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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,854
    Someone is threatened by feminine hygiene product dispensers in boys rooms and co-ed, gender neutral bathrooms? Really? 
    I’m curious what people picture when they think gender neutral bathroom at school?
    Do most think of that Ally McBeal style where you’ve got multiple stalls, or a single use bathroom?
    I don’t think either exist in schools. I’d be mortified using a large one in mixed company. Those huge 1” gaps around the doors, making any sounds, etc. And I’ve never seen a single use one available to students for security reasons.
  • RunIntoTheRain
    RunIntoTheRain Texas Posts: 1,033
    Mark Kelly
    mace1229 said:
    Someone is threatened by feminine hygiene product dispensers in boys rooms and co-ed, gender neutral bathrooms? Really? 
    I’m curious what people picture when they think gender neutral bathroom at school?
    Do most think of that Ally McBeal style where you’ve got multiple stalls, or a single use bathroom?
    I don’t think either exist in schools. I’d be mortified using a large one in mixed company. Those huge 1” gaps around the doors, making any sounds, etc. And I’ve never seen a single use one available to students for security reasons.
    I'm very confident that in your lifetime you've been in the bathroom with transgender individuals many times and DID NOT KNOW IT. 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,352
    Josh Shapiro
    mace1229 said:
    The Teskiniec post highlights everything that’s wrong with the political discourse in the US right now (probably the world too). Everybody has an opinion about feminine hygiene products in boys bathrooms, whether they care or if it affects them or not. Save the people it actually affects, it’s not a real issue. But economic policy IS a real issue that affects all of us at almost every level. But it’s complex to talk about and it’s not fun or visceral unlike getting pissed about free tampons. It’s easier to have an opinion about tampons and politicians and the cable media 2ants us to talk about that because it gets eyeballs and prevents us from talking bout not sexy issues like monetary policy. 

    This leads to the culture shit and uninformed opinions and allows con artists like Trump or MAGA or Hannity or whoever to manipulate people s opinions. 
    How many people does putting tampons in bathrooms actually help though? We're talking about females who identify/transitioned into males, who aren't taking any medication that would prevent their period, and who rely on school for period products. I have no idea, but that's got to be a really low number, like 0.1% of the population who fits all that?
    So instead of telling that maybe 1 student who would actually use the tampons in the boys bathroom to go to the counseling office or nurse instead, the answer is to put tampons everywhere.
    Just seems like a huge waste of money to install and maintain dispensers when no one probably even needs it anyway. Especially starting in the 4th grade. If they were around when I was in high school I'm sure the game would be how many tampons can you tie to your friends backpack without them noticing. And they'd probably run out faster in the boys room than the girls. Just seems like a waste of money and a wrong area of focus when there's so many other things in education that deserve attention and when alternate solutions are available. 
    asking people to sacrifice their privacy isn't the answer either. If it helps even one kid feel "normal", then I'm all for it. 
    I hear you, but I’m not there. I really don’t care a whole lot about this issue, but I’d like to understand the budget/cost associated with it. Cause helping 1 kid sounds nice, but if it’s 1 kid the cost far outweighs the benefit. This is kinda my biggest issue with lots of people in the government, budgeting and being selective. 
    but the machine is permanent...it doesn't dissolve after the "one kid" graduates or changes schools. 
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  • Gern Blansten
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    Josh Shapiro
    mace1229 said:
    Someone is threatened by feminine hygiene product dispensers in boys rooms and co-ed, gender neutral bathrooms? Really? 
    I’m curious what people picture when they think gender neutral bathroom at school?
    Do most think of that Ally McBeal style where you’ve got multiple stalls, or a single use bathroom?
    I don’t think either exist in schools. I’d be mortified using a large one in mixed company. Those huge 1” gaps around the doors, making any sounds, etc. And I’ve never seen a single use one available to students for security reasons.
    Every one I've seen has been single use...go in and lock the door. 
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,850
    Josh Shapiro
    Pitchfork Fest, until this year, had a gender neutral bathroom. It was one of those trailer type bathrooms. AC. 3 stalls, 3 urinals, 2 sinks. It was swanky. The line was always shorter. I used it in mixed company. It was fine. Normal. Felt no different than going into the men’s room. Im hoping for the women it felt similar. Everyone got in and got out. 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,854
    edited August 2024
    mace1229 said:
    Someone is threatened by feminine hygiene product dispensers in boys rooms and co-ed, gender neutral bathrooms? Really? 
    I’m curious what people picture when they think gender neutral bathroom at school?
    Do most think of that Ally McBeal style where you’ve got multiple stalls, or a single use bathroom?
    I don’t think either exist in schools. I’d be mortified using a large one in mixed company. Those huge 1” gaps around the doors, making any sounds, etc. And I’ve never seen a single use one available to students for security reasons.
    I'm very confident that in your lifetime you've been in the bathroom with transgender individuals many times and DID NOT KNOW IT. 
    I am very confident in that too. DIdn't say that wasn't the case. But that isn't a gender neutral bathroom and wasn't my question.
    I think when some people hear "gender neutral" bathroom they picture Ally McBeal style, with a bunch of stalls. And that freaks people out, it would me too.
    But like Gern said, its actually just a single use bathroom, and no one cares about those, or cares if hygiene products are placed inside.
    I actually had this discussion with a pretty liberal female co-worker a while ago. She thought work places and schools should move towards those larger gender neutral ones and was surprised that as a male I would be horrified. She thought guys are less private and don't care. Once I explained that when I've been holding it in all day, I don't want to be worried about a female co-worker in the stall next to me experiencing that, she understood. Not to mentioned I rarely see a bathroom without  those giant 1" gaps along the door frame that makes it awkward.
    Post edited by mace1229 on
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,524
    edited August 2024
    Tim Waltz
    All toilets at my local cinema are gender neutral, what is the big deal.






    The same at my work.


    Obviously here in Sweden, we usually don't have those stalls with thin doors and that PERVERSE high gap at the bottom that Americans just love and need.

    Reference to show I know what I am talking about

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    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
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  • mace1229
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    mace1229 said:
    The Teskiniec post highlights everything that’s wrong with the political discourse in the US right now (probably the world too). Everybody has an opinion about feminine hygiene products in boys bathrooms, whether they care or if it affects them or not. Save the people it actually affects, it’s not a real issue. But economic policy IS a real issue that affects all of us at almost every level. But it’s complex to talk about and it’s not fun or visceral unlike getting pissed about free tampons. It’s easier to have an opinion about tampons and politicians and the cable media 2ants us to talk about that because it gets eyeballs and prevents us from talking bout not sexy issues like monetary policy. 

