Lost my seniority?

Fastrichie

Bootleg..exactly. Thanks for the response.. This is all I’d like to sort out. Just wondering what happened. Someone mentioned above about me being mad. They obviously didn’t read this thread as they would know that’s not the case. Just wondering what happened that’s all. Had someone post with a number close to mine. Those are the seats I usually get. There has to be a member # issue although in my profile it says 106077 which is correct. Just want to make sure I’m ok! 

BF25394

They screwed up the ticketing in Seattle in 2009. In those days, you didn't find out where your seats were until the day of the show, so there was no immediate recourse available. I contacted the Ten Club after the fact and complained, and they compensated me in a way that effectively refunded the cost of my ticket.

mace1229

BF25394 said:

They screwed up the ticketing in Seattle in 2009. In those days, you didn't find out where your seats were until the day of the show, so there was no immediate recourse available. I contacted the Ten Club after the fact and complained, and they compensated me in a way that effectively refunded the cost of my ticket.

I’ve heard several people say something similar. And all were very general and non specific.
So what was it? Were you not supposed to disclose or something?

mpedone

bootleg said:

mpedone said:

PureandEasy said:

I have a fairly low number as well, not as low as the OP. 

I’m not defending the 10club and their system of assigning seniority.  I do know it’s worked in the past and I can verify that by experience.  Before I go into that, better seats may be subjective.

A higher member number may have a closer row than a lower number in the same (P1, P2, etc) but are the higher numbers off to the far left/right of the stage in that row?  Does the lower number member have seats further rows back, but center stage? 

Which would you prefer?  It’s subjective.

Being closer to the stage is not always preferable to the best experience.

As far as the 10club system of assigning seniority.  My best PJ buddy and I have very, very close numbers (coincidence as we did not know each other when we joined the club.)  We have both won fanclub tickets to the same shows and we were directly across from each other, the same row, but different sides of the stage. 

It’s a logistical nightmare and I’m sure the 10club does the best they can. 

I’m sorry if some feel cheated, and I get it.  I really do.  However, I don’t think your seats will be reassigned.   Tenclub is not going to respond to even the most polite of inquiries regarding seniority seat assignments.  Assignments have been made.  It’s a done deal.  I hope your anger over this issue does not affect your enjoyment of the shows. 

Maybe this tidbit will help . . .

I got shut out in the lottery, didn’t win a chance for any 10club tickets. 

But my best PJ buddy did and she chose me as her +1 for Philly shows.  We met through this board over 22 years ago.  We live on opposite sides of the country, but this band and the connection made possible by this band, is beyond even the music.  I can’t count the number of shows we’ve attended together, in numerous cities and states and even the magnificent country of Canada. 

Screw where we are in the building, we’ll be together enjoying the music that brought us together.  And that’s a beautiful thing.  

I totally get that some of this is subjective, especially in places like Fenway, which has a whole host of other factors. However, OP is on the other side of the soundboard from me in Baltimore. He's a 100xxx I'm a 500xxx. Even if he's in the front row of that section, it makes no sense. Unless they filled one side of the floor first, then the other, but even then... For an arena show, I would expect at the very least it would just be distance from stage (granted, this might not take into account viewing angle) so you'd see a sort of fan pattern, like an amphitheatre.

All of that said, searching for something else on this forum, I came across posts from 2008 about people with low numbers being assigned "worse" seats than higher numbers (and not part of the "front row" lottery they do for some shows). So... It's not like this is a new issue.

They messed up the row order in State College 03, at least in my section.  It ended up working out in my favor as I had first row on the side which was actually right on the floor.  There were people with lower numbers who were 10-15 rows back in the same section.  But that’s a one off situation.  Those types of things might happen.  OPs concern (and some others) is that there is a big discrepancy in his location for two separate shows which might indicate there is some kind of glitch tied specifically to his member number.  Like he’s being assigned seats like his number is 500xxx and not 100xxx.  Even if there’s nothing that can be done about it this time, if there is something weird like that happening you would want to get that fixed for any future shows.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to dismiss this as not an issue, just pointing out that it's not the first time it's happened, and that those affected probably shouldn't hold their breath for any sort of resolution.

spankyMP

mpedone said:

bootleg said:

mpedone said:

PureandEasy said:

I have a fairly low number as well, not as low as the OP. 

