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Lost my seniority?

FastrichieFastrichie Posts: 917
edited February 23 in The Porch
  Was lucky enough to win a few shows. I have a pretty low 10C number, 106xxx and have been treated to many great seats over the years. For this tour it seems as if I lost my seniority for the shows I was picked for. I'm way back on the floor at Baltimore and Philly while I'm seeing people with way higher numbers post their seats and they are better than mine! Talking to people with similar #'s as me I would think I would be near them! Yes my 10C number is correct when I log in on here!! Happy to be in the building of course and can't wait but just wondering what may have happened and did it happen to anyone else! Emailed the 10c but no response. All the seats were P1.
Thanks for listening!
04/06/94 Springfield, 04/17/94 NYC, 10/02/96 Hartford, 11/14/97 Oakland, 09/08/98 NJ, 09/10/98 MSG, 09/11/98 MSG, 09/13/98 Hartford, 08/24/00 Jones Beach, 08/25/00 Jones Beach 04/30/03 Uniondale, 07/08/03 MSG, 07/09/03 MSG, 09/28/04 Boston, 10/01/05 Borgata, 10/03/05 Philly, 05/13/06 Hartford 05/25/06 Boston, 06/01/06 NJ, 06/03/06 NJ, 08/05/07 Chicago, 06/24/08 MSG, 06/25/08 MSG, 06/27/08 Hartford, 06/30/08 Mansfield, 07/01/08 The Beacon, 08/21/09 Toronto, 10/27/09 Philly, 10/28/09 Philly, 10/30/09 Philly, 10/31/09 Philly, 05/15/2010 Hartford, 05/17/2010 Boston, 05/20/2010 MSG, 05/21/2010 MSG, Montreal 09/07/2011, Philly 09/01/2012, Wrigley 07/19-20,2013, Worcester 10/16/13, Brooklyn 10/18, Brooklyn 10/19/13, Hartford 10/25/13, Ed Sullivan 09/23/2015, Central Park 09/26/2015 Philly 04/29/2016. MSG 05/01/2016, MSG 05/02/2016, Fenway 08/05/2016, Fenway 08/07/2016, Brooklyn 04/07/2017, Seattle 08/08/2018, Seattle 08/10/2018, Chicago 08/20/2018, Fenway 09/02/2018, Fenway 09/04/2018, Asbury Park 09/18/2021, Apollo Theater 09/10/2022, MSG 09/11/2022, Camden 09/14/2022


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  • mookieblalockmookieblalock Posts: 3,277
    If your number is still the same in your account, it sounds like the mistake is on someone else, not you. Wait for a response from 10c, but maybe just verify your last membership payment went through. Again, if your 106xxx number is still in your profile/account, it’s likely not your error.  
  • FastrichieFastrichie Posts: 917
    edited February 23
    mookieblalock said:
    If your number is still the same in your account, it sounds like the mistake is on someone else, not you. Wait for a response from 10c, but maybe just verify your last membership payment went through. Again, if your 106xxx number is still in your profile/account, it’s likely not your error.  
    Thanks for responding MookieB. Yea it did. Here is a current screen shot..Beleive me I checked!! Hopefully I hear back. Ticketstoday has no clue about the seniority or how it works.