    This leads to the culture shit and uninformed opinions and allows con artists like Trump or MAGA or Hannity or whoever to manipulate people s opinions. 
    How many people does putting tampons in bathrooms actually help though? We're talking about females who identify/transitioned into males, who aren't taking any medication that would prevent their period, and who rely on school for period products. I have no idea, but that's got to be a really low number, like 0.1% of the population who fits all that?
    So instead of telling that maybe 1 student who would actually use the tampons in the boys bathroom to go to the counseling office or nurse instead, the answer is to put tampons everywhere.
    Just seems like a huge waste of money to install and maintain dispensers when no one probably even needs it anyway. Especially starting in the 4th grade. If they were around when I was in high school I'm sure the game would be how many tampons can you tie to your friends backpack without them noticing. And they'd probably run out faster in the boys room than the girls. Just seems like a waste of money and a wrong area of focus when there's so many other things in education that deserve attention and when alternate solutions are available. 
    asking people to sacrifice their privacy isn't the answer either. If it helps even one kid feel "normal", then I'm all for it. 
    To me it just seems more like the coddling of our kids and not expecting anything from them. Some schools don't offer premium or catered lunches now because it would hurt the feelings of those on free school lunch and the Pizza Hut line doesn't qualify for free lunch, so now no kid gets Pizza Hut because it might hurt someone's feelings to watch someone else eat pizza. The amount that we hold the hands of kids is a little sad these days. We make regulations for an entire district so that 1 kid doesn't have to go to the nurse to ask for a tampon. It's part of life, I don't see it as doing any favors for kids when we coddle them so much. I had huge 1/2" thick glasses ever since I was in first grade. Should we have made every kid wear glasses so I didn't feel isolated? No, you learn to live with it and move on. It's not like anyone is saying deny necessities to any of these kids. Its the idea that there might maybe be one kid in the 11th grade who uses a tampon and prefers the male bathroom, so lets stock every bathroom from 4th grade on up with them instead of explaining to that one kid here's the situation, here's how we accommodate you and here's how you can help yourself in this situation. 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,352
    Josh Shapiro
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Someone is threatened by feminine hygiene product dispensers in boys rooms and co-ed, gender neutral bathrooms? Really? 
    I’m curious what people picture when they think gender neutral bathroom at school?
    Do most think of that Ally McBeal style where you’ve got multiple stalls, or a single use bathroom?
    I don’t think either exist in schools. I’d be mortified using a large one in mixed company. Those huge 1” gaps around the doors, making any sounds, etc. And I’ve never seen a single use one available to students for security reasons.
    I'm very confident that in your lifetime you've been in the bathroom with transgender individuals many times and DID NOT KNOW IT. 
    I am very confident in that too. DIdn't say that wasn't the case. But that isn't a gender neutral bathroom and wasn't my question.
    I think when some people hear "gender neutral" bathroom they picture Ally McBeal style, with a bunch of stalls. And that freaks people out, it would me too.
    But like Gern said, its actually just a single use bathroom, and no one cares about those, or cares if hygiene products are placed inside.
    I actually had this discussion with a pretty liberal female co-worker a while ago. She thought work places and schools should move towards those larger gender neutral ones and was surprised that as a male I would be horrified. She thought guys are less private and don't care. Once I explained that when I've been holding it in all day, I don't want to be worried about a female co-worker in the stall next to me experiencing that, she understood. Not to mentioned I rarely see a bathroom without  those giant 1" gaps along the door frame that makes it awkward.
    yeah I don't want to be pinching off a loaf with a female co-worker in the room
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  • teskeinc
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    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    The Teskiniec post highlights everything that’s wrong with the political discourse in the US right now (probably the world too). Everybody has an opinion about feminine hygiene products in boys bathrooms, whether they care or if it affects them or not. Save the people it actually affects, it’s not a real issue. But economic policy IS a real issue that affects all of us at almost every level. But it’s complex to talk about and it’s not fun or visceral unlike getting pissed about free tampons. It’s easier to have an opinion about tampons and politicians and the cable media 2ants us to talk about that because it gets eyeballs and prevents us from talking bout not sexy issues like monetary policy. 

    This leads to the culture shit and uninformed opinions and allows con artists like Trump or MAGA or Hannity or whoever to manipulate people s opinions. 
    How many people does putting tampons in bathrooms actually help though? We're talking about females who identify/transitioned into males, who aren't taking any medication that would prevent their period, and who rely on school for period products. I have no idea, but that's got to be a really low number, like 0.1% of the population who fits all that?
    So instead of telling that maybe 1 student who would actually use the tampons in the boys bathroom to go to the counseling office or nurse instead, the answer is to put tampons everywhere.
    Just seems like a huge waste of money to install and maintain dispensers when no one probably even needs it anyway. Especially starting in the 4th grade. If they were around when I was in high school I'm sure the game would be how many tampons can you tie to your friends backpack without them noticing. And they'd probably run out faster in the boys room than the girls. Just seems like a waste of money and a wrong area of focus when there's so many other things in education that deserve attention and when alternate solutions are available. 
    asking people to sacrifice their privacy isn't the answer either. If it helps even one kid feel "normal", then I'm all for it. 
    To me it just seems more like the coddling of our kids and not expecting anything from them. Some schools don't offer premium or catered lunches now because it would hurt the feelings of those on free school lunch and the Pizza Hut line doesn't qualify for free lunch, so now no kid gets Pizza Hut because it might hurt someone's feelings to watch someone else eat pizza. The amount that we hold the hands of kids is a little sad these days. We make regulations for an entire district so that 1 kid doesn't have to go to the nurse to ask for a tampon. It's part of life, I don't see it as doing any favors for kids when we coddle them so much. I had huge 1/2" thick glasses ever since I was in first grade. Should we have made every kid wear glasses so I didn't feel isolated? No, you learn to live with it and move on. It's not like anyone is saying deny necessities to any of these kids. Its the idea that there might maybe be one kid in the 11th grade who uses a tampon and prefers the male bathroom, so lets stock every bathroom from 4th grade on up with them instead of explaining to that one kid here's the situation, here's how we accommodate you and here's how you can help yourself in this situation. 
    All that is brought to you by your local liberal administrator. No Halloween, can’t offend poor kids that can’t afford a costume. No Columbus Day, offending the Indigenous. No hand Turkey Art either. Christmas! No way! It’s snowflakes and snow persons only! Way too many to offend. Valentines Day, uh oh…… unless it’s gay! No way! Show the Easter Bunny the way out…. He’s not welcome either. Did I miss any?

