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Who will be the Democratic nominee?

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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 41,142
    edited July 8
    Joe Biden
    brianlux said:
    Eddie Vedder


    He's not old enough.  Maybe this guy?
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    Haha, not born here :(

    otherwise how wonderful to get a rambling guitar solo at the SOTU

    a little worried about his recent cancelations. I really really wanted to see him in May, but I was about four weeks post op, just wasn’t in the cards :(

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 37,158
    Sounds an awful lot like the Bernie supporters of 2016. If the “independent” voters want four more years of POOTWH, ‘Murica deserves everything it’s going to get and then some. 
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    teskeincteskeinc Posts: 876
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    Who knew Biden was the first black woman to serve with the first black President? That is quite an accomplishment! What would be his pronoun?
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    pjl44pjl44 Posts: 8,592
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,297
    pjl44 said:

    It will be endless and as soon as the Dems give in to Biden, the gop will be relentless in the fall attacking his abilities. Video from that debate will be shown non stop in the fall.

    He had to get thru two debates without creating major headlines and could not accomplish that.
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    pjl44pjl44 Posts: 8,592
    Josh Shapiro
    Nate Silver I think gets to the heart of the issue here


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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,843
    Joe Biden
    We are so dumb & get what we deserve.
    Wish that wasn't the case, but this is where we are.
    Dammit.
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    pjl44pjl44 Posts: 8,592
    Josh Shapiro
    Either this is true (which would be insane) or NY Dems want you to believe it's true (which is wild in its own right).

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/10/biden-new-york-trouble-00167198


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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,785
    The worlds most powerful man is too out of it to not read teleprompter directions out loud...


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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,609
    Joe Biden

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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,373
    edited July 10
    Stewart is always pretty much dead on. If it all wasn't reality, it would be a lot funnier, but until the day after the election, it's going to be depressing as hell unless Biden changes course and democrats pull their heads out of their asses.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,297
    tbergs said:
    Stewart is always pretty much dead on. If it all wasn't reality, it would be a lot funnier, but until the day after the election, it's going to be depressing as hell unless Biden changes course and democrats pull their heads out of their asses.


    In the video, Stewart points out that Biden made embarrassing mistakes on both his taped ABC interview and his live Morning Joe call in. 

    He also points out we just received new and significant information about Biden that they haven’t shared with the public until he crashed at the debate. Not that they wanted to share the truth with voters.

    Non partisan Cook political report has shifted six states that were either likely or lean D towards trump now. Biden dug the democrats in a deep hole, how exactly does an 81 year old candidate with obvious challenges make up ground? 

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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,785
    Lerxst1992 said:

    how exactly does an 81 year old candidate with obvious challenges make up ground? 

    With a blending smile and aviator glasses?
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 41,142
    Joe Biden
    John Stewart nails it again!
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    We All BelieveWe All Believe Scarsdale, NY Posts: 542
    edited July 10
    Kamala Harris
    Wow.

    On his IG, Stone just shared a petition that calls on Biden to step aside.

    https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/replace-biden
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    lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 12,978
    Stone knows best 
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    We All BelieveWe All Believe Scarsdale, NY Posts: 542
    edited July 10
    Kamala Harris
    Stone knows best 
    Indeed.

    Maybe now that Hollywood is getting involved, we'll get some movement, lest anyone think that regular folks or politicians have more influence than Danny Ocean or Meathead.

    ***

    Actor Rob Reiner says “Biden must step aside” following Clooney's op-ed

    From CNN's Betsy Klein

    Filmmaker, actor, and prominent Democrat Rob Reiner, a Biden surrogate, has also called for President Joe Biden to step aside. 

    Reiner, who attended a fundraiser alongside Vice President Kamala Harris after the debate, echoed comments from George Clooney, linking to Clooney’s op-ed. 

    “My friend George Clooney has clearly expressed what many of us have been saying. We love and respect Joe Biden. We acknowledge all he has done for our country. But Democracy is facing an existential threat. We need someone younger to fight back. Joe Biden must step aside,” Reiner said in a post to social media platform X Wednesday.

    Those comments mark the loss of support from another Hollywood voice that the Biden campaign has leaned on in the past. 

    Reiner began his calls on Biden to step down earlier this week.

    “If the Convicted Felon wins, we lose our Democracy. Joe Biden has effectively served US with honor, decency, and dignity. It’s time for Joe Biden to step down,” he wrote Sunday.