    Post edited by Fastrichie on
    04/06/94 Springfield, 04/17/94 NYC, 10/02/96 Hartford, 11/14/97 Oakland, 09/08/98 NJ, 09/10/98 MSG, 09/11/98 MSG, 09/13/98 Hartford, 08/24/00 Jones Beach, 08/25/00 Jones Beach 04/30/03 Uniondale, 07/08/03 MSG, 07/09/03 MSG, 09/28/04 Boston, 10/01/05 Borgata, 10/03/05 Philly, 05/13/06 Hartford 05/25/06 Boston, 06/01/06 NJ, 06/03/06 NJ, 08/05/07 Chicago, 06/24/08 MSG, 06/25/08 MSG, 06/27/08 Hartford, 06/30/08 Mansfield, 07/01/08 The Beacon, 08/21/09 Toronto, 10/27/09 Philly, 10/28/09 Philly, 10/30/09 Philly, 10/31/09 Philly, 05/15/2010 Hartford, 05/17/2010 Boston, 05/20/2010 MSG, 05/21/2010 MSG, Montreal 09/07/2011, Philly 09/01/2012, Wrigley 07/19-20,2013, Worcester 10/16/13, Brooklyn 10/18, Brooklyn 10/19/13, Hartford 10/25/13, Ed Sullivan 09/23/2015, Central Park 09/26/2015 Philly 04/29/2016. MSG 05/01/2016, MSG 05/02/2016, Fenway 08/05/2016, Fenway 08/07/2016, Brooklyn 04/07/2017, Seattle 08/08/2018, Seattle 08/10/2018, Chicago 08/20/2018, Fenway 09/02/2018, Fenway 09/04/2018, Asbury Park 09/18/2021, Apollo Theater 09/10/2022, MSG 09/11/2022, Camden 09/14/2022


  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,503
    Fastrichie said:
    mookieblalock said:
    If your number is still the same in your account, it sounds like the mistake is on someone else, not you. Wait for a response from 10c, but maybe just verify your last membership payment went through. Again, if your 106xxx number is still in your profile/account, it’s likely not your error.  
    Thanks for responding MookieB. Yea it did. Here is a current screen shot..Beleive me I checked!!



    Contact the Ten Club (politely) with the specifics of your seats and the details of the other members who you believe got better placement. They probably won't be able to re-allocate your seats, but they may give you other concessions. (This happened to me in 2009. The concessions essentially offset the price of my ticket for the show where they screwed up.)
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • FastrichieFastrichie Posts: 917
    BF25394 said:
    Fastrichie said:
    mookieblalock said:
    If your number is still the same in your account, it sounds like the mistake is on someone else, not you. Wait for a response from 10c, but maybe just verify your last membership payment went through. Again, if your 106xxx number is still in your profile/account, it’s likely not your error.  

    Contact the Ten Club (politely) with the specifics of your seats and the details of the other members who you believe got better placement. They probably won't be able to re-allocate your seats, but they may give you other concessions. (This happened to me in 2009. The concessions essentially offset the price of my ticket for the show where they screwed up.)
    Thanks for the info BF...I was definitely polite when contacting the 10C. I emailed tickets@tenclub.net. Hope that is correct.
    04/06/94 Springfield, 04/17/94 NYC, 10/02/96 Hartford, 11/14/97 Oakland, 09/08/98 NJ, 09/10/98 MSG, 09/11/98 MSG, 09/13/98 Hartford, 08/24/00 Jones Beach, 08/25/00 Jones Beach 04/30/03 Uniondale, 07/08/03 MSG, 07/09/03 MSG, 09/28/04 Boston, 10/01/05 Borgata, 10/03/05 Philly, 05/13/06 Hartford 05/25/06 Boston, 06/01/06 NJ, 06/03/06 NJ, 08/05/07 Chicago, 06/24/08 MSG, 06/25/08 MSG, 06/27/08 Hartford, 06/30/08 Mansfield, 07/01/08 The Beacon, 08/21/09 Toronto, 10/27/09 Philly, 10/28/09 Philly, 10/30/09 Philly, 10/31/09 Philly, 05/15/2010 Hartford, 05/17/2010 Boston, 05/20/2010 MSG, 05/21/2010 MSG, Montreal 09/07/2011, Philly 09/01/2012, Wrigley 07/19-20,2013, Worcester 10/16/13, Brooklyn 10/18, Brooklyn 10/19/13, Hartford 10/25/13, Ed Sullivan 09/23/2015, Central Park 09/26/2015 Philly 04/29/2016. MSG 05/01/2016, MSG 05/02/2016, Fenway 08/05/2016, Fenway 08/07/2016, Brooklyn 04/07/2017, Seattle 08/08/2018, Seattle 08/10/2018, Chicago 08/20/2018, Fenway 09/02/2018, Fenway 09/04/2018, Asbury Park 09/18/2021, Apollo Theater 09/10/2022, MSG 09/11/2022, Camden 09/14/2022