    Spend all the money on gender identifying material and finding a way for every kid to use a tampon! That’s the liberal way!
  • Tim Waltz
    teskeinc said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    The Teskiniec post highlights everything that’s wrong with the political discourse in the US right now (probably the world too). Everybody has an opinion about feminine hygiene products in boys bathrooms, whether they care or if it affects them or not. Save the people it actually affects, it’s not a real issue. But economic policy IS a real issue that affects all of us at almost every level. But it’s complex to talk about and it’s not fun or visceral unlike getting pissed about free tampons. It’s easier to have an opinion about tampons and politicians and the cable media 2ants us to talk about that because it gets eyeballs and prevents us from talking bout not sexy issues like monetary policy. 

    This leads to the culture shit and uninformed opinions and allows con artists like Trump or MAGA or Hannity or whoever to manipulate people s opinions. 
    How many people does putting tampons in bathrooms actually help though? We're talking about females who identify/transitioned into males, who aren't taking any medication that would prevent their period, and who rely on school for period products. I have no idea, but that's got to be a really low number, like 0.1% of the population who fits all that?
    So instead of telling that maybe 1 student who would actually use the tampons in the boys bathroom to go to the counseling office or nurse instead, the answer is to put tampons everywhere.
    Just seems like a huge waste of money to install and maintain dispensers when no one probably even needs it anyway. Especially starting in the 4th grade. If they were around when I was in high school I'm sure the game would be how many tampons can you tie to your friends backpack without them noticing. And they'd probably run out faster in the boys room than the girls. Just seems like a waste of money and a wrong area of focus when there's so many other things in education that deserve attention and when alternate solutions are available. 
    asking people to sacrifice their privacy isn't the answer either. If it helps even one kid feel "normal", then I'm all for it. 
    To me it just seems more like the coddling of our kids and not expecting anything from them. Some schools don't offer premium or catered lunches now because it would hurt the feelings of those on free school lunch and the Pizza Hut line doesn't qualify for free lunch, so now no kid gets Pizza Hut because it might hurt someone's feelings to watch someone else eat pizza. The amount that we hold the hands of kids is a little sad these days. We make regulations for an entire district so that 1 kid doesn't have to go to the nurse to ask for a tampon. It's part of life, I don't see it as doing any favors for kids when we coddle them so much. I had huge 1/2" thick glasses ever since I was in first grade. Should we have made every kid wear glasses so I didn't feel isolated? No, you learn to live with it and move on. It's not like anyone is saying deny necessities to any of these kids. Its the idea that there might maybe be one kid in the 11th grade who uses a tampon and prefers the male bathroom, so lets stock every bathroom from 4th grade on up with them instead of explaining to that one kid here's the situation, here's how we accommodate you and here's how you can help yourself in this situation. 
    All that is brought to you by your local liberal administrator. No Halloween, can’t offend poor kids that can’t afford a costume. No Columbus Day, offending the Indigenous. No hand Turkey Art either. Christmas! No way! It’s snowflakes and snow persons only! Way too many to offend. Valentines Day, uh oh…… unless it’s gay! No way! Show the Easter Bunny the way out…. He’s not welcome either. Did I miss any?

    Spend all the money on gender identifying material and finding a way for every kid to use a tampon! That’s the liberal way!
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,352
    Josh Shapiro
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    The Teskiniec post highlights everything that’s wrong with the political discourse in the US right now (probably the world too). Everybody has an opinion about feminine hygiene products in boys bathrooms, whether they care or if it affects them or not. Save the people it actually affects, it’s not a real issue. But economic policy IS a real issue that affects all of us at almost every level. But it’s complex to talk about and it’s not fun or visceral unlike getting pissed about free tampons. It’s easier to have an opinion about tampons and politicians and the cable media 2ants us to talk about that because it gets eyeballs and prevents us from talking bout not sexy issues like monetary policy. 

    This leads to the culture shit and uninformed opinions and allows con artists like Trump or MAGA or Hannity or whoever to manipulate people s opinions. 
    How many people does putting tampons in bathrooms actually help though? We're talking about females who identify/transitioned into males, who aren't taking any medication that would prevent their period, and who rely on school for period products. I have no idea, but that's got to be a really low number, like 0.1% of the population who fits all that?
    So instead of telling that maybe 1 student who would actually use the tampons in the boys bathroom to go to the counseling office or nurse instead, the answer is to put tampons everywhere.
    Just seems like a huge waste of money to install and maintain dispensers when no one probably even needs it anyway. Especially starting in the 4th grade. If they were around when I was in high school I'm sure the game would be how many tampons can you tie to your friends backpack without them noticing. And they'd probably run out faster in the boys room than the girls. Just seems like a waste of money and a wrong area of focus when there's so many other things in education that deserve attention and when alternate solutions are available. 
    asking people to sacrifice their privacy isn't the answer either. If it helps even one kid feel "normal", then I'm all for it. 
    To me it just seems more like the coddling of our kids and not expecting anything from them. Some schools don't offer premium or catered lunches now because it would hurt the feelings of those on free school lunch and the Pizza Hut line doesn't qualify for free lunch, so now no kid gets Pizza Hut because it might hurt someone's feelings to watch someone else eat pizza. The amount that we hold the hands of kids is a little sad these days. We make regulations for an entire district so that 1 kid doesn't have to go to the nurse to ask for a tampon. It's part of life, I don't see it as doing any favors for kids when we coddle them so much. I had huge 1/2" thick glasses ever since I was in first grade. Should we have made every kid wear glasses so I didn't feel isolated? No, you learn to live with it and move on. It's not like anyone is saying deny necessities to any of these kids. Its the idea that there might maybe be one kid in the 11th grade who uses a tampon and prefers the male bathroom, so lets stock every bathroom from 4th grade on up with them instead of explaining to that one kid here's the situation, here's how we accommodate you and here's how you can help yourself in this situation. 
    You seem focused on the "1 kid" being the reason behind such a thing. It is really far beyond that.

