** KAMALA HARRIS FOR PRESIDENT -PART DEUX **

Gern Blansten

I will say that it does seem that Harris' campaign has some pretty edgy people assisting. If they keep the constant jabs at tRump up this will be a well run campaign. 

Going low isn't the best traditional approach but we now know that approach doesn't work with tRump. Direct insults leveled at him constantly drive him insane. He'll focus more on defending himself than attacking.

Johnny Abruzzo

Gern Blansten said:

I will say that it does seem that Harris' campaign has some pretty edgy people assisting. If they keep the constant jabs at tRump up this will be a well run campaign. 

Going low isn't the best traditional approach but we now know that approach doesn't work with tRump. Direct insults leveled at him constantly drive him insane. He'll focus more on defending himself than attacking.

The best defense is a great offense!

benjs

Gern Blansten said:

I will say that it does seem that Harris' campaign has some pretty edgy people assisting. If they keep the constant jabs at tRump up this will be a well run campaign. 

Going low isn't the best traditional approach but we now know that approach doesn't work with tRump. Direct insults leveled at him constantly drive him insane. He'll focus more on defending himself than attacking.

The thing is, they’re not jabs like Republicans know them (look how she laughs, she’s clearly crazy or look at that tan suit, he clearly doesn’t love America). They’re jabs like I’m used to dealing with criminals like my opponent. Who’s legitimately a convicted criminal lol.

Merkin Baller

benjs said:

Gern Blansten said:

I will say that it does seem that Harris' campaign has some pretty edgy people assisting. If they keep the constant jabs at tRump up this will be a well run campaign. 

Going low isn't the best traditional approach but we now know that approach doesn't work with tRump. Direct insults leveled at him constantly drive him insane. He'll focus more on defending himself than attacking.

The thing is, they’re not jabs like Republicans know them (look how she laughs, she’s clearly crazy or look at that tan suit, he clearly doesn’t love America). They’re jabs like I’m used to dealing with criminals like my opponent. Who’s legitimately a convicted criminal lol.

& the amount of people ok with his blatant criminality & corruption is staggering, both here in this forum & in the real world. 

So many people were up in arms over Hunter, but trump? It’s ok I guess, because he hates all the right people. 

curmudgeoness

Gern Blansten said:

I will say that it does seem that Harris' campaign has some pretty edgy people assisting. If they keep the constant jabs at tRump up this will be a well run campaign. 

Going low isn't the best traditional approach but we now know that approach doesn't work with tRump. Direct insults leveled at him constantly drive him insane. He'll focus more on defending himself than attacking.

I think there's a difference between, say, birtherism and "What happened to 'Any time, any place'?" -- Attacking a person's actions, which they control, vs. their ancestry and ethnicity, which they cannot control. The Lincoln Project has the low road well under control (that new ad -- whoa!).

Gern Blansten

curmudgeoness said:

Gern Blansten said:

I will say that it does seem that Harris' campaign has some pretty edgy people assisting. If they keep the constant jabs at tRump up this will be a well run campaign. 

Going low isn't the best traditional approach but we now know that approach doesn't work with tRump. Direct insults leveled at him constantly drive him insane. He'll focus more on defending himself than attacking.

I think there's a difference between, say, birtherism and "What happened to 'Any time, any place'?" -- Attacking a person's actions, which they control, vs. their ancestry and ethnicity, which they cannot control. The Lincoln Project has the low road well under control (that new ad -- whoa!).

agreed...by "going low" I meant to refer more to just constant attack rather than just trying to point out policy differences. People don't give a shit about that anymore. They want their candidate to fight back.

The narrative that tRump is dissatisfied with Vance and that Vance is hurting his ticket is really being pushed right now. I love it.

The Juggler

I think Biden was down 4-5% maybe?

Johnny Abruzzo

Gern Blansten said:

curmudgeoness said:

Gern Blansten said:

I will say that it does seem that Harris' campaign has some pretty edgy people assisting. If they keep the constant jabs at tRump up this will be a well run campaign. 

Going low isn't the best traditional approach but we now know that approach doesn't work with tRump. Direct insults leveled at him constantly drive him insane. He'll focus more on defending himself than attacking.

I think there's a difference between, say, birtherism and "What happened to 'Any time, any place'?" -- Attacking a person's actions, which they control, vs. their ancestry and ethnicity, which they cannot control. The Lincoln Project has the low road well under control (that new ad -- whoa!).

agreed...by "going low" I meant to refer more to just constant attack rather than just trying to point out policy differences. People don't give a shit about that anymore. They want their candidate to fight back.