I’m not defending the 10club and their system of assigning seniority.  I do know it’s worked in the past and I can verify that by experience.  Before I go into that, better seats may be subjective.

A higher member number may have a closer row than a lower number in the same (P1, P2, etc) but are the higher numbers off to the far left/right of the stage in that row?  Does the lower number member have seats further rows back, but center stage? 

Which would you prefer?  It’s subjective.

Being closer to the stage is not always preferable to the best experience.

As far as the 10club system of assigning seniority.  My best PJ buddy and I have very, very close numbers (coincidence as we did not know each other when we joined the club.)  We have both won fanclub tickets to the same shows and we were directly across from each other, the same row, but different sides of the stage. 

It’s a logistical nightmare and I’m sure the 10club does the best they can. 

I’m sorry if some feel cheated, and I get it.  I really do.  However, I don’t think your seats will be reassigned.   Tenclub is not going to respond to even the most polite of inquiries regarding seniority seat assignments.  Assignments have been made.  It’s a done deal.  I hope your anger over this issue does not affect your enjoyment of the shows. 

Maybe this tidbit will help . . .

I got shut out in the lottery, didn’t win a chance for any 10club tickets. 

But my best PJ buddy did and she chose me as her +1 for Philly shows.  We met through this board over 22 years ago.  We live on opposite sides of the country, but this band and the connection made possible by this band, is beyond even the music.  I can’t count the number of shows we’ve attended together, in numerous cities and states and even the magnificent country of Canada. 

Screw where we are in the building, we’ll be together enjoying the music that brought us together.  And that’s a beautiful thing.  

I totally get that some of this is subjective, especially in places like Fenway, which has a whole host of other factors. However, OP is on the other side of the soundboard from me in Baltimore. He's a 100xxx I'm a 500xxx. Even if he's in the front row of that section, it makes no sense. Unless they filled one side of the floor first, then the other, but even then... For an arena show, I would expect at the very least it would just be distance from stage (granted, this might not take into account viewing angle) so you'd see a sort of fan pattern, like an amphitheatre.

All of that said, searching for something else on this forum, I came across posts from 2008 about people with low numbers being assigned "worse" seats than higher numbers (and not part of the "front row" lottery they do for some shows). So... It's not like this is a new issue.

They messed up the row order in State College 03, at least in my section.  It ended up working out in my favor as I had first row on the side which was actually right on the floor.  There were people with lower numbers who were 10-15 rows back in the same section.  But that’s a one off situation.  Those types of things might happen.  OPs concern (and some others) is that there is a big discrepancy in his location for two separate shows which might indicate there is some kind of glitch tied specifically to his member number.  Like he’s being assigned seats like his number is 500xxx and not 100xxx.  Even if there’s nothing that can be done about it this time, if there is something weird like that happening you would want to get that fixed for any future shows.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to dismiss this as not an issue, just pointing out that it's not the first time it's happened, and that those affected probably shouldn't hold their breath for any sort of resolution.

But it just happened last year in St Paul (maybe elsewhere too) and they did reallocate the seats after our seats were assigned. So it is known to happen and can be corrected.

BF25394

mace1229 said:

BF25394 said:

They screwed up the ticketing in Seattle in 2009. In those days, you didn't find out where your seats were until the day of the show, so there was no immediate recourse available. I contacted the Ten Club after the fact and complained, and they compensated me in a way that effectively refunded the cost of my ticket.

I’ve heard several people say something similar. And all were very general and non specific.
So what was it? Were you not supposed to disclose or something?

No, I've been specific in other threads. I was just being succinct for once. They gave me a free year's renewal plus two CD bootlegs of my choice. Since I was going to renew anyway, and since I always buy the CDs of shows I attend, it worked out to about the same amount as the cost of the ticket.

And I actually was able to sell my misallotted tickets and then join up with someone else who had an extra and an even better member number than mine to watch the show from a better seat than I would have had if they had done the allocation right. So it worked out great for me all around, other than the scramble I had to do when the person from the board who was supposed to be my plus-one bailed on me when he heard where the seats were and then to sell the extra pair once I had found someone to make me his plus-one.