  • aspoonfulweighsatonaspoonfulweighsaton Posts: 2,036
    I thought things were all random for a while now?  My friend is 92xxx and got pretty terrible P2 seats for Philly.  Am I missing something or by your logic should he have had better seats (or GA)?
  • spankyMPspankyMP Posts: 1,854
    The seats appear to be messed up again.
    Randall's Island 9/29/96, Continental Arena 9/8/98, MSG 9/10/98, Jones Beach 8/23/00, 8/24/00, 8/25/00, Nassau Coliseum 4/30/03, MSG 7/8/03, 7/9/03, Continental Arena 6/1/06, 6/3/06, MSG 6/24/08, 6/25/08, Spectrum 10/30/09, 10/31/09, MSG 5/20/10, 5/21/10, PJ20 9/3/11, 9/4/11, Charlottesville 10/29/13, Charlotte 10/30/13, Global Citizen 9/26/15, Raleigh 4/20/16 :( Baltimore 3/28/20 :( Austin 9/18/23, 9/19/23, Forum 5/21/24, Baltimore 9/12/24, Fenway 9/17/24
  • ST66483ST66483 Posts: 769
    I could be wrong here but if you had a low 10c number but got selected for p2 then you could still have worse seats than in the past. All the best in sorting this out.
  • FastrichieFastrichie Posts: 917
    aspoonfulweighsaton said:
    I thought things were all random for a while now?  My friend is 92xxx and got pretty terrible P2 seats for Philly.  Am I missing something or by your logic should he have had better seats (or GA)?
    It’s only random getting picked for the shows. Seating should be by seniority. P2 is something different. I believe this is the first year they offered P2 but they made it clear where the seats would be.
    04/06/94 Springfield, 04/17/94 NYC, 10/02/96 Hartford, 11/14/97 Oakland, 09/08/98 NJ, 09/10/98 MSG, 09/11/98 MSG, 09/13/98 Hartford, 08/24/00 Jones Beach, 08/25/00 Jones Beach 04/30/03 Uniondale, 07/08/03 MSG, 07/09/03 MSG, 09/28/04 Boston, 10/01/05 Borgata, 10/03/05 Philly, 05/13/06 Hartford 05/25/06 Boston, 06/01/06 NJ, 06/03/06 NJ, 08/05/07 Chicago, 06/24/08 MSG, 06/25/08 MSG, 06/27/08 Hartford, 06/30/08 Mansfield, 07/01/08 The Beacon, 08/21/09 Toronto, 10/27/09 Philly, 10/28/09 Philly, 10/30/09 Philly, 10/31/09 Philly, 05/15/2010 Hartford, 05/17/2010 Boston, 05/20/2010 MSG, 05/21/2010 MSG, Montreal 09/07/2011, Philly 09/01/2012, Wrigley 07/19-20,2013, Worcester 10/16/13, Brooklyn 10/18, Brooklyn 10/19/13, Hartford 10/25/13, Ed Sullivan 09/23/2015, Central Park 09/26/2015 Philly 04/29/2016. MSG 05/01/2016, MSG 05/02/2016, Fenway 08/05/2016, Fenway 08/07/2016, Brooklyn 04/07/2017, Seattle 08/08/2018, Seattle 08/10/2018, Chicago 08/20/2018, Fenway 09/02/2018, Fenway 09/04/2018, Asbury Park 09/18/2021, Apollo Theater 09/10/2022, MSG 09/11/2022, Camden 09/14/2022


