I ll take your word for it That's about the seats I got
If I could choose I would go there again.
Thank you so much for the response / opinion. Having looked at different photos I actually think the rows 5 / 6 will be amazing. I got one night in A1 and one night in E2 within those rows!
This is my photo from 2022:
I can see myself in that picture. The view was great!
E1 should be ok but E2 as well as A1 and especially rows 10 upwards are definately not the best in that venue. At least for the second gig I'll try to go for different tickets in tomorrow's public sale as I have been confirmed for row 25 in E2.
Row 25 in E2 sounds bad. My assumption by now is like yours. Row 10 is the tipping point for those sectors where the view goes downhill very fast. I'm really surprised they sold the sector this far up. (33 is the last row - see my pic in the beginning of the thread for that view 😞
Are you senior members at 10c? A1 and E2 in lower rows are definitely not the best seats in the venue especially to the outer sides. B, C, D is the place to be. A2 and E1 are also very good. Been to any of those sections as Waldbühne is my second living room.
Are you senior members at 10c? A1 and E2 in lower rows are definitely not the best seats in the venue especially to the outer sides. B, C, D is the place to be. A2 and E1 are also very good. Been to any of those sections as Waldbühne is my second living room.
Membership Nr 299xxx got me 5/6 row for both nights in those sectors. I agree with you. Usually have gone to the sectors you mentioned
If they really filled up the whole sector up to the back with 10c I think they made a mistake/ didn't take the venue layout into account and there will be a lot of really angry people when they come in the venue and see what they paid 350 EUR for...
Are you senior members at 10c? A1 and E2 in lower rows are definitely not the best seats in the venue especially to the outer sides. B, C, D is the place to be. A2 and E1 are also very good. Been to any of those sections as Waldbühne is my second living room.
Membership Nr 299xxx got me 5/6 row for both nights in those sectors. I agree with you. Usually have gone to the sectors you mentioned
That sounds like a mistake. 10c must have thought those are the best sections.
Are you senior members at 10c? A1 and E2 in lower rows are definitely not the best seats in the venue especially to the outer sides. B, C, D is the place to be. A2 and E1 are also very good. Been to any of those sections as Waldbühne is my second living room.
Membership Nr 299xxx got me 5/6 row for both nights in those sectors. I agree with you. Usually have gone to the sectors you mentioned
That sounds like a mistake. 10c must have thought those are the best sections.
...there is a reason why seats in A1 and E2 are lower priced than seats in far upper sections for any other recent concert and that is not very difficult to find out...
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At least in 2018 the central section, below the soundboard was reserved for special guests, family etc. They eventually let some fans in as well to fill in the gaps. We moved there since our row in the E section started getting pretty crowded. The guest section was great, plenty of space and I met J Mascis who was sitting a couple of rows above us.
Are you senior members at 10c? A1 and E2 in lower rows are definitely not the best seats in the venue especially to the outer sides. B, C, D is the place to be. A2 and E1 are also very good. Been to any of those sections as Waldbühne is my second living room.
Membership Nr 299xxx got me 5/6 row for both nights in those sectors. I agree with you. Usually have gone to the sectors you mentioned
That sounds like a mistake. 10c must have thought those are the best sections.
That's what I think too....
Have been in A2 and E1 before, that was great. Now one night in A1 and also kinda worried about the view from there!
But let's hope for the best. I'm happy though with my GA for the other night.
From what I have seen so far, seems that E2 and A1 are the sections for the 10c members. And yes, these are the only 2 sections with "possibly obstructed view". Definitely not the best category (even one of the cheapest ones for other artists at this venue),
I remember that when we entered the venue in 2022, I thought about sitting in E2 at first, at it was the closest sector to the stage, but my friends pointed out, that it might be difficult to see everything on stage from there, as the stage was quite high and there were speakers on the corner of the stage. So we ended up in E1 (might have been row 4), which was a good choice.
I am not sure if a lower row number in E2 (or A1) is better. Maybe its even worse, if that means that you are facing the speakers etc. on the corner of the stage directly. But also, if you are looking at pictures of the Waldbühne, you mostly see people sitting in lower rows in these sections. So maybe the lower rows are better? I just don´t know.
