Ticket prices. This is not for you (the fans).

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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,065
    bicyclejoe said:
    I love Pearl Jam. But it’s also cute how the band seems to think they’re as popular as they were 18 years ago. 
    I had a much easier time getting tickets 18 years ago….
  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,272
    I've always hated the concept that the tickets closer to the stage should be more expensive. It always felt elitist and prices out so many fans who do not have the wealth of the lucky ones. 

    I also know however there is no perfect system out there, and when they are all the same price resellers clean up. 

    My worst experience of this ever was at a U2 show some years ago, I was pretty flabbergasted that a band who has preached equality for so many years and campaigned tirelessly for it would create a system of disparity of wealth at their shows. The front section was twice the price of the rear standing and for some reason that screamed rank hypocrisy at me.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,686
    pdalowsky said:
    I've always hated the concept that the tickets closer to the stage should be more expensive. It always felt elitist and prices out so many fans who do not have the wealth of the lucky ones. 

    I also know however there is no perfect system out there, and when they are all the same price resellers clean up. 

    My worst experience of this ever was at a U2 show some years ago, I was pretty flabbergasted that a band who has preached equality for so many years and campaigned tirelessly for it would create a system of disparity of wealth at their shows. The front section was twice the price of the rear standing and for some reason that screamed rank hypocrisy at me.
    That's one narrative. Here's another: When I was younger I was much more likely to buy lawn tickets, balcony seats, etc. What I found was that cheaper tickets attract more casual fans and I dealt with more loud talking, drunkenness, generally half paying attention save for when they played a hit.

    Arena shows are a splurge and it's silly to make value judgements about whether someone is elite (whatever that means) because they have a good seat. A lot of those people ponied up for good tickets because it's a better experience.

    There's a lot of talk about greed on here but there's also a ton of envy, especially when you're inventing a backstory for someone you know nothing about other than they're sitting in the third row of a concert.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,686
    There are few bands who have done as much as Pearl Jam to get incredible seats into the hands of their fans at a reasonable price. I'd be hard pressed to put anyone above them when you factor in how long it's been a priority for them. And you can see how it gets harder and harder as the years go by.
  • Haijay
    Haijay Posts: 456
    pjl44 said:
    There are few bands who have done as much as Pearl Jam to get incredible seats into the hands of their fans at a reasonable price. I'd be hard pressed to put anyone above them when you factor in how long it's been a priority for them. And you can see how it gets harder and harder as the years go by.
    Well said👏👏👏👏

    Too bad it won’t be long until some wanker posts “$1250 for a ticket in Philly?? WTF, Pearl Jam??!!! 
    That’s it, i’m leaving the ten club forever, greedy, corporate, sellout band!!!!
  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,378
    Haijay said:
    pjl44 said:
    There are few bands who have done as much as Pearl Jam to get incredible seats into the hands of their fans at a reasonable price. I'd be hard pressed to put anyone above them when you factor in how long it's been a priority for them. And you can see how it gets harder and harder as the years go by.
    Well said👏👏👏👏

    Too bad it won’t be long until some wanker posts “$1250 for a ticket in Philly?? WTF, Pearl Jam??!!! 
    That’s it, i’m leaving the ten club forever, greedy, corporate, sellout band!!!!
    The way I look at it, everyone of those moves us up one spot on the membership list. However my guess is that a high number of those people who publicly threaten to leave the club never actually do it. 
  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,272
    pjl44 said:
    There are few bands who have done as much as Pearl Jam to get incredible seats into the hands of their fans at a reasonable price. I'd be hard pressed to put anyone above them when you factor in how long it's been a priority for them. And you can see how it gets harder and harder as the years go by.
    100%
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,218
    pdalowsky said:
    pjl44 said:
    There are few bands who have done as much as Pearl Jam to get incredible seats into the hands of their fans at a reasonable price. I'd be hard pressed to put anyone above them when you factor in how long it's been a priority for them. And you can see how it gets harder and harder as the years go by.
    100%



    People do not get it
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,495
    Get_Right said:
    pdalowsky said:
    pjl44 said:
    There are few bands who have done as much as Pearl Jam to get incredible seats into the hands of their fans at a reasonable price. I'd be hard pressed to put anyone above them when you factor in how long it's been a priority for them. And you can see how it gets harder and harder as the years go by.
    100%