    When my kids were in elementary school and their lunch money ran out they got a PBJ sandwich. So anyone eating a PBJ got the scarlet letter of "poor" or whatever that day or days until their lunch money account got replenished. I exaggerate a bit but it was always a bit embarrassing for them when that happened.

    But by taking the attitude that changes are made because it might hurt "someone's" feelings I think is a bit shallow. Changes are made because it benefits the group overall for whatever reason.

    It reminds me of visiting my son in third or fourth grade at school and having lunch with him. We all get our lunch and sit at the table and literally 2-3 kids at our table weren't eating. I didn't think much about it at first but then about 5 minutes in this cart gets wheeled out and kids line up to buy bags of popcorn, potato chips, those sugar filled barrels of fake fruit drink, etc. It was the most pathetic thing I have ever seen for kids to push aside a decent nutritious lunch for garbage. And we came to find out that the PTA was the beneficiary of the funds from this bullshit. Luckily that only lasted a year or so. And the school was so full of kids that they only had about 15 minutes to grab lunch, sit, eat, clear out so the next group could come in. I think we ate lunch at like 1030 that day which was another surprise to me.
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,549
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    The Teskiniec post highlights everything that’s wrong with the political discourse in the US right now (probably the world too). Everybody has an opinion about feminine hygiene products in boys bathrooms, whether they care or if it affects them or not. Save the people it actually affects, it’s not a real issue. But economic policy IS a real issue that affects all of us at almost every level. But it’s complex to talk about and it’s not fun or visceral unlike getting pissed about free tampons. It’s easier to have an opinion about tampons and politicians and the cable media 2ants us to talk about that because it gets eyeballs and prevents us from talking bout not sexy issues like monetary policy. 

    This leads to the culture shit and uninformed opinions and allows con artists like Trump or MAGA or Hannity or whoever to manipulate people s opinions. 
    How many people does putting tampons in bathrooms actually help though? We're talking about females who identify/transitioned into males, who aren't taking any medication that would prevent their period, and who rely on school for period products. I have no idea, but that's got to be a really low number, like 0.1% of the population who fits all that?
    So instead of telling that maybe 1 student who would actually use the tampons in the boys bathroom to go to the counseling office or nurse instead, the answer is to put tampons everywhere.
    Just seems like a huge waste of money to install and maintain dispensers when no one probably even needs it anyway. Especially starting in the 4th grade. If they were around when I was in high school I'm sure the game would be how many tampons can you tie to your friends backpack without them noticing. And they'd probably run out faster in the boys room than the girls. Just seems like a waste of money and a wrong area of focus when there's so many other things in education that deserve attention and when alternate solutions are available. 
    asking people to sacrifice their privacy isn't the answer either. If it helps even one kid feel "normal", then I'm all for it. 
    To me it just seems more like the coddling of our kids and not expecting anything from them. Some schools don't offer premium or catered lunches now because it would hurt the feelings of those on free school lunch and the Pizza Hut line doesn't qualify for free lunch, so now no kid gets Pizza Hut because it might hurt someone's feelings to watch someone else eat pizza. The amount that we hold the hands of kids is a little sad these days. We make regulations for an entire district so that 1 kid doesn't have to go to the nurse to ask for a tampon. It's part of life, I don't see it as doing any favors for kids when we coddle them so much. I had huge 1/2" thick glasses ever since I was in first grade. Should we have made every kid wear glasses so I didn't feel isolated? No, you learn to live with it and move on. It's not like anyone is saying deny necessities to any of these kids. Its the idea that there might maybe be one kid in the 11th grade who uses a tampon and prefers the male bathroom, so lets stock every bathroom from 4th grade on up with them instead of explaining to that one kid here's the situation, here's how we accommodate you and here's how you can help yourself in this situation. 
    You seem focused on the "1 kid" being the reason behind such a thing. It is really far beyond that.

    When my kids were in elementary school and their lunch money ran out they got a PBJ sandwich. So anyone eating a PBJ got the scarlet letter of "poor" or whatever that day or days until their lunch money account got replenished. I exaggerate a bit but it was always a bit embarrassing for them when that happened.

    But by taking the attitude that changes are made because it might hurt "someone's" feelings I think is a bit shallow. Changes are made because it benefits the group overall for whatever reason.

    It reminds me of visiting my son in third or fourth grade at school and having lunch with him. We all get our lunch and sit at the table and literally 2-3 kids at our table weren't eating. I didn't think much about it at first but then about 5 minutes in this cart gets wheeled out and kids line up to buy bags of popcorn, potato chips, those sugar filled barrels of fake fruit drink, etc. It was the most pathetic thing I have ever seen for kids to push aside a decent nutritious lunch for garbage. And we came to find out that the PTA was the beneficiary of the funds from this bullshit. Luckily that only lasted a year or so. And the school was so full of kids that they only had about 15 minutes to grab lunch, sit, eat, clear out so the next group could come in. I think we ate lunch at like 1030 that day which was another surprise to me.
    Imagine kids eating kale? The horrors! In a nation where approximately 42-46% of the population is considered obese.
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  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    The Teskiniec post highlights everything that’s wrong with the political discourse in the US right now (probably the world too). Everybody has an opinion about feminine hygiene products in boys bathrooms, whether they care or if it affects them or not. Save the people it actually affects, it’s not a real issue. But economic policy IS a real issue that affects all of us at almost every level. But it’s complex to talk about and it’s not fun or visceral unlike getting pissed about free tampons. It’s easier to have an opinion about tampons and politicians and the cable media 2ants us to talk about that because it gets eyeballs and prevents us from talking bout not sexy issues like monetary policy. 

