** KAMALA HARRIS FOR PRESIDENT -PART DEUX **

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,310
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,366
    mickeyrat said:
    Wow! That’s just not right. Said a few million white, evangelical males.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,310

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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,225
    teskeinc said:
    Yeah I figured no one could answer it. Never mind. Much like the DNC, this forum is about 10% of ideas and policy and 90% Orange Man Bad. Carry on with the drivel. It’s Tampon Tim’s night to shine!
    I mean, the states with the highest taxes are the best states to live in. It’s pretty cut and dry. 
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,784
    edited August 22
    teskeinc said:
    Yeah I figured no one could answer it. Never mind. Much like the DNC, this forum is about 10% of ideas and policy and 90% Orange Man Bad. Carry on with the drivel. It’s Tampon Tim’s night to shine!
    I mean, the states with the highest taxes are the best states to live in. It’s pretty cut and dry. 
    More people are moving out of California and NY to states like Texas and Florida, States with lower taxes and more affordable housing among other things. If it’s so great wouldn’t that be opposite? (I’m talking citizens, not the 10 million illegals that came in last 3.5 years)
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,225
    edited August 22
    Kids graduate and move out of public schools. People retire.. People want to stretch their dollar so they sell their house for lots of money and move somewhere cheaper so they can enjoy their money before they die. 
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    Yeah I figured no one could answer it. Never mind. Much like the DNC, this forum is about 10% of ideas and policy and 90% Orange Man Bad. Carry on with the drivel. It’s Tampon Tim’s night to shine!
    I mean, the states with the highest taxes are the best states to live in. It’s pretty cut and dry. 
    More people are moving out of California and NY to states like Texas and Florida, States with lower taxes and more affordable housing among other things. If it’s so great wouldn’t that be opposite? (I’m talking citizens, not the 10 million illegals that came in last 3.5 years)
    Quality of life indicator data is out there and there’s plenty of lists ranking states 1 - 50. Check them out and report back. 
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,225
    edited August 22
    The baby boomers (the largest generation existing) are getting old and moving on in one way or another. If they are alive they don’t want to drive in cold weather or they want to live somewhere cheaper or live somewhere more age appropriate. I mean, it’s pretty obvious. 
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,784
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    Yeah I figured no one could answer it. Never mind. Much like the DNC, this forum is about 10% of ideas and policy and 90% Orange Man Bad. Carry on with the drivel. It’s Tampon Tim’s night to shine!
    I mean, the states with the highest taxes are the best states to live in. It’s pretty cut and dry. 
    More people are moving out of California and NY to states like Texas and Florida, States with lower taxes and more affordable housing among other things. If it’s so great wouldn’t that be opposite? (I’m talking citizens, not the 10 million illegals that came in last 3.5 years)
    Quality of life indicator data is out there and there’s plenty of lists ranking states 1 - 50. Check them out and report back. 
    Utah, Vermont, Maine mostly. Still not the question I asked. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,366
    teskeinc said:
    So one of the DNC convention themes other than talking about Trump 90% of the time seems to be lowering taxes for Americans.

    How can Dems say that is important when states like California and NY, large Democratic strongholds for awhile now, have the highest tax rates in the country? Sales, Income and Property Tax. Is there someone here that lives in either state that can shine a light on why they are taxed at a way higher rate and what benefits do they receive compared to someone in a neighboring state that justifies that much of a higher rate.
    Are you basing your question and using CA and NY as examples because you’re combining sales, income and property tax rates to declare them as “having the highest tax rates in the country?” Or are you looking at each tax rate, by type, individually? Because it makes a difference. I don’t expect you to clarify your question because “black woman bad.”
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    Yeah I figured no one could answer it. Never mind. Much like the DNC, this forum is about 10% of ideas and policy and 90% Orange Man Bad. Carry on with the drivel. It’s Tampon Tim’s night to shine!
    I mean, the states with the highest taxes are the best states to live in. It’s pretty cut and dry. 
    More people are moving out of California and NY to states like Texas and Florida, States with lower taxes and more affordable housing among other things. If it’s so great wouldn’t that be opposite? (I’m talking citizens, not the 10 million illegals that came in last 3.5 years)
    Quality of life indicator data is out there and there’s plenty of lists ranking states 1 - 50. Check them out and report back. 
    Utah, Vermont, Maine mostly. Still not the question I asked. 
    Tim answered it. You also saw that Florida and Texas are far down on several lists. 
  • GlowGirlGlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 11,147
    FiveBelow said:
    pjl44 said:
    I never heard of IUI until yesterday. 
    Neither had I and after some quick googling it seems like an extremely stupid thing to try to bust the guy over
    Most people have never heard of it unless you have to go through it. That is why it's easier for people who do go through it to just say IVF since it's very similar and to avoid having to explain the differences.

    It's an extremely difficult and costly process and it takes a toll on a marriage....so most people do not want to take the time to go into details about that experience.

