In jail, how long will it take to get out? 24 hours? A bit of rest feels nice for a sunday can’t lie about that..
Not sure. I was put in TM jail around 8:00pm Friday night and still serving time. One of my friends has been in even longer.
Jesus christ i feel stupid. Didn’t had any problems till i just faked a order for a $900+ to check what the next steps are for íf i was lucky. Canceled and got right into jail haha, damn.
In jail, how long will it take to get out? 24 hours? A bit of rest feels nice for a sunday can’t lie about that..
I’m well over 48 hours and counting, starting to wonder if this is permanent…
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In jail, how long will it take to get out? 24 hours? A bit of rest feels nice for a sunday can’t lie about that..
I’m well over 48 hours and counting, starting to wonder if this is permanent…
That’s ridiculous. Man I know I sound like a broken record , but bring back the secondary market. This has to be way worse then spending some extra money
In jail, how long will it take to get out? 24 hours? A bit of rest feels nice for a sunday can’t lie about that..
I’m well over 48 hours and counting, starting to wonder if this is permanent…
That’s ridiculous. Man I know I sound like a broken record , but bring back the secondary market. This has to be way worse then spending some extra money
I don’t disagree, however, it’s 4-5 months before the shows and F2F has been open for a few days. Is it the lack of secondary market, or people obsessive over F2F? I think the latter 🙃 Would prices on the secondary market still be as high as they are now? Maybe yes maybe no. The argument for no is the transfer restriction. Either way, F2F or secondary market, I wait until the week of show to get the best deal. Post-Covid the majority of concerts or sporting events I’ve attended, I’ve gotten within 48 hours of the event…especially sports.
Personally, 2022 and 2023 I was pretty obsessive every day until day of show because it was easier. This past year I really didn’t refresh for hours a day until the week of show because of the bots. Paid more attention to this forum for tickets. For the 2025 shows, I really could care less. I have GA for a few, and my reserves are good enough if I don’t upgrade…but I have 342xxx, others with higher numbers may have more motivation. I am searching for PIT2 but I’m not stressing on F2F.
This would all be resolved if 10c tickets could be transferred to other 10c members via TM. This should be the only form of transferability. Also, I think the reason we can’t sell for less than face is because let’s say I get an upper ticket for $90 when face was $175…I could technically resell it for $125 and take a profit (before fees).
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I'm watching this forum like a hawk. So far it got me one upgrade and I'm hoping for more (gotta get out of the 200s for Raleigh N1). The absolute best result for me (which would also demonstrate the effectiveness of F2F) would be if I manage to upgrade to GA somewhere between the two Raleigh & Pitts N2.
In jail, how long will it take to get out? 24 hours? A bit of rest feels nice for a sunday can’t lie about that..
I’m well over 48 hours and counting, starting to wonder if this is permanent…
That’s ridiculous. Man I know I sound like a broken record , but bring back the secondary market. This has to be way worse then spending some extra money
I’ve been pleading that on here for awhile now too. If 10C is going to outsource the lottery and all other aspects of the ticketing process, then just make all tickets fully transferable
Fan to Fan is significantly more harmful than helpful. And I get the argument that some people make about “people will put in for shows they don’t want to trade” but at this point, who cares? Half the people here went 0/xx anyway. It’s already happening. And it’s not like Pearl Jam is selling $79 tickets. Their face value is quite close to secondary market for most locations they play. So in summary, Fan to Fan is nonsense. Make all tickets fully transferable.
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Here’s a question about StubHub… which I haven’t used for Pearl Jam in a long time “To gain access to the event, you need to be accompanied by the original buyer of tickets.” How true is this? Has anyone had experience with this?
I was locked out on all devices for over 3 weeks before the tour started. Most of November.
I emailed their support and they recommended all things I’d tried (which you can easily find with a quick Google search). Nothing worked.
After a week of back and forth my account did open back up. No idea why.
Anecdotally I traveled across the country and it worked when I arrived at my destination and has worked since that point. Not sure if that’s coincidence or it had something to do with my phone’s location services (but again, I tried computers and multiple devices with no luck).
Going on 2 weeks of regular use with no issue. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Here’s a question about StubHub… which I haven’t used for Pearl Jam in a long time “To gain access to the event, you need to be accompanied by the original buyer of tickets.” How true is this? Has anyone had experience with this?
