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one_stoneone_stone Posts: 291
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Ok. What I have somehow been afraid of happend...

Now the seat confirmations for reserved seats in Berlin have arrived and actually we have gotten really ?good? seats - at least on paper. The sectors are those closest to the stage, but at Waldbühne I have a feeling that this is only half the truth? 

I (and surely many others) have been assigned seats in sector A1, first sector from the right of stage, and even on the very right of the sector. I have been to all PJ Waldbühne shows so far and have never sat close to A1 or probably even parts of A2 as they are so far right and beginning to turn away from the stage that I thought you wouldn't see anything. I usually took seats in the lower part of D2 or B1. 

I checked another concert at Waldbühne with reserved seating (Peter Maffay - see here:https://www.eventim.de/event/peter-maffay-band-we-love-rock-n-roll-farewell-tour-2024-waldbuehne-berlin-18001943/) and for that show the seats in A1 and E2 are actually considered "eventuell sichtbehindert" (maybe obstructed view) and are price category 4 - even worse than the seats on the second rank...

So.... anybody with experience - who has already sat there (A1 - lowest 10 rows), please report your experience (quickly, so that I know if I need to buy seats in the public sale)
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    one_stoneone_stone Posts: 291


    snippet from the other concert - E2 / A1 marked as "obstructed view" and as a worse category than the light blue marked seats
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    one_stoneone_stone Posts: 291


    Picture from the web, actually from Pearl Jam there at 2018, taken from the last row of A1 for refrence.

    From here it looks terrible, but I can't say how much better it is from the rows further down
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    marumarukomarumaruko Frankfurt / Calgary Posts: 83
    edited February 22
    This is the exact view from section A.. I guess starting from seats numbered 10 and up in the higher rows it will be hard to see properly.

    At this point I expect B, C and D to be Diamond Level and especially expensive. 

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    one_stoneone_stone Posts: 291
    edited February 22
    Yeah but that is acutally the view of section A2. A1 are the seats on the right side of this picture. betweeen the steps and the green hedge. If you have a seat number 01 in sector A1 you sit on the very right side at the green hedge, next to that wall
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    marumarukomarumaruko Frankfurt / Calgary Posts: 83
    edited February 22
    one_stone said:
    Yeah but that is acutally the view of section A2. A1 are the seats on the right side of this picture. betweeen the steps and the green hedge. If you have a seat number 01 in sector A1 you sit on the very right side at the green hedge, next to that wall
    doesn't seat number 1 start always from the middle, as that is where you enter from? 

    That sucks for the higher numbers. 
    I got seats in row 25, 7-8. Ok, that is bad. I won't see at all. 
    They should be free... wth
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    Jamer196Jamer196 Posts: 346
    I got Tickets for E2 ...
    Last time we were at E1 and they were great
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    one_stoneone_stone Posts: 291
    marumaruko said:
    one_stone said:
    Yeah but that is acutally the view of section A2. A1 are the seats on the right side of this picture. betweeen the steps and the green hedge. If you have a seat number 01 in sector A1 you sit on the very right side at the green hedge, next to that wall
    doesn't seat number 1 start always from the middle, as that is where you enter from? 


    actually not at Waldbühne what it looks like (again taken from the seating chart of the other concert)
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    one_stoneone_stone Posts: 291
    edited February 22
    Jamer196 said:
    I got Tickets for E2 ...
    Last time we were at E1 and they were great
    E2 is the same as A1 only on the other side. E2 is the leftmost sector, E1 is the one before. Which row did you sit in? I have a feeling that the first 10 rows or so might be really good?
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    marumarukomarumaruko Frankfurt / Calgary Posts: 83
    edited February 22
    one_stone said:
    marumaruko said:
    one_stone said:
    Yeah but that is acutally the view of section A2. A1 are the seats on the right side of this picture. betweeen the steps and the green hedge. If you have a seat number 01 in sector A1 you sit on the very right side at the green hedge, next to that wall
    doesn't seat number 1 start always from the middle, as that is where you enter from? 


    actually not at Waldbühne what it looks like (again taken from the seating chart of the other concert)
    Hmm that is bad (I'm in row 25, 7-8)..  oh no... this is heartbreaking.
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    Jamer196Jamer196 Posts: 346
    edited February 22
    2022 I think 4 or 5th row next to the bushes.
    2024 we got:
    Sec E2, Row 16, 
    Sec E2, Row 23, 

    One thing I can't see how they will do is the seat numbers since it's all benches and if the people are a little bigger next to you, you loose half your sit ...
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    one_stoneone_stone Posts: 291
    Jamer196 said:
    2022 I think 4 or 5th row next to the bushes.
    2024 we got:
    Sec E2, Row 16, Seats 4-3
    Sec E2, Row 23, Seats 19-18

