I’ve just been going back and forth between 2 tickets and 1 ticket as a way to refresh. Is this getting people blocked?
That is what I was doing yesterday when they blocked me. I was told I was on too long - whatever that means.
Maybe a dumb question.... but if BOTs are getting all the tickets that randomly drop, no one reporting any wins.. why is everyone wasting their time refreshing? ... I say focus on making deals and finding people who will share the sale link with, plus 1 walk in trades, and account shares.. Im done refreshing... wasted 2 plus days on it already... waiting until I see SHZA post BOOM and screen shot of a ticket win.
Lots of people have scored in F2F...,myself included. But go off I guess.
What have you scored? How far out from show day?
Did you use a link to get it or refresh for hours and beat the bots?
No links here. Just (obsessively) refreshing: GA for San Diego 22 Front row near lowers for Oakland 22 Near lowers for both EV Benaroya shows First row floor behind GA for Seattle 24
It’s not for everyone, but if you have the right personality to make a game out of it, it can be done. You’ll hate yourself a little bit for the amount of time you put in, but at least you’ll have great seats. 😆
I have put too many hours into to know how it works and that the game has changed significantly. As have others that post here.
You will see if you spend any kind of time on it with this tour.
I'm sure there will be scores eventually, but I think what Craig was getting at is whether it's worth spending time on now. What's the best score anyone has so far since it opened two days ago? Any lowers or floors closer than mid court? I have only spent about 5 minutes on it so far myself. I did sell 4 pairs of reserved lowers which weren't great seats.
I'm sure there will be scores eventually, but I think what Craig was getting at is whether it's worth spending time on now. What's the best score anyone has so far since it opened two days ago? Any lowers or floors closer than mid court? I have only spent about 5 minutes on it so far myself. I did sell 4 pairs of reserved lowers which weren't great seats.
I think there are a bunch of factors at play…
- F2F opened earlier than people were expecting. There just haven’t been many tickets listed so far (anecdotally based on my browsing, compared to when the floodgates opened previously because we were closer to show dates and people knew more definitively that they would not be going).
- Bots are for sure more of a factor than they were when F2F started
- TM is blocking human users more readily and severely than they did previously.
- Fewer shows, East Coast.
I agree this will be more difficult than it was previously. People will still have successes though. Is it worth it? TBD. 🤷🏻♂️
I have looked for a couple minutes, but I think 2 weeks out is when the gates will open. Not flood gates for this tour though, dammit. 4+ months out seems like a waste of time unless you get a heads up and a link.
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I’ve just been going back and forth between 2 tickets and 1 ticket as a way to refresh. Is this getting people blocked?
That is what I was doing yesterday when they blocked me. I was told I was on too long - whatever that means.
Maybe a dumb question.... but if BOTs are getting all the tickets that randomly drop, no one reporting any wins.. why is everyone wasting their time refreshing? ... I say focus on making deals and finding people who will share the sale link with, plus 1 walk in trades, and account shares.. Im done refreshing... wasted 2 plus days on it already... waiting until I see SHZA post BOOM and screen shot of a ticket win.
Lots of people have scored in F2F...,myself included. But go off I guess.
What have you scored? How far out from show day?
Did you use a link to get it or refresh for hours and beat the bots?
No links here. Just (obsessively) refreshing: GA for San Diego 22 Front row near lowers for Oakland 22 Near lowers for both EV Benaroya shows First row floor behind GA for Seattle 24
It’s not for everyone, but if you have the right personality to make a game out of it, it can be done. You’ll hate yourself a little bit for the amount of time you put in, but at least you’ll have great seats. 😆
I have put too many hours into to know how it works and that the game has changed significantly. As have others that post here.
You will see if you spend any kind of time on it with this tour.
Just to add some more data points here- In ‘23 I was able to get GA on F2F to all of the shows I went to- both St. Paul and both Chicago shows. This year, I was able to get GA on F2F for Vancouver (the only shows I went to on leg one), but on leg two things really changed, I think in large part due to the bots. The only show I was able to get GA to through F2F on leg two was Baltimore. All of my other GAs were through trades or finding people with an extra. I found it was very difficult to even cart GAs for the east coast shows during leg two. Also, I noticed that almost every time a GA pair would appear on F2F, an additional pair would appear on vividseats, seatgeek, etc. within minutes. So I think the scalpers stepped up their game with more advanced bots. And unfortunately, we can’t beat the bots. The game has changed.
I’ve just been going back and forth between 2 tickets and 1 ticket as a way to refresh. Is this getting people blocked?
That is what I was doing yesterday when they blocked me. I was told I was on too long - whatever that means.
