Same folks up front

2-feign-reluctance

MayDay10 said:

So let's say that the band announces a show in my home city.  I get GA tickets, got time off work and going and want to go for the front of the line.

What do I do?  How do I know where to go?  How will these people know to get in line behind me if I am the first person there?  Is there like a social media group of a text chain where these things are planned?

Contact@Chrrie she claims she can make it happen if you want to 

Huskers20

I was on the rail Saturday night for Corduroy of Chicago....in west suburbs, good show:)

DP13

RatherStarved said:

 Life happens sometimes.  

Agreed, and 10c would get absolutely dragged on this forum when they wouldn't refund the sob stories.

But what we get now is everyone putting in for every show they might want to attend.  Then their +1 doing exactly the same.  And the most dedicated of fans using several accounts putting in for every show hoping to hit GAs they can trade for GAs to the shows they actually plan to attend. 

The free transfer/selling policy creates scarcity that doesn't exist.

This policy causes dedicated fans hours and hours of misery attempting to grab tickets via resale.

This policy causes people to panic and buy PJ Premium, which has led to folks being upset online with pricing.

I'd love to see what % of 10c tickets are resold, I think it is very high. 

I'm telling you, I think taking away the ability to resell would make everyone's life so much easier and even if we all had to eat a pair of tickets every few years it would still end up saving us money in the long run.  

Chrrie

MayDay10 said:

So let's say that the band announces a show in my home city.  I get GA tickets, got time off work and going and want to go for the front of the line.

What do I do?  How do I know where to go?  How will these people know to get in line behind me if I am the first person there?  Is there like a social media group of a text chain where these things are planned?

When I did GA for the first time in San Diego in 2022 and knew barely anyone in the PJ community, I went to the venue the night before the show, walked around and easily found the line of 20 or so people who had already started to queue. It's basically the same thing now, just show up and 9/10 times you will see the line. There was one notable exception and that is Raleigh this year where the camping spot was on the other side of the property, and the location was posted on the PJ Raleigh Facebook group. Venue security also directed anyone who wandered around looking for us where to go. I have also had plenty of people DM me and give me their contact info and I am always happy to help keep everyone in the loop. 

For Pitt, the GA camping location was included in the Ten Club email that was sent out to ticket holders, although even if you didn't get the email you could see the line from the venue. I think this was done because two GA lines were formed after Raleigh N1 with the majority of people lining up outside the GA entrance before walking over to the camping spot. When we got there, there were three people already in line. A couple of the people from the larger line tried to integrate the three people based on how early they got there as the first two in the larger line, non-regulars (I had never met them before) didn't go to N1. One of the three people left and came back the next day and joined the end of the line, and I told PJ security what happened and they put the other two people who stayed (also non-regulars although I knew them from St. Paul) in front saying the camping location was the "official" line. That was cool because the first 5 people to go in Raleigh N2 either haven't or rarely do GA and they managed to figure it out. 

When PJ plays a venue they haven't played before, I often look up where the camping line was for other artists which I find on those band's subreddits or Facebook groups. Paramore, 21 pilots, Billie Eilish and Jonas Brothers are usually who I start with. I am friends with the people who usually start the PJ line now and this gives us a good idea of where to go. I also just go to the venue and ask their security where other people camped and they're usually happy to tell me. 

Loujoe

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sHNBxd4LnDs&pp=0gcJCdgAo7VqN5tD

Chrrie

PJ_Soul said:

bbiggs said:

Such odd behavior for 50 somethings to engage in, but to each their own.  I mean, you can still get Eddie's sweat flung at you in the second row, along with a cool selfie, and avoid all the school age bickering.

I'm starting to think that at this point these aging crazies are almost more in it to have something to lean on, lol. I wonder if the band will last long enough for us to be able to watch them be physically unable to stand for the whole show... Are walkers allowed in GA?

I think this is probably a fair take personally haha. I'm not married and don't have kids and while that wasn't necessarily what I envisioned for me, the music and the friends I've made because of PJ have brought a substantial amount of meaning to my life. GA camping or not I suspect a lot of people can relate to that. 

That said a ton of people who do camp or line up for more than 12 hours have families/children and way more career or financial responsibilities than I do. There are multiple people who are PhD college professors, people in the entertainment industry, medical doctors, commercial airline pilots (which I imagine helps with the travel costs!) there's even someone who's a state AG lol. I don't say this to be like oh look at them how special but rather offer the perspective that we're not all degenerates with no life, but rather just a group of like-minded self-proclaimed crazies that are very aware we don't have a lot of years left to do this so why not go all out now. Many people weren't able to go to a lot of PJ shows in the 90s/00s and are probably somewhat making up for lost time. Again there's a lot of people here who go to every show or the majority of shows on the tour who don't camp or even do GA with a similar mindset. And I mean, everyone here cares more than the average fan as we are on the fan club message board in the offseason with nothing else to do than talk about the band we all love and speculate when there may be more shows for us to go to. Also I'll mention again that the majority of overnight campers this tour didn't do it for every show. No one went to all 11, only 4 went to 10/11, and the rest were between 1-3 cities. I saw more new faces this time than I have in the 4 tours I've participated, a couple of who commented here and agreed that we're not all clowns. Although I admit there are GA people (both who camp and don't camp) I choose to spend less time around -- the scalper included. 