The narrative that tRump is dissatisfied with Vance and that Vance is hurting his ticket is really being pushed right now. I love it.

Did they not catch that Vance wrote the forward for the Project 2025 book in their "vetting"? These people are so incompetent. Surely they would crash the economy just like the last 3 Republican presidents. Our country just can't get enough I guess.

curmudgeoness

Gern Blansten said:

curmudgeoness said:

Gern Blansten said:

I will say that it does seem that Harris' campaign has some pretty edgy people assisting. If they keep the constant jabs at tRump up this will be a well run campaign. 

Going low isn't the best traditional approach but we now know that approach doesn't work with tRump. Direct insults leveled at him constantly drive him insane. He'll focus more on defending himself than attacking.

I think there's a difference between, say, birtherism and "What happened to 'Any time, any place'?" -- Attacking a person's actions, which they control, vs. their ancestry and ethnicity, which they cannot control. The Lincoln Project has the low road well under control (that new ad -- whoa!).

agreed...by "going low" I meant to refer more to just constant attack rather than just trying to point out policy differences. People don't give a shit about that anymore. They want their candidate to fight back.

The narrative that tRump is dissatisfied with Vance and that Vance is hurting his ticket is really being pushed right now. I love it.

I'll post the new bit from J L Cauvin in the other thread --

gimmesometruth27

The Juggler said:

Tim Simmons said:

Oh I get it. And polls are legit. I’m just not ready to get fired up and live and die by every poll just yet. 

Takes a few weeks for it all to bake in but gauging the new nominees effectiveness is interesting to me.

Also interesting is that Trump has basically gotten no bump after having a bullet possibly graze the tip of his ear, naming his running mate, and holding his convention. 

don't worry, next time he will let a bullet hit him in the foot so he can ride along in one of those rascal scooters with his face and maga airbrushed on it. so that he gets extra attention.

gimmesometruth27

Johnny Abruzzo said:

Have the MAGA's explained why Trump blew up the border bill? Or just denied it - even though it is completely factual and documented, with quotes from the man himself, the 100% objective truth. Why does Donald Trump want more migrants coming to the border???

they have flat out said it didn't happen that way. the ones i saw said trump, while not president, cannot blow up any legislation. ignoring the fact that he told johnson to scuttle the bill because he needs the issue to run on. rather than fix the issue, he wants to run on it and fix it once he is president.

he wants them coming in so they can work at his various properties as cheap labor.

gimmesometruth27

Gern Blansten said:

The Juggler said:

Trump agreeing to the early debate and then naming Vance his running mate are looking like such amateurish decisions right now. 

Big time...I get that things changed on the Dem side but that really shouldn't have influenced the VP pick anyway. 

It really doesn't seem like the vetting was all that great. I have to wonder if Haley may have been offered VP and refused?

i doubt she would have refused, as ALL political candidates are ambitious and many are self serving. she would take a cabinet position, no doubt.

Merkin Baller

gimmesometruth27 said:

Johnny Abruzzo said:

Have the MAGA's explained why Trump blew up the border bill? Or just denied it - even though it is completely factual and documented, with quotes from the man himself, the 100% objective truth. Why does Donald Trump want more migrants coming to the border???

they have flat out said it didn't happen that way. the ones i saw said trump, while not president, cannot blow up any legislation. ignoring the fact that he told johnson to scuttle the bill because he needs the issue to run on. rather than fix the issue, he wants to run on it and fix it once he is president.

he wants them coming in so they can work at his various properties as cheap labor.

I recall some resentment of the democrats timing, suggesting border measures were only brought up with this being an election year, which was also nonsense; it was introduced because republicans said no more funding for Ukraine until a border bill got put through.

gimmesometruth27

Gern Blansten said:

curmudgeoness said:

Gern Blansten said:

I will say that it does seem that Harris' campaign has some pretty edgy people assisting. If they keep the constant jabs at tRump up this will be a well run campaign. 

Going low isn't the best traditional approach but we now know that approach doesn't work with tRump. Direct insults leveled at him constantly drive him insane. He'll focus more on defending himself than attacking.

I think there's a difference between, say, birtherism and "What happened to 'Any time, any place'?" -- Attacking a person's actions, which they control, vs. their ancestry and ethnicity, which they cannot control. The Lincoln Project has the low road well under control (that new ad -- whoa!).

agreed...by "going low" I meant to refer more to just constant attack rather than just trying to point out policy differences. People don't give a shit about that anymore. They want their candidate to fight back.

