A right of return for Ten Club seat tickets for Berlin - now!

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  • Zen23
    Zen23 Posts: 493
    RatherStarved said:
    I’ve been following the forum pretty closely on this and have not heard of anyone getting anything other than those two sections.  People with better numbers got the lower/better part of them and higher numbers got worse.  I’m smack dab in the middle and can’t tell if I’ll be just able to see or just unable to see.  If I am just able to see it could be a really good seat, but it’s a hell of a long trip to take without knowing.  

    In addition, prior to the draw deadline, someone posted that they had contacted Live Nation Germany and were advised 10c had B, C and D. If that person is still on the board maybe they can reconfirm this here.  
    If you tell me the row and seat number, I can give you a good estimate.
  • holo92
    holo92 Posts: 188
    RatherStarved said:
    I’ve been following the forum pretty closely on this and have not heard of anyone getting anything other than those two sections.  People with better numbers got the lower/better part of them and higher numbers got worse.  I’m smack dab in the middle and can’t tell if I’ll be just able to see or just unable to see.  If I am just able to see it could be a really good seat, but it’s a hell of a long trip to take without knowing.  

    In addition, prior to the draw deadline, someone posted that they had contacted Live Nation Germany and were advised 10c had B, C and D. If that person is still on the board maybe they can reconfirm this here.  
    I was the person who talked with Live Nation right before the Tenclub presale started.
    They told me about reserved seating for the PJ concerts at Waldbühne (for the first time no general admission), but did not tell me if there are different price sections or not (they were not, first; only because of the poor sales in the upper sections the sides got cheaper since the third day of public sale).
    That TC-members would get B,C,D was my suggestion, because these are the best seats in the house, including A2 and E1.
    I did not take into account that there are "platin" or "premium" tickets, that they want to sell for up to 350 Euros.

    Things got greedy, and the obstructed view in the upper rows of A1 and E2 is a big disadvantage.
    I really hope they can reduce this problem with a special stage setup.
    But they can not solve it- only with tickets in other sections.
    06/15/92, 08/14/95, 11/03/96, 09/11/98, 06/11/00, 06/23/00, 06/25/00, 06/18/03, 06/21/03, 09/28/04,
    09/02/05, 09/04/05, 09/05/05, 09/16/06, 09/17/06, 09/19/06, 09/22/06, 09/23/06, 06/12/07, 06/18/07,
    06/21/07, 06/23/07, 06/24/08, 06/25/08, 08/15/09, 08/18/09, 06/30/10, 09/03/11, 09/04/11, 07/02/12,
    07/04/12, 07/07/12, 06/16/14, 06/17/14, 06/26/14, 08/05/16, 08/07/16, 07/01/18, 07/03/18, 07/05/18,
    09/02/18, 09/04/18, 06/21/22, 06/28/22, 07/14/22
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,168
    benjs said:
    I'm sorry to say, but anyone who defends the sale of an obstructed ticket as unobstructed, followed by simply removing the term 'obstructed', or even partners of TM who are aware of this and sit idly back - yes, this includes the band, the Ten Club and Eventim - are as dirty from a business perspective as any of the numerous deceptive businesses that regularly perform bait-and-switch tactics. Also, you're not a shitty fan for asking for what you paid for. The BS canned response that came from 10C to some of you is just proof that this is far more a business with clients than a band with fans. You would think respect would be reciprocated in either case, but doesn't appear to be. Even a "we'll look into this and get back to you" would be a more respectful platitude than what you've all been given.



    I know you have been here awhile and are a long time fan. The concert game has changed. Do not hate the players hate the game. This is corporate America.

  • Zen23
    Zen23 Posts: 493
    edited March 2024
    holo92 said:
    RatherStarved said:
    I’ve been following the forum pretty closely on this and have not heard of anyone getting anything other than those two sections.  People with better numbers got the lower/better part of them and higher numbers got worse.  I’m smack dab in the middle and can’t tell if I’ll be just able to see or just unable to see.  If I am just able to see it could be a really good seat, but it’s a hell of a long trip to take without knowing.  

