#47 - Musk/trump/Vance

JojoRice

tbergs said:

JojoRice said:

Go Beavers said:

JojoRice said:

Trump voter here. Economy & inflation were the 2 most important items to me. Our household grocery bills have almost tripled in the last 2 years. Kamala says she's going to fix it. Why not do something now while you're in office and have the opportunity? She would have gotten a lot more votes (including mine) had she shown some action instead of just talking and laughing. 

Inflation has been dropping lately to fairly typical historical levels. I’m curious, since the economy is your main issue, what you think when you hear that Trump’s policies will increase inflation

I've seen mixed articles regarding how his policies will increase inflation. All the so called experts on both sides of the political spectrum claim to know what's going to happen. Do I think his policies will fix it? I honestly don't know. However with his business background, I have more confidence in him than Kamala in that regard.  

Yes, 6 bankruptcies instills confidence he knows what he's doing versus Harris appointing experts and people that know best on how to make it happen. Do you really think Trump has a plan that will lower costs for the whole country? Neither candidate personally will be making the plan so I trust the person who hasn't bankrupted their businesses multiple times to provide an effective solution. If that's even something either of them can control.

Yes, he's had 6 bankruptcies. But he's also a billionaire too so he's obviously done some stuff right. 

Bentleyspop said:

JojoRice said:

Trump voter here. Economy & inflation were the 2 most important items to me. Our household grocery bills have almost tripled in the last 2 years. Kamala says she's going to fix it. Why not do something now while you're in office and have the opportunity? She would have gotten a lot more votes (including mine) had she shown some action instead of just talking and laughing. 

Groceries have tripled?
I call BS!
I know my strawberries arent now $6 a pint
I know my almonds aren't  now $24 a pound 
I know my yogurt isnt now $18 per container.

So you must have upgraded from Aldi to Whole foods.
Otherwise BS!

Nope. Just Publix. 

mickeyrat

over/under on how quickly the filibuster is history after jan 3 2025

CO278952

Interesting that Kamala received 12M fewer votes than Biden did in 2020.  Be honest, her campaign and appeal were severely lacking.  America simply made the better choice.  Excited to see what the future holds!  It's gonna be OK.  

Bentleyspop

JojoRice said:

tbergs said:

JojoRice said:

Go Beavers said:

JojoRice said:

Trump voter here. Economy & inflation were the 2 most important items to me. Our household grocery bills have almost tripled in the last 2 years. Kamala says she's going to fix it. Why not do something now while you're in office and have the opportunity? She would have gotten a lot more votes (including mine) had she shown some action instead of just talking and laughing. 

Inflation has been dropping lately to fairly typical historical levels. I’m curious, since the economy is your main issue, what you think when you hear that Trump’s policies will increase inflation

I've seen mixed articles regarding how his policies will increase inflation. All the so called experts on both sides of the political spectrum claim to know what's going to happen. Do I think his policies will fix it? I honestly don't know. However with his business background, I have more confidence in him than Kamala in that regard.  

Yes, 6 bankruptcies instills confidence he knows what he's doing versus Harris appointing experts and people that know best on how to make it happen. Do you really think Trump has a plan that will lower costs for the whole country? Neither candidate personally will be making the plan so I trust the person who hasn't bankrupted their businesses multiple times to provide an effective solution. If that's even something either of them can control.

Yes, he's had 6 bankruptcies. But he's also a billionaire too so he's obviously done some stuff right. 

Bentleyspop said:

JojoRice said:

Trump voter here. Economy & inflation were the 2 most important items to me. Our household grocery bills have almost tripled in the last 2 years. Kamala says she's going to fix it. Why not do something now while you're in office and have the opportunity? She would have gotten a lot more votes (including mine) had she shown some action instead of just talking and laughing. 

Groceries have tripled?
I call BS!
I know my strawberries arent now $6 a pint
I know my almonds aren't  now $24 a pound 
I know my yogurt isnt now $18 per container.

So you must have upgraded from Aldi to Whole foods.
Otherwise BS!

Nope. Just Publix. 

Then you need to shop around because  you're  getting screwd by Publix which is  owned by ....wait for it.... a supporter of 45

ComeToTX

Yes, I’m sure prices will drop with 100% tariffs on all Chinese goods. I’m glad I have a decent nest egg because shit is about to get hard. Like Elon warned y’all it would. 

Lerxst1992

Gern Blansten said:

I can't wait to see trump roll out his cabinet. Really curious who the Chief of Staff will be.

Who will agree to be SecDef? 