Maybe a dumb question.... but if BOTs are getting all the tickets that randomly drop, no one reporting any wins.. why is everyone wasting their time refreshing? ... I say focus on making deals and finding people who will share the sale link with, plus 1 walk in trades, and account shares.. Im done refreshing... wasted 2 plus days on it already... waiting until I see SHZA post BOOM and screen shot of a ticket win.
Lots of people have scored in F2F...,myself included. But go off I guess.
What have you scored? How far out from show day?
Did you use a link to get it or refresh for hours and beat the bots?
No links here. Just (obsessively) refreshing: GA for San Diego 22 Front row near lowers for Oakland 22 Near lowers for both EV Benaroya shows First row floor behind GA for Seattle 24
It’s not for everyone, but if you have the right personality to make a game out of it, it can be done. You’ll hate yourself a little bit for the amount of time you put in, but at least you’ll have great seats. 😆
I have put too many hours into to know how it works and that the game has changed significantly. As have others that post here.
You will see if you spend any kind of time on it with this tour.
Just to add some more data points here- In ‘22 I was able to get GA on F2F to all of the shows I went to- both St. Paul and both Chicago shows. In ‘23, I was able to get GA on F2F for Vancouver (the only shows I went to on leg one), but on leg two things really changed, I think in large part due to the bots. The only show I was able to get GA to through F2F on leg two was Baltimore. All of my other GAs were through trades or finding people with an extra. I found it was very difficult to even cart GAs for the east coast shows during leg two. Also, I noticed that almost every time a GA pair would appear on F2F, an additional pair would appear on vividseats, seatgeek, etc. within minutes. So I think the scalpers stepped up their game with more advanced bots. And unfortunately, we can’t beat the bots. The game has changed.
Agreed. In 2023 I was able to get 3 pairs of GA from F2F. It was really fun with everyone helping each other out. Timed drops worked really well also. 2024 I couldn’t even upgrade my reserved seats and had to rely on friends and trades for my GAs. I think I ended up getting one crappy upper on F2F last year for Philly1. Plus now they are botting us way too often. I understood having to do a Captcha if we were refreshing too fast but to completely block our accounts for days at a time while the bots continue to buy is completely unfair. And to see so many tickets on the secondary markets being sold for hundreds or even thousands of dollars over face, while many of us have our accounts blocked for only trying to buy tickets for ourselves is infuriating.
Anyone want to PM me a link when they are selling Florida 1, I’d be forever grateful and make it worth your while!
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I’ve just been going back and forth between 2 tickets and 1 ticket as a way to refresh. Is this getting people blocked?
That is what I was doing yesterday when they blocked me. I was told I was on too long - whatever that means.
Maybe a dumb question.... but if BOTs are getting all the tickets that randomly drop, no one reporting any wins.. why is everyone wasting their time refreshing? ... I say focus on making deals and finding people who will share the sale link with, plus 1 walk in trades, and account shares.. Im done refreshing... wasted 2 plus days on it already... waiting until I see SHZA post BOOM and screen shot of a ticket win.
Lots of people have scored in F2F...,myself included. But go off I guess.
What have you scored? How far out from show day?
Did you use a link to get it or refresh for hours and beat the bots?
Scored Floor seats to Raleigh N1 based on a link from a poster here. They gave a heads up of specific time, I opened the link and refreshed util it was in my cart. Was able to cart another pair of Raleigh N1 tix through a link here but released them because poster had incorrectly stated they were N2 -- which I'd just gone ahead and bought those too.
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I’ve just been going back and forth between 2 tickets and 1 ticket as a way to refresh. Is this getting people blocked?
That is what I was doing yesterday when they blocked me. I was told I was on too long - whatever that means.
Maybe a dumb question.... but if BOTs are getting all the tickets that randomly drop, no one reporting any wins.. why is everyone wasting their time refreshing? ... I say focus on making deals and finding people who will share the sale link with, plus 1 walk in trades, and account shares.. Im done refreshing... wasted 2 plus days on it already... waiting until I see SHZA post BOOM and screen shot of a ticket win.
Lots of people have scored in F2F...,myself included. But go off I guess.
What have you scored? How far out from show day?
Did you use a link to get it or refresh for hours and beat the bots?
Scored Floor seats to Raleigh N1 based on a link from a poster here. They gave a heads up of specific time, I opened the link and refreshed util it was in my cart. Was able to cart another pair of Raleigh N1 tix through a link here but released them because poster had incorrectly stated they were N2 -- which I'd just gone ahead and bought those too.
Don't you have to click a buy button when refreshing a ticket link ?
I’ve just been going back and forth between 2 tickets and 1 ticket as a way to refresh. Is this getting people blocked?
