You must have missed 2017 - 2020. Trump doesn't deliver on any of these things and you just keep taking the bait. Also, news flash,Trump and Jeffy were pals.
You keep owning the libs though while Donny rapes this country dry. Soooo gullible. Glad you voted Trump for reasons like this. Makes sense.
It's a hopeless situation...
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No kidding. Everybody is going to need to get used to tightening the belt and focusing more on needs than wants. For people who have learned how to manage money, that may not hurt so bad. You can live close to, or even below the poverty line and be OK. You can live well making less than the national average, even if you live in a state like California with its high cost of living. (I'm talking from experience).
But anyone who things they are in for good times and an easier life are probably going to get caught off guard and wonder what hit them. I hate to say this, because I don't like to see people suffer, but I think this has to happen. It's like how sometimes an addict has to hit bottom and then sink or swim.
What's done is done. And the result will be harsh. If we learn from this, well come out on the other side stronger and wiser. If not, I have no idea what some people will us for a life preserver. That will be sad, but also inevitable.
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No kidding. Everybody is going to need to get used to tightening the belt and focusing more on needs than wants. For people who have learned how to manage money, that may not hurt so bad. You can live close to, or even below the poverty line and be OK. You can live well making less than the national average, even if you live in a state like California with its high cost of living. (I'm talking from experience).
But anyone who things they are in for good times and an easier life are probably going to get caught off guard and wonder what hit them. I hate to say this, because I don't like to see people suffer, but I think this has to happen. It's like how sometimes an addict has to hit bottom and then sink or swim.
What's done is done. And the result will be harsh. If we learn from this, well come out on the other side stronger and wiser. If not, I have no idea what some people will us for a life preserver. That will be sad, but also inevitable.
Great post, I love this outlook. Good luck to everyone and their loved ones. No matter the side. Unity is best. Let's just stay focused and be ready for what lies ahead. Peace.
No kidding. Everybody is going to need to get used to tightening the belt and focusing more on needs than wants. For people who have learned how to manage money, that may not hurt so bad. You can live close to, or even below the poverty line and be OK. You can live well making less than the national average, even if you live in a state like California with its high cost of living. (I'm talking from experience).
But anyone who things they are in for good times and an easier life are probably going to get caught off guard and wonder what hit them. I hate to say this, because I don't like to see people suffer, but I think this has to happen. It's like how sometimes an addict has to hit bottom and then sink or swim.
What's done is done. And the result will be harsh. If we learn from this, well come out on the other side stronger and wiser. If not, I have no idea what some people will us for a life preserver. That will be sad, but also inevitable.
Great post, I love this outlook. Good luck to everyone and their loved ones. No matter the side. Unity is best. Let's just stay focused and be ready for what lies ahead. Peace.
Great and gracious words, Mike. Thank you!
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
It feels like the classic scenario where you're getting punked but maybe there's a well-sorted list of pedos being suppressed by shadowy figures who knows
I don’t think most people really care about George Clooney.
Also, you’ve posted/cited nothing but far right propoganda sources. Which whatever… No different than other folks posting/citing lefty sources. These outlets need you to be in a constant state of either: anger, fear, suspicion or smugness. Why? So you never stop clicking or turn your eyes away. They must have your rapt attention at ALL times. Again both the far right and far left are guilty of this.
My suggestion, to everyone, give it a break, at least for a couple of days. No news (unless it’s to check the weather or sports), no social media. After that try to seek out a variety of sources, not just propaganda sources.
I’ll continue to beat on this like a dead horse, but the greatest weapon humanity has developed is social media. It will be the end of us, in one way or the other.
To answer a question above, yeah, I am all for any Hollywood elites getting punished if they are involved in child-trafficking and sexual abuse. As well as clergy, business people, university athletic department officials, cops, youth pastors, etc.
that said, most American outrage has been reserved for fake and speculative cases. We assume all of Hollywood outside of Kevin Sorbo are pedos but we never once mention, I don’t know, the Catholic Church. I just hope parents look beyond this myopic view. If I had kids I would keep them away from “youth pastors” as vigilantly as I keep them away from unmarked white vans with dudes offering candy and puppies.
