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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,948
    Chrrie said:
    pjl44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Chrrie said:
    Also for those who missed what Ed said in Pitt:

    ”The dedication so many folks have shown. There’s signs - 101 shows. 39 shows. Just a lotta nice nice things. For all the people that see multiple shows and keep us on our toes. And we got the light on the front row here. Thank you. We’re gonna miss you. More importantly we know you’re gonna miss each other.  Be safe. And be good until we see you again.”
    There are many people not on the rail who have seen a lot of shows including myself.  I think his comments were as much about us as the rail hoarders 
    Please do not introduce reason to the parasocial relationship 
    That is honestly how I feel commenting in this thread because most people clearly have an agenda that I could never introduce any competitive thought into. But the quote was literally directed to the front row haha. I’m not saying there aren’t thousands of people in the building who go to many shows, but we’re at 42 pages of “the band is clearly sick of seeing the same people up front” and idk how it can be any more clear that that’s not the case based on what he said two weeks ago (and Ohana last year for that matter). 
    I think you glossed over the majority of what people have concerns about with the current GA line situation.  Namely that there is a unified group of people that work together to ensure their group gets the best spots in GA and some of them have exhibited aggressive behavior towards outsiders.  And not to mention the unwritten rules about holding spots for people and allowing people to leave the line to get merch or disappear for long periods. 

    I think if anyone has an agenda here it’s the people who are members of the traveling GA clique and benefit from their behavior - because keeping the current system is in their own best interest.  In contrast, many here have countered that a random wristband system would make it fair for every fan.  
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    Definite doth protest much too much vibe from the GA crowd, but also some piling on. I can see both sides of it. 

    Where's the scalper at?
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,520
    Chrrie said:
    pjl44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Chrrie said:
    Also for those who missed what Ed said in Pitt:

    ”The dedication so many folks have shown. There’s signs - 101 shows. 39 shows. Just a lotta nice nice things. For all the people that see multiple shows and keep us on our toes. And we got the light on the front row here. Thank you. We’re gonna miss you. More importantly we know you’re gonna miss each other.  Be safe. And be good until we see you again.”
    There are many people not on the rail who have seen a lot of shows including myself.  I think his comments were as much about us as the rail hoarders 
    Please do not introduce reason to the parasocial relationship 
    That is honestly how I feel commenting in this thread because most people clearly have an agenda that I could never introduce any competitive thought into. But the quote was literally directed to the front row haha. I’m not saying there aren’t thousands of people in the building who go to many shows, but we’re at 42 pages of “the band is clearly sick of seeing the same people up front” and idk how it can be any more clear that that’s not the case based on what he said two weeks ago (and Ohana last year for that matter). 
    You have too much invested in insisting that the rest of us understand that the comments were made to you and your friends specifically 
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,851
    edited May 30
    Chrrie said:
    Just went to my first DMB show of the summer this week and again have been reminded how much I hate the pit lottery. I mean unless you like people shuffling in and out all night depending on how popular the current song is, saving enough space for their groups of friends to then have loud conversations throughout the entire show, the streamers from the Couch Tour Facebook group who hold their phones up above their head all night, someone else even FaceTimed their friend at home who didn’t mute themself and would occasionally scream, beer runs, bathroom runs, constantly switching spaces with or fitting in friends who materialize randomly, blank stares and boredom when deeper cuts or new songs are played, and my personal favorite: taking group selfies during the show. I can go on. 

    It’s a different crowd and vibe when all you have to do is show up at doors, I’ve watched it happen over the past few years with DMB and it’ll just create different problems to complain about. 

    That is simply what life is like beyond the rail and why I hate GA.  

    To be required to spend multiple days of your life sleeping on a sidewalk and dealing with the politics to get out of it sucks.  

    My 10C seats are in the rafters now because of GA.

