Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Yeah I figured no one could answer it. Never mind. Much like the DNC, this forum is about 10% of ideas and policy and 90% Orange Man Bad. Carry on with the drivel. It’s Tampon Tim’s night to shine!
I mean, the states with the highest taxes are the best states to live in. It’s pretty cut and dry.
Yeah I figured no one could answer it. Never mind. Much like the DNC, this forum is about 10% of ideas and policy and 90% Orange Man Bad. Carry on with the drivel. It’s Tampon Tim’s night to shine!
I mean, the states with the highest taxes are the best states to live in. It’s pretty cut and dry.
More people are moving out of California and NY to states like Texas and Florida, States with lower taxes and more affordable housing among other things. If it’s so great wouldn’t that be opposite? (I’m talking citizens, not the 10 million illegals that came in last 3.5 years)
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1994 : Memphis 1995 : New Orleans 1996 : Seattle
1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2 2020 Phoenix, SD
Kids graduate and move out of public schools. People retire.. People want to stretch their dollar so they sell their house for lots of money and move somewhere cheaper so they can enjoy their money before they die.
Yeah I figured no one could answer it. Never mind. Much like the DNC, this forum is about 10% of ideas and policy and 90% Orange Man Bad. Carry on with the drivel. It’s Tampon Tim’s night to shine!
I mean, the states with the highest taxes are the best states to live in. It’s pretty cut and dry.
More people are moving out of California and NY to states like Texas and Florida, States with lower taxes and more affordable housing among other things. If it’s so great wouldn’t that be opposite? (I’m talking citizens, not the 10 million illegals that came in last 3.5 years)
Quality of life indicator data is out there and there’s plenty of lists ranking states 1 - 50. Check them out and report back.
The baby boomers (the largest generation existing) are getting old and moving on in one way or another. If they are alive they don’t want to drive in cold weather or they want to live somewhere cheaper or live somewhere more age appropriate. I mean, it’s pretty obvious.
Yeah I figured no one could answer it. Never mind. Much like the DNC, this forum is about 10% of ideas and policy and 90% Orange Man Bad. Carry on with the drivel. It’s Tampon Tim’s night to shine!
I mean, the states with the highest taxes are the best states to live in. It’s pretty cut and dry.
More people are moving out of California and NY to states like Texas and Florida, States with lower taxes and more affordable housing among other things. If it’s so great wouldn’t that be opposite? (I’m talking citizens, not the 10 million illegals that came in last 3.5 years)
Quality of life indicator data is out there and there’s plenty of lists ranking states 1 - 50. Check them out and report back.
Utah, Vermont, Maine mostly. Still not the question I asked.
1994 : Memphis 1995 : New Orleans 1996 : Seattle
1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2 2020 Phoenix, SD
So one of the DNC convention themes other than talking about Trump 90% of the time seems to be lowering taxes for Americans.
How can Dems say that is important when states like California and NY, large Democratic strongholds for awhile now, have the highest tax rates in the country? Sales, Income and Property Tax. Is there someone here that lives in either state that can shine a light on why they are taxed at a way higher rate and what benefits do they receive compared to someone in a neighboring state that justifies that much of a higher rate.
Are you basing your question and using CA and NY as examples because you’re combining sales, income and property tax rates to declare them as “having the highest tax rates in the country?” Or are you looking at each tax rate, by type, individually? Because it makes a difference. I don’t expect you to clarify your question because “black woman bad.”
Yeah I figured no one could answer it. Never mind. Much like the DNC, this forum is about 10% of ideas and policy and 90% Orange Man Bad. Carry on with the drivel. It’s Tampon Tim’s night to shine!
I mean, the states with the highest taxes are the best states to live in. It’s pretty cut and dry.
More people are moving out of California and NY to states like Texas and Florida, States with lower taxes and more affordable housing among other things. If it’s so great wouldn’t that be opposite? (I’m talking citizens, not the 10 million illegals that came in last 3.5 years)
Quality of life indicator data is out there and there’s plenty of lists ranking states 1 - 50. Check them out and report back.
Utah, Vermont, Maine mostly. Still not the question I asked.
Tim answered it. You also saw that Florida and Texas are far down on several lists.
Neither had I and after some quick googling it seems like an extremely stupid thing to try to bust the guy over
Most people have never heard of it unless you have to go through it. That is why it's easier for people who do go through it to just say IVF since it's very similar and to avoid having to explain the differences.
It's an extremely difficult and costly process and it takes a toll on a marriage....so most people do not want to take the time to go into details about that experience.
Fuck JD Vance.