  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,992
    I don't think it really matters. I have in the mid 100s and have had "bad" seats and on a couple of occasions good seats and other times didn't win. People with higher numbers than me have had better seats throughout the years.
    I miss igotid88
  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,503
    aspoonfulweighsaton said:
    I thought things were all random for a while now?  My friend is 92xxx and got pretty terrible P2 seats for Philly.  Am I missing something or by your logic should he have had better seats (or GA)?
    No, seats are assigned based on seniority, as they have been in prior years. Seniority is not relevant for obtaining tickets, or for the GA section. But sometimes they screw up when assign the seats.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • FastrichieFastrichie Posts: 917
    edited February 23
    ST66483 said:
    I could be wrong here but if you had a low 10c number but got selected for p2 then you could still have worse seats than in the past. All the best in sorting this out.
    ST66483 said:
    I could be wrong here but if you had a low 10c number but got selected for p2 then you could still have worse seats than in the past. All the best in sorting this out.
    I did not pick P2 and the seats are on the floor where P2 were uppers.
    Post edited by Fastrichie on
    04/06/94 Springfield, 04/17/94 NYC, 10/02/96 Hartford, 11/14/97 Oakland, 09/08/98 NJ, 09/10/98 MSG, 09/11/98 MSG, 09/13/98 Hartford, 08/24/00 Jones Beach, 08/25/00 Jones Beach 04/30/03 Uniondale, 07/08/03 MSG, 07/09/03 MSG, 09/28/04 Boston, 10/01/05 Borgata, 10/03/05 Philly, 05/13/06 Hartford 05/25/06 Boston, 06/01/06 NJ, 06/03/06 NJ, 08/05/07 Chicago, 06/24/08 MSG, 06/25/08 MSG, 06/27/08 Hartford, 06/30/08 Mansfield, 07/01/08 The Beacon, 08/21/09 Toronto, 10/27/09 Philly, 10/28/09 Philly, 10/30/09 Philly, 10/31/09 Philly, 05/15/2010 Hartford, 05/17/2010 Boston, 05/20/2010 MSG, 05/21/2010 MSG, Montreal 09/07/2011, Philly 09/01/2012, Wrigley 07/19-20,2013, Worcester 10/16/13, Brooklyn 10/18, Brooklyn 10/19/13, Hartford 10/25/13, Ed Sullivan 09/23/2015, Central Park 09/26/2015 Philly 04/29/2016. MSG 05/01/2016, MSG 05/02/2016, Fenway 08/05/2016, Fenway 08/07/2016, Brooklyn 04/07/2017, Seattle 08/08/2018, Seattle 08/10/2018, Chicago 08/20/2018, Fenway 09/02/2018, Fenway 09/04/2018, Asbury Park 09/18/2021, Apollo Theater 09/10/2022, MSG 09/11/2022, Camden 09/14/2022


  • patkelly12patkelly12 Posts: 361
    Fastrichie said:
    aspoonfulweighsaton said:
    I thought things were all random for a while now?  My friend is 92xxx and got pretty terrible P2 seats for Philly.  Am I missing something or by your logic should he have had better seats (or GA)?
    It’s only random getting picked for the shows. Seating should be by seniority. P2 is something different. I believe this is the first year they offered P2 but they made it clear where the seats would be.

    ST66483 is right. Seniority doesn't determine P1 or P2. What did the confirm email say? The original one earlier in the week.
  • marra2312marra2312 Posts: 60
    aspoonfulweighsaton said:
    I thought things were all random for a while now?  My friend is 92xxx and got pretty terrible P2 seats for Philly.  Am I missing something or by your logic should he have had better seats (or GA)?

    Getting picked is random. Seniority comes in when assigning seats within a category. If there was a P1 and a P2 option, a low 10C number for P2 is still going to be worse than a high 10C P1. 

    Had he got P1 seats, his number would have got him good seats in that category. But there was the random element of getting picked out of the hat to overcome first. 