    Im 5'5".  I would love to be in the rail utopia you describe... or even in the seated "wings" my 10c number used to dependably get.  I would even put in extra effort for the rail experience...  however, I just cannot take multiple days away from my kids, responsibilities and life.  And I am sure if people like me decided to show up 2 days early, then the requirement would become 2.5 or 3 days.  
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  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,733
    pjl44 said:
    Chrrie said:
    pjl44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Chrrie said:
    Also for those who missed what Ed said in Pitt:

    ”The dedication so many folks have shown. There’s signs - 101 shows. 39 shows. Just a lotta nice nice things. For all the people that see multiple shows and keep us on our toes. And we got the light on the front row here. Thank you. We’re gonna miss you. More importantly we know you’re gonna miss each other.  Be safe. And be good until we see you again.”
    There are many people not on the rail who have seen a lot of shows including myself.  I think his comments were as much about us as the rail hoarders 
    Please do not introduce reason to the parasocial relationship 
    That is honestly how I feel commenting in this thread because most people clearly have an agenda that I could never introduce any competitive thought into. But the quote was literally directed to the front row haha. I’m not saying there aren’t thousands of people in the building who go to many shows, but we’re at 42 pages of “the band is clearly sick of seeing the same people up front” and idk how it can be any more clear that that’s not the case based on what he said two weeks ago (and Ohana last year for that matter). 
    You have too much invested in insisting that the rest of us understand that the comments were made to you and your friends specifically 
    +100000
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,868
    JimmyV said:


    Where's the scalper at?
    2nd floor of The Ridgemont Mall, by the movie theater.


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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    Poncier said:
    JimmyV said:


    Where's the scalper at?
    2nd floor of The Ridgemont Mall, by the movie theater.


    Look at that shirt and tie combo. Could sell you concert tickets, cocaine, or a used car. 
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,868
    JimmyV said:
    Poncier said:
    JimmyV said:


    Where's the scalper at?
    2nd floor of The Ridgemont Mall, by the movie theater.


    Look at that shirt and tie combo. Could sell you concert tickets, cocaine, or a used car. 
    Probably all 3 in one transaction.
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  • aus_suz
    aus_suz Posts: 9,406
    GlowGirl said:
    Chrrie said:
    Also for those who missed what Ed said in Pitt:

    ”The dedication so many folks have shown. There’s signs - 101 shows. 39 shows. Just a lotta nice nice things. For all the people that see multiple shows and keep us on our toes. And we got the light on the front row here. Thank you. We’re gonna miss you. More importantly we know you’re gonna miss each other.  Be safe. And be good until we see you again.”
    I loved when he said that. I was tearing up a bit. And he was right - we do miss them and each other!!

    They could mean anyone anywhere in the Areana/Stadium because it's just not the front row that there are friendships.
  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 11,686
    edited May 30
    JimmyV said:
    Poncier said:
    JimmyV said:


    Where's the scalper at?
    2nd floor of The Ridgemont Mall, by the movie theater.


    Look at that shirt and tie combo. Could sell you concert tickets, cocaine, or a used car. 
    I had a white suit. It was pretty pretty 80s.
    Never sold any of those.  ^^^
  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,733
    Poncier said:
    JimmyV said:


    Where's the scalper at?
    2nd floor of The Ridgemont Mall, by the movie theater.


    I used to go to Glendale Galleria in the late 70s early 80s
  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,062
    aus_suz said:
    GlowGirl said:
    Chrrie said:
    Also for those who missed what Ed said in Pitt:

    ”The dedication so many folks have shown. There’s signs - 101 shows. 39 shows. Just a lotta nice nice things. For all the people that see multiple shows and keep us on our toes. And we got the light on the front row here. Thank you. We’re gonna miss you. More importantly we know you’re gonna miss each other.  Be safe. And be good until we see you again.”
    I loved when he said that. I was tearing up a bit. And he was right - we do miss them and each other!!