    Fuck JD Vance. 
    2 miscarriages, multiple Clomid cycles, 3 failed IUI (1 resulting in a ectopic pregnancy), and 3 failed IVF (including preimplantation genetic testing) over the course of 5-6 years was our infertility experience. The hundreds of shots I gave my wife was less than enjoyable, and seeing her go through everything she did with nothing to show for it was heartbreaking. It truly consumed every part of her being. While I understand the toll infertility can take, for us, it bonded us more than we thought possible. Nobody we knew could come close to relating to our experience. After deciding to take a break for our sanity, we opted for a puppy, and ended up conceiving on our own 4 months later. Baby #2 was a total surprise, my wife was almost in her second trimester when we found out. Wouldn't change a thing, it's our story, and if it gives someone hope, we're more than happy to share it.
    wow that's great

    I have a friend that went through a similar problem (no IUI or IVF I don't believe...I think they weren't sure it could work) and they adopted a baby from China. A year or so after the adoption she got pregnant. 
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,784
    teskeinc said:
    So one of the DNC convention themes other than talking about Trump 90% of the time seems to be lowering taxes for Americans.

    How can Dems say that is important when states like California and NY, large Democratic strongholds for awhile now, have the highest tax rates in the country? Sales, Income and Property Tax. Is there someone here that lives in either state that can shine a light on why they are taxed at a way higher rate and what benefits do they receive compared to someone in a neighboring state that justifies that much of a higher rate.
    Are you basing your question and using CA and NY as examples because you’re combining sales, income and property tax rates to declare them as “having the highest tax rates in the country?” Or are you looking at each tax rate, by type, individually? Because it makes a difference. I don’t expect you to clarify your question because “black woman bad.”
    Just found it odd that a candidate with no platform to speak of and short on policy has surrogates speaking on lowering taxes but taxes haven’t been lowered over 3.5 years. And the states with the overall highest taxes are states that have voted Democrat for a long time.What are they planning on changing?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    So one of the DNC convention themes other than talking about Trump 90% of the time seems to be lowering taxes for Americans.

    How can Dems say that is important when states like California and NY, large Democratic strongholds for awhile now, have the highest tax rates in the country? Sales, Income and Property Tax. Is there someone here that lives in either state that can shine a light on why they are taxed at a way higher rate and what benefits do they receive compared to someone in a neighboring state that justifies that much of a higher rate.
    Are you basing your question and using CA and NY as examples because you’re combining sales, income and property tax rates to declare them as “having the highest tax rates in the country?” Or are you looking at each tax rate, by type, individually? Because it makes a difference. I don’t expect you to clarify your question because “black woman bad.”
    Just found it odd that a candidate with no platform to speak of and short on policy has surrogates speaking on lowering taxes but taxes haven’t been lowered over 3.5 years. And the states with the overall highest taxes are states that have voted Democrat for a long time.What are they planning on changing?
    you guys hold the house. hard to get anything done when the gop would rather self immolate than raise a tax, or cut them to help the middle and lower class. just the super wealthy.
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,225
    edited August 22
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    So one of the DNC convention themes other than talking about Trump 90% of the time seems to be lowering taxes for Americans.

    How can Dems say that is important when states like California and NY, large Democratic strongholds for awhile now, have the highest tax rates in the country? Sales, Income and Property Tax. Is there someone here that lives in either state that can shine a light on why they are taxed at a way higher rate and what benefits do they receive compared to someone in a neighboring state that justifies that much of a higher rate.
    Are you basing your question and using CA and NY as examples because you’re combining sales, income and property tax rates to declare them as “having the highest tax rates in the country?” Or are you looking at each tax rate, by type, individually? Because it makes a difference. I don’t expect you to clarify your question because “black woman bad.”
    Just found it odd that a candidate with no platform to speak of and short on policy
    I think you can stop with this disingenuous stuff. It’s clear she’s gonna extend many if not most of the Biden policies and agendas. Yes, it would be nice if they were outlined on the website but also, shit changes because life changes day to day. Also, the point of the DNC is choose a party platform -so relax. Let’s revisit this if nothing is up in a week or 2. 

    And positioning oneself as not the other person running, is a legitimate position. Because as much as you have railed against people voting for a ‘best friend president’ or ‘vibes’ or whatever, the bottom line is, that’s how most people vote.  
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,366
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    So one of the DNC convention themes other than talking about Trump 90% of the time seems to be lowering taxes for Americans.