    There's also an unknown element, which is how the seating is prioritised by TM. Some people would say that being on the floor is always better than in stands. Others would disagree. We don't quite know how TM determines that. So what could be bad seats for one person (in their opinion) might be perceived by the system as being better seats. 
  • FastrichieFastrichie Posts: 917
    igotid88 said:
    I don't think it really matters. I have in the mid 100s and have had "bad" seats and on a couple of occasions good seats and other times didn't win. People with higher numbers than me have had better seats throughout the years.
    Definitely, I agree. But the seats I got are way off! That’s the only reason I’m asking.
    04/06/94 Springfield, 04/17/94 NYC, 10/02/96 Hartford, 11/14/97 Oakland, 09/08/98 NJ, 09/10/98 MSG, 09/11/98 MSG, 09/13/98 Hartford, 08/24/00 Jones Beach, 08/25/00 Jones Beach 04/30/03 Uniondale, 07/08/03 MSG, 07/09/03 MSG, 09/28/04 Boston, 10/01/05 Borgata, 10/03/05 Philly, 05/13/06 Hartford 05/25/06 Boston, 06/01/06 NJ, 06/03/06 NJ, 08/05/07 Chicago, 06/24/08 MSG, 06/25/08 MSG, 06/27/08 Hartford, 06/30/08 Mansfield, 07/01/08 The Beacon, 08/21/09 Toronto, 10/27/09 Philly, 10/28/09 Philly, 10/30/09 Philly, 10/31/09 Philly, 05/15/2010 Hartford, 05/17/2010 Boston, 05/20/2010 MSG, 05/21/2010 MSG, Montreal 09/07/2011, Philly 09/01/2012, Wrigley 07/19-20,2013, Worcester 10/16/13, Brooklyn 10/18, Brooklyn 10/19/13, Hartford 10/25/13, Ed Sullivan 09/23/2015, Central Park 09/26/2015 Philly 04/29/2016. MSG 05/01/2016, MSG 05/02/2016, Fenway 08/05/2016, Fenway 08/07/2016, Brooklyn 04/07/2017, Seattle 08/08/2018, Seattle 08/10/2018, Chicago 08/20/2018, Fenway 09/02/2018, Fenway 09/04/2018, Asbury Park 09/18/2021, Apollo Theater 09/10/2022, MSG 09/11/2022, Camden 09/14/2022


  • FastrichieFastrichie Posts: 917
    patkelly12 said:
    Fastrichie said:
    aspoonfulweighsaton said:
    I thought things were all random for a while now?  My friend is 92xxx and got pretty terrible P2 seats for Philly.  Am I missing something or by your logic should he have had better seats (or GA)?
    It’s only random getting picked for the shows. Seating should be by seniority. P2 is something different. I believe this is the first year they offered P2 but they made it clear where the seats would be.

    ST66483 is right. Seniority doesn't determine P1 or P2. What did the confirm email say? The original one earlier in the week.
    Pat…I got all P1s.
    04/06/94 Springfield, 04/17/94 NYC, 10/02/96 Hartford, 11/14/97 Oakland, 09/08/98 NJ, 09/10/98 MSG, 09/11/98 MSG, 09/13/98 Hartford, 08/24/00 Jones Beach, 08/25/00 Jones Beach 04/30/03 Uniondale, 07/08/03 MSG, 07/09/03 MSG, 09/28/04 Boston, 10/01/05 Borgata, 10/03/05 Philly, 05/13/06 Hartford 05/25/06 Boston, 06/01/06 NJ, 06/03/06 NJ, 08/05/07 Chicago, 06/24/08 MSG, 06/25/08 MSG, 06/27/08 Hartford, 06/30/08 Mansfield, 07/01/08 The Beacon, 08/21/09 Toronto, 10/27/09 Philly, 10/28/09 Philly, 10/30/09 Philly, 10/31/09 Philly, 05/15/2010 Hartford, 05/17/2010 Boston, 05/20/2010 MSG, 05/21/2010 MSG, Montreal 09/07/2011, Philly 09/01/2012, Wrigley 07/19-20,2013, Worcester 10/16/13, Brooklyn 10/18, Brooklyn 10/19/13, Hartford 10/25/13, Ed Sullivan 09/23/2015, Central Park 09/26/2015 Philly 04/29/2016. MSG 05/01/2016, MSG 05/02/2016, Fenway 08/05/2016, Fenway 08/07/2016, Brooklyn 04/07/2017, Seattle 08/08/2018, Seattle 08/10/2018, Chicago 08/20/2018, Fenway 09/02/2018, Fenway 09/04/2018, Asbury Park 09/18/2021, Apollo Theater 09/10/2022, MSG 09/11/2022, Camden 09/14/2022


  • patkelly12patkelly12 Posts: 361
    Fastrichie said:
    patkelly12 said:
    Fastrichie said:
    aspoonfulweighsaton said:
    I thought things were all random for a while now?  My friend is 92xxx and got pretty terrible P2 seats for Philly.  Am I missing something or by your logic should he have had better seats (or GA)?
    It’s only random getting picked for the shows. Seating should be by seniority. P2 is something different. I believe this is the first year they offered P2 but they made it clear where the seats would be.