Bentleyspop

Looks like even mrtsurt is aware...

julieooliern

Bentleyspop said:

Looks like even mrtsurt is aware...

Hahahaha I saw that on IG

Poncier

Is that Toonces driving?

Loujoe

3am is not early enough!

Gern Blansten

Chrrie said:

PJ_Soul said:

bbiggs said:

Such odd behavior for 50 somethings to engage in, but to each their own.  I mean, you can still get Eddie's sweat flung at you in the second row, along with a cool selfie, and avoid all the school age bickering.

I'm starting to think that at this point these aging crazies are almost more in it to have something to lean on, lol. I wonder if the band will last long enough for us to be able to watch them be physically unable to stand for the whole show... Are walkers allowed in GA?

I think this is probably a fair take personally haha. I'm not married and don't have kids and while that wasn't necessarily what I envisioned for me, the music and the friends I've made because of PJ have brought a substantial amount of meaning to my life. GA camping or not I suspect a lot of people can relate to that. 

That said a ton of people who do camp or line up for more than 12 hours have families/children and way more career or financial responsibilities than I do. There are multiple people who are PhD college professors, people in the entertainment industry, medical doctors, commercial airline pilots (which I imagine helps with the travel costs!) there's even someone who's a state AG lol. I don't say this to be like oh look at them how special but rather offer the perspective that we're not all degenerates with no life, but rather just a group of like-minded self-proclaimed crazies that are very aware we don't have a lot of years left to do this so why not go all out now. Many people weren't able to go to a lot of PJ shows in the 90s/00s and are probably somewhat making up for lost time. Again there's a lot of people here who go to every show or the majority of shows on the tour who don't camp or even do GA with a similar mindset. And I mean, everyone here cares more than the average fan as we are on the fan club message board in the offseason with nothing else to do than talk about the band we all love and speculate when there may be more shows for us to go to. Also I'll mention again that the majority of overnight campers this tour didn't do it for every show. No one went to all 11, only 4 went to 10/11, and the rest were between 1-3 cities. I saw more new faces this time than I have in the 4 tours I've participated, a couple of who commented here and agreed that we're not all clowns. Although I admit there are GA people (both who camp and don't camp) I choose to spend less time around -- the scalper included. 

reminds me of a few years ago where they were starting shows sitting for a few songs....never did figure that out

demetrios

Loujoe said:

3am is not early enough!

Nope, it isn't. Especially for us merch folks. 

cincybearcat

Gern Blansten said:

Chrrie said:

PJ_Soul said:

bbiggs said:

Such odd behavior for 50 somethings to engage in, but to each their own.  I mean, you can still get Eddie's sweat flung at you in the second row, along with a cool selfie, and avoid all the school age bickering.

I'm starting to think that at this point these aging crazies are almost more in it to have something to lean on, lol. I wonder if the band will last long enough for us to be able to watch them be physically unable to stand for the whole show... Are walkers allowed in GA?

I think this is probably a fair take personally haha. I'm not married and don't have kids and while that wasn't necessarily what I envisioned for me, the music and the friends I've made because of PJ have brought a substantial amount of meaning to my life. GA camping or not I suspect a lot of people can relate to that. 

That said a ton of people who do camp or line up for more than 12 hours have families/children and way more career or financial responsibilities than I do. There are multiple people who are PhD college professors, people in the entertainment industry, medical doctors, commercial airline pilots (which I imagine helps with the travel costs!) there's even someone who's a state AG lol. I don't say this to be like oh look at them how special but rather offer the perspective that we're not all degenerates with no life, but rather just a group of like-minded self-proclaimed crazies that are very aware we don't have a lot of years left to do this so why not go all out now. Many people weren't able to go to a lot of PJ shows in the 90s/00s and are probably somewhat making up for lost time. Again there's a lot of people here who go to every show or the majority of shows on the tour who don't camp or even do GA with a similar mindset. And I mean, everyone here cares more than the average fan as we are on the fan club message board in the offseason with nothing else to do than talk about the band we all love and speculate when there may be more shows for us to go to. Also I'll mention again that the majority of overnight campers this tour didn't do it for every show. No one went to all 11, only 4 went to 10/11, and the rest were between 1-3 cities. I saw more new faces this time than I have in the 4 tours I've participated, a couple of who commented here and agreed that we're not all clowns. Although I admit there are GA people (both who camp and don't camp) I choose to spend less time around -- the scalper included. 

reminds me of a few years ago where they were starting shows sitting for a few songs....never did figure that out

I actually grew to kinda like that format.  Was nice to hear some of those songs in that setting...as long as they picked the right song for the transition.  It actually made me enjoy hearing black again...which I know sounds terrible...but I had gotten to the point where it was just a set energy killer for me.  But when they did it seated, for some reason it felt new and interesting again...to me at least.

on2legs

cincybearcat said:

Gern Blansten said:

Chrrie said:

PJ_Soul said:

bbiggs said:

Such odd behavior for 50 somethings to engage in, but to each their own.  I mean, you can still get Eddie's sweat flung at you in the second row, along with a cool selfie, and avoid all the school age bickering.