What I know is that we have paid a lot for one of the worst categories (without knowing in advance, where we might end up). If in the end all 10c members should end up in E2 and A1, then obviously the seating chart in the 10c lottery was absolutely misleading, as all the sections had the same colour. They could have easily marked those sections on the seating chart in the lottery. And now refering to the possibilty to get better seats in the upcoming public sale: Even if you should be able to get better seats there, there would still be the problem, that you would need to sell your 10c tickets, which might be more expensive (or even overpriced) than the ones in the public sale.
I got the impression that Americans like to be side stage for whatever reason. Maybe that's why 10c chose these sections. Personally I hate being side stage not just because of the maybe obstructed view but mainly because of the worse sound. Public sale starts in about an hour and at least for one gig I'll try to be more central.
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Now the seat confirmations for reserved seats in Berlin have arrived and actually we have gotten really ?good? seats - at least on paper. The sectors are those closest to the stage, but at Waldbühne I have a feeling that this is only half the truth?
I (and surely many others) have been assigned seats in sector A1, first sector from the right of stage, and even on the very right of the sector. I have been to all PJ Waldbühne shows so far and have never sat close to A1 or probably even parts of A2 as they are so far right and beginning to turn away from the stage that I thought you wouldn't see anything. I usually took seats in the lower part of D2 or B1.
So.... anybody with experience - who has already sat there (A1 - lowest 10 rows), please report your experience (quickly, so that I know if I need to buy seats in the public sale)
I was in that section for the 2022 and it was great. Would absolutely have those seats again.
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Hmmm....at the verified sale there were already over 20,000 people in the queue at 10 a.m. So with a capacity of around 22,000 in the Waldbühne, these tickets will probably sell out very quickly...we'll keeping our TenClub tickets.
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...still trying to get tix at least for July 3rd. Been able to chose tix for section C1 and then there was a "technical issue" at checkout. Sorry, but it's a total mess once again...
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A few positive/negative takeaways from the public / registered fan sale:
* Great Job for 10c that we have gotten our tickets hassle-free!! * Pricing was the same as 10c tickets * Bringing up eventim as a second option in the sale was bad (I actually never saw a single ticket show up there) * I didn't get tempted with good tickets to buy them instead of the 10c allocated tickets
Having crawled through an endless stream of pictures from seats from Waldbühne I think:
* 10c sections should have been A2 and E1 instead of A1 and E2, somebody with knowledge of the venue should have seen that / prepared it that way. Probably more livenations fault than 10c who might have requested something like "10c get's the sections closest to stage") * A1 and E2 will be good / great for those in the lower rows of the sections (row 10 and below) and average to extremly awful for those in the higher rows (10 - 33). The higher, the worse. Worst seat - and that would be not only for the section but something like "worst seat in the house" - would be E2 / Row 33 / Seat 27/28 and A1 / Row 33 / Seat 01/02.
If your 10c tickets are somewhere near that probably consider F2F before having a bad surprise on show day
That's why I chose to go for GA, because I wasn't sure where the 10c-seating-tickets would be.
Never in the world would I thought, that 10c would give its members sections which are labeled as "might have obstructed view" by eventim (biggest German ticket seller) and often are sold at a lower price. That should not happen.
That's why I chose to go for GA, because I wasn't sure where the 10c-seating-tickets would be.
Never in the world would I thought, that 10c would give its members sections which are labeled as "might have obstructed view" by eventim (biggest German ticket seller) and often are sold at a lower price. That should not happen.
Yeah - I was thinking about doing that too - but I soo much love the view from the (good) seats at Waldbühne that I took the chance. Fingers crossed that my membership number and the resulting rows have spared me from real bad seats.
mine is a medium to bad number, so I didn't want to role the dice. But 10c members should not be afraid to get shitty seats with obstructed view no matter what their number is.
Didn't something similar happen last year in the US and was corrected later? Maybe 10c will correct this as well (but I would not holding my breath)
I checked both TM an Eventim. Was even easier to get to the step of being able to buy tickets on Eventim. Was still in the waiting room over at TM, when I could have already chosen my tickets on Eventim.
Anyways: Eventim offered only one price-categegory for both seated and standing tickets (174,50 Euro) on TM the cheapest ticket was 174,50 Euro and the most expensive was "PJ Premium" for 349 for one reserved seat.
Prices are crazy, lucky you if you are willing to spend EUR 175 for a concert ticket. I won't be part of this. Have fun!