    ST66483 is right. Seniority doesn't determine P1 or P2. What did the confirm email say? The original one earlier in the week.
    Pat…I got all P1s.

    Then I agree something is off.
  • FastrichieFastrichie Posts: 917
    marra2312 said:
    aspoonfulweighsaton said:
    I thought things were all random for a while now?  My friend is 92xxx and got pretty terrible P2 seats for Philly.  Am I missing something or by your logic should he have had better seats (or GA)?

    Getting picked is random. Seniority comes in when assigning seats within a category. If there was a P1 and a P2 option, a low 10C number for P2 is still going to be worse than a high 10C P1. 

    Had he got P1 seats, his number would have got him good seats in that category. But there was the random element of getting picked out of the hat to overcome first. 

    There's also an unknown element, which is how the seating is prioritised by TM. Some people would say that being on the floor is always better than in stands. Others would disagree. We don't quite know how TM determines that. So what could be bad seats for one person (in their opinion) might be perceived by the system as being better seats. 
    Mara, I got all P1s. But you bring up an interesting point on the floor. I only can tell you I know where I usually get seats and people in the 200000s are in section 2!
    04/06/94 Springfield, 04/17/94 NYC, 10/02/96 Hartford, 11/14/97 Oakland, 09/08/98 NJ, 09/10/98 MSG, 09/11/98 MSG, 09/13/98 Hartford, 08/24/00 Jones Beach, 08/25/00 Jones Beach 04/30/03 Uniondale, 07/08/03 MSG, 07/09/03 MSG, 09/28/04 Boston, 10/01/05 Borgata, 10/03/05 Philly, 05/13/06 Hartford 05/25/06 Boston, 06/01/06 NJ, 06/03/06 NJ, 08/05/07 Chicago, 06/24/08 MSG, 06/25/08 MSG, 06/27/08 Hartford, 06/30/08 Mansfield, 07/01/08 The Beacon, 08/21/09 Toronto, 10/27/09 Philly, 10/28/09 Philly, 10/30/09 Philly, 10/31/09 Philly, 05/15/2010 Hartford, 05/17/2010 Boston, 05/20/2010 MSG, 05/21/2010 MSG, Montreal 09/07/2011, Philly 09/01/2012, Wrigley 07/19-20,2013, Worcester 10/16/13, Brooklyn 10/18, Brooklyn 10/19/13, Hartford 10/25/13, Ed Sullivan 09/23/2015, Central Park 09/26/2015 Philly 04/29/2016. MSG 05/01/2016, MSG 05/02/2016, Fenway 08/05/2016, Fenway 08/07/2016, Brooklyn 04/07/2017, Seattle 08/08/2018, Seattle 08/10/2018, Chicago 08/20/2018, Fenway 09/02/2018, Fenway 09/04/2018, Asbury Park 09/18/2021, Apollo Theater 09/10/2022, MSG 09/11/2022, Camden 09/14/2022


  • FastrichieFastrichie Posts: 917
    patkelly12 said:
    Fastrichie said:
    patkelly12 said:
    Fastrichie said:
    aspoonfulweighsaton said:
    I thought things were all random for a while now?  My friend is 92xxx and got pretty terrible P2 seats for Philly.  Am I missing something or by your logic should he have had better seats (or GA)?
    It’s only random getting picked for the shows. Seating should be by seniority. P2 is something different. I believe this is the first year they offered P2 but they made it clear where the seats would be.

    ST66483 is right. Seniority doesn't determine P1 or P2. What did the confirm email say? The original one earlier in the week.
    Pat…I got all P1s.

