Who will be the Democratic nominee?

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,300
    Joe Biden

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  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,715
    This feels like the guy on the roof during the flood waiting for God to rescue him forgoing the boat and helicopter rescues.  The signs are all around us but we’re ignoring them. 
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,311
    Josh Shapiro
    In recent years it's interesting to think about how well things have gone for Democrats when they've had a truly open primary (2008, 2020) vs. how poorly it's gone when they should have but didn't (2016, TBD 2024).
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,556
    This feels like the guy on the roof during the flood waiting for God to rescue him forgoing the boat and helicopter rescues.  The signs are all around us but we’re ignoring them. 

    They are not allowing their eyes to recognize the truth

    The post above yours is very alarming, as if these problems have not been caused by Biden

     incompetent Democrat leadership that continues to believe the way to win a presidency is by pointing out the failings of their opponent while ignoring the problems of their own candidate

    We could have a younger woman, if Biden resigns, she would be the first woman president, and she could campaign on the dangers of the roberts court to the health and happiness of women,

    ...but instead we will have a candidate who will  constantly be one step away  of guaranteeing a second trump term, if he makes the tiniest slip that makes him look unfit.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,300
    Joe Biden

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,300
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,300
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,745
    This feels like the guy on the roof during the flood waiting for God to rescue him forgoing the boat and helicopter rescues.  The signs are all around us but we’re ignoring them. 

    They are not allowing their eyes to recognize the truth

    The post above yours is very alarming, as if these problems have not been caused by Biden

     incompetent Democrat leadership that continues to believe the way to win a presidency is by pointing out the failings of their opponent while ignoring the problems of their own candidate

    We could have a younger woman, if Biden resigns, she would be the first woman president, and she could campaign on the dangers of the roberts court to the health and happiness of women,

    ...but instead we will have a candidate who will  constantly be one step away  of guaranteeing a second trump term, if he makes the tiniest slip that makes him look unfit.
    Brandon got you down?


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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,668
    edited July 7
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    “Ho Ho Ho, Happy Independence Day!”
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,745
    teskeinc said:
    “Ho Ho Ho, Happy Independence Day!”
    Who’s the other? That you’d vote for in this poll? Asking since there’s no “none of the above.”
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,321
    Joe Biden
    teskeinc said:
    “Ho Ho Ho, Happy Independence Day!”
    You got the wrong holiday Santa is the one who says Ho Ho Ho and hope you enjoyed your 4th it just might be our last as a working democracy if we can even call it that! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,300
    Joe Biden


    Why is the pundit class so desperate to push Biden out of the race?

    Rebecca Solnit

    Yes, Biden had a bad debate – but so did Trump. The media is once again repeating the mistakes of 2016

    Sat 6 Jul 2024 10.00 EDTLast modified on Sat 6 Jul 2024 17.40 EDT

    I am not usually one to offer diagnoses of people I’ve never met, but it does seem like the pundit class of the American media is suffering from severe memory loss. Because they’re doing exactly what they did in the 2016 presidential race – providing wildly asymmetrical and inflammatory coverage of the one candidate running against Donald J Trump.

    They have become a stampeding herd producing an avalanche of stories suggesting Biden is unfit, will lose and should go away, at a point in the campaign in which replacing him would likely be somewhere between extremely difficult and utterly catastrophic. They do this while ignoring something every scholar and critic of journalism knows well and every journalist should. As Nikole Hannah-Jones put it: “As media we consistently proclaim that we are just reporting the news when in fact we are driving it. What we cover, how we cover it, determines often what Americans think is important and how they perceive these issues yet we keep pretending it’s not so.” They are not reporting that he is a loser; they are making him one.


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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,668
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    teskeinc said:
    “Ho Ho Ho, Happy Independence Day!”
    Who’s the other? That you’d vote for in this poll? Asking since there’s no “none of the above.”
    Not going to happen but Michelle Obama. It would be Kamala who is a terrible person and candidate. I’m an independent who’s mostly voted Democrat but never been a fan of Biden. People labeled Trump a racist because he wanted a secure border but Biden’s policies and comments over decades rubbed me the wrong way. Kamala putting 1000s in jail for low level marijuana crime also is unforgivable. 
  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,110
    edited July 7
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    “Ho Ho Ho, Happy Independence Day!”
    Who’s the other? That you’d vote for in this poll? Asking since there’s no “none of the above.”
    Not going to happen but Michelle Obama. It would be Kamala who is a terrible person and candidate. I’m an independent who’s mostly voted Democrat but never been a fan of Biden. People labeled Trump a racist because he wanted a secure border but Biden’s policies and comments over decades rubbed me the wrong way. Kamala putting 1000s in jail for low level marijuana crime also is unforgivable. 
    I could’ve sworn he was labeled a racist for his and his dad’s not renting units to black people, for his regular referral to ‘shithole countries’, for his claim that Mexican immigrants are predominantly rapists and drug dealers, for his Muslim ban, for his refusal to strongly denounce white supremacists. Guess all of that was for a secure border? 
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,556
    “Biden had a bad debate” is gaslighting on a trumponian level.
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,556
    edited July 7
    The below is from wapo. Every innocent story now becomes part of the Biden is in decline narrative.

    All because either he is, or his team was completely incapable of having him rested and prepared before appearing live on stage with trump, with no chance of follow-ups for three months.

    both mistakes are unprecedented by a successful campaign 

    ..


    “ Two radio hosts said Saturday they were supplied questions from aides to President Biden before separate interviews with him this week, a move that a campaign spokeswoman defended as routine.