Fastrichie

BF25394 said:

mace1229 said:

BF25394 said:

They screwed up the ticketing in Seattle in 2009. In those days, you didn't find out where your seats were until the day of the show, so there was no immediate recourse available. I contacted the Ten Club after the fact and complained, and they compensated me in a way that effectively refunded the cost of my ticket.

I’ve heard several people say something similar. And all were very general and non specific.
So what was it? Were you not supposed to disclose or something?

No, I've been specific in other threads. I was just being succinct for once. They gave me a free year's renewal plus two CD bootlegs of my choice. Since I was going to renew anyway, and since I always buy the CDs of shows I attend, it worked out to about the same amount as the cost of the ticket.

And I actually was able to sell my misallotted tickets and then join up with someone else who had an extra and an even better member number than mine to watch the show from a better seat than I would have had if they had done the allocation right. So it worked out great for me all around, other than the scramble I had to do when the person from the board who was supposed to be my plus-one bailed on me when he heard where the seats were and then to sell the extra pair once I had found someone to make me his plus-one.

Interesting BF. Thanks for posting. I’m still hoping for some kind of acknowledgement. Although I was told they got hundreds of emails, (not all about seniority) some about credit cards etc… and they were taking care of those first. We’ll see.

BF25394

Fastrichie said:

BF25394 said:

mace1229 said:

BF25394 said:

They screwed up the ticketing in Seattle in 2009. In those days, you didn't find out where your seats were until the day of the show, so there was no immediate recourse available. I contacted the Ten Club after the fact and complained, and they compensated me in a way that effectively refunded the cost of my ticket.

I’ve heard several people say something similar. And all were very general and non specific.
So what was it? Were you not supposed to disclose or something?

No, I've been specific in other threads. I was just being succinct for once. They gave me a free year's renewal plus two CD bootlegs of my choice. Since I was going to renew anyway, and since I always buy the CDs of shows I attend, it worked out to about the same amount as the cost of the ticket.

And I actually was able to sell my misallotted tickets and then join up with someone else who had an extra and an even better member number than mine to watch the show from a better seat than I would have had if they had done the allocation right. So it worked out great for me all around, other than the scramble I had to do when the person from the board who was supposed to be my plus-one bailed on me when he heard where the seats were and then to sell the extra pair once I had found someone to make me his plus-one.

Interesting BF. Thanks for posting. I’m still hoping for some kind of acknowledgement. Although I was told they got hundreds of emails, (not all about seniority) some about credit cards etc… and they were taking care of those first. We’ll see.

You're welcome. Another funny thing I remembered after posting this was that the misallocated seats I was given were in Row 1 of Section 101, which was actually the farthest section from the stage on the side of the arena. By comparison, the next night, my same member number put me in the fourth row of the section closest to the stage. Anyway, when I went to try to sell my seats, the guy I sold them to was very excited because he thought that Row 1 of Section 101 was the front row, as in right in front of the stage. I kept trying to explain to him that it wasn't but he would not listen to me. I could have probably gotten him to pay a premium if I weren't conscientious and just looking to recoup what I paid.

(By the way, I looked at my ticket stubs when writing this and realized that I misremembered part of the original story. The seats I ended up sitting in the first night were better than the ones that had been misallocated, but not better than the ones I "should" have had based on my member number, at least I'm assuming so based on where they put me the second night.)

As for the guy from the board who bailed on me (technically, he ghosted me once I texted him with the seat location), I'll just say that I'm glad they got rid of the requirement to buy tickets in pairs.

Poncier

bootleg said:

mpedone said:

PureandEasy said:

I have a fairly low number as well, not as low as the OP. 

I’m not defending the 10club and their system of assigning seniority.  I do know it’s worked in the past and I can verify that by experience.  Before I go into that, better seats may be subjective.

A higher member number may have a closer row than a lower number in the same (P1, P2, etc) but are the higher numbers off to the far left/right of the stage in that row?  Does the lower number member have seats further rows back, but center stage? 

Which would you prefer?  It’s subjective.

Being closer to the stage is not always preferable to the best experience.

As far as the 10club system of assigning seniority.  My best PJ buddy and I have very, very close numbers (coincidence as we did not know each other when we joined the club.)  We have both won fanclub tickets to the same shows and we were directly across from each other, the same row, but different sides of the stage. 