    How can Dems say that is important when states like California and NY, large Democratic strongholds for awhile now, have the highest tax rates in the country? Sales, Income and Property Tax. Is there someone here that lives in either state that can shine a light on why they are taxed at a way higher rate and what benefits do they receive compared to someone in a neighboring state that justifies that much of a higher rate.
    Are you basing your question and using CA and NY as examples because you’re combining sales, income and property tax rates to declare them as “having the highest tax rates in the country?” Or are you looking at each tax rate, by type, individually? Because it makes a difference. I don’t expect you to clarify your question because “black woman bad.”
    Just found it odd that a candidate with no platform to speak of and short on policy has surrogates speaking on lowering taxes but taxes haven’t been lowered over 3.5 years. And the states with the overall highest taxes are states that have voted Democrat for a long time.What are they planning on changing?
    You didn’t clarify your question. You avoided it. And your question, without clarification, is bunk right out of the gate because CA and NY aren’t the highest, depending on many factors for all three categories of taxes you mentioned. Disingenuousness is the order of the day.
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    Walz is really good at this. 
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,784
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    So one of the DNC convention themes other than talking about Trump 90% of the time seems to be lowering taxes for Americans.

    How can Dems say that is important when states like California and NY, large Democratic strongholds for awhile now, have the highest tax rates in the country? Sales, Income and Property Tax. Is there someone here that lives in either state that can shine a light on why they are taxed at a way higher rate and what benefits do they receive compared to someone in a neighboring state that justifies that much of a higher rate.
    Are you basing your question and using CA and NY as examples because you’re combining sales, income and property tax rates to declare them as “having the highest tax rates in the country?” Or are you looking at each tax rate, by type, individually? Because it makes a difference. I don’t expect you to clarify your question because “black woman bad.”
    Just found it odd that a candidate with no platform to speak of and short on policy has surrogates speaking on lowering taxes but taxes haven’t been lowered over 3.5 years. And the states with the overall highest taxes are states that have voted Democrat for a long time.What are they planning on changing?
    You didn’t clarify your question. You avoided it. And your question, without clarification, is bunk right out of the gate because CA and NY aren’t the highest, depending on many factors for all three categories of taxes you mentioned. Disingenuousness is the order of the day.
    I’ll make it easier for you to understand. Why are taxes generally higher in states that have been controlled by the Democratic leaders for decades(California, NY, New Jersey, Illinois). What benefits do citizens of these states have over citizens in states with lower taxes or no state income tax at all (Texas, Florida, Nevada).


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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,784
    Would you say that the majority of those top 10 would be Blue states? So what would make someone believe that Democrats are looking to lower anyone’s taxes. Or are they just being disingenuous?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    i propose the blue states absolutely stop subsidizing the red states. you know, the broke ass states that receive more federal dollars than they take in.

    they want to vote red and have no taxes, they can fend for themselves when a hurricane hits.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,366
    teskeinc said:
    Would you say that the majority of those top 10 would be Blue states? So what would make someone believe that Democrats are looking to lower anyone’s taxes. Or are they just being disingenuous?
    I think Tim and Smelly answered it by saying that you should line up the 50 states by total tax burden, if that is indeed the metric you want to line it up with, and then compare it to quality of life metrics such as crime, education attainment, unemployment rate, quality of infrastructure and public transportation, average commute times, health, longevity, etc. I’m willing to go out a limb and take a guess that those high tax rates states will have better outcomes than lower tax rate states. But it’s all subjective. NH doesn’t have sales or state income taxes but their property taxes? Oh boy. Now, easy enough to really take advantage by not owning real estate but then you negate the advantage of gaining equity. CA and NY have several, up to 7, graduated income tax brackets, so, depending on what you earn as a resident, determines your “effective tax rate.” TN taxes groceries. Depending on how much a family of four spends annually on groceries, determines your “effective tax rate.” And while the state taxes groceries, other localities may also have a tax rate that applies so that one family’s tax burden in one county/city/town may be more of a burden than another’s in a different location.

    Same with the drug price negotiations and pricing. States with unhealthier populations and greater numbers of old folks will benefit more from that than a state with a healthier and younger population. Everything is a trade off.

    You want to live in Flo Rida or Tejas? Go at it. Couldn’t pay me enough to live in either of those two states. I won’t even visit and spend money there to support those clown gubners.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    i'm saying it now. anybody on here making fun of walz's son is an asshole.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,310
    disingenious argument as usual. frds dont control individual state taxes.
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,784
    mickeyrat said:
    disingenious argument as usual. frds dont control individual state taxes.
    Don’t you have some mile long copy and paste drivel article, that no one ever reads,  from some radical blog,  that shows how Blue states actually have no taxes at all? 
  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,747
    i'm saying it now. anybody on here making fun of walz's son is an asshole.
    Asshole and then some.  Thanks for saying this cause I’d be banned forever if someone does say something. 
  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,747
    teskeinc said:
    mickeyrat said:
    disingenious argument as usual. frds dont control individual state taxes.
    Don’t you have some mile long copy and paste drivel article, that no one ever reads,  from some radical blog,  that shows how Blue states actually have no taxes at all? 
    You need to stop speaking for anyone other than yourself.  I read everything normal and true that gets posted.  
  • Philly NJPhilly NJ Posts: 245
    gee, I wonder why they'd talk about the only other viable candidate 90% of the time? haha
    They certainly can't talk about what they did from day 1 over 3.5 years ago. Laughable. 
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