Not very true. The tickets are never transfered. They host the reverse engineered bar code on a live website and send you a link. You pull up the website, scan at the gate and go. I'm sure that wording is to cover their butts but it's neither practical or abided by.
Here’s a question about StubHub… which I haven’t used for Pearl Jam in a long time “To gain access to the event, you need to be accompanied by the original buyer of tickets.” How true is this? Has anyone had experience with this?
Not very true. The tickets are never transfered. They host the reverse engineered bar code on a live website and send you a link. You pull up the website, scan at the gate and go. I'm sure that wording is to cover their butts but it's neither practical or abided by.
Thank you! I got shut out for both Pitt 1 & 2… worst case scenario I will use StubHub, but not pulling the trigger anytime soon.
My best friend who lives on the other side of the world (and refuses to visit the US) & I made a bet just now.
I'm saying that ticket prices incl premium will drop the closer we get to the show. He says they'll go up especially since people are willing to buy premium. If I win he'll come visit me. If I lose I must go travel with him in Nepal.
It's kind of a tough bet to define who won or lost without some clear measure. Premium will disappear at some point, which could mean they all sold. Any that are left could be more expensive because they hold back the best seats, but will probably be cheaper than what's available currently. Standard ticket prices will not drop on TM. They probably would on secondary sites. Maybe not for Florida.
It's kind of a tough bet to define who won or lost without some clear measure. Premium will disappear at some point, which could mean they all sold. Any that are left could be more expensive because they hold back the best seats, but will probably be cheaper than what's available currently. Standard ticket prices will not drop on TM. They probably would on secondary sites. Maybe not for Florida.
Bleak.
Other the fun bet, I have friends who want to go and I keep telling them to wait. Am I wrong?
Putting Raleigh N1 105 and N2 118 on F2F - having issues with TM site
Any way you could DM me the links?
Yes, still trying to sell, not taking the code
If you are still having issues with the Code loop, try using the TM app on your mobile phone (and maybe use data instead of Wifi if it doesn't work on WiFi). That is the way I got past the endless Code loop.
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I've also been in jail for over 48 hours at this point, and based on past experiences I'm not expecting to be out any time soon.
I think what's most frustrating is that there are some really clear passive criteria TM could use to identify who is and isn't actually a bot/scalper. My TM account has probably purchased hundreds of tickets in the past years, and 90+% of them have been used without being sold or transferred. The few that have been sold (even ignoring F2F after upgrades) have been sold at roughly face value literally every time. In what universe is that behavior consistent with scalping or trying to game their system?
Even ignoring the idea of using sensible logic, they could have an appeals process with a whitelist at the IP level, account level, device ID level, anything. But they don't have formal processes for any of that. If you get lucky with CS, you might find somebody who's willing to help you. Otherwise you get a useless generic response.
The whole 'blocking' charade is optics over utility, just so they can project that they're doing something. They have no incentive to do more than that.
I got super lucky and was able to get tix for 7 of 10 shows. I was expecting 1 or 2. I really wanted FL because that's where I live, but I didn't get those. So looking at my family's schedules and finances, I'm going to start listing some shows F2F. First up will be Pitt1 GA and Pitt2 111. This is so painful. I'll post the links as soon as I have them. Definitely want another true fan to get them!
I got super lucky and was able to get tix for 7 of 10 shows. I was expecting 1 or 2. I really wanted FL because that's where I live, but I didn't get those. So looking at my family's schedules and finances, I'm going to start listing some shows F2F. First up will be Pitt1 GA and Pitt2 111. This is so painful. I'll post the links as soon as I have them. Definitely want another true fan to get them!
I got super lucky and was able to get tix for 7 of 10 shows. I was expecting 1 or 2. I really wanted FL because that's where I live, but I didn't get those. So looking at my family's schedules and finances, I'm going to start listing some shows F2F. First up will be Pitt1 GA and Pitt2 111. This is so painful. I'll post the links as soon as I have them. Definitely want another true fan to get them!
I got super lucky and was able to get tix for 7 of 10 shows. I was expecting 1 or 2. I really wanted FL because that's where I live, but I didn't get those. So looking at my family's schedules and finances, I'm going to start listing some shows F2F. First up will be Pitt1 GA and Pitt2 111. This is so painful. I'll post the links as soon as I have them. Definitely want another true fan to get them!