2 miscarriages, multiple Clomid cycles, 3 failed IUI (1 resulting in a ectopic pregnancy), and 3 failed
IVF (including preimplantation genetic testing) over the course
of 5-6 years was our infertility experience. The hundreds of shots I gave my wife
was less than
enjoyable, and seeing her go through everything she did with nothing to
show for it was heartbreaking. It truly consumed every part of her
being. While I understand
the toll infertility can take, for us, it bonded us more than we thought possible. Nobody we knew could come close to relating to our experience. After deciding to take a break for our sanity, we opted
for a puppy,
and ended up conceiving on our own 4 months later. Baby #2 was a total
surprise, my wife was almost in her second trimester when we found out. Wouldn't change a thing, it's our story, and if it gives someone hope, we're more than happy to share it.
wow that's great
I have a friend that went through a similar problem (no IUI or IVF I don't believe...I think they weren't sure it could work) and they adopted a baby from China. A year or so after the adoption she got pregnant.
So one of the DNC convention themes other than talking about Trump 90% of the time seems to be lowering taxes for Americans.
How can Dems say that is important when states like California and NY, large Democratic strongholds for awhile now, have the highest tax rates in the country? Sales, Income and Property Tax. Is there someone here that lives in either state that can shine a light on why they are taxed at a way higher rate and what benefits do they receive compared to someone in a neighboring state that justifies that much of a higher rate.
Are you basing your question and using CA and NY as examples because you’re combining sales, income and property tax rates to declare them as “having the highest tax rates in the country?” Or are you looking at each tax rate, by type, individually? Because it makes a difference. I don’t expect you to clarify your question because “black woman bad.”
Just found it odd that a candidate with no platform to speak of and short on policy has surrogates speaking on lowering taxes but taxes haven’t been lowered over 3.5 years. And the states with the overall highest taxes are states that have voted Democrat for a long time.What are they planning on changing?
1994 : Memphis 1995 : New Orleans 1996 : Seattle
1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2 2020 Phoenix, SD
So one of the DNC convention themes other than talking about Trump 90% of the time seems to be lowering taxes for Americans.
How can Dems say that is important when states like California and NY, large Democratic strongholds for awhile now, have the highest tax rates in the country? Sales, Income and Property Tax. Is there someone here that lives in either state that can shine a light on why they are taxed at a way higher rate and what benefits do they receive compared to someone in a neighboring state that justifies that much of a higher rate.
Are you basing your question and using CA and NY as examples because you’re combining sales, income and property tax rates to declare them as “having the highest tax rates in the country?” Or are you looking at each tax rate, by type, individually? Because it makes a difference. I don’t expect you to clarify your question because “black woman bad.”
Just found it odd that a candidate with no platform to speak of and short on policy has surrogates speaking on lowering taxes but taxes haven’t been lowered over 3.5 years. And the states with the overall highest taxes are states that have voted Democrat for a long time.What are they planning on changing?
you guys hold the house. hard to get anything done when the gop would rather self immolate than raise a tax, or cut them to help the middle and lower class. just the super wealthy.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
So one of the DNC convention themes other than talking about Trump 90% of the time seems to be lowering taxes for Americans.
How can Dems say that is important when states like California and NY, large Democratic strongholds for awhile now, have the highest tax rates in the country? Sales, Income and Property Tax. Is there someone here that lives in either state that can shine a light on why they are taxed at a way higher rate and what benefits do they receive compared to someone in a neighboring state that justifies that much of a higher rate.
Are you basing your question and using CA and NY as examples because you’re combining sales, income and property tax rates to declare them as “having the highest tax rates in the country?” Or are you looking at each tax rate, by type, individually? Because it makes a difference. I don’t expect you to clarify your question because “black woman bad.”
Just found it odd that a candidate with no platform to speak of and short on policy
I think you can stop with this disingenuous stuff. It’s clear she’s gonna extend many if not most of the Biden policies and agendas. Yes, it would be nice if they were outlined on the website but also, shit changes because life changes day to day. Also, the point of the DNC is choose a party platform -so relax. Let’s revisit this if nothing is up in a week or 2.
And positioning oneself as not the other person running, is a legitimate position. Because as much as you have railed against people voting for a ‘best friend president’ or ‘vibes’ or whatever, the bottom line is, that’s how most people vote.
So one of the DNC convention themes other than talking about Trump 90% of the time seems to be lowering taxes for Americans.
How can Dems say that is important when states like California and NY, large Democratic strongholds for awhile now, have the highest tax rates in the country? Sales, Income and Property Tax. Is there someone here that lives in either state that can shine a light on why they are taxed at a way higher rate and what benefits do they receive compared to someone in a neighboring state that justifies that much of a higher rate.
Are you basing your question and using CA and NY as examples because you’re combining sales, income and property tax rates to declare them as “having the highest tax rates in the country?” Or are you looking at each tax rate, by type, individually? Because it makes a difference. I don’t expect you to clarify your question because “black woman bad.”
Just found it odd that a candidate with no platform to speak of and short on policy has surrogates speaking on lowering taxes but taxes haven’t been lowered over 3.5 years. And the states with the overall highest taxes are states that have voted Democrat for a long time.What are they planning on changing?
You didn’t clarify your question. You avoided it. And your question, without clarification, is bunk right out of the gate because CA and NY aren’t the highest, depending on many factors for all three categories of taxes you mentioned. Disingenuousness is the order of the day.