It’s a logistical nightmare and I’m sure the 10club does the best they can. 

I’m sorry if some feel cheated, and I get it.  I really do.  However, I don’t think your seats will be reassigned.   Tenclub is not going to respond to even the most polite of inquiries regarding seniority seat assignments.  Assignments have been made.  It’s a done deal.  I hope your anger over this issue does not affect your enjoyment of the shows. 

Maybe this tidbit will help . . .

I got shut out in the lottery, didn’t win a chance for any 10club tickets. 

But my best PJ buddy did and she chose me as her +1 for Philly shows.  We met through this board over 22 years ago.  We live on opposite sides of the country, but this band and the connection made possible by this band, is beyond even the music.  I can’t count the number of shows we’ve attended together, in numerous cities and states and even the magnificent country of Canada. 

Screw where we are in the building, we’ll be together enjoying the music that brought us together.  And that’s a beautiful thing.  

I totally get that some of this is subjective, especially in places like Fenway, which has a whole host of other factors. However, OP is on the other side of the soundboard from me in Baltimore. He's a 100xxx I'm a 500xxx. Even if he's in the front row of that section, it makes no sense. Unless they filled one side of the floor first, then the other, but even then... For an arena show, I would expect at the very least it would just be distance from stage (granted, this might not take into account viewing angle) so you'd see a sort of fan pattern, like an amphitheatre.

All of that said, searching for something else on this forum, I came across posts from 2008 about people with low numbers being assigned "worse" seats than higher numbers (and not part of the "front row" lottery they do for some shows). So... It's not like this is a new issue.

They messed up the row order in State College 03, at least in my section.  It ended up working out in my favor as I had first row on the side which was actually right on the floor.  There were people with lower numbers who were 10-15 rows back in the same section.  But that’s a one off situation.  Those types of things might happen.  OPs concern (and some others) is that there is a big discrepancy in his location for two separate shows which might indicate there is some kind of glitch tied specifically to his member number.  Like he’s being assigned seats like his number is 500xxx and not 100xxx.  Even if there’s nothing that can be done about it this time, if there is something weird like that happening you would want to get that fixed for any future shows.

in 2003 they were still using the "block system" where your 10C number got you into a certain block of tickets and they were handed out by when you arrived at the box office to pick up. So that situation you encountered at Penn State may not necessarily have been a mistake, but just you got your tix earlier in the day than folks with lower member numbers who were in your same block. 

Fastrichie

Poncier said:

bootleg said:

mpedone said:

PureandEasy said:

I have a fairly low number as well, not as low as the OP. 

I’m not defending the 10club and their system of assigning seniority.  I do know it’s worked in the past and I can verify that by experience.  Before I go into that, better seats may be subjective.

A higher member number may have a closer row than a lower number in the same (P1, P2, etc) but are the higher numbers off to the far left/right of the stage in that row?  Does the lower number member have seats further rows back, but center stage? 

Which would you prefer?  It’s subjective.

Being closer to the stage is not always preferable to the best experience.

As far as the 10club system of assigning seniority.  My best PJ buddy and I have very, very close numbers (coincidence as we did not know each other when we joined the club.)  We have both won fanclub tickets to the same shows and we were directly across from each other, the same row, but different sides of the stage. 

It’s a logistical nightmare and I’m sure the 10club does the best they can. 

I’m sorry if some feel cheated, and I get it.  I really do.  However, I don’t think your seats will be reassigned.   Tenclub is not going to respond to even the most polite of inquiries regarding seniority seat assignments.  Assignments have been made.  It’s a done deal.  I hope your anger over this issue does not affect your enjoyment of the shows. 

Maybe this tidbit will help . . .

I got shut out in the lottery, didn’t win a chance for any 10club tickets. 

But my best PJ buddy did and she chose me as her +1 for Philly shows.  We met through this board over 22 years ago.  We live on opposite sides of the country, but this band and the connection made possible by this band, is beyond even the music.  I can’t count the number of shows we’ve attended together, in numerous cities and states and even the magnificent country of Canada. 

Screw where we are in the building, we’ll be together enjoying the music that brought us together.  And that’s a beautiful thing.  