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Ever wake up in a foreign land and feel so ALIVE and just wanna dance??? Got 2 NZ late last night and about 2 start our day in the this beautiful city of Auckland. Been here a few times before, but boy overlooking the city from our cousins balcony is simply breathtaking…Very Seattle-ish. Can’t wait to meet up w/ the rest of our kiwi family later today and make our way to the show…I took the advice of one of the lifer posters on here and got myself a MAGA hat for the show…So keep an eye out 4 me if anyone happens to be out here and say hello…Mahalo https://x.com/roland_medve/status/1854110291191120370?s=46
Not wearing the issued armband?
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Ever wake up in a foreign land and feel so ALIVE and just wanna dance??? Got 2 NZ late last night and about 2 start our day in the this beautiful city of Auckland. Been here a few times before, but boy overlooking the city from our cousins balcony is simply breathtaking…Very Seattle-ish. Can’t wait to meet up w/ the rest of our kiwi family later today and make our way to the show…I took the advice of one of the lifer posters on here and got myself a MAGA hat for the show…So keep an eye out 4 me if anyone happens to be out here and say hello…Mahalo https://x.com/roland_medve/status/1854110291191120370?s=46
I edited my post! How long after 1/21/25 can we expect gasoline to be at 2$ a gallon and eggs $.75 cents a dozen and bacon very important for the MAGA cultist to be at $1.50 a pack from the looks of most of them they seem to consume lots of bacon
Ever wake up in a foreign land and feel so ALIVE and just wanna dance??? Got 2 NZ late last night and about 2 start our day in the this beautiful city of Auckland. Been here a few times before, but boy overlooking the city from our cousins balcony is simply breathtaking…Very Seattle-ish. Can’t wait to meet up w/ the rest of our kiwi family later today and make our way to the show…I took the advice of one of the lifer posters on here and got myself a MAGA hat for the show…So keep an eye out 4 me if anyone happens to be out here and say hello…Mahalo https://x.com/roland_medve/status/1854110291191120370?s=46
Not wearing the issued armband?
My two cents from a moderation standpoint:
You can be called a racist or Nazi repeatedly and without recourse for any number of things that simply don't hew to left wing thought (voting for Trump, watching Fox News, etc.).But you can quickly get in hot water for "personal attacks" by saying someone is dense, stupid, etc. Mind you, these are not people who have said anything actually racist or pro-Nazi, as that in and of itself would be grounds for discipline (justifiably).
I think it's a big contributing factor to why this place is like it is and why you see threads like the Harris thread get locked up. Maybe the status quo is totally fine, but something to consider if you feel like it isn't.
For example, I think it's fair to question a candidate's policy you deem racist and ask why/if a supporter disagrees. But if someone saying "I'm wearing a MAGA hat" leads to racist/Nazi insults that seems quite plainly a personal attack. Which if that's cool, at least allow me to unleash a little on the people I truly feel are stupid or dense.
For example, I think it's fair to question a candidate's policy you deem racist and ask why/if a supporter disagrees. But if someone saying "I'm wearing a MAGA hat" leads to racist/Nazi insults that seems quite plainly a personal attack. Which if that's cool, at least allow me to unleash a little on the people I truly feel are stupid or dense.
Good luck. I can’t believe how certain people act here. It really distracts from some excellent posts from the majority of regulars here.
I hate to say this, because I don't like to see people suffer, but I think this has to happen. It's like how sometimes an addict has to hit bottom and then sink or swim.
I think this is exactly spot on. America as a country decided. We deserve what we get.
Ever wake up in a foreign land and feel so ALIVE and just wanna dance??? Got 2 NZ late last night and about 2 start our day in the this beautiful city of Auckland. Been here a few times before, but boy overlooking the city from our cousins balcony is simply breathtaking…Very Seattle-ish. Can’t wait to meet up w/ the rest of our kiwi family later today and make our way to the show…I took the advice of one of the lifer posters on here and got myself a MAGA hat for the show…So keep an eye out 4 me if anyone happens to be out here and say hello…Mahalo https://x.com/roland_medve/status/1854110291191120370?s=46
Not wearing the issued armband?
My two cents from a moderation standpoint:
You can be called a racist or Nazi repeatedly and without recourse for any number of things that simply don't hew to left wing thought (voting for Trump, watching Fox News, etc.).But you can quickly get in hot water for "personal attacks" by saying someone is dense, stupid, etc. Mind you, these are not people who have said anything actually racist or pro-Nazi, as that in and of itself would be grounds for discipline (justifiably).
I think it's a big contributing factor to why this place is like it is and why you see threads like the Harris thread get locked up. Maybe the status quo is totally fine, but something to consider if you feel like it isn't.