Certainly he owes favors to Gabbard. 

Obvious choice for chief staff is Tim Matheson as he has solid white house experience.

And sec def is Mark Harmon, given his nearly 20 years in solving national security issues within DoD

lastexitlondon

Things are double the price in many countries. Including here. Nobody will FIX it. It's a global problem atm.
 It was written above but how any woman or father of daughters can  vote for this abhorrent human is beyond anyone outside the USA.
Only in America is a phrase for a reason.

bootlegger10

cincybearcat said:

wnh1977 said:

Gern Blansten said:

wnh1977 said:

Chris Hedges

@ChrisLynnHedges

Kamala Harris and the Democratic Party, along with the establishment wing of the Republican Party, which allied itself with Harris, live in their own non-reality-based belief system. Harris, who was anointed by party elites and never received a single primary vote, proudly trumpeted her endorsement by Dick Cheney, a politician who left office with a 13 percent approval rating. The smug, self-righteous “moral” crusade against Trump stokes the national reality television show that has replaced journalism and politics. It reduces a social, economic and political crisis to the personality of Trump. It refuses to confront and name the corporate forces responsible for our failed democracy. It allows Democratic politicians to blithely ignore their base -  77 percent of Democrats and 62 percent of independents support an arms embargo against Israel. The open collusion with corporate oppression and refusal to heed the desires and needs of the electorate neuters the press and Trump  critics. These corporate puppets stand for nothing, other than their own advancement. The lies they tell to working men and women, especially with programs such as the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), do far more damage than any of the lies uttered by Trump.

lol....great argument since trump is literally a reality tv show slug

"But what about Trump?" "But Trump is bad" "At least she's not Trump"  I don't think that platform worked this time.  I think Hedges is a really smart journalist who is critical of both sides, but your reply proves his point.  The Democrats have completely lost their way... but what about Trump?!

It should have if people weren't so willing to compromise on basic morals.  Christians that vote for trump are fake Christians. Don't talk to me about abortion, they voted for a piece of shit human being that is the antithesis of everything they say they believe and care about.  And any women or father of a daughter that voted for trump lack morals.  

In my discussions with a few, they voted based on policies and not the person.  That was their justification.  

mickeyrat

CO278952 said:

Interesting that Kamala received 12M fewer votes than Biden did in 2020.  Be honest, her campaign and appeal were severely lacking.  America simply made the better choice.  Excited to see what the future holds!  It's gonna be OK.  

100 days as a top of ticket candidate

Spiritual_Chaos

lastexitlondon said:

Things are double the price in many countries. Including here. Nobody will FIX it. It's a global problem atm.
 It was written above but how any woman or father of daughters can  vote for this abhorrent human is beyond anyone outside the USA.
Only in America is a phrase for a reason.

Brexit

Go Beavers

JojoRice said:

Go Beavers said:

JojoRice said:

Trump voter here. Economy & inflation were the 2 most important items to me. Our household grocery bills have almost tripled in the last 2 years. Kamala says she's going to fix it. Why not do something now while you're in office and have the opportunity? She would have gotten a lot more votes (including mine) had she shown some action instead of just talking and laughing. 

Inflation has been dropping lately to fairly typical historical levels. I’m curious, since the economy is your main issue, what you think when you hear that Trump’s policies will increase inflation

I've seen mixed articles regarding how his policies will increase inflation. All the so called experts on both sides of the political spectrum claim to know what's going to happen. Do I think his policies will fix it? I honestly don't know. However with his business background, I have more confidence in him than Kamala in that regard.  

Side note, I wasn't crazy about either candidate. I hope the next election has some new & better candidates to pick from. 

Okay. Ignore the experts. If you remove 9-15 million low wage earners, and replace them (after a long period of a labor shortage) with higher wage earners, what typically happens to prices for the consumer? If large tariffs are added onto a lot of imported goods, what happens to the price of those goods? 

Spiritual_Chaos

JojoRice said:

I honestly don't know. However with his business background, I have more confidence in him than Kamala in that regard.  

Do you seriously think that Kamala or Trump is standing in their office next to a whiteboard and solving it by themselves?

You had the USA on the subject of Inflation -- OUTPERFORM -- the rest of the western world with BIDEN AND KAMALA.

Gern Blansten

JojoRice said:

Trump voter here. Economy & inflation were the 2 most important items to me. Our household grocery bills have almost tripled in the last 2 years. Kamala says she's going to fix it. Why not do something now while you're in office and have the opportunity? She would have gotten a lot more votes (including mine) had she shown some action instead of just talking and laughing. 