    This leads to the culture shit and uninformed opinions and allows con artists like Trump or MAGA or Hannity or whoever to manipulate people s opinions. 
    How many people does putting tampons in bathrooms actually help though? We're talking about females who identify/transitioned into males, who aren't taking any medication that would prevent their period, and who rely on school for period products. I have no idea, but that's got to be a really low number, like 0.1% of the population who fits all that?
    So instead of telling that maybe 1 student who would actually use the tampons in the boys bathroom to go to the counseling office or nurse instead, the answer is to put tampons everywhere.
    Just seems like a huge waste of money to install and maintain dispensers when no one probably even needs it anyway. Especially starting in the 4th grade. If they were around when I was in high school I'm sure the game would be how many tampons can you tie to your friends backpack without them noticing. And they'd probably run out faster in the boys room than the girls. Just seems like a waste of money and a wrong area of focus when there's so many other things in education that deserve attention and when alternate solutions are available. 
    asking people to sacrifice their privacy isn't the answer either. If it helps even one kid feel "normal", then I'm all for it. 
    To me it just seems more like the coddling of our kids and not expecting anything from them. Some schools don't offer premium or catered lunches now because it would hurt the feelings of those on free school lunch and the Pizza Hut line doesn't qualify for free lunch, so now no kid gets Pizza Hut because it might hurt someone's feelings to watch someone else eat pizza. The amount that we hold the hands of kids is a little sad these days. We make regulations for an entire district so that 1 kid doesn't have to go to the nurse to ask for a tampon. It's part of life, I don't see it as doing any favors for kids when we coddle them so much. I had huge 1/2" thick glasses ever since I was in first grade. Should we have made every kid wear glasses so I didn't feel isolated? No, you learn to live with it and move on. It's not like anyone is saying deny necessities to any of these kids. Its the idea that there might maybe be one kid in the 11th grade who uses a tampon and prefers the male bathroom, so lets stock every bathroom from 4th grade on up with them instead of explaining to that one kid here's the situation, here's how we accommodate you and here's how you can help yourself in this situation. 
    You seem focused on the "1 kid" being the reason behind such a thing. It is really far beyond that.

    When my kids were in elementary school and their lunch money ran out they got a PBJ sandwich. So anyone eating a PBJ got the scarlet letter of "poor" or whatever that day or days until their lunch money account got replenished. I exaggerate a bit but it was always a bit embarrassing for them when that happened.

    But by taking the attitude that changes are made because it might hurt "someone's" feelings I think is a bit shallow. Changes are made because it benefits the group overall for whatever reason.

    It reminds me of visiting my son in third or fourth grade at school and having lunch with him. We all get our lunch and sit at the table and literally 2-3 kids at our table weren't eating. I didn't think much about it at first but then about 5 minutes in this cart gets wheeled out and kids line up to buy bags of popcorn, potato chips, those sugar filled barrels of fake fruit drink, etc. It was the most pathetic thing I have ever seen for kids to push aside a decent nutritious lunch for garbage. And we came to find out that the PTA was the beneficiary of the funds from this bullshit. Luckily that only lasted a year or so. And the school was so full of kids that they only had about 15 minutes to grab lunch, sit, eat, clear out so the next group could come in. I think we ate lunch at like 1030 that day which was another surprise to me.
    Imagine kids eating kale? The horrors! In a nation where approximately 42-46% of the population is considered obese.
    Kale goes in the trash 95% of the time. Kids aren’t eating that. 

    I remember the Project 2025 doomsdayers posting Trump wants to eliminate free lunches in schools as a talking point…. Well free lunches ended today at my kids school. I guess they know Trump is going to win and just started that part early. 🤷🏻‍♂️
  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
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    teskeinc said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    The Teskiniec post highlights everything that’s wrong with the political discourse in the US right now (probably the world too). Everybody has an opinion about feminine hygiene products in boys bathrooms, whether they care or if it affects them or not. Save the people it actually affects, it’s not a real issue. But economic policy IS a real issue that affects all of us at almost every level. But it’s complex to talk about and it’s not fun or visceral unlike getting pissed about free tampons. It’s easier to have an opinion about tampons and politicians and the cable media 2ants us to talk about that because it gets eyeballs and prevents us from talking bout not sexy issues like monetary policy. 

    This leads to the culture shit and uninformed opinions and allows con artists like Trump or MAGA or Hannity or whoever to manipulate people s opinions. 
    How many people does putting tampons in bathrooms actually help though? We're talking about females who identify/transitioned into males, who aren't taking any medication that would prevent their period, and who rely on school for period products. I have no idea, but that's got to be a really low number, like 0.1% of the population who fits all that?
    So instead of telling that maybe 1 student who would actually use the tampons in the boys bathroom to go to the counseling office or nurse instead, the answer is to put tampons everywhere.
    Just seems like a huge waste of money to install and maintain dispensers when no one probably even needs it anyway. Especially starting in the 4th grade. If they were around when I was in high school I'm sure the game would be how many tampons can you tie to your friends backpack without them noticing. And they'd probably run out faster in the boys room than the girls. Just seems like a waste of money and a wrong area of focus when there's so many other things in education that deserve attention and when alternate solutions are available. 
    asking people to sacrifice their privacy isn't the answer either. If it helps even one kid feel "normal", then I'm all for it. 
    To me it just seems more like the coddling of our kids and not expecting anything from them. Some schools don't offer premium or catered lunches now because it would hurt the feelings of those on free school lunch and the Pizza Hut line doesn't qualify for free lunch, so now no kid gets Pizza Hut because it might hurt someone's feelings to watch someone else eat pizza. The amount that we hold the hands of kids is a little sad these days. We make regulations for an entire district so that 1 kid doesn't have to go to the nurse to ask for a tampon. It's part of life, I don't see it as doing any favors for kids when we coddle them so much. I had huge 1/2" thick glasses ever since I was in first grade. Should we have made every kid wear glasses so I didn't feel isolated? No, you learn to live with it and move on. It's not like anyone is saying deny necessities to any of these kids. Its the idea that there might maybe be one kid in the 11th grade who uses a tampon and prefers the male bathroom, so lets stock every bathroom from 4th grade on up with them instead of explaining to that one kid here's the situation, here's how we accommodate you and here's how you can help yourself in this situation. 
    You seem focused on the "1 kid" being the reason behind such a thing. It is really far beyond that.

    When my kids were in elementary school and their lunch money ran out they got a PBJ sandwich. So anyone eating a PBJ got the scarlet letter of "poor" or whatever that day or days until their lunch money account got replenished. I exaggerate a bit but it was always a bit embarrassing for them when that happened.

    But by taking the attitude that changes are made because it might hurt "someone's" feelings I think is a bit shallow. Changes are made because it benefits the group overall for whatever reason.