I totally get that some of this is subjective, especially in places like Fenway, which has a whole host of other factors. However, OP is on the other side of the soundboard from me in Baltimore. He's a 100xxx I'm a 500xxx. Even if he's in the front row of that section, it makes no sense. Unless they filled one side of the floor first, then the other, but even then... For an arena show, I would expect at the very least it would just be distance from stage (granted, this might not take into account viewing angle) so you'd see a sort of fan pattern, like an amphitheatre.

All of that said, searching for something else on this forum, I came across posts from 2008 about people with low numbers being assigned "worse" seats than higher numbers (and not part of the "front row" lottery they do for some shows). So... It's not like this is a new issue.

They messed up the row order in State College 03, at least in my section.  It ended up working out in my favor as I had first row on the side which was actually right on the floor.  There were people with lower numbers who were 10-15 rows back in the same section.  But that’s a one off situation.  Those types of things might happen.  OPs concern (and some others) is that there is a big discrepancy in his location for two separate shows which might indicate there is some kind of glitch tied specifically to his member number.  Like he’s being assigned seats like his number is 500xxx and not 100xxx.  Even if there’s nothing that can be done about it this time, if there is something weird like that happening you would want to get that fixed for any future shows.

in 2003 they were still using the "block system" where your 10C number got you into a certain block of tickets and they were handed out by when you arrived at the box office to pick up. So that situation you encountered at Penn State may not necessarily have been a mistake, but just you got your tix earlier in the day than folks with lower member numbers who were in your same block. 

That’s right Poncier I forgot they did that back in 2003. I remember finding out after we got to the Nassau Coliseum. Could’ve got there a lot earlier too!

Fastrichie

Just a quick update. I got a response tonight. Said they were contacting TM to see what happened. Definitely appreciate 10c emailing back. And definitely appreciate all the great people on here!

RatherStarved

Fastrichie said:

Just a quick update. I got a response tonight. Said they were contacting TM to see what happened. Definitely appreciate 10c emailing back. And definitely appreciate all the great people on here!

Oh shit! That could mean reallocations ahead.  They redid it twice last year.  

Zod

mace1229 said:

BF25394 said:

They screwed up the ticketing in Seattle in 2009. In those days, you didn't find out where your seats were until the day of the show, so there was no immediate recourse available. I contacted the Ten Club after the fact and complained, and they compensated me in a way that effectively refunded the cost of my ticket.

I’ve heard several people say something similar. And all were very general and non specific.
So what was it? Were you not supposed to disclose or something?

I don't recall but I've never shared how they made up for it either.  I can't remember if they asked me to or not.  I think they did.. so I shall nothing

pledgeagrievance

Poncier said:

bootleg said:

mpedone said:

PureandEasy said:

I have a fairly low number as well, not as low as the OP. 

I’m not defending the 10club and their system of assigning seniority.  I do know it’s worked in the past and I can verify that by experience.  Before I go into that, better seats may be subjective.

A higher member number may have a closer row than a lower number in the same (P1, P2, etc) but are the higher numbers off to the far left/right of the stage in that row?  Does the lower number member have seats further rows back, but center stage? 

Which would you prefer?  It’s subjective.

Being closer to the stage is not always preferable to the best experience.

As far as the 10club system of assigning seniority.  My best PJ buddy and I have very, very close numbers (coincidence as we did not know each other when we joined the club.)  We have both won fanclub tickets to the same shows and we were directly across from each other, the same row, but different sides of the stage. 

It’s a logistical nightmare and I’m sure the 10club does the best they can. 

I’m sorry if some feel cheated, and I get it.  I really do.  However, I don’t think your seats will be reassigned.   Tenclub is not going to respond to even the most polite of inquiries regarding seniority seat assignments.  Assignments have been made.  It’s a done deal.  I hope your anger over this issue does not affect your enjoyment of the shows. 

Maybe this tidbit will help . . .

I got shut out in the lottery, didn’t win a chance for any 10club tickets. 

But my best PJ buddy did and she chose me as her +1 for Philly shows.  We met through this board over 22 years ago.  We live on opposite sides of the country, but this band and the connection made possible by this band, is beyond even the music.  I can’t count the number of shows we’ve attended together, in numerous cities and states and even the magnificent country of Canada. 