So one of the DNC convention themes other than talking about Trump 90% of the time seems to be lowering taxes for Americans.
How can Dems say that is important when states like California and NY, large Democratic strongholds for awhile now, have the highest tax rates in the country? Sales, Income and Property Tax. Is there someone here that lives in either state that can shine a light on why they are taxed at a way higher rate and what benefits do they receive compared to someone in a neighboring state that justifies that much of a higher rate.
Are you basing your question and using CA and NY as examples because you’re combining sales, income and property tax rates to declare them as “having the highest tax rates in the country?” Or are you looking at each tax rate, by type, individually? Because it makes a difference. I don’t expect you to clarify your question because “black woman bad.”
Just found it odd that a candidate with no platform to speak of and short on policy has surrogates speaking on lowering taxes but taxes haven’t been lowered over 3.5 years. And the states with the overall highest taxes are states that have voted Democrat for a long time.What are they planning on changing?
You didn’t clarify your question. You avoided it. And your question, without clarification, is bunk right out of the gate because CA and NY aren’t the highest, depending on many factors for all three categories of taxes you mentioned. Disingenuousness is the order of the day.
I’ll make it easier for you to understand. Why are taxes generally higher in states that have been controlled by the Democratic leaders for decades(California, NY, New Jersey, Illinois). What benefits do citizens of these states have over citizens in states with lower taxes or no state income tax at all (Texas, Florida, Nevada).
1994 : Memphis 1995 : New Orleans 1996 : Seattle
1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2 2020 Phoenix, SD
1994 : Memphis 1995 : New Orleans 1996 : Seattle
1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2 2020 Phoenix, SD
Would you say that the majority of those top 10 would be Blue states? So what would make someone believe that Democrats are looking to lower anyone’s taxes. Or are they just being disingenuous?
1994 : Memphis 1995 : New Orleans 1996 : Seattle
1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2 2020 Phoenix, SD
i propose the blue states absolutely stop subsidizing the red states. you know, the broke ass states that receive more federal dollars than they take in.
they want to vote red and have no taxes, they can fend for themselves when a hurricane hits.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Would you say that the majority of those top 10 would be Blue states? So what would make someone believe that Democrats are looking to lower anyone’s taxes. Or are they just being disingenuous?
I think Tim and Smelly answered it by saying that you should line up the 50 states by total tax burden, if that is indeed the metric you want to line it up with, and then compare it to quality of life metrics such as crime, education attainment, unemployment rate, quality of infrastructure and public transportation, average commute times, health, longevity, etc. I’m willing to go out a limb and take a guess that those high tax rates states will have better outcomes than lower tax rate states. But it’s all subjective. NH doesn’t have sales or state income taxes but their property taxes? Oh boy. Now, easy enough to really take advantage by not owning real estate but then you negate the advantage of gaining equity. CA and NY have several, up to 7, graduated income tax brackets, so, depending on what you earn as a resident, determines your “effective tax rate.” TN taxes groceries. Depending on how much a family of four spends annually on groceries, determines your “effective tax rate.” And while the state taxes groceries, other localities may also have a tax rate that applies so that one family’s tax burden in one county/city/town may be more of a burden than another’s in a different location.
Same with the drug price negotiations and pricing. States with unhealthier populations and greater numbers of old folks will benefit more from that than a state with a healthier and younger population. Everything is a trade off.
You want to live in Flo Rida or Tejas? Go at it. Couldn’t pay me enough to live in either of those two states. I won’t even visit and spend money there to support those clown gubners.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
disingenious argument as usual. frds dont control individual state taxes.
Don’t you have some mile long copy and paste drivel article, that no one ever reads, from some radical blog, that shows how Blue states actually have no taxes at all?
1994 : Memphis 1995 : New Orleans 1996 : Seattle
1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2 2020 Phoenix, SD
disingenious argument as usual. frds dont control individual state taxes.
Don’t you have some mile long copy and paste drivel article, that no one ever reads, from some radical blog, that shows how Blue states actually have no taxes at all?
You need to stop speaking for anyone other than yourself. I read everything normal and true that gets posted.
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2
2020 Phoenix, SD
1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2
2020 Phoenix, SD
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1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2
2020 Phoenix, SD
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2
2020 Phoenix, SD
1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2
2020 Phoenix, SD
1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2
2020 Phoenix, SD
they want to vote red and have no taxes, they can fend for themselves when a hurricane hits.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Same with the drug price negotiations and pricing. States with unhealthier populations and greater numbers of old folks will benefit more from that than a state with a healthier and younger population. Everything is a trade off.
You want to live in Flo Rida or Tejas? Go at it. Couldn’t pay me enough to live in either of those two states. I won’t even visit and spend money there to support those clown gubners.
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
Brilliantati©
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
2012: EV Vegas 1+2
2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2
2020 Phoenix, SD