That is what I was doing yesterday when they blocked me. I was told I was on too long - whatever that means.
Maybe a dumb question.... but if BOTs are getting all the tickets that randomly drop, no one reporting any wins.. why is everyone wasting their time refreshing? ... I say focus on making deals and finding people who will share the sale link with, plus 1 walk in trades, and account shares.. Im done refreshing... wasted 2 plus days on it already... waiting until I see SHZA post BOOM and screen shot of a ticket win.
Lots of people have scored in F2F...,myself included. But go off I guess.
What have you scored? How far out from show day?
Did you use a link to get it or refresh for hours and beat the bots?
Scored Floor seats to Raleigh N1 based on a link from a poster here. They gave a heads up of specific time, I opened the link and refreshed util it was in my cart. Was able to cart another pair of Raleigh N1 tix through a link here but released them because poster had incorrectly stated they were N2 -- which I'd just gone ahead and bought those too.
Don't you have to click a buy button when refreshing a ticket link ?
The way it worked for me was:
1. click the link provided by 10c member as soon as it's posted 2. it will say "tickets are not yet ready" or "available" or something like that. 3. Keep refreshing. 4. Eventually it will either say "sorry these tickets are unavailable" or it will take you directly to the checkout process.
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I’ve just been going back and forth between 2 tickets and 1 ticket as a way to refresh. Is this getting people blocked?
That is what I was doing yesterday when they blocked me. I was told I was on too long - whatever that means.
Maybe a dumb question.... but if BOTs are getting all the tickets that randomly drop, no one reporting any wins.. why is everyone wasting their time refreshing? ... I say focus on making deals and finding people who will share the sale link with, plus 1 walk in trades, and account shares.. Im done refreshing... wasted 2 plus days on it already... waiting until I see SHZA post BOOM and screen shot of a ticket win.
Lots of people have scored in F2F...,myself included. But go off I guess.
What have you scored? How far out from show day?
Did you use a link to get it or refresh for hours and beat the bots?
Scored Floor seats to Raleigh N1 based on a link from a poster here. They gave a heads up of specific time, I opened the link and refreshed util it was in my cart. Was able to cart another pair of Raleigh N1 tix through a link here but released them because poster had incorrectly stated they were N2 -- which I'd just gone ahead and bought those too.
Don't you have to click a buy button when refreshing a ticket link ?
The way it worked for me was:
1. click the link provided by 10c member as soon as it's posted 2. it will say "tickets are not yet ready" or "available" or something like that. 3. Keep refreshing. 4. Eventually it will either say "sorry these tickets are unavailable" or it will take you directly to the checkout process.
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- F2F opened earlier than people were expecting. There just haven’t been many tickets listed so far (anecdotally based on my browsing, compared to when the floodgates opened previously because we were closer to show dates and people knew more definitively that they would not be going).
- Bots are for sure more of a factor than they were when F2F started
- TM is blocking human users more readily and severely than they did previously.
- Fewer shows, East Coast.
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2009-08-28 San Francisco
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2011-07-02 EV Minneapolis
2011-09-03 PJ20
2011-09-04 PJ20
2011-09-17 Winnipeg
2012-06-26 Amsterdam
2012-06-27 Amsterdam
2013-07-19 Wrigley
2013-11-21 San Diego
2013-11-23 Los Angeles
2013-11-24 Los Angeles
2014-07-08 Leeds, UK
2014-07-11 Milton Keynes, UK
2014-10-09 Lincoln
2014-10-19 St. Paul
2014-10-20 Milwaukee
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2016-08-22 Wrigley 2
2018-06-18 London 1
2018-08-18 Wrigley 1
2018-08-20 Wrigley 2
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2023-08-31 St. Paul
2023-09-02 St. Paul
2023-09-05 Chicago 1
2024-08-31 Wrigley 2
2024-09-15 Fenway 1
2024-09-27 Ohana 1
2024-09-29 Ohana 2
I wonder how the bots sort,
I got the 118 for N2.
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2024 Baltimore
2025 Raleigh 1 and 2
1. click the link provided by 10c member as soon as it's posted
2. it will say "tickets are not yet ready" or "available" or something like that.
3. Keep refreshing.
4. Eventually it will either say "sorry these tickets are unavailable" or it will take you directly to the checkout process.
1998 Raleigh
2000 Virginia Beach
2003 Raleigh
2016 Raleigh Thanks HB2
2016 Columbia
2020 Baltimore Thanks COVID
2022 Baltimore The only original COVID venue not rescheduled (due to construction) :(
2022 Denver
2024 Baltimore
2025 Raleigh 1 and 2