I got super lucky and was able to get tix for 7 of 10 shows. I was expecting 1 or 2. I really wanted FL because that's where I live, but I didn't get those. So looking at my family's schedules and finances, I'm going to start listing some shows F2F. First up will be Pitt1 GA and Pitt2 111. This is so painful. I'll post the links as soon as I have them. Definitely want another true fan to get them!
Do you have Raleigh?
I do, but I'm still trying to figure out what show(s) I can attend.
I got super lucky and was able to get tix for 7 of 10 shows. I was expecting 1 or 2. I really wanted FL because that's where I live, but I didn't get those. So looking at my family's schedules and finances, I'm going to start listing some shows F2F. First up will be Pitt1 GA and Pitt2 111. This is so painful. I'll post the links as soon as I have them. Definitely want another true fan to get them!
Do you have Raleigh?
I do, but I'm still trying to figure out what show(s) I can attend.
I got super lucky and was able to get tix for 7 of 10 shows. I was expecting 1 or 2. I really wanted FL because that's where I live, but I didn't get those. So looking at my family's schedules and finances, I'm going to start listing some shows F2F. First up will be Pitt1 GA and Pitt2 111. This is so painful. I'll post the links as soon as I have them. Definitely want another true fan to get them!
Do you have Raleigh?
I do, but I'm still trying to figure out what show(s) I can attend.
@laylagrll can we set up a timed drop for Pitt one? Thanks
I got super lucky and was able to get tix for 7 of 10 shows. I was expecting 1 or 2. I really wanted FL because that's where I live, but I didn't get those. So looking at my family's schedules and finances, I'm going to start listing some shows F2F. First up will be Pitt1 GA and Pitt2 111. This is so painful. I'll post the links as soon as I have them. Definitely want another true fan to get them!
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Didn’t had any problems till i just faked a order for a $900+ to check what the next steps are for íf i was lucky. Canceled and got right into jail haha, damn.
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
Would prices on the secondary market still be as high as they are now? Maybe yes maybe no. The argument for no is the transfer restriction. Either way, F2F or secondary market, I wait until the week of show to get the best deal. Post-Covid the majority of concerts or sporting events I’ve attended, I’ve gotten within 48 hours of the event…especially sports.
bit strange.
The absolute best result for me (which would also demonstrate the effectiveness of F2F) would be if I manage to upgrade to GA somewhere between the two Raleigh & Pitts N2.
I believe in miracles.
Fan to Fan is significantly more harmful than helpful. And I get the argument that some people make about “people will put in for shows they don’t want to trade” but at this point, who cares? Half the people here went 0/xx anyway. It’s already happening. And it’s not like Pearl Jam is selling $79 tickets. Their face value is quite close to secondary market for most locations they play. So in summary, Fan to Fan is nonsense. Make all tickets fully transferable.
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
Not very true. The tickets are never transfered. They host the reverse engineered bar code on a live website and send you a link. You pull up the website, scan at the gate and go. I'm sure that wording is to cover their butts but it's neither practical or abided by.
I'm saying that ticket prices incl premium will drop the closer we get to the show.
He says they'll go up especially since people are willing to buy premium.
If I win he'll come visit me.
If I lose I must go travel with him in Nepal.
What are the chances I win?
Other the fun bet, I have friends who want to go and I keep telling them to wait. Am I wrong?
2013: LA 1 & LA 2, Vancouver
2018: Seattle 1 & Seattle 2
2022: LA 1 & LA 2
2024: Vancouver 1 & Vancouver 2, Portland, Seattle 1 & Seattle 2
I think what's most frustrating is that there are some really clear passive criteria TM could use to identify who is and isn't actually a bot/scalper. My TM account has probably purchased hundreds of tickets in the past years, and 90+% of them have been used without being sold or transferred. The few that have been sold (even ignoring F2F after upgrades) have been sold at roughly face value literally every time. In what universe is that behavior consistent with scalping or trying to game their system?
Even ignoring the idea of using sensible logic, they could have an appeals process with a whitelist at the IP level, account level, device ID level, anything. But they don't have formal processes for any of that. If you get lucky with CS, you might find somebody who's willing to help you. Otherwise you get a useless generic response.
The whole 'blocking' charade is optics over utility, just so they can project that they're doing something. They have no incentive to do more than that.
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