What I would have expected to see in the registered fan sale would have been different/cheaper price categories for the higher up seats (has been a rumor based on a telephone call to live nation Germany) but that didn't happen. 175 EUR for excellent seats / golden circle is hefty but nowadays probably close to standard but 175 EUR for the seats in the upper ranks is ridiculous! (I just haven't seen if there were upper ranks available in the registered fan sale)
I checked both TM an Eventim. Was even easier to get to the step of being able to buy tickets on Eventim. Was still in the waiting room over at TM, when I could have already chosen my tickets on Eventim.
Anyways: Eventim offered only one price-categegory for both seated and standing tickets (174,50 Euro) on TM the cheapest ticket was 174,50 Euro and the most expensive was "PJ Premium" for 349 for one reserved seat.
Did you get a ticket in your basket on the eventim site?
The queue was super small and I got to the ticket page immediately but I didn't manage to cart a single ticket over the course of half an hour...
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If they really filled up the whole sector up to the back with 10c I think they made a mistake/ didn't take the venue layout into account and there will be a lot of really angry people when they come in the venue and see what they paid 350 EUR for...
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But let's hope for the best. I'm happy though with my GA for the other night.
I remember that when we entered the venue in 2022, I thought about sitting in E2 at first, at it was the closest sector to the stage, but my friends pointed out, that it might be difficult to see everything on stage from there, as the stage was quite high and there were speakers on the corner of the stage. So we ended up in E1 (might have been row 4), which was a good choice.
I am not sure if a lower row number in E2 (or A1) is better. Maybe its even worse, if that means that you are facing the speakers etc. on the corner of the stage directly. But also, if you are looking at pictures of the Waldbühne, you mostly see people sitting in lower rows in these sections. So maybe the lower rows are better? I just don´t know.
What I know is that we have paid a lot for one of the worst categories (without knowing in advance, where we might end up).
If in the end all 10c members should end up in E2 and A1, then obviously the seating chart in the 10c lottery was absolutely misleading, as all the sections had the same colour. They could have easily marked those sections on the seating chart in the lottery.
And now refering to the possibilty to get better seats in the upcoming public sale: Even if you should be able to get better seats there, there would still be the problem, that you would need to sell your 10c tickets, which might be more expensive (or even overpriced) than the ones in the public sale.
Another picture from 2022:
Maybe that's why 10c chose these sections.
Personally I hate being side stage not just because of the maybe obstructed view but mainly because of the worse sound.
Public sale starts in about an hour and at least for one gig I'll try to be more central.
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Eddie Vedder Düsseldorf 06/30/2019
"The future ain't what it used to be..."
Been able to chose tix for section C1 and then there was a "technical issue" at checkout.
Sorry, but it's a total mess once again...
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Eddie Vedder Düsseldorf 06/30/2019
"The future ain't what it used to be..."
* Great Job for 10c that we have gotten our tickets hassle-free!!
* Pricing was the same as 10c tickets
* Bringing up eventim as a second option in the sale was bad (I actually never saw a single ticket show up there)
* I didn't get tempted with good tickets to buy them instead of the 10c allocated tickets
Having crawled through an endless stream of pictures from seats from Waldbühne I think:
* 10c sections should have been A2 and E1 instead of A1 and E2, somebody with knowledge of the venue should have seen that / prepared it that way. Probably more livenations fault than 10c who might have requested something like "10c get's the sections closest to stage")
* A1 and E2 will be good / great for those in the lower rows of the sections (row 10 and below) and average to extremly awful for those in the higher rows (10 - 33). The higher, the worse. Worst seat - and that would be not only for the section but something like "worst seat in the house" - would be E2 / Row 33 / Seat 27/28 and A1 / Row 33 / Seat 01/02.
If your 10c tickets are somewhere near that probably consider F2F before having a bad surprise on show day
Never in the world would I thought, that 10c would give its members sections which are labeled as "might have obstructed view" by eventim (biggest German ticket seller) and often are sold at a lower price. That should not happen.
Didn't something similar happen last year in the US and was corrected later? Maybe 10c will correct this as well (but I would not holding my breath)
Was even easier to get to the step of being able to buy tickets on Eventim. Was still in the waiting room over at TM, when I could have already chosen my tickets on Eventim.
Anyways: Eventim offered only one price-categegory for both seated and standing tickets (174,50 Euro) on TM the cheapest ticket was 174,50 Euro and the most expensive was "PJ Premium" for 349 for one reserved seat.
The queue was super small and I got to the ticket page immediately but I didn't manage to cart a single ticket over the course of half an hour...