    People do not get it

    The reasonable prices are only for a subset of fans that win the lottery and also have seniority. Every one else is staring at the cheapest NY tickets at $1750 today or other lottery winners subsidizing the senior prices. These policies drive fans to try to win multiple shows which blocks out even more fans. The senior fans get it?
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,299
    One of the big flaw’s of the lottery is that people put in multiple entries per household and can end up with extras they don’t need.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,686
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Get_Right said:
    pdalowsky said:
    pjl44 said:
    There are few bands who have done as much as Pearl Jam to get incredible seats into the hands of their fans at a reasonable price. I'd be hard pressed to put anyone above them when you factor in how long it's been a priority for them. And you can see how it gets harder and harder as the years go by.
    100%



    People do not get it

    The reasonable prices are only for a subset of fans that win the lottery and also have seniority. Every one else is staring at the cheapest NY tickets at $1750 today or other lottery winners subsidizing the senior prices. These policies drive fans to try to win multiple shows which blocks out even more fans. The senior fans get it?
    They could eliminate seniority tomorrow and your chances of getting a great seat go up a fraction of a percent. Hell, the influx of ticket requests might even make it go down.

    I know some people only daydream about the scenarios where the great tickets are handed to them specifically but the reality is your odds would most likely get way worse if they blow up this system.
  • ilockyer
    ilockyer Posts: 2,272
    edited March 2024
    pdalowsky said:
    I've always hated the concept that the tickets closer to the stage should be more expensive. It always felt elitist and prices out so many fans who do not have the wealth of the lucky ones. 

    I also know however there is no perfect system out there, and when they are all the same price resellers clean up. 

    My worst experience of this ever was at a U2 show some years ago, I was pretty flabbergasted that a band who has preached equality for so many years and campaigned tirelessly for it would create a system of disparity of wealth at their shows. The front section was twice the price of the rear standing and for some reason that screamed rank hypocrisy at me.
    U2 always used to make sure that their GA tickets were reasonably priced. I've been to a show on each of the last few tours, and I've not encountered full width pit/rear standing at the shows I've picked. Yes, there'd be some in a front section that were higher priced as part of the Red thing they were doing, but you could get a ticket on the floor at a good price and get up to the front on a normal GA ticket. It was certainly that way on the Joshua Tree tour stadium run. IIRC it was €65 for Amsterdam in 2017.

    They certainly used the lower bowl seating at the o2 Innocence/Experience tours to offset cheaper costs for people on the floor. IIRC there was about £100 difference. 

    There's no perfect way, but the idea that someone in the back of a venue the size of an aircraft hangar should pay the same as the person whose elbows are on the stage is insane. 

    I liked the Stones deal for cheap tickets, you pay £40 and you could end up in a £40 nosebleed or an £800 front pit location, and nobody knew what they had until they collected their tickets at the box office before then having to walk in. 


    The secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits
  • ilockyer
    ilockyer Posts: 2,272
    bootlegger10 said:
    One of the big flaw’s of the lottery is that people put in multiple entries per household and can end up with extras they don’t need.
    Although if they do that for some shows they could get their fingers burned. Apparently the ability to transfer/sell tickets for the UK and Europe is only going to be activated 48 hours before each show. 
    The secret to a happy ending is knowing when to roll the credits
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,299
    edited March 2024
    ilockyer said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    One of the big flaw’s of the lottery is that people put in multiple entries per household and can end up with extras they don’t need.
    Although if they do that for some shows they could get their fingers burned. Apparently the ability to transfer/sell tickets for the UK and Europe is only going to be activated 48 hours before each show. 
    Yikes.  That timeline should be stipulated before the sale so people know the risk.  
  • Haijay
    Haijay Posts: 456
    bootlegger10 said:
    ilockyer said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    One of the big flaw’s of the lottery is that people put in multiple entries per household and can end up with extras they don’t need.
    Although if they do that for some shows they could get their fingers burned. Apparently the ability to transfer/sell tickets for the UK and Europe is only going to be activated 48 hours before each show. 
    Yikes.  That timeline should be stipulated before the sale so people know the risk.  
    bootlegger10 said:
    ilockyer said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    One of the big flaw’s of the lottery is that people put in multiple entries per household and can end up with extras they don’t need.
    Although if they do that for some shows they could get their fingers burned. Apparently the ability to transfer/sell tickets for the UK and Europe is only going to be activated 48 hours before each show. 
    Yikes.  That timeline should be stipulated before the sale so people know the risk.  
    People STILL wouldn’t “get it”
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Haijay said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    ilockyer said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    One of the big flaw’s of the lottery is that people put in multiple entries per household and can end up with extras they don’t need.
    Although if they do that for some shows they could get their fingers burned. Apparently the ability to transfer/sell tickets for the UK and Europe is only going to be activated 48 hours before each show. 
    Yikes.  That timeline should be stipulated before the sale so people know the risk.  
    bootlegger10 said:
    ilockyer said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    One of the big flaw’s of the lottery is that people put in multiple entries per household and can end up with extras they don’t need.
    Although if they do that for some shows they could get their fingers burned. Apparently the ability to transfer/sell tickets for the UK and Europe is only going to be activated 48 hours before each show. 
    Yikes.  That timeline should be stipulated before the sale so people know the risk.  
    People STILL wouldn’t “get it”
    48 hrs before the show is ridiculous if true. 