The narrative that tRump is dissatisfied with Vance and that Vance is hurting his ticket is really being pushed right now. I love it.

i believe the dems are sick of constantly getting bombarded with mud while their leadership focuses on "going high". certain times call for giving it back instead of turning the other cheek. this is one of those times. i believe this is one reason why joe was forced out. too old or too unwilling to fight in the way he needed to fight against a candidate like trump.

Johnny Abruzzo

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

curmudgeoness said:

Gern Blansten said:

I will say that it does seem that Harris' campaign has some pretty edgy people assisting. If they keep the constant jabs at tRump up this will be a well run campaign. 

Going low isn't the best traditional approach but we now know that approach doesn't work with tRump. Direct insults leveled at him constantly drive him insane. He'll focus more on defending himself than attacking.

I think there's a difference between, say, birtherism and "What happened to 'Any time, any place'?" -- Attacking a person's actions, which they control, vs. their ancestry and ethnicity, which they cannot control. The Lincoln Project has the low road well under control (that new ad -- whoa!).

agreed...by "going low" I meant to refer more to just constant attack rather than just trying to point out policy differences. People don't give a shit about that anymore. They want their candidate to fight back.

The narrative that tRump is dissatisfied with Vance and that Vance is hurting his ticket is really being pushed right now. I love it.

i believe the dems are sick of constantly getting bombarded with mud while their leadership focuses on "going high". certain times call for giving it back instead of turning the other cheek. this is one of those times. i believe this is one reason why joe was forced out. too old or too unwilling to fight in the way he needed to fight against a candidate like trump.

My son hit it on the head. He said "Joe Biden couldn't stand up for himself." He watched the debate with me. Biden was trying to (accurately, 1 million percent) hit Trump on squashing the border bill and he just couldn't get the words out.

tempo_n_groove

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/26/politics/barack-michelle-obama-kamala-harris-endorsement/index.html

Did anyone actually think they wouldn't?

Gern Blansten

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/26/politics/barack-michelle-obama-kamala-harris-endorsement/index.html

Did anyone actually think they wouldn't?

uh...well Hannity posted a tweet two hours after the endorsement that Obama didn't think she was ready and wouldn't endorse or something to that effect

so...yeah

Gern Blansten

Johnny Abruzzo said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Gern Blansten said:

curmudgeoness said:

Gern Blansten said:

I will say that it does seem that Harris' campaign has some pretty edgy people assisting. If they keep the constant jabs at tRump up this will be a well run campaign. 

Going low isn't the best traditional approach but we now know that approach doesn't work with tRump. Direct insults leveled at him constantly drive him insane. He'll focus more on defending himself than attacking.

I think there's a difference between, say, birtherism and "What happened to 'Any time, any place'?" -- Attacking a person's actions, which they control, vs. their ancestry and ethnicity, which they cannot control. The Lincoln Project has the low road well under control (that new ad -- whoa!).

agreed...by "going low" I meant to refer more to just constant attack rather than just trying to point out policy differences. People don't give a shit about that anymore. They want their candidate to fight back.

The narrative that tRump is dissatisfied with Vance and that Vance is hurting his ticket is really being pushed right now. I love it.

i believe the dems are sick of constantly getting bombarded with mud while their leadership focuses on "going high". certain times call for giving it back instead of turning the other cheek. this is one of those times. i believe this is one reason why joe was forced out. too old or too unwilling to fight in the way he needed to fight against a candidate like trump.

My son hit it on the head. He said "Joe Biden couldn't stand up for himself." He watched the debate with me. Biden was trying to (accurately, 1 million percent) hit Trump on squashing the border bill and he just couldn't get the words out.

yeah there were all kinds of softballs that he just couldn't hit...even his speech the other night had a lot of verbal gaffes. I have no doubt that he is still capable but he just doesn't come across that way and that is the perception most people have. 

gimmesometruth27

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/26/politics/barack-michelle-obama-kamala-harris-endorsement/index.html

Did anyone actually think they wouldn't?

the trump campaign did not. someone tweeted yesterday that there is uncertainty and that rumors were that michelle was going to replace harris and would be the nominee at the convention. this uncertainty is the exact reason trump campaign gave last night for backing out of the debates.

looks like he needs to find another excuse.

Halifax2TheMax

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/26/politics/barack-michelle-obama-kamala-harris-endorsement/index.html

Did anyone actually think they wouldn't?

Obama was pissed! Pissed I tell you! So pissed that there was no way he was going to endorse Kamala. Pissed, according to faux news and their unnamed sources. Shecky was all over it. Shecky got the jump and is truth speaking to all us rotten brains.

Kamalaloha Mahalo