Screw where we are in the building, we’ll be together enjoying the music that brought us together.  And that’s a beautiful thing.  

I totally get that some of this is subjective, especially in places like Fenway, which has a whole host of other factors. However, OP is on the other side of the soundboard from me in Baltimore. He's a 100xxx I'm a 500xxx. Even if he's in the front row of that section, it makes no sense. Unless they filled one side of the floor first, then the other, but even then... For an arena show, I would expect at the very least it would just be distance from stage (granted, this might not take into account viewing angle) so you'd see a sort of fan pattern, like an amphitheatre.

All of that said, searching for something else on this forum, I came across posts from 2008 about people with low numbers being assigned "worse" seats than higher numbers (and not part of the "front row" lottery they do for some shows). So... It's not like this is a new issue.

They messed up the row order in State College 03, at least in my section.  It ended up working out in my favor as I had first row on the side which was actually right on the floor.  There were people with lower numbers who were 10-15 rows back in the same section.  But that’s a one off situation.  Those types of things might happen.  OPs concern (and some others) is that there is a big discrepancy in his location for two separate shows which might indicate there is some kind of glitch tied specifically to his member number.  Like he’s being assigned seats like his number is 500xxx and not 100xxx.  Even if there’s nothing that can be done about it this time, if there is something weird like that happening you would want to get that fixed for any future shows.

in 2003 they were still using the "block system" where your 10C number got you into a certain block of tickets and they were handed out by when you arrived at the box office to pick up. So that situation you encountered at Penn State may not necessarily have been a mistake, but just you got your tix earlier in the day than folks with lower member numbers who were in your same block. 

They did this in 2000 too. Not sure if for every show but I went to all 3 Jones Beach shows and my seats were directly tied to when I arrived. 

Poncier

RatherStarved said:

Fastrichie said:

Just a quick update. I got a response tonight. Said they were contacting TM to see what happened. Definitely appreciate 10c emailing back. And definitely appreciate all the great people on here!

Oh shit! That could mean reallocations ahead.  They redid it twice last year.  

I doubt they'll do a full scale reallocation.
The issues this year seem to be a much smaller number. There are definitely some people who got allocated wrong, but it's not widespread like last year where the whole thing was clearly f'ed up by TM. Seems vast majority of folks are where they belong, so they'll hopefully take care of Fastrichie and some others, but doubt we see a compete reallocation.

Poncier

pledgeagrievance said:

Poncier said:

bootleg said:

mpedone said:

PureandEasy said:

I have a fairly low number as well, not as low as the OP. 

I’m not defending the 10club and their system of assigning seniority.  I do know it’s worked in the past and I can verify that by experience.  Before I go into that, better seats may be subjective.

A higher member number may have a closer row than a lower number in the same (P1, P2, etc) but are the higher numbers off to the far left/right of the stage in that row?  Does the lower number member have seats further rows back, but center stage? 

Which would you prefer?  It’s subjective.

Being closer to the stage is not always preferable to the best experience.

As far as the 10club system of assigning seniority.  My best PJ buddy and I have very, very close numbers (coincidence as we did not know each other when we joined the club.)  We have both won fanclub tickets to the same shows and we were directly across from each other, the same row, but different sides of the stage. 

It’s a logistical nightmare and I’m sure the 10club does the best they can. 

I’m sorry if some feel cheated, and I get it.  I really do.  However, I don’t think your seats will be reassigned.   Tenclub is not going to respond to even the most polite of inquiries regarding seniority seat assignments.  Assignments have been made.  It’s a done deal.  I hope your anger over this issue does not affect your enjoyment of the shows. 

Maybe this tidbit will help . . .

I got shut out in the lottery, didn’t win a chance for any 10club tickets. 

But my best PJ buddy did and she chose me as her +1 for Philly shows.  We met through this board over 22 years ago.  We live on opposite sides of the country, but this band and the connection made possible by this band, is beyond even the music.  I can’t count the number of shows we’ve attended together, in numerous cities and states and even the magnificent country of Canada. 

Screw where we are in the building, we’ll be together enjoying the music that brought us together.  And that’s a beautiful thing.  