    People shouldn’t “get  that”

    I doubt it’s true and am willing to bet it was just a misunderstanding with when the tickets barcodes will be available. 
  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,378
    PJNB said:
    Haijay said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    ilockyer said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    One of the big flaw’s of the lottery is that people put in multiple entries per household and can end up with extras they don’t need.
    Although if they do that for some shows they could get their fingers burned. Apparently the ability to transfer/sell tickets for the UK and Europe is only going to be activated 48 hours before each show. 
    Yikes.  That timeline should be stipulated before the sale so people know the risk.  
    bootlegger10 said:
    ilockyer said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    One of the big flaw’s of the lottery is that people put in multiple entries per household and can end up with extras they don’t need.
    Although if they do that for some shows they could get their fingers burned. Apparently the ability to transfer/sell tickets for the UK and Europe is only going to be activated 48 hours before each show. 
    Yikes.  That timeline should be stipulated before the sale so people know the risk.  
    People STILL wouldn’t “get it”
    48 hrs before the show is ridiculous if true. 

    People shouldn’t “get  that”

    I doubt it’s true and am willing to bet it was just a misunderstanding with when the tickets barcodes will be available. 
    That seems very likely. Waiting until a couple of days before the show to allow for transfers doesn’t leave much time for them resolve the inevitable issues that will occur. 
  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,965
    PJNB said:
    Haijay said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    ilockyer said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    One of the big flaw’s of the lottery is that people put in multiple entries per household and can end up with extras they don’t need.
    Although if they do that for some shows they could get their fingers burned. Apparently the ability to transfer/sell tickets for the UK and Europe is only going to be activated 48 hours before each show. 
    Yikes.  That timeline should be stipulated before the sale so people know the risk.  
    bootlegger10 said:
    ilockyer said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    One of the big flaw’s of the lottery is that people put in multiple entries per household and can end up with extras they don’t need.
    Although if they do that for some shows they could get their fingers burned. Apparently the ability to transfer/sell tickets for the UK and Europe is only going to be activated 48 hours before each show. 
    Yikes.  That timeline should be stipulated before the sale so people know the risk.  
    People STILL wouldn’t “get it”
    48 hrs before the show is ridiculous if true. 

    People shouldn’t “get  that”

    I doubt it’s true and am willing to bet it was just a misunderstanding with when the tickets barcodes will be available. 
    In the Chicago ticket transfer thread, someone had contacted TM and TM stated that the Wrigley tickets will not be transferable until the week of the show when the tickets are available in the MLB Ballpark App.  Pretty ridiculous if that's how it plays out.
  • Zen23
    Zen23 Posts: 493
    ilockyer said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    One of the big flaw’s of the lottery is that people put in multiple entries per household and can end up with extras they don’t need.
    Although if they do that for some shows they could get their fingers burned. Apparently the ability to transfer/sell tickets for the UK and Europe is only going to be activated 48 hours before each show. 
    Where did you get the information that tickets can only be offered for resale 48 hours before the concert? The source please.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,218
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Get_Right said:
    pdalowsky said:
    pjl44 said:
    There are few bands who have done as much as Pearl Jam to get incredible seats into the hands of their fans at a reasonable price. I'd be hard pressed to put anyone above them when you factor in how long it's been a priority for them. And you can see how it gets harder and harder as the years go by.
    100%



    People do not get it

    The reasonable prices are only for a subset of fans that win the lottery and also have seniority. Every one else is staring at the cheapest NY tickets at $1750 today or other lottery winners subsidizing the senior prices. These policies drive fans to try to win multiple shows which blocks out even more fans. The senior fans get it?


    There are no subsidies. Pearl Jam at MSG is a tough ticket. Period. Where there is a will there is a way.

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