretty frustrating
2016: Telluride, CO 2018: Fenway 1 2021: Sea.Hear.Now 2022: San Diego, MSG, Camden 2023: Ft. Worth 1, Ft. Worth 2, Austin 1, Austin 2 2024: Las Vegas 1, Las Vegas 2, Wrigley 1, Wrigley 2, MSG 1, MSG 2, Philly 2, Fenway 1, Fenway 2
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The sad part is that they say they’re going to do something about the resales on the secondary market, but don’t. At least make a “Top 3 Priority” or only allow us to enter for 1 more than half of the shows. If there’s 10 shows we can only enter for 6.
It gives a false belief that a show is harder to get than it really is allowing their premium tickets to be the ones that are always available to the casual fan not refreshing all day.
I'm looking for Raleigh N1 - mine is in the 200s and I'd like not to be there.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
My account's been timed out of browsing from my phone, work PC and home laptop since Friday afternoon.
Lots of folks don't even have that yet.
Account - doesn’t matter what device or network you use. You’re blocked.
10/7/96 (FL), 9/22/98 (FL), 9/23/98 (FL), 8/9/00 (FL), 8/10/00 (FL), 8/12/00 (FL), 4/11/03 (FL), 4/12/03 (FL), 4/13/03 (FL), 7/8/03 (NY), 7/9/03 (NY), 7/12/03 (PA), 7/14/03 (NJ), 10/8/04 (FL), 8/5/07 (IL), 11/27/12 (FL), 12/6/13 (WA), 4/8/16 (FL), 4/9/16 (FL), 4/11/16 (FL), 8/5/16 (MA), 8/22/16 (IL), 8/8/18 (WA), 8/10/18 (WA), 9/25/21 (CA), 9/26/21 (CA), 5/3/22 (CA), 5/12/22 (CA), 5/13/22 (CA), 9/18/23 (TX), 9/19/23 (TX), 10/23/23 (WA), 10/24/23 (WA), 5/28/24 (WA), 5/30/24 (WA)
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
2018: Fenway 1
2021: Sea.Hear.Now
2022: San Diego, MSG, Camden
2023: Ft. Worth 1, Ft. Worth 2, Austin 1, Austin 2
2024: Las Vegas 1, Las Vegas 2, Wrigley 1, Wrigley 2, MSG 1, MSG 2, Philly 2, Fenway 1, Fenway 2