I totally get that some of this is subjective, especially in places like Fenway, which has a whole host of other factors. However, OP is on the other side of the soundboard from me in Baltimore. He's a 100xxx I'm a 500xxx. Even if he's in the front row of that section, it makes no sense. Unless they filled one side of the floor first, then the other, but even then... For an arena show, I would expect at the very least it would just be distance from stage (granted, this might not take into account viewing angle) so you'd see a sort of fan pattern, like an amphitheatre.

All of that said, searching for something else on this forum, I came across posts from 2008 about people with low numbers being assigned "worse" seats than higher numbers (and not part of the "front row" lottery they do for some shows). So... It's not like this is a new issue.

They messed up the row order in State College 03, at least in my section.  It ended up working out in my favor as I had first row on the side which was actually right on the floor.  There were people with lower numbers who were 10-15 rows back in the same section.  But that’s a one off situation.  Those types of things might happen.  OPs concern (and some others) is that there is a big discrepancy in his location for two separate shows which might indicate there is some kind of glitch tied specifically to his member number.  Like he’s being assigned seats like his number is 500xxx and not 100xxx.  Even if there’s nothing that can be done about it this time, if there is something weird like that happening you would want to get that fixed for any future shows.

in 2003 they were still using the "block system" where your 10C number got you into a certain block of tickets and they were handed out by when you arrived at the box office to pick up. So that situation you encountered at Penn State may not necessarily have been a mistake, but just you got your tix earlier in the day than folks with lower member numbers who were in your same block. 

They did this in 2000 too. Not sure if for every show but I went to all 3 Jones Beach shows and my seats were directly tied to when I arrived. 

Yeah, block system was in use in 2000 and 2003. They still mailed them out in 98 if I recall and in 2006 (might have been 2005, I didn't venture to Canada) they started having them already in an envelope waiting for pick up based on your seniority.
I do believe there was one (or maybe a few times) where someone at the box office handed the blocks out backwards, starting from the bottom of the pile and folks who got there early ended up in the back of their block instead of the front. Can't recall which show(s) but do recall word of that happening at least once. So, no system has ever been foolproof.

Fastrichie

Poncier said:

RatherStarved said:

Fastrichie said:

Just a quick update. I got a response tonight. Said they were contacting TM to see what happened. Definitely appreciate 10c emailing back. And definitely appreciate all the great people on here!

Oh shit! That could mean reallocations ahead.  They redid it twice last year.  

I doubt they'll do a full scale reallocation.
The issues this year seem to be a much smaller number. There are definitely some people who got allocated wrong, but it's not widespread like last year where the whole thing was clearly f'ed up by TM. Seems vast majority of folks are where they belong, so they'll hopefully take care of Fastrichie and some others, but doubt we see a compete reallocation.

Agreed Poncier…looking at the responses I got on here and on FB pages, the tickets seemed to be spot on with the people’s membership #’s. Definitely a few isolated incidents. Glad they responsed!

Peasant Tents

I got an email today, just with a full list of Q and A’s.  

No reference to the fact that members from 2010 , 2008 and 2014 have seats in front side block while I have seats in the last block on the side.   Joined in 2003.   

In Manchester there’s no seats on the fooor so it’s purely about how far back I am.   

Fastrichie

Peasant Tents said:

I got an email today, just with a full list of Q and A’s.  

No reference to the fact that members from 2010 , 2008 and 2014 have seats in front side block while I have seats in the last block on the side.   Joined in 2003.   

In Manchester there’s no seats on the fooor so it’s purely about how far back I am.   

PT… yes I got a few of those too. Generic. Last one I got was an actual reply.

Peasant Tents

Fastrichie said:

Peasant Tents said:

I got an email today, just with a full list of Q and A’s.  

No reference to the fact that members from 2010 , 2008 and 2014 have seats in front side block while I have seats in the last block on the side.   Joined in 2003.   

In Manchester there’s no seats on the fooor so it’s purely about how far back I am.   

PT… yes I got a few of those too. Generic. Last one I got was an actual reply.

Thanks for letting know F.    Did you send another email or just wait?   I don’t want to get annoying with the guys.   10c has always been amazing on stuff like this but the generic email seems like any other business approach which is a bit of a shame.