    It reminds me of visiting my son in third or fourth grade at school and having lunch with him. We all get our lunch and sit at the table and literally 2-3 kids at our table weren't eating. I didn't think much about it at first but then about 5 minutes in this cart gets wheeled out and kids line up to buy bags of popcorn, potato chips, those sugar filled barrels of fake fruit drink, etc. It was the most pathetic thing I have ever seen for kids to push aside a decent nutritious lunch for garbage. And we came to find out that the PTA was the beneficiary of the funds from this bullshit. Luckily that only lasted a year or so. And the school was so full of kids that they only had about 15 minutes to grab lunch, sit, eat, clear out so the next group could come in. I think we ate lunch at like 1030 that day which was another surprise to me.
    Imagine kids eating kale? The horrors! In a nation where approximately 42-46% of the population is considered obese.
    Kale goes in the trash 95% of the time. Kids aren’t eating that. 

    I remember the Project 2025 doomsdayers posting Trump wants to eliminate free lunches in schools as a talking point…. Well free lunches ended today at my kids school. I guess they know Trump is going to win and just started that part early. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    95% of the time?  Did Alex Jones provide you that number?
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  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    teskeinc said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    The Teskiniec post highlights everything that’s wrong with the political discourse in the US right now (probably the world too). Everybody has an opinion about feminine hygiene products in boys bathrooms, whether they care or if it affects them or not. Save the people it actually affects, it’s not a real issue. But economic policy IS a real issue that affects all of us at almost every level. But it’s complex to talk about and it’s not fun or visceral unlike getting pissed about free tampons. It’s easier to have an opinion about tampons and politicians and the cable media 2ants us to talk about that because it gets eyeballs and prevents us from talking bout not sexy issues like monetary policy. 

    This leads to the culture shit and uninformed opinions and allows con artists like Trump or MAGA or Hannity or whoever to manipulate people s opinions. 
    How many people does putting tampons in bathrooms actually help though? We're talking about females who identify/transitioned into males, who aren't taking any medication that would prevent their period, and who rely on school for period products. I have no idea, but that's got to be a really low number, like 0.1% of the population who fits all that?
    So instead of telling that maybe 1 student who would actually use the tampons in the boys bathroom to go to the counseling office or nurse instead, the answer is to put tampons everywhere.
    Just seems like a huge waste of money to install and maintain dispensers when no one probably even needs it anyway. Especially starting in the 4th grade. If they were around when I was in high school I'm sure the game would be how many tampons can you tie to your friends backpack without them noticing. And they'd probably run out faster in the boys room than the girls. Just seems like a waste of money and a wrong area of focus when there's so many other things in education that deserve attention and when alternate solutions are available. 
    asking people to sacrifice their privacy isn't the answer either. If it helps even one kid feel "normal", then I'm all for it. 
    To me it just seems more like the coddling of our kids and not expecting anything from them. Some schools don't offer premium or catered lunches now because it would hurt the feelings of those on free school lunch and the Pizza Hut line doesn't qualify for free lunch, so now no kid gets Pizza Hut because it might hurt someone's feelings to watch someone else eat pizza. The amount that we hold the hands of kids is a little sad these days. We make regulations for an entire district so that 1 kid doesn't have to go to the nurse to ask for a tampon. It's part of life, I don't see it as doing any favors for kids when we coddle them so much. I had huge 1/2" thick glasses ever since I was in first grade. Should we have made every kid wear glasses so I didn't feel isolated? No, you learn to live with it and move on. It's not like anyone is saying deny necessities to any of these kids. Its the idea that there might maybe be one kid in the 11th grade who uses a tampon and prefers the male bathroom, so lets stock every bathroom from 4th grade on up with them instead of explaining to that one kid here's the situation, here's how we accommodate you and here's how you can help yourself in this situation. 
    You seem focused on the "1 kid" being the reason behind such a thing. It is really far beyond that.

    When my kids were in elementary school and their lunch money ran out they got a PBJ sandwich. So anyone eating a PBJ got the scarlet letter of "poor" or whatever that day or days until their lunch money account got replenished. I exaggerate a bit but it was always a bit embarrassing for them when that happened.

    But by taking the attitude that changes are made because it might hurt "someone's" feelings I think is a bit shallow. Changes are made because it benefits the group overall for whatever reason.

    It reminds me of visiting my son in third or fourth grade at school and having lunch with him. We all get our lunch and sit at the table and literally 2-3 kids at our table weren't eating. I didn't think much about it at first but then about 5 minutes in this cart gets wheeled out and kids line up to buy bags of popcorn, potato chips, those sugar filled barrels of fake fruit drink, etc. It was the most pathetic thing I have ever seen for kids to push aside a decent nutritious lunch for garbage. And we came to find out that the PTA was the beneficiary of the funds from this bullshit. Luckily that only lasted a year or so. And the school was so full of kids that they only had about 15 minutes to grab lunch, sit, eat, clear out so the next group could come in. I think we ate lunch at like 1030 that day which was another surprise to me.
    Imagine kids eating kale? The horrors! In a nation where approximately 42-46% of the population is considered obese.
    Kale goes in the trash 95% of the time. Kids aren’t eating that. 

    I remember the Project 2025 doomsdayers posting Trump wants to eliminate free lunches in schools as a talking point…. Well free lunches ended today at my kids school. I guess they know Trump is going to win and just started that part early. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    95% of the time?  Did Alex Jones provide you that number?
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  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    edited August 2024
    Pete Buttigieg
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    The Teskiniec post highlights everything that’s wrong with the political discourse in the US right now (probably the world too). Everybody has an opinion about feminine hygiene products in boys bathrooms, whether they care or if it affects them or not. Save the people it actually affects, it’s not a real issue. But economic policy IS a real issue that affects all of us at almost every level. But it’s complex to talk about and it’s not fun or visceral unlike getting pissed about free tampons. It’s easier to have an opinion about tampons and politicians and the cable media 2ants us to talk about that because it gets eyeballs and prevents us from talking bout not sexy issues like monetary policy. 