    In addition, prior to the draw deadline, someone posted that they had contacted Live Nation Germany and were advised 10c had B, C and D. If that person is still on the board maybe they can reconfirm this here.  
    I was the person who talked with Live Nation right before the Tenclub presale started.
    They told me about reserved seating for the PJ concerts at Waldbühne (for the first time no general admission), but did not tell me if there are different price sections or not (they were not, first; only because of the poor sales in the upper sections the sides got cheaper since the third day of public sale).
    That TC-members would get B,C,D was my suggestion, because these are the best seats in the house, including A2 and E1.
    I did not take into account that there are "platin" or "premium" tickets, that they want to sell for up to 350 Euros.

    Things got greedy, and the obstructed view in the upper rows of A1 and E2 is a big disadvantage.
    I really hope they can reduce this problem with a special stage setup.
    But they can not solve it- only with tickets in other sections.
    A small correction. Eventim has already reduced the price of tickets in the corners of the upper tier 12 hours after the start of the presale. From 175 to 125 euros. 
    Post edited by Zen23 on
  • holo92
    holo92 Posts: 188
    edited March 2024
    I wrote nearly the same:
    Different price sections in the upper tier left and right corner since the third day of public sale.   
    Post edited by holo92 on
    06/15/92, 08/14/95, 11/03/96, 09/11/98, 06/11/00, 06/23/00, 06/25/00, 06/18/03, 06/21/03, 09/28/04,
    09/02/05, 09/04/05, 09/05/05, 09/16/06, 09/17/06, 09/19/06, 09/22/06, 09/23/06, 06/12/07, 06/18/07,
    06/21/07, 06/23/07, 06/24/08, 06/25/08, 08/15/09, 08/18/09, 06/30/10, 09/03/11, 09/04/11, 07/02/12,
    07/04/12, 07/07/12, 06/16/14, 06/17/14, 06/26/14, 08/05/16, 08/07/16, 07/01/18, 07/03/18, 07/05/18,
    09/02/18, 09/04/18, 06/21/22, 06/28/22, 07/14/22
  • Zen23
    Zen23 Posts: 493
    I know. I have read it. Only that it happened after 12 hours.
  • holo92
    holo92 Posts: 188
    4 more sections in the upper tier are now 127 Euros:
    2 on the left and two on the right side added today!
    06/15/92, 08/14/95, 11/03/96, 09/11/98, 06/11/00, 06/23/00, 06/25/00, 06/18/03, 06/21/03, 09/28/04,
    09/02/05, 09/04/05, 09/05/05, 09/16/06, 09/17/06, 09/19/06, 09/22/06, 09/23/06, 06/12/07, 06/18/07,
    06/21/07, 06/23/07, 06/24/08, 06/25/08, 08/15/09, 08/18/09, 06/30/10, 09/03/11, 09/04/11, 07/02/12,
    07/04/12, 07/07/12, 06/16/14, 06/17/14, 06/26/14, 08/05/16, 08/07/16, 07/01/18, 07/03/18, 07/05/18,
    09/02/18, 09/04/18, 06/21/22, 06/28/22, 07/14/22
  • Zen23
    Zen23 Posts: 493
    Thanks for the tip. It was clear that this would happen. And it was bitterly necessary. They wouldn't have sold out the upper tier for 175 euros.
  • one_stone
    one_stone Posts: 298
    holo92 said:
    4 more sections in the upper tier are now 127 Euros:
    2 on the left and two on the right side added today!

    That is a tactic I really hate to see and the first time I have ever seen this (manual dynamic pricing) on eventim at all (while being used to it on TM where it is clearly stated, there is no hint about this on eventim) Imagine having bought a Ticket in the sections on the very side and now seeing those come available at the same price... and I have a feeling there will be even more to follow. LiveNation really sucks.
  • just_one
    just_one Lisbon Posts: 2,298
    one_stone said:
    holo92 said:
    4 more sections in the upper tier are now 127 Euros:
    2 on the left and two on the right side added today!

    That is a tactic I really hate to see and the first time I have ever seen this (manual dynamic pricing) on eventim at all (while being used to it on TM where it is clearly stated, there is no hint about this on eventim) Imagine having bought a Ticket in the sections on the very side and now seeing those come available at the same price... and I have a feeling there will be even more to follow. LiveNation really sucks.
    I dont think this is not a dynamic price situation , its just a way to sell those tickets. It was shown that lowering to 127 € sold so until show time they will slowly decrease all seats to that price.

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