    They could mean anyone anywhere in the Areana/Stadium because it's just not the front row that there are friendships.
    I never said he didn't.

  • Chrrie
    Chrrie Posts: 435
    MayDay10 said:
    Chrrie said:
    Just went to my first DMB show of the summer this week and again have been reminded how much I hate the pit lottery. I mean unless you like people shuffling in and out all night depending on how popular the current song is, saving enough space for their groups of friends to then have loud conversations throughout the entire show, the streamers from the Couch Tour Facebook group who hold their phones up above their head all night, someone else even FaceTimed their friend at home who didn’t mute themself and would occasionally scream, beer runs, bathroom runs, constantly switching spaces with or fitting in friends who materialize randomly, blank stares and boredom when deeper cuts or new songs are played, and my personal favorite: taking group selfies during the show. I can go on. 

    It’s a different crowd and vibe when all you have to do is show up at doors, I’ve watched it happen over the past few years with DMB and it’ll just create different problems to complain about. 

    That is simply what life is like beyond the rail and why I hate GA.  

    To be required to spend multiple days of your life sleeping on a sidewalk and dealing with the politics to get out of it sucks.  

    My 10C seats are in the rafters now because of GA.

    Im 5'5".  I would love to be in the rail utopia you describe... or even in the seated "wings" my 10c number used to dependably get.  I would even put in extra effort for the rail experience...  however, I just cannot take multiple days away from my kids, responsibilities and life.  And I am sure if people like me decided to show up 2 days early, then the requirement would become 2.5 or 3 days.  
    Your seats are in the rafters because of PJ premium tickets and the fact that the ten club doesn’t get all of the best seats to allot to members in the lottery. You can get side rail or at least second row if you just came early the day of the show, try it next tour— plenty of new faces at this year’s shows. 
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,851
    Chrrie said:
    MayDay10 said:
    Chrrie said:
    Just went to my first DMB show of the summer this week and again have been reminded how much I hate the pit lottery. I mean unless you like people shuffling in and out all night depending on how popular the current song is, saving enough space for their groups of friends to then have loud conversations throughout the entire show, the streamers from the Couch Tour Facebook group who hold their phones up above their head all night, someone else even FaceTimed their friend at home who didn’t mute themself and would occasionally scream, beer runs, bathroom runs, constantly switching spaces with or fitting in friends who materialize randomly, blank stares and boredom when deeper cuts or new songs are played, and my personal favorite: taking group selfies during the show. I can go on. 

    It’s a different crowd and vibe when all you have to do is show up at doors, I’ve watched it happen over the past few years with DMB and it’ll just create different problems to complain about. 

    That is simply what life is like beyond the rail and why I hate GA.  

    To be required to spend multiple days of your life sleeping on a sidewalk and dealing with the politics to get out of it sucks.  

    My 10C seats are in the rafters now because of GA.

    Im 5'5".  I would love to be in the rail utopia you describe... or even in the seated "wings" my 10c number used to dependably get.  I would even put in extra effort for the rail experience...  however, I just cannot take multiple days away from my kids, responsibilities and life.  And I am sure if people like me decided to show up 2 days early, then the requirement would become 2.5 or 3 days.  
    Your seats are in the rafters because of PJ premium tickets and the fact that the ten club doesn’t get all of the best seats to allot to members in the lottery. You can get side rail or at least second row if you just came early the day of the show, try it next tour— plenty of new faces at this year’s shows. 
    What happened was all more senior members who would normally get good floor areas and close-wings were bumped out of the floor into the wings.  These people still have great spots and often just want and accept their seats.  

    Many people who went/go for GA are people with higher numbers and also new and 'dupe' accounts probably nearing 1,000,000.

    And yeah, add in the premium ticket stuff.

    My low to mid membership number was/is probably the worst place to be.  