I'm starting to think that at this point these aging crazies are almost more in it to have something to lean on, lol. I wonder if the band will last long enough for us to be able to watch them be physically unable to stand for the whole show... Are walkers allowed in GA?

I think this is probably a fair take personally haha. I'm not married and don't have kids and while that wasn't necessarily what I envisioned for me, the music and the friends I've made because of PJ have brought a substantial amount of meaning to my life. GA camping or not I suspect a lot of people can relate to that. 

That said a ton of people who do camp or line up for more than 12 hours have families/children and way more career or financial responsibilities than I do. There are multiple people who are PhD college professors, people in the entertainment industry, medical doctors, commercial airline pilots (which I imagine helps with the travel costs!) there's even someone who's a state AG lol. I don't say this to be like oh look at them how special but rather offer the perspective that we're not all degenerates with no life, but rather just a group of like-minded self-proclaimed crazies that are very aware we don't have a lot of years left to do this so why not go all out now. Many people weren't able to go to a lot of PJ shows in the 90s/00s and are probably somewhat making up for lost time. Again there's a lot of people here who go to every show or the majority of shows on the tour who don't camp or even do GA with a similar mindset. And I mean, everyone here cares more than the average fan as we are on the fan club message board in the offseason with nothing else to do than talk about the band we all love and speculate when there may be more shows for us to go to. Also I'll mention again that the majority of overnight campers this tour didn't do it for every show. No one went to all 11, only 4 went to 10/11, and the rest were between 1-3 cities. I saw more new faces this time than I have in the 4 tours I've participated, a couple of who commented here and agreed that we're not all clowns. Although I admit there are GA people (both who camp and don't camp) I choose to spend less time around -- the scalper included. 

reminds me of a few years ago where they were starting shows sitting for a few songs....never did figure that out

I actually grew to kinda like that format.  Was nice to hear some of those songs in that setting...as long as they picked the right song for the transition.  It actually made me enjoy hearing black again...which I know sounds terrible...but I had gotten to the point where it was just a set energy killer for me.  But when they did it seated, for some reason it felt new and interesting again...to me at least.

cincybearcat said:

Gern Blansten said:

Chrrie said:

PJ_Soul said:

bbiggs said:

Such odd behavior for 50 somethings to engage in, but to each their own.  I mean, you can still get Eddie's sweat flung at you in the second row, along with a cool selfie, and avoid all the school age bickering.

I'm starting to think that at this point these aging crazies are almost more in it to have something to lean on, lol. I wonder if the band will last long enough for us to be able to watch them be physically unable to stand for the whole show... Are walkers allowed in GA?

I think this is probably a fair take personally haha. I'm not married and don't have kids and while that wasn't necessarily what I envisioned for me, the music and the friends I've made because of PJ have brought a substantial amount of meaning to my life. GA camping or not I suspect a lot of people can relate to that. 

That said a ton of people who do camp or line up for more than 12 hours have families/children and way more career or financial responsibilities than I do. There are multiple people who are PhD college professors, people in the entertainment industry, medical doctors, commercial airline pilots (which I imagine helps with the travel costs!) there's even someone who's a state AG lol. I don't say this to be like oh look at them how special but rather offer the perspective that we're not all degenerates with no life, but rather just a group of like-minded self-proclaimed crazies that are very aware we don't have a lot of years left to do this so why not go all out now. Many people weren't able to go to a lot of PJ shows in the 90s/00s and are probably somewhat making up for lost time. Again there's a lot of people here who go to every show or the majority of shows on the tour who don't camp or even do GA with a similar mindset. And I mean, everyone here cares more than the average fan as we are on the fan club message board in the offseason with nothing else to do than talk about the band we all love and speculate when there may be more shows for us to go to. Also I'll mention again that the majority of overnight campers this tour didn't do it for every show. No one went to all 11, only 4 went to 10/11, and the rest were between 1-3 cities. I saw more new faces this time than I have in the 4 tours I've participated, a couple of who commented here and agreed that we're not all clowns. Although I admit there are GA people (both who camp and don't camp) I choose to spend less time around -- the scalper included. 

reminds me of a few years ago where they were starting shows sitting for a few songs....never did figure that out

I actually grew to kinda like that format.  Was nice to hear some of those songs in that setting...as long as they picked the right song for the transition.  It actually made me enjoy hearing black again...which I know sounds terrible...but I had gotten to the point where it was just a set energy killer for me.  But when they did it seated, for some reason it felt new and interesting again...to me at least.

I’m on the same page.  It was a cool change up.  

reedrothchild

Agreed on the acoustic opening songs format. Also an extra bump because this is my favorite thread going right now 😀