    One thing I can't see how they will do is the seat numbers since it's all benches and if the people are a little bigger next to you, you loose half your sit ...
    How was row 4/5 next to the bushes?
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    Jamer196Jamer196 Posts: 346
    Great
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    one_stoneone_stone Posts: 291
    Jamer196 said:
    Great
    I ll take your word for it  :) That's about the seats I got
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    marumarukomarumaruko Frankfurt / Calgary Posts: 83
    edited February 22
    The seats with obstructed view will at least have the screen, but what a shitty excuse to just not build the stage a bit further in the back. 
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    Jamer196Jamer196 Posts: 346
    one_stone said:
    Jamer196 said:
    Great
    I ll take your word for it  :) That's about the seats I got
    If I could choose I would go there again.
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    one_stoneone_stone Posts: 291
    Jamer196 said:
    one_stone said:
    Jamer196 said:
    Great
    I ll take your word for it  :) That's about the seats I got
    If I could choose I would go there again.
    Thank you so much for the response / opinion. :) Having looked at different photos I actually think the rows 5 / 6 will be amazing. I got one night in A1 and one night in E2 within those rows!
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    mrk2mrk2 Finland Posts: 2,026
    marumaruko said:
    The seats with obstructed view will at least have the screen, but what a shitty excuse to just not build the stage a bit further in the back. 
    Well, the people who built the venue and stage have done some pretty fucked up things, so this doesn't rank very high on that list.
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    Jamer196Jamer196 Posts: 346
    one_stone said:
    Jamer196 said:
    one_stone said:
    Jamer196 said:
    Great
    I ll take your word for it  :) That's about the seats I got
    If I could choose I would go there again.
    Thank you so much for the response / opinion. :) Having looked at different photos I actually think the rows 5 / 6 will be amazing. I got one night in A1 and one night in E2 within those rows!
    This is my photo from 2022:


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    holo92holo92 Posts: 182
    Thanks for the photo, but the bushes are like 10 or 12 seats left...
    06/15/92, 08/14/95, 11/03/96, 09/11/98, 06/11/00, 06/23/00, 06/25/00, 06/18/03, 06/21/03, 09/28/04,
    09/02/05, 09/04/05, 09/05/05, 09/16/06, 09/17/06, 09/19/06, 09/22/06, 09/23/06, 06/12/07, 06/18/07,
    06/21/07, 06/23/07, 06/24/08, 06/25/08, 08/15/09, 08/18/09, 06/30/10, 09/03/11, 09/04/11, 07/02/12,
    07/04/12, 07/07/12, 06/16/14, 06/17/14, 06/26/14, 08/05/16, 08/07/16, 07/01/18, 07/03/18, 07/05/18,
    09/02/18, 09/04/18, 06/21/22, 06/28/22, 07/14/22
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    mrk2mrk2 Finland Posts: 2,026
    edited February 22
    Here's another picture from the E-section (2018). Don't know if this helps anyone, but here you go:

    This side was better, since it was in the shade during the long wait.


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    Jamer196Jamer196 Posts: 346
    Same place photo to the right



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    holo92holo92 Posts: 182
    Looks like you were in E1, and within E1 on the right side.
    But we talk about E2, left of you, and the seats 1,2... are the ones on the very left border.
    06/15/92, 08/14/95, 11/03/96, 09/11/98, 06/11/00, 06/23/00, 06/25/00, 06/18/03, 06/21/03, 09/28/04,
    09/02/05, 09/04/05, 09/05/05, 09/16/06, 09/17/06, 09/19/06, 09/22/06, 09/23/06, 06/12/07, 06/18/07,
    06/21/07, 06/23/07, 06/24/08, 06/25/08, 08/15/09, 08/18/09, 06/30/10, 09/03/11, 09/04/11, 07/02/12,
    07/04/12, 07/07/12, 06/16/14, 06/17/14, 06/26/14, 08/05/16, 08/07/16, 07/01/18, 07/03/18, 07/05/18,
    09/02/18, 09/04/18, 06/21/22, 06/28/22, 07/14/22
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    PJKnopfPJKnopf Posts: 51
    holo92 said:
    But we talk about E2, left of you, and the seats 1,2... are the ones on the very left border.
    No, that's not correct.
    The numbering at Waldbühne always starts with seat no.1 on each right side of the section.
    Seat no. 1 in section E2 is on its right (inner) side. In row 1 it's seat no. 10 which is the far outer one.
    Seat no. 1 in section A1 is also on the right (here: outer side).
    From the outer side of the first 10 rows you still might have a good view on Mike's / Stone's side but everything above it is almost "behind" the stage.