    “It’s not at all an uncommon practice for interviewees to share topics they would prefer,” Biden campaign spokeswoman Lauren Hitt said in a statement. She added that agreeing on topics in advance was not a prerequisite of the interview.

    The acknowledgment by Biden’s campaign comes as it has been criticized for heavily controlling his public events to minimize potential gaffes during unscripted appearances.

    During a 90-minute debate on June 27, the 81-year-old Democrat appeared tired and confused, and at times he delivered rambling answers. His presumptive Republican opponent, 78-year-old former president Donald Trump, unleashed a flurry of falsehoodsduring the debate, which CNN hosted. The parties decided in advance not to have their moderators fact-check in real time.

  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,311
    Josh Shapiro
    This is perfectly normal behavior for a President who (a) just had a bad night but is otherwise totally up to the task day to day and (b) has a son whose professional dealings are completely independent of his. 



    https://www.axios.com/2024/07/07/biden-democrats-drop-election-campaign
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,311
    Josh Shapiro
    “Biden had a bad debate” is gaslighting on a trumponian level.
    1000%
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,331
    pjl44 said:
    “Biden had a bad debate” is gaslighting on a trumponian level.
    1000%
    I also agree.
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,311
    Josh Shapiro
    Dare to dream






  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,745
    benjs said:
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    “Ho Ho Ho, Happy Independence Day!”
    Who’s the other? That you’d vote for in this poll? Asking since there’s no “none of the above.”
    Not going to happen but Michelle Obama. It would be Kamala who is a terrible person and candidate. I’m an independent who’s mostly voted Democrat but never been a fan of Biden. People labeled Trump a racist because he wanted a secure border but Biden’s policies and comments over decades rubbed me the wrong way. Kamala putting 1000s in jail for low level marijuana crime also is unforgivable. 
    I could’ve sworn he was labeled a racist for his and his dad’s not renting units to black people, for his regular referral to ‘shithole countries’, for his claim that Mexican immigrants are predominantly rapists and drug dealers, for his Muslim ban, for his refusal to strongly denounce white supremacists. Guess all of that was for a secure border? 
    And you forgot the Central Park 5 and “good people on both sides.”

    ”People ‘labeled’ POOTWH a racist.” Gee, maybe because he is one? But you know, naps.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,300
    edited July 7
    Joe Biden
    benjs said:
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    “Ho Ho Ho, Happy Independence Day!”
    Who’s the other? That you’d vote for in this poll? Asking since there’s no “none of the above.”
    Not going to happen but Michelle Obama. It would be Kamala who is a terrible person and candidate. I’m an independent who’s mostly voted Democrat but never been a fan of Biden. People labeled Trump a racist because he wanted a secure border but Biden’s policies and comments over decades rubbed me the wrong way. Kamala putting 1000s in jail for low level marijuana crime also is unforgivable. 
    I could’ve sworn he was labeled a racist for his and his dad’s not renting units to black people, for his regular referral to ‘shithole countries’, for his claim that Mexican immigrants are predominantly rapists and drug dealers, for his Muslim ban, for his refusal to strongly denounce white supremacists. Guess all of that was for a secure border? 
    And you forgot the Central Park 5 and “good people on both sides.”

    ”People ‘labeled’ POOTWH a racist.” Gee, maybe because he is one? But you know, naps.

    CP5 exonerated when actual perp is caught/confessed , he STILL fucking doubled down on them.....
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  • woodsjoe999woodsjoe999 Posts: 11
    Eddie Vedder

  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,820
    edited July 7
    Joe Biden
    Eddie Vedder


    He's not old enough.  Maybe this guy?
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,556
    brianlux said:
    Eddie Vedder


    He's not old enough.  Maybe this guy?
    Neil Young Before and After review  with age comes tenderness  Neil Young   The Guardian



    Haha, not born here :(

    otherwise how wonderful to get a rambling guitar solo at the SOTU

    a little worried about his recent cancelations. I really really wanted to see him in May, but I was about four weeks post op, just wasn’t in the cards :(
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,331
    "Among those forcefully calling for Biden to stand down during the nearly two-hour call were Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.), Rep. Adam Smith (D-Wash.), Mark Takano (D-Calif.) and Joe Morelle (D-N.Y.), according to two people familiar with the private session"

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/07/jerry-nadler-adam-smith-congress-biden-00166733
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,300
    Joe Biden
    dignin said:
    "Among those forcefully calling for Biden to stand down during the nearly two-hour call were Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.), Rep. Adam Smith (D-Wash.), Mark Takano (D-Calif.) and Joe Morelle (D-N.Y.), according to two people familiar with the private session"

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/07/jerry-nadler-adam-smith-congress-biden-00166733

    thats rich.

    nadler is 77
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,668
    Other
     mickeyrat said:
    dignin said:
    "Among those forcefully calling for Biden to stand down during the nearly two-hour call were Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.), Rep. Adam Smith (D-Wash.), Mark Takano (D-Calif.) and Joe Morelle (D-N.Y.), according to two people familiar with the private session"

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/07/jerry-nadler-adam-smith-congress-biden-00166733

    thats rich.

    nadler is 77
    Nadler, another scumbag career politician.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,300
    edited July 8
    Joe Biden
    who here believes there will be zero gop driven lawsuits if someone OTHER than the biden/harris ticket tries to get on a ballot.
    Post edited by mickeyrat on
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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,311
    Josh Shapiro
    mickeyrat said:
    who here believes there will be zero lawsuits if someone OTHER than the biden/harris tixket tries to get on a ballot.
    Biden and/or Harris strapping on the figurative suicide vests sounds like a great play
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