    Then I agree something is off.
    Yea I’m assuming. Appreciate your responses/questions.
    04/06/94 Springfield, 04/17/94 NYC, 10/02/96 Hartford, 11/14/97 Oakland, 09/08/98 NJ, 09/10/98 MSG, 09/11/98 MSG, 09/13/98 Hartford, 08/24/00 Jones Beach, 08/25/00 Jones Beach 04/30/03 Uniondale, 07/08/03 MSG, 07/09/03 MSG, 09/28/04 Boston, 10/01/05 Borgata, 10/03/05 Philly, 05/13/06 Hartford 05/25/06 Boston, 06/01/06 NJ, 06/03/06 NJ, 08/05/07 Chicago, 06/24/08 MSG, 06/25/08 MSG, 06/27/08 Hartford, 06/30/08 Mansfield, 07/01/08 The Beacon, 08/21/09 Toronto, 10/27/09 Philly, 10/28/09 Philly, 10/30/09 Philly, 10/31/09 Philly, 05/15/2010 Hartford, 05/17/2010 Boston, 05/20/2010 MSG, 05/21/2010 MSG, Montreal 09/07/2011, Philly 09/01/2012, Wrigley 07/19-20,2013, Worcester 10/16/13, Brooklyn 10/18, Brooklyn 10/19/13, Hartford 10/25/13, Ed Sullivan 09/23/2015, Central Park 09/26/2015 Philly 04/29/2016. MSG 05/01/2016, MSG 05/02/2016, Fenway 08/05/2016, Fenway 08/07/2016, Brooklyn 04/07/2017, Seattle 08/08/2018, Seattle 08/10/2018, Chicago 08/20/2018, Fenway 09/02/2018, Fenway 09/04/2018, Asbury Park 09/18/2021, Apollo Theater 09/10/2022, MSG 09/11/2022, Camden 09/14/2022


  • marra2312marra2312 Posts: 60
    Fastrichie said:
    marra2312 said:
    aspoonfulweighsaton said:
    I thought things were all random for a while now?  My friend is 92xxx and got pretty terrible P2 seats for Philly.  Am I missing something or by your logic should he have had better seats (or GA)?

    Getting picked is random. Seniority comes in when assigning seats within a category. If there was a P1 and a P2 option, a low 10C number for P2 is still going to be worse than a high 10C P1. 

    Had he got P1 seats, his number would have got him good seats in that category. But there was the random element of getting picked out of the hat to overcome first. 

    There's also an unknown element, which is how the seating is prioritised by TM. Some people would say that being on the floor is always better than in stands. Others would disagree. We don't quite know how TM determines that. So what could be bad seats for one person (in their opinion) might be perceived by the system as being better seats. 
    Mara, I got all P1s. But you bring up an interesting point on the floor. I only can tell you I know where I usually get seats and people in the 200000s are in section 2!

    I was responding to the person who was talking about their friend with P2 seats and a low 10C number. Their situation is not the same as your situation. Their situation is more easily explained away.

    I'd expect your seats to be worse than they have been in previous years. Because of the introduction of the premium tickets, pretty much all 10C tickets have been worse than they used to be, no matter how low a number someone has.

    However, you should not be getting worse seats than other 10C members with higher numbers. If that is happening, it's a problem.
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,992
    Fastrichie said:
    igotid88 said:
    I don't think it really matters. I have in the mid 100s and have had "bad" seats and on a couple of occasions good seats and other times didn't win. People with higher numbers than me have had better seats throughout the years.
    Definitely, I agree. But the seats I got are way off! That’s the only reason I’m asking.
    On average my seats are in the 200s. But in 2022 I had sec F and in 2010 I had row z I believe behind the GA people
    I miss igotid88
  • PureandEasyPureandEasy Posts: 5,800
    marra2312 said:
    aspoonfulweighsaton said:
    I thought things were all random for a while now?  My friend is 92xxx and got pretty terrible P2 seats for Philly.  Am I missing something or by your logic should he have had better seats (or GA)?

