Same folks up front

Go Animal

pjl44 said:

Go Animal said:

pjl44 said:

Jokes aside, you have to self-police otherwise you do get lumped into the bad behavior, rightly or wrongly

I also get why they don't! Confrontation sucks. Especially when it involves your favorite band. Anxiety goes through the roof.

All things considered, even with all this drama, we're still more cordial with each other than Bruce fans (I would also say DMB, but I haven't been to one of their pits in years).

One thing's for certain: we're ALL nicer to each other than 311 fans 😤

Lemme tell ya...you would be shocked how many 311 shows I've been to and that crowd is too baked to notice anyone else is there

I was just pokin' fun 😁  311 shows are EXACTLY as you described them.

Go Animal

Go Animal said:

pjl44 said:

Go Animal said:

pjl44 said:

Jokes aside, you have to self-police otherwise you do get lumped into the bad behavior, rightly or wrongly

I also get why they don't! Confrontation sucks. Especially when it involves your favorite band. Anxiety goes through the roof.

All things considered, even with all this drama, we're still more cordial with each other than Bruce fans (I would also say DMB, but I haven't been to one of their pits in years).

One thing's for certain: we're ALL nicer to each other than 311 fans 😤

Lemme tell ya...you would be shocked how many 311 shows I've been to and that crowd is too baked to notice anyone else is there

I was just pokin' fun 😁  311 shows are EXACTLY as you described them.

Evolver tour FTW 🙌

bootlegger10

No holding spots for plus ones.  Hell no.   Put the time in.  If your friend or partner can’t wait with you, then either go solo up front or arrive with your friend.   

pjl44

Go Animal said:

pjl44 said:

Go Animal said:

pjl44 said:

Jokes aside, you have to self-police otherwise you do get lumped into the bad behavior, rightly or wrongly

I also get why they don't! Confrontation sucks. Especially when it involves your favorite band. Anxiety goes through the roof.

All things considered, even with all this drama, we're still more cordial with each other than Bruce fans (I would also say DMB, but I haven't been to one of their pits in years).

One thing's for certain: we're ALL nicer to each other than 311 fans 😤

Lemme tell ya...you would be shocked how many 311 shows I've been to and that crowd is too baked to notice anyone else is there

I was just pokin' fun 😁  311 shows are EXACTLY as you described them.

Now if by "being nicer" you're saying they could "put on some deodorant"....

Chrrie

GlowGirl said:

Chrrie said:

Go Animal said:

P.P.S. I have no quarrel with you @Chrrie or with anyone down in the pit. I'm just pointing out things I've seen (and participated in) firsthand. Again, I've made peace with it, but anyone down there still doing it the way it's been done for years should just be honest about it.

If you're not one of them, then none of that is on you. Keep going to every show you can, have a great time & may the fates bless us all. Hell, may you get a Stone, or Jeff pick.

Maybe come and say hi the next time you’re in or near the GA line. Anyone come and say hi. I’m usually in something Buffalo Bills related and often have things I make to hand out to the PJ community. 

I thought that was you. You are awesome!! And, I agree with everything you have been saying. I have had so much fun camping out. I have met some incredible people like you. To me, it is part of the whole experience. Hope to see you on the rail this tour as well.

Good luck with the lottery! Can’t wait to see you again!

cutz

spankyMP said:

Chrrie said:

spankyMP said:

Bottom line is, the majority of fans and the BAND would love more variety up front. That said, I'm good five people deep in front of Mike after pre-gaming on my own schedule and strolling in about 30 minutes before showtime.

I don’t think the band has indicated this anywhere but any fan is welcome to line up for GA as its first come first serve. My first GA was San Diego 22 and I didn’t know anyone and just got in line. It was really that simple, no one made me feel unwelcome because I was new. 

They literally implemented the 1,2, 9,10 random rule for this purpose and then went back to GA, come on man.

How about they go back to this? It doesn't have to be for every tour.

How about making the first 5 rows a Lottery? or 10 rows?

SVRDhand13

How about they just keep GA but keep track of who wins and not allow multiple winners over a certain amount of time?

I'm 0 for about 20 in trying to get GA (Northeast I understand the odds are slim) 

100 Pacer

Chrrie said:

Go Animal said:

P.P.S. I have no quarrel with you @Chrrie or with anyone down in the pit. I'm just pointing out things I've seen (and participated in) firsthand. Again, I've made peace with it, but anyone down there still doing it the way it's been done for years should just be honest about it.

If you're not one of them, then none of that is on you. Keep going to every show you can, have a great time & may the fates bless us all. Hell, may you get a Stone, or Jeff pick.

Maybe come and say hi the next time you’re in or near the GA line. Anyone come and say hi. I’m usually in something Buffalo Bills related and often have things I make to hand out to the PJ community. 

@Chrrie is one of the finest humans that travels to see PJ. She’s extremely mindful of the community, very respectful towards her fellow fans, and has established herself as a selfless member of said community. She’s a good egg.

Go Animal

100 Pacer said:

Chrrie said:

Go Animal said:

P.P.S. I have no quarrel with you @Chrrie or with anyone down in the pit. I'm just pointing out things I've seen (and participated in) firsthand. Again, I've made peace with it, but anyone down there still doing it the way it's been done for years should just be honest about it.