Inflation is global. And you would never have voted for her give it a rest. The laughing comment tells us where your news sources are. 

I mean seriously...you had to point out her laughing and not trump lying/bloviating?

Gern Blansten

Spiritual_Chaos said:

JojoRice said:

I honestly don't know. However with his business background, I have more confidence in him than Kamala in that regard.  

Do you seriously think that Kamala or Trump is standing in their office next to a whiteboard and solving it by themselves?

You had the USA on the subject of Inflation -- OUTPERFORM -- the rest of the western world with BIDEN AND KAMALA.

Exactly. My god I can't believe I still see people praise trump's business background. 

mickeyrat

Gern Blansten said:

JojoRice said:

Trump voter here. Economy & inflation were the 2 most important items to me. Our household grocery bills have almost tripled in the last 2 years. Kamala says she's going to fix it. Why not do something now while you're in office and have the opportunity? She would have gotten a lot more votes (including mine) had she shown some action instead of just talking and laughing. 

Inflation is global. And you would never have voted for her give it a rest. The laughing comment tells us where your news sources are. 

apparently doesn't know what the vp role is.

heres a fun experiment. look at corporate profits going back 10 yrs. yr on yr. look at bonuses paid in that time and the money spent on stock buy backs.

THEN tell me the how much soda is in that 12 oz can we used to buy compared to its price from 10 yrs ago to today.

I'll wait.

this is not for you Gern.

josevolution

What will be the 1st red flag from this administration that will cause you to lift your head up and say uhmm wait what? 

For me I wanna see what he does to the press and news outlets and political opponents! Once they start to shut down free speech or freedom to protest that will be my signal to start contingencies I have in place! And please just stop with it can’t happen here bullshit! He’s already got immunity from the SC and there’s no guard rails from senate or the house and his got the playbook from Putin on how to take complete control! 

Gern Blansten

His winning is the first red flag. It's going to be another clown show.

My hope is that the party ropes him in better but that probably won't last long. Thune was already asking trump to stay out of the majority leader discussions...like that's going to happen.

Hawk123

Go Beavers said:

JojoRice said:

Go Beavers said:

JojoRice said:

Trump voter here. Economy & inflation were the 2 most important items to me. Our household grocery bills have almost tripled in the last 2 years. Kamala says she's going to fix it. Why not do something now while you're in office and have the opportunity? She would have gotten a lot more votes (including mine) had she shown some action instead of just talking and laughing. 

Inflation has been dropping lately to fairly typical historical levels. I’m curious, since the economy is your main issue, what you think when you hear that Trump’s policies will increase inflation

I've seen mixed articles regarding how his policies will increase inflation. All the so called experts on both sides of the political spectrum claim to know what's going to happen. Do I think his policies will fix it? I honestly don't know. However with his business background, I have more confidence in him than Kamala in that regard.  

Side note, I wasn't crazy about either candidate. I hope the next election has some new & better candidates to pick from. 

Okay. Ignore the experts. If you remove 9-15 million low wage earners, and replace them (after a long period of a labor shortage) with higher wage earners, what typically happens to prices for the consumer? If large tariffs are added onto a lot of imported goods, what happens to the price of those goods? 

Take your common sense elsewhere. Or say those 9-15 million people will pay for their groceries for the next 4 years, pepper in some racist insults if you want it to get through. 

Hawk123

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Gern Blansten

tbergs said:

JojoRice said:

Trump voter here. Economy & inflation were the 2 most important items to me. Our household grocery bills have almost tripled in the last 2 years. Kamala says she's going to fix it. Why not do something now while you're in office and have the opportunity? She would have gotten a lot more votes (including mine) had she shown some action instead of just talking and laughing. 

I think your last line gives away that there really wasn't much she could do to win your vote. Talking and laughing, really? Ok, so vote the serial liar back in because promises made, promises kept.

You list one thing she could have done even though she is VP. Yeah, she's in the current admin, but with that level of thinking anything she was running on was BS because why hadn't she just done it now? No win situation. The complication of being part of the current administration if people don't think it's doing enough even though inflation is coming down faster than any other developed nation. Good luck on rolling the dice Trump will bring prices down with his plans to tariff the shit out of everything. Hope it works out at the cost of everything else that's going to happen. 

History repeats itself. Inflation is decreasing, interest rates are decreasing, etc., right now so trump will get credit for the further decreases and people like Jojo will sing his praises. It's maddening.

Then things will turn a bit and trump will blame democrats and the trumpsters will fall right in line blindly.