    I actually stopped going to shows around 2018.  Part of it is kids and responsibility.  Part of it was my wife had beer spilled on her and groped twice at Wrigley GA.  I'm too old to jockey around people and deal with all that.  Maybe I would show up in the morning.  I guess it depends on time and place.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,753
    edited May 30
    MayDay10 said:
    Chrrie said:
    MayDay10 said:
    Chrrie said:
    Just went to my first DMB show of the summer this week and again have been reminded how much I hate the pit lottery. I mean unless you like people shuffling in and out all night depending on how popular the current song is, saving enough space for their groups of friends to then have loud conversations throughout the entire show, the streamers from the Couch Tour Facebook group who hold their phones up above their head all night, someone else even FaceTimed their friend at home who didn’t mute themself and would occasionally scream, beer runs, bathroom runs, constantly switching spaces with or fitting in friends who materialize randomly, blank stares and boredom when deeper cuts or new songs are played, and my personal favorite: taking group selfies during the show. I can go on. 

    It’s a different crowd and vibe when all you have to do is show up at doors, I’ve watched it happen over the past few years with DMB and it’ll just create different problems to complain about. 

    That is simply what life is like beyond the rail and why I hate GA.  

    To be required to spend multiple days of your life sleeping on a sidewalk and dealing with the politics to get out of it sucks.  

    My 10C seats are in the rafters now because of GA.

    Im 5'5".  I would love to be in the rail utopia you describe... or even in the seated "wings" my 10c number used to dependably get.  I would even put in extra effort for the rail experience...  however, I just cannot take multiple days away from my kids, responsibilities and life.  And I am sure if people like me decided to show up 2 days early, then the requirement would become 2.5 or 3 days.  
    Your seats are in the rafters because of PJ premium tickets and the fact that the ten club doesn’t get all of the best seats to allot to members in the lottery. You can get side rail or at least second row if you just came early the day of the show, try it next tour— plenty of new faces at this year’s shows. 
    What happened was all more senior members who would normally get good floor areas and close-wings were bumped out of the floor into the wings.  These people still have great spots and often just want and accept their seats.  

    Many people who went/go for GA are people with higher numbers and also new and 'dupe' accounts probably nearing 1,000,000.

    And yeah, add in the premium ticket stuff.

    My low to mid membership number was/is probably the worst place to be.  


    I actually stopped going to shows around 2018.  Part of it is kids and responsibility.  Part of it was my wife had beer spilled on her and groped twice at Wrigley GA.  I'm too old to jockey around people and deal with all that.  Maybe I would show up in the morning.  I guess it depends on time and place.
    That Wrigley experience sounds awful, I'm sorry. 

    I will say though, if you've kept your membership up since '04, you're mistaken as to the quality of the seats you would get if you won the lottery; you've been here longer  than me, and between St Paul in '23 and Nashville this year, I've landed around center ice in the lower bowl both times. 
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,108
    GA folks can do their thing. You can get close without the nonsense of lining up. What sucks is that TM is eliminating the best reserved seats for 10C members and pushing us further back to sell premium seats. The days of a full 10C sections in the 100s next to the stage seem to be over. Member since 98.
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,764
    Get_Right said:
    GA folks can do their thing. You can get close without the nonsense of lining up. What sucks is that TM is eliminating the best reserved seats for 10C members and pushing us further back to sell premium seats. The days of a full 10C sections in the 100s next to the stage seem to be over. Member since 98.
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,816
    I think it would be quite refreshing to come here and listen to some "new folks" discuss how they won  the "GA line lottery" and were able to get rail. 
    Giving everyone who has GA seats an opportunity to get rail would be fantastic. 

    And nobody would have to sleep on the streets for 36 hours.
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  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,652
    I think it would be quite refreshing to come here and listen to some "new folks" discuss how they won  the "GA line lottery" and were able to get rail. 
    Giving everyone who has GA seats an opportunity to get rail would be fantastic. 

    And nobody would have to sleep on the streets for 36 hours.
    Please, stop making sense.