    This leads to the culture shit and uninformed opinions and allows con artists like Trump or MAGA or Hannity or whoever to manipulate people s opinions. 
    How many people does putting tampons in bathrooms actually help though? We're talking about females who identify/transitioned into males, who aren't taking any medication that would prevent their period, and who rely on school for period products. I have no idea, but that's got to be a really low number, like 0.1% of the population who fits all that?
    So instead of telling that maybe 1 student who would actually use the tampons in the boys bathroom to go to the counseling office or nurse instead, the answer is to put tampons everywhere.
    Just seems like a huge waste of money to install and maintain dispensers when no one probably even needs it anyway. Especially starting in the 4th grade. If they were around when I was in high school I'm sure the game would be how many tampons can you tie to your friends backpack without them noticing. And they'd probably run out faster in the boys room than the girls. Just seems like a waste of money and a wrong area of focus when there's so many other things in education that deserve attention and when alternate solutions are available. 
    asking people to sacrifice their privacy isn't the answer either. If it helps even one kid feel "normal", then I'm all for it. 
    To me it just seems more like the coddling of our kids and not expecting anything from them. Some schools don't offer premium or catered lunches now because it would hurt the feelings of those on free school lunch and the Pizza Hut line doesn't qualify for free lunch, so now no kid gets Pizza Hut because it might hurt someone's feelings to watch someone else eat pizza. The amount that we hold the hands of kids is a little sad these days. We make regulations for an entire district so that 1 kid doesn't have to go to the nurse to ask for a tampon. It's part of life, I don't see it as doing any favors for kids when we coddle them so much. I had huge 1/2" thick glasses ever since I was in first grade. Should we have made every kid wear glasses so I didn't feel isolated? No, you learn to live with it and move on. It's not like anyone is saying deny necessities to any of these kids. Its the idea that there might maybe be one kid in the 11th grade who uses a tampon and prefers the male bathroom, so lets stock every bathroom from 4th grade on up with them instead of explaining to that one kid here's the situation, here's how we accommodate you and here's how you can help yourself in this situation. 
    You seem focused on the "1 kid" being the reason behind such a thing. It is really far beyond that.

    When my kids were in elementary school and their lunch money ran out they got a PBJ sandwich. So anyone eating a PBJ got the scarlet letter of "poor" or whatever that day or days until their lunch money account got replenished. I exaggerate a bit but it was always a bit embarrassing for them when that happened.

    But by taking the attitude that changes are made because it might hurt "someone's" feelings I think is a bit shallow. Changes are made because it benefits the group overall for whatever reason.

    It reminds me of visiting my son in third or fourth grade at school and having lunch with him. We all get our lunch and sit at the table and literally 2-3 kids at our table weren't eating. I didn't think much about it at first but then about 5 minutes in this cart gets wheeled out and kids line up to buy bags of popcorn, potato chips, those sugar filled barrels of fake fruit drink, etc. It was the most pathetic thing I have ever seen for kids to push aside a decent nutritious lunch for garbage. And we came to find out that the PTA was the beneficiary of the funds from this bullshit. Luckily that only lasted a year or so. And the school was so full of kids that they only had about 15 minutes to grab lunch, sit, eat, clear out so the next group could come in. I think we ate lunch at like 1030 that day which was another surprise to me.
    Imagine kids eating kale? The horrors! In a nation where approximately 42-46% of the population is considered obese.
    Kale goes in the trash 95% of the time. Kids aren’t eating that. 

    I remember the Project 2025 doomsdayers posting Trump wants to eliminate free lunches in schools as a talking point…. Well free lunches ended today at my kids school. I guess they know Trump is going to win and just started that part early. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    95% of the time?  Did Alex Jones provide you that number?
    Hey we got a new one! Welcome! And a bootyjudge fan!

    Not new.  I've been here.  Do you have too much time on your hands?  You really seem to enjoy trolling this thread and other liberal threads waaaaay too much.
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  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    The Teskiniec post highlights everything that’s wrong with the political discourse in the US right now (probably the world too). Everybody has an opinion about feminine hygiene products in boys bathrooms, whether they care or if it affects them or not. Save the people it actually affects, it’s not a real issue. But economic policy IS a real issue that affects all of us at almost every level. But it’s complex to talk about and it’s not fun or visceral unlike getting pissed about free tampons. It’s easier to have an opinion about tampons and politicians and the cable media 2ants us to talk about that because it gets eyeballs and prevents us from talking bout not sexy issues like monetary policy. 

    This leads to the culture shit and uninformed opinions and allows con artists like Trump or MAGA or Hannity or whoever to manipulate people s opinions. 
    How many people does putting tampons in bathrooms actually help though? We're talking about females who identify/transitioned into males, who aren't taking any medication that would prevent their period, and who rely on school for period products. I have no idea, but that's got to be a really low number, like 0.1% of the population who fits all that?
    So instead of telling that maybe 1 student who would actually use the tampons in the boys bathroom to go to the counseling office or nurse instead, the answer is to put tampons everywhere.
    Just seems like a huge waste of money to install and maintain dispensers when no one probably even needs it anyway. Especially starting in the 4th grade. If they were around when I was in high school I'm sure the game would be how many tampons can you tie to your friends backpack without them noticing. And they'd probably run out faster in the boys room than the girls. Just seems like a waste of money and a wrong area of focus when there's so many other things in education that deserve attention and when alternate solutions are available. 
    asking people to sacrifice their privacy isn't the answer either. If it helps even one kid feel "normal", then I'm all for it. 
    To me it just seems more like the coddling of our kids and not expecting anything from them. Some schools don't offer premium or catered lunches now because it would hurt the feelings of those on free school lunch and the Pizza Hut line doesn't qualify for free lunch, so now no kid gets Pizza Hut because it might hurt someone's feelings to watch someone else eat pizza. The amount that we hold the hands of kids is a little sad these days. We make regulations for an entire district so that 1 kid doesn't have to go to the nurse to ask for a tampon. It's part of life, I don't see it as doing any favors for kids when we coddle them so much. I had huge 1/2" thick glasses ever since I was in first grade. Should we have made every kid wear glasses so I didn't feel isolated? No, you learn to live with it and move on. It's not like anyone is saying deny necessities to any of these kids. Its the idea that there might maybe be one kid in the 11th grade who uses a tampon and prefers the male bathroom, so lets stock every bathroom from 4th grade on up with them instead of explaining to that one kid here's the situation, here's how we accommodate you and here's how you can help yourself in this situation. 
    You seem focused on the "1 kid" being the reason behind such a thing. It is really far beyond that.

    When my kids were in elementary school and their lunch money ran out they got a PBJ sandwich. So anyone eating a PBJ got the scarlet letter of "poor" or whatever that day or days until their lunch money account got replenished. I exaggerate a bit but it was always a bit embarrassing for them when that happened.

    But by taking the attitude that changes are made because it might hurt "someone's" feelings I think is a bit shallow. Changes are made because it benefits the group overall for whatever reason.