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 37,158
    I’m waiting for the Bowling for Columbine guy to chime in and tell me what to do, not that it’ll matter.
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    pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,332
    Joe Biden
    This is getting stupid.  All the Dems publicly calling for Biden to get out is not helping the Dems cause.  Either do it quietly in back channels or shut your trap.   Doing it publicly just gives the issue more attention for those that might be on the fence.  
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    pjl44pjl44 Posts: 8,592
    Josh Shapiro
    pjhawks said:
    This is getting stupid.  All the Dems publicly calling for Biden to get out is not helping the Dems cause.  Either do it quietly in back channels or shut your trap.   Doing it publicly just gives the issue more attention for those that might be on the fence.  
    They're doing it publicly because privately didn't work 
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    pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,332
    edited July 10
    Joe Biden
    pjl44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    This is getting stupid.  All the Dems publicly calling for Biden to get out is not helping the Dems cause.  Either do it quietly in back channels or shut your trap.   Doing it publicly just gives the issue more attention for those that might be on the fence.  
    They're doing it publicly because privately didn't work 
    Yes but they are running the risk of him staying in and now you’ve told everyone your candidate is not competent.  I don’t see Biden dropping out. And all this should have been done a year ago before the primaries.  The Dems have fucked this up and it might end our democracy because they are too soft.  
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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,983
    pjhawks said:
    This is getting stupid.  All the Dems publicly calling for Biden to get out is not helping the Dems cause.  Either do it quietly in back channels or shut your trap.   Doing it publicly just gives the issue more attention for those that might be on the fence.  
    Agreed. Not a good look
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    pjl44pjl44 Posts: 8,592
    Josh Shapiro
    pjhawks said:
    pjl44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    This is getting stupid.  All the Dems publicly calling for Biden to get out is not helping the Dems cause.  Either do it quietly in back channels or shut your trap.   Doing it publicly just gives the issue more attention for those that might be on the fence.  
    They're doing it publicly because privately didn't work 
    Yes but they are running the risk of him staying in and now you’ve told everyone your candidate is not competent.  I don’t see Biden dropping out. And all this should have been done a year ago before the primaries.  The Dems have fucked this up and it might end our democracy because they are too soft.  
    Voters already know he's not competent/Think it's slightly more likely than not/Completely agree/Don't think democracy will end but would reeeeeeeally not like to see another 4 years of Trump
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,373
    edited July 10
    I think people recognize that they either say something and keep the pressure mounting or sit idly by, cross their fingers, and hope that we don't have a Project 2025 puppet as dictator. We have eyes and ears so if what they are saying could be disputed we wouldn't be at this juncture. We need a new candidate and that person could ride the wave even more than Obama generated 16 years ago if done correctly. However, I don't know how you get around that person being anyone other than Kamala, but she won't pick up the middle so it's probably still a gamble, but a better one than Biden right now.
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    It's a hopeless situation...
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    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,027
    tbergs said:
    I think people recognize that they either say something and keep the pressure mounting or sit idly by, cross their fingers, and hope that we don't have a Project 2025 puppet as dictator. We have eyes and ears so if what they are saying could be disputed we wouldn't be at this juncture. We need a new candidate and that person could ride the wave even more than Obama generated 16 years ago if done correctly. However, I don't know how you get around that person being anyone other than Kamala, but she won't pick up the middle so it's probably still a gamble, but a better one than Biden right now.
    I thought he could ride it out if only the debate was bad but he was otherwise well - unfortunately, that really doesn't sound like it's the case, or there's been an effective sabotage campaign to make it seem like he's unwell. In either case, I don't think he can bounce back from this. I agree with Jon Stewart - if Democrats nominate someone who can be 1/10th as inspiring as people found Obama, able to communicate effectively, given the existing loathing of Trump, they can win.
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    lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 12,978
    If you don't do something trump will walk it.. do something now to stop that 
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    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,027
    If you don't do something trump will walk it.. do something now to stop that 
    I get the feeling Biden already knows he has to drop out. That said, he has to be 100% in until he's 100% out. Honest question though - if he bows out because of his current mental health, will there be impeachment efforts between now and November?
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    curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 3,458
    Kamala Harris
    I’m waiting for the Bowling for Columbine guy to chime in and tell me what to do, not that it’ll matter.

    I hate that I know this, since I've thought Michael Moore is a self-aggrandizing sack of sh!t since he was just a loudmouth on local radio, but he's saying that trotting Biden out there and pretending all is well is "elder abuse."
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