The MAGA hat is not a GOP or ”I vote conservative” hat. You are being nothing but dishonest in removing what the hat symbols by who that hat is in support of.
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides.
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
And thats the callousness and lack of empathy that turns me off to them, their admin and their supporters. Like its some weird dunk. People are gonna die. Thats the end of their life. They will never exist again. And they are all "well whatever. too bad, so sad".
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Choccoloccotide
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These Trumps are such fucking losers. Innocent people being slaughtered
Zelensky could have ended this war 2 years ago but refused to negotiate. Fast forward to now with a million dead and he’s laughing all the way to the bank, but not for long.
he would have to give up his independent country. How is that acceptable? Why are we acting like what Russia is doing is totally fine? Even just giving them an inch on this?
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To answer a question above, yeah, I am all for any Hollywood elites getting punished if they are involved in child-trafficking and sexual abuse. As well as clergy, business people, university athletic department officials, cops, youth pastors, etc.
that said, most American outrage has been reserved for fake and speculative cases. We assume all of Hollywood outside of Kevin Sorbo are pedos but we never once mention, I don’t know, the Catholic Church. I just hope parents look beyond this myopic view. If I had kids I would keep them away from “youth pastors” as vigilantly as I keep them away from unmarked white vans with dudes offering candy and puppies.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
These Trumps are such fucking losers. Innocent people being slaughtered
Zelensky could have ended this war 2 years ago but refused to negotiate. Fast forward to now with a million dead and he’s laughing all the way to the bank, but not for long.
Or maybe he knew there was no negotiating. Do you honestly think Putin would’ve just backed the troops out and left it alone after getting Crimea? He wants the entire country and the Trumps will make sure he gets a significant piece of it since it’s in their best interest to help him out.
It’s funny how you make it Zelenskys fault that people are dead.
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brianlux
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I hate to say this, because I don't like to see people suffer, but I think this has to happen. It's like how sometimes an addict has to hit bottom and then sink or swim.
I think this is exactly spot on. America as a country decided. We deserve what we get.
I agree, though it's hugely unfortunate that we will all pay the price of electing a hateful dictator. The blowback will be harsh. All but the most wealthy will feel the pinch. People are going to struggle. The question is, will voters who allowed this to happen learn from it? Will they learn to fact check and think critically? Or will they remain ignorant and prone to believing lies? We shall see.
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You keep owning the libs though while Donny rapes this country dry. Soooo gullible. Glad you voted Trump for reasons like this. Makes sense.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Great and gracious words, Mike. Thank you!
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Also, you’ve posted/cited nothing but far right propoganda sources. Which whatever… No different than other folks posting/citing lefty sources. These outlets need you to be in a constant state of either: anger, fear, suspicion or smugness. Why? So you never stop clicking or turn your eyes away. They must have your rapt attention at ALL times. Again both the far right and far left are guilty of this.
My suggestion, to everyone, give it a break, at least for a couple of days. No news (unless it’s to check the weather or sports), no social media. After that try to seek out a variety of sources, not just propaganda sources.
I’ll continue to beat on this like a dead horse, but the greatest weapon humanity has developed is social media. It will be the end of us, in one way or the other.
that said, most American outrage has been reserved for fake and speculative cases. We assume all of Hollywood outside of Kevin Sorbo are pedos but we never once mention, I don’t know, the Catholic Church. I just hope parents look beyond this myopic view. If I had kids I would keep them away from “youth pastors” as vigilantly as I keep them away from unmarked white vans with dudes offering candy and puppies.
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You can be called a racist or Nazi repeatedly and without recourse for any number of things that simply don't hew to left wing thought (voting for Trump, watching Fox News, etc.).But you can quickly get in hot water for "personal attacks" by saying someone is dense, stupid, etc. Mind you, these are not people who have said anything actually racist or pro-Nazi, as that in and of itself would be grounds for discipline (justifiably).
I think it's a big contributing factor to why this place is like it is and why you see threads like the Harris thread get locked up. Maybe the status quo is totally fine, but something to consider if you feel like it isn't.
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides.
sold the lease. needed the cash.....
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
or LDS. Or Evangelical pastors, or Cops, or......
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I agree, though it's hugely unfortunate that we will all pay the price of electing a hateful dictator. The blowback will be harsh. All but the most wealthy will feel the pinch. People are going to struggle. The question is, will voters who allowed this to happen learn from it? Will they learn to fact check and think critically? Or will they remain ignorant and prone to believing lies? We shall see.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"