    Getting picked is random. Seniority comes in when assigning seats within a category. If there was a P1 and a P2 option, a low 10C number for P2 is still going to be worse than a high 10C P1. 

    Had he got P1 seats, his number would have got him good seats in that category. But there was the random element of getting picked out of the hat to overcome first. 

    There's also an unknown element, which is how the seating is prioritised by TM. Some people would say that being on the floor is always better than in stands. Others would disagree. We don't quite know how TM determines that. So what could be bad seats for one person (in their opinion) might be perceived by the system as being better seats. 
    Seniority comes in when assigning seats within a category.  Enough said.  I've been around this board too long and for too many tours.  I need to stop torturing myself reading people trying to explain the logic of it all. If you were lucky enough to secure tickets at face value without all the TM fees, enjoy the show.  I've been to many and have never been disappointed. 
  • UseUrIllusionsUseUrIllusions Posts: 537
    All I can say is TM is doing this now. 😒
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  • FastrichieFastrichie Posts: 917
    edited February 23
    PureandEasy said:
    marra2312 said:
    aspoonfulweighsaton said:
    I thought things were all random for a while now?  My friend is 92xxx and got pretty terrible P2 seats for Philly.  Am I missing something or by your logic should he have had better seats (or GA)?

    Getting picked is random. Seniority comes in when assigning seats within a category. If there was a P1 and a P2 option, a low 10C number for P2 is still going to be worse than a high 10C P1. 

    Had he got P1 seats, his number would have got him good seats in that category. But there was the random element of getting picked out of the hat to overcome first. 

    There's also an unknown element, which is how the seating is prioritised by TM. Some people would say that being on the floor is always better than in stands. Others would disagree. We don't quite know how TM determines that. So what could be bad seats for one person (in their opinion) might be perceived by the system as being better seats. 
    Seniority comes in when assigning seats within a category.  Enough said.  I've been around this board too long and for too many tours.  I need to stop torturing myself reading people trying to explain the logic of it all. If you were lucky enough to secure tickets at face value without all the TM fees, enjoy the show.  I've been to many and have never been disappointed. 
    Yes exactly. P1 should give me better seats than other people in P1 with a higher number correct? Just asking a legit question. If you read I said I’m happy to have tix but just looking for an explanation. 
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  • spankyMPspankyMP Posts: 1,854
    edited February 23
    There are multiple examples of seniority not being properly applied within same seating areas, whether or not they reallocate is another story. It was done last year, but some are saying it’s too late now that tickets are in our TM accounts. I am waiting to hear from 10C as well. Happy with my seats, but they aren’t what I expected and you are not the only one not sitting near similar member numbers in same seating area.
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  • SHZASHZA Posts: 3,933
    They could easily fix it by giving you platinum seats 
  • mookieblalockmookieblalock Posts: 3,277
    Why are people trying to convince this guy he got the right tickets? 

    There was clearly a mistake and his seats should be much better. End of story. Good luck OP, I hope they rectify this for you.
  • FastrichieFastrichie Posts: 917
    SHZA said:
    They could easily fix it by giving you platinum seats 
    Ha! I didn’t even think of that! Thanks SHZA!
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  • FastrichieFastrichie Posts: 917
    edited February 23
    mookieblalock said:
    Why are people trying to convince this guy he got the right tickets? 

    There was clearly a mistake and his seats should be much better. End of story. Good luck OP, I hope they rectify this for you.
    Thank you Mookyb I appreciate it. I definitely got the wrong seats by mistake.

    Does anyone know a good email for contact? I sent to tickets@tenclub.net.
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  • spankyMPspankyMP Posts: 1,854
    mookieblalock said:
    Why are people trying to convince this guy he got the right tickets? 

    There was clearly a mistake and his seats should be much better. End of story. Good luck OP, I hope they rectify this for you.
    This!
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,992
    SHZA said:
    They could easily fix it by giving you platinum seats 
    SHZA said:
    They could easily fix it by giving you platinum seats 
    Platinum seats are spread throughout. Someone next to him/her might be in a platinum seat 
    I miss igotid88
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