If you're not one of them, then none of that is on you. Keep going to every show you can, have a great time & may the fates bless us all. Hell, may you get a Stone, or Jeff pick.

Maybe come and say hi the next time you’re in or near the GA line. Anyone come and say hi. I’m usually in something Buffalo Bills related and often have things I make to hand out to the PJ community. 

@Chrrie is one of the finest humans that travels to see PJ. She’s extremely mindful of the community, very respectful towards her fellow fans, and has established herself as a selfless member of said community. She’s a good egg.

A sound endorsement 👍

BF25394

bootlegger10 said:

No holding spots for plus ones.  Hell no.   Put the time in.  If your friend or partner can’t wait with you, then either go solo up front or arrive with your friend.   

This is unreasonable.

bootlegger10

BF25394 said:

bootlegger10 said:

No holding spots for plus ones.  Hell no.   Put the time in.  If your friend or partner can’t wait with you, then either go solo up front or arrive with your friend.   

This is unreasonable.

Why?

BF25394

bootlegger10 said:

BF25394 said:

bootlegger10 said:

No holding spots for plus ones.  Hell no.   Put the time in.  If your friend or partner can’t wait with you, then either go solo up front or arrive with your friend.   

This is unreasonable.

Why?

Because someone who pays for a pair of tickets and invites a friend should be able to wait in line for that friend. It is unreasonable that a person who is willing and able to get in line early should be barred from doing so because their friend can't come until later. Again, don't abuse it, but a person queueing up for their actual plus-one seems perfectly appropriate.

Do you think that someone who arrives early to a movie should not be allowed to enter the theater and claim a seat for himself and for a friend who cannot arrive as early?

Loujoe

reedrothchild

If people want to be up front more power to them- they dedicate a lot of time in hopes for a tambourine or guitar pic and a chance to get a drop of Eddie and Stone’s sweet on them.  

I am shocked that people do it every show though- it’s a fun experience once or twice but seeing every show from there is weird to me.
The sound is subpar at best and you do not get to experience the full light show.

The camaraderie aspect I can see, but for me after seeing shows for 25 years I’d much rather meet up with PJ friends at a cool local bar/brewery in a place I’ve never been (or rarely been) where there will inevitably be other like minded music fans as well, rather than spending 8 hours in line to be close to a bunch of dudes in their 50’s/60’s.

Loujoe

What's wrong with dudes in their 50s? Asking for a friend

spankyMP

cutz said:

spankyMP said:

Chrrie said:

spankyMP said:

Bottom line is, the majority of fans and the BAND would love more variety up front. That said, I'm good five people deep in front of Mike after pre-gaming on my own schedule and strolling in about 30 minutes before showtime.

I don’t think the band has indicated this anywhere but any fan is welcome to line up for GA as its first come first serve. My first GA was San Diego 22 and I didn’t know anyone and just got in line. It was really that simple, no one made me feel unwelcome because I was new. 

They literally implemented the 1,2, 9,10 random rule for this purpose and then went back to GA, come on man.

How about they go back to this? It doesn't have to be for every tour.

How about making the first 5 rows a Lottery? or 10 rows?

I'm good with that. I'm also good with the GA lottery, but as much as I would love to be on the rail one time, I am not going to camp out

spankyMP

Loujoe said:

What's wrong with dudes in their 50s? Asking for a friend

I'll tell you in 18 months.

Lost In Ohio

BF25394 said:

bootlegger10 said:

BF25394 said:

bootlegger10 said:

No holding spots for plus ones.  Hell no.   Put the time in.  If your friend or partner can’t wait with you, then either go solo up front or arrive with your friend.   

This is unreasonable.

Why?

Because someone who pays for a pair of tickets and invites a friend should be able to wait in line for that friend. It is unreasonable that a person who is willing and able to get in line early should be barred from doing so because their friend can't come until later. Again, don't abuse it, but a person queueing up for their actual plus-one seems perfectly appropriate.

Do you think that someone who arrives early to a movie should not be allowed to enter the theater and claim a seat for himself and for a friend who cannot arrive as early?

They're also not showing up for a movie more than an hour or two in advance unless it's a big hit. You can also see that same movie a few days later and get the same exact experience.

The problem being that someone could be 75 in line...or so they think. Now they're 150 in line.

What could be two people back is four people back.  If they're four people back because 2x as many people are having spots held, what's the point of showing up at 8am when they could have been there at 4pm?

I do like the DMB system. Have a random fan pull a number. The person who's number matches that is first all the way to the highest. #1 is after the highest. (Say there's 200 people in line. #171 is drawn. They're first. #1 is after #200 and then #170 is last.)

You must enter this with your #1. If they're not there, they can enter with public doors.

And whoever mentioned Let's Play Two and the guy being there four days earlier...that's accurate, but he had a personal reason (no tambo, wine, etc) and it's also one hell of an outlier to be there more than 24 hours before on-stage time.

Loujoe

spankyMP said:

Loujoe said:

What's wrong with dudes in their 50s? Asking for a friend

I'll tell you in 18 months.

Ah sh.t. I know what's wrong with them. Lol. Take care

reedrothchild

Loujoe said:

What's wrong with dudes in their 50s? Asking for a friend

lol I’ll be there soon too 😂