A right of return for Ten Club seat tickets for Berlin - now!

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  • dmbolp
    dmbolp ATL Posts: 1,513
    Zen23 said:
    Had a 15 minute phone call with an Eventim employee. Someone who grew up with Pearl Jam! And who is unhappy that culture is getting more and more expensive. Oh man, the story gets better and better. What appears on the Eventim site for the two Pearl Jam concerts as a seating plan graphic is, according to him, specified by Live Nation / Ticketmaster and communicated to Eventim.

    I bet my ass on it. Ticketmaster simply removed or had the marking removed after the complaints.
    The Gorge as an example, tons of the side seats in the lower sections 101 and 103 are way outside the walls of the stage.  LN/TM used to list tons of these as limited view; they no longer do.  Here's an example of a seat you can buy for DMB for $500+:


  • Zen23
    Zen23 Posts: 493
    Someone should grab a screenshot of the forum page where someone posted it before the powers that be make thar disappear too!
    It's evolution baby.


  • dmbolp said:
    Zen23 said:
    Had a 15 minute phone call with an Eventim employee. Someone who grew up with Pearl Jam! And who is unhappy that culture is getting more and more expensive. Oh man, the story gets better and better. What appears on the Eventim site for the two Pearl Jam concerts as a seating plan graphic is, according to him, specified by Live Nation / Ticketmaster and communicated to Eventim.

    I bet my ass on it. Ticketmaster simply removed or had the marking removed after the complaints.
    The Gorge as an example, tons of the side seats in the lower sections 101 and 103 are way outside the walls of the stage.  LN/TM used to list tons of these as limited view; they no longer do.  Here's an example of a seat you can buy for DMB for $500+:


    This looks hideous but I don’t think it’s representative of Waldbuhne.  At least based on the Waldbuhne photos that have been posted it will not be anywhere near as bad as this.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • Zen23 said:
    Someone should grab a screenshot of the forum page where someone posted it before the powers that be make thar disappear too!
    It's evolution baby.


    Routine was the theme…
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • ilockyer
    ilockyer Posts: 2,272
    dmbolp said:
    Zen23 said:
    Had a 15 minute phone call with an Eventim employee. Someone who grew up with Pearl Jam! And who is unhappy that culture is getting more and more expensive. Oh man, the story gets better and better. What appears on the Eventim site for the two Pearl Jam concerts as a seating plan graphic is, according to him, specified by Live Nation / Ticketmaster and communicated to Eventim.

    I bet my ass on it. Ticketmaster simply removed or had the marking removed after the complaints.
    The Gorge as an example, tons of the side seats in the lower sections 101 and 103 are way outside the walls of the stage.  LN/TM used to list tons of these as limited view; they no longer do.  Here's an example of a seat you can buy for DMB for $500+:


    Some of the seats in A1 and E2 are likely to be behind the line of where the rail will be.
    These are about the equivalent of block D2 at Waldbuhne, and wouldn't be too bad at all. 
    The secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,169
    What are your 10C numbers? If you have a high number do not be surprised you received less than good seats. It has gotten worse each tour.
  • ilockyer said:
    Get_Right said:
    It would help to know people's 10C numbers seating in these sections.
    Is the obstruction the speakers hanging over the stage? In my experience that would not be something considered "obstructed" from a ticketing perspective.  

    I think the concrete walls could impact on the angle for many, along with the speakers. Some parts of E2 (left of this pic nearest the hedge) are quite likely to be very restricted once speakers are in and flight cases etc. stacked. 

    It's a beautiful venue, the reasons for its existence much less so. 



    What do you mean? I'm too lazy to google it.
  • Zen23
    Zen23 Posts: 493
    Nazi amphitheater
  • Zen23 said:
    Nazi amphitheater
    Thanks for the response. Kind of what I figured. 
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,811
    I’m just thinking they totally swept the issue under the rug by changing the Eventim display and now nobody’s talking about it any more.  It’s such a sad state of affairs.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • Zen23
    Zen23 Posts: 493
    I am also at a loss as to how to proceed in this matter? I am aware that there is not much that can be done. But even if there is still a little that can be done, I'm happy to do it.
  • LizJ
    LizJ Posts: 364
    I’m just thinking they totally swept the issue under the rug by changing the Eventim display and now nobody’s talking about it any more.  It’s such a sad state of affairs.  
    So I guess we will just remind them of this issue in the upcoming weeks.
  • LizJ
    LizJ Posts: 364
    Zen23 said:
    I am also at a loss as to how to proceed in this matter? I am aware that there is not much that can be done. But even if there is still a little that can be done, I'm happy to do it.
    Might be a good idea to add the link to the other thread to your first post/the first page, as there is some more insight on what the venue looks like https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/301104/berlin-10c-reserved-seat-assignment-good-or-bad/p1  
  • Zen23
    Zen23 Posts: 493
    Updated my first post.

    The saddest thing about the whole thing is that even Ticketmaster has kept in touch on a fairly regular basis. On the other hand, I never got a response from Ten Club about this story.

  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,976
    It seems any word from 10c is a thing of the past also. 


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • axeljohan
    axeljohan Posts: 478
    And we are surprised about that because …. ?
  • JABK
    JABK Finland Posts: 360
    I remember a time not so many years ago when 10C answered fairly quickly to any e-mail...but as I said before it's probably difficult and embarrassing to admit yours or others mistakes...
  • axeljohan
    axeljohan Posts: 478
    Well, they mostly react quickly on some issues. But if they don’t want to react, they just don’t and sit it out. 

    Let’s hope that as little as possible seats will be view-obstructed and the concerts will be great.
  • Running In The Dark
    Running In The Dark Denver Posts: 720
    This is shady for sure!  I’m curious though how people know there seat assignments?  I’ve only had my confirmation emails but those don’t show the seats and the tickets do not show up yet in my TM account.  
    107 Shows and counting
  • TinaE
    TinaE Germany Posts: 2,201
    This is shady for sure!  I’m curious though how people know there seat assignments?  I’ve only had my confirmation emails but those don’t show the seats and the tickets do not show up yet in my TM account.  

    The seat details are in the confirmation email. It also says that another email will be sent at the beginning of March with details on how to access the tickets...
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