    It reminds me of visiting my son in third or fourth grade at school and having lunch with him. We all get our lunch and sit at the table and literally 2-3 kids at our table weren't eating. I didn't think much about it at first but then about 5 minutes in this cart gets wheeled out and kids line up to buy bags of popcorn, potato chips, those sugar filled barrels of fake fruit drink, etc. It was the most pathetic thing I have ever seen for kids to push aside a decent nutritious lunch for garbage. And we came to find out that the PTA was the beneficiary of the funds from this bullshit. Luckily that only lasted a year or so. And the school was so full of kids that they only had about 15 minutes to grab lunch, sit, eat, clear out so the next group could come in. I think we ate lunch at like 1030 that day which was another surprise to me.
    Imagine kids eating kale? The horrors! In a nation where approximately 42-46% of the population is considered obese.
    Kale goes in the trash 95% of the time. Kids aren’t eating that. 

    I remember the Project 2025 doomsdayers posting Trump wants to eliminate free lunches in schools as a talking point…. Well free lunches ended today at my kids school. I guess they know Trump is going to win and just started that part early. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    95% of the time?  Did Alex Jones provide you that number?
    Hey we got a new one! Welcome! And a bootyjudge fan!

    Not new.  I've been here.  Do you have too much time on your hands?  You really seem to enjoy trolling this thread and other liberal threads waaaaay too much.
    Way too much time. But very fun! Watching liberals trying to defend to radical left liberals 4 pages of Tampon Tim’s bathroom policy. 


  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
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    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    The Teskiniec post highlights everything that’s wrong with the political discourse in the US right now (probably the world too). Everybody has an opinion about feminine hygiene products in boys bathrooms, whether they care or if it affects them or not. Save the people it actually affects, it’s not a real issue. But economic policy IS a real issue that affects all of us at almost every level. But it’s complex to talk about and it’s not fun or visceral unlike getting pissed about free tampons. It’s easier to have an opinion about tampons and politicians and the cable media 2ants us to talk about that because it gets eyeballs and prevents us from talking bout not sexy issues like monetary policy. 

    This leads to the culture shit and uninformed opinions and allows con artists like Trump or MAGA or Hannity or whoever to manipulate people s opinions. 
    How many people does putting tampons in bathrooms actually help though? We're talking about females who identify/transitioned into males, who aren't taking any medication that would prevent their period, and who rely on school for period products. I have no idea, but that's got to be a really low number, like 0.1% of the population who fits all that?
    So instead of telling that maybe 1 student who would actually use the tampons in the boys bathroom to go to the counseling office or nurse instead, the answer is to put tampons everywhere.
    Just seems like a huge waste of money to install and maintain dispensers when no one probably even needs it anyway. Especially starting in the 4th grade. If they were around when I was in high school I'm sure the game would be how many tampons can you tie to your friends backpack without them noticing. And they'd probably run out faster in the boys room than the girls. Just seems like a waste of money and a wrong area of focus when there's so many other things in education that deserve attention and when alternate solutions are available. 
    asking people to sacrifice their privacy isn't the answer either. If it helps even one kid feel "normal", then I'm all for it. 
    To me it just seems more like the coddling of our kids and not expecting anything from them. Some schools don't offer premium or catered lunches now because it would hurt the feelings of those on free school lunch and the Pizza Hut line doesn't qualify for free lunch, so now no kid gets Pizza Hut because it might hurt someone's feelings to watch someone else eat pizza. The amount that we hold the hands of kids is a little sad these days. We make regulations for an entire district so that 1 kid doesn't have to go to the nurse to ask for a tampon. It's part of life, I don't see it as doing any favors for kids when we coddle them so much. I had huge 1/2" thick glasses ever since I was in first grade. Should we have made every kid wear glasses so I didn't feel isolated? No, you learn to live with it and move on. It's not like anyone is saying deny necessities to any of these kids. Its the idea that there might maybe be one kid in the 11th grade who uses a tampon and prefers the male bathroom, so lets stock every bathroom from 4th grade on up with them instead of explaining to that one kid here's the situation, here's how we accommodate you and here's how you can help yourself in this situation. 
    You seem focused on the "1 kid" being the reason behind such a thing. It is really far beyond that.

    When my kids were in elementary school and their lunch money ran out they got a PBJ sandwich. So anyone eating a PBJ got the scarlet letter of "poor" or whatever that day or days until their lunch money account got replenished. I exaggerate a bit but it was always a bit embarrassing for them when that happened.

    But by taking the attitude that changes are made because it might hurt "someone's" feelings I think is a bit shallow. Changes are made because it benefits the group overall for whatever reason.

    It reminds me of visiting my son in third or fourth grade at school and having lunch with him. We all get our lunch and sit at the table and literally 2-3 kids at our table weren't eating. I didn't think much about it at first but then about 5 minutes in this cart gets wheeled out and kids line up to buy bags of popcorn, potato chips, those sugar filled barrels of fake fruit drink, etc. It was the most pathetic thing I have ever seen for kids to push aside a decent nutritious lunch for garbage. And we came to find out that the PTA was the beneficiary of the funds from this bullshit. Luckily that only lasted a year or so. And the school was so full of kids that they only had about 15 minutes to grab lunch, sit, eat, clear out so the next group could come in. I think we ate lunch at like 1030 that day which was another surprise to me.
    Imagine kids eating kale? The horrors! In a nation where approximately 42-46% of the population is considered obese.
    Kale goes in the trash 95% of the time. Kids aren’t eating that. 

    I remember the Project 2025 doomsdayers posting Trump wants to eliminate free lunches in schools as a talking point…. Well free lunches ended today at my kids school. I guess they know Trump is going to win and just started that part early. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    95% of the time?  Did Alex Jones provide you that number?
    Hey we got a new one! Welcome! And a bootyjudge fan!

    Not new.  I've been here.  Do you have too much time on your hands?  You really seem to enjoy trolling this thread and other liberal threads waaaaay too much.
    Way too much time. But very fun! Watching liberals trying to defend to radical left liberals 4 pages of Tampon Tim’s bathroom policy. 



    You're doing more commenting than watching.  I'm not seeing what's so funny about the points and opinions being made.  At least they aren't making up numbers out of thin air.  There's nothing radical about Tim Walz or Kamala Harris.  So keep on fear mongering.
    I wish I was a sacrifice, but somehow still lived on.