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    Kurt Brutus BaconKurt Brutus Bacon Posts: 78
    edited April 30
    one_stone said:
    Ok. What I have somehow been afraid of happend...

    Now the seat confirmations for reserved seats in Berlin have arrived and actually we have gotten really ?good? seats - at least on paper. The sectors are those closest to the stage, but at Waldbühne I have a feeling that this is only half the truth? 

    I (and surely many others) have been assigned seats in sector A1, first sector from the right of stage, and even on the very right of the sector. I have been to all PJ Waldbühne shows so far and have never sat close to A1 or probably even parts of A2 as they are so far right and beginning to turn away from the stage that I thought you wouldn't see anything. I usually took seats in the lower part of D2 or B1. 

    I checked another concert at Waldbühne with reserved seating (Peter Maffay - see here:https://www.eventim.de/event/peter-maffay-band-we-love-rock-n-roll-farewell-tour-2024-waldbuehne-berlin-18001943/) and for that show the seats in A1 and E2 are actually considered "eventuell sichtbehindert" (maybe obstructed view) and are price category 4 - even worse than the seats on the second rank...

    So.... anybody with experience - who has already sat there (A1 - lowest 10 rows), please report your experience (quickly, so that I know if I need to buy seats in the public sale)
    .
    Post edited by Kurt Brutus Bacon on
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    holo92holo92 Posts: 182
    Ok, sorry.
    But jamer196-photos are still from E1, right side.
    And my thoughts are correct for A1. There you have bad luck, if you are in seat 1,2- far out.
    In E1 you have a problem with high seat numbers then.
    06/15/92, 08/14/95, 11/03/96, 09/11/98, 06/11/00, 06/23/00, 06/25/00, 06/18/03, 06/21/03, 09/28/04,
    09/02/05, 09/04/05, 09/05/05, 09/16/06, 09/17/06, 09/19/06, 09/22/06, 09/23/06, 06/12/07, 06/18/07,
    06/21/07, 06/23/07, 06/24/08, 06/25/08, 08/15/09, 08/18/09, 06/30/10, 09/03/11, 09/04/11, 07/02/12,
    07/04/12, 07/07/12, 06/16/14, 06/17/14, 06/26/14, 08/05/16, 08/07/16, 07/01/18, 07/03/18, 07/05/18,
    09/02/18, 09/04/18, 06/21/22, 06/28/22, 07/14/22
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    Jamer196Jamer196 Posts: 346
    holo92 said:
    Ok, sorry.
    But jamer196-photos are still from E1, right side.
    And my thoughts are correct for A1. There you have bad luck, if you are in seat 1,2- far out.
    In E1 you have a problem with high seat numbers then.
    You are correct they are E1 as I said in my first post 2022 I was in E1 and 2024 will be E2

    Jamer196 said:
    I got Tickets for E2 ...
    Last time we were at E1 and they were great

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    Kurt Brutus BaconKurt Brutus Bacon Posts: 78
    edited February 23
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    Post edited by Kurt Brutus Bacon on
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    PJKnopfPJKnopf Posts: 51
    E1 should be ok but E2 as well as A1 and especially rows 10 upwards are definately not the best in that venue.
    At least for the second gig I'll try to go for different tickets in tomorrow's public sale as I have been confirmed for row 25 in E2.

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    holo92holo92 Posts: 182
    If you have a lower row, that is still ok
    06/15/92, 08/14/95, 11/03/96, 09/11/98, 06/11/00, 06/23/00, 06/25/00, 06/18/03, 06/21/03, 09/28/04,
    09/02/05, 09/04/05, 09/05/05, 09/16/06, 09/17/06, 09/19/06, 09/22/06, 09/23/06, 06/12/07, 06/18/07,
    06/21/07, 06/23/07, 06/24/08, 06/25/08, 08/15/09, 08/18/09, 06/30/10, 09/03/11, 09/04/11, 07/02/12,
    07/04/12, 07/07/12, 06/16/14, 06/17/14, 06/26/14, 08/05/16, 08/07/16, 07/01/18, 07/03/18, 07/05/18,
    09/02/18, 09/04/18, 06/21/22, 06/28/22, 07/14/22
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    rahjiimrahjiim Posts: 130
    Jamer196 said:
    one_stone said:
    Jamer196 said:
    one_stone said:
    Jamer196 said:
    Great
    I ll take your word for it  :) That's about the seats I got
    If I could choose I would go there again.
    Thank you so much for the response / opinion. :) Having looked at different photos I actually think the rows 5 / 6 will be amazing. I got one night in A1 and one night in E2 within those rows!
    This is my photo from 2022:


    I can See myself in that picture. The view was great! 
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