"Dark Matter" and its tracks on the charts

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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,627
    Original post updated for charts for week ending October 26, 2024.

    "Waiting for Stevie" inches up from No. 22 to No. 21 in its seventh week on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart and rebounds from No. 48 to a new peak of No. 37 in its fourth week on the Rock & Alternative Airplay chart.

    "Wreckage" drops from No. 5 to No. 7 on the Canada Rock chart after previously topping that chart for eight weeks.
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,044
    BF25394 said:
    Original post updated for charts for week ending October 26, 2024.

    "Waiting for Stevie" inches up from No. 22 to No. 21 in its seventh week on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart and rebounds from No. 48 to a new peak of No. 37 in its fourth week on the Rock & Alternative Airplay chart.

    "Wreckage" drops from No. 5 to No. 7 on the Canada Rock chart after previously topping that chart for eight weeks.
    Hopefully that's a sign of good things. 
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,044
    They can and should promote this album all of next year as well. They can release 2 or 3 more singles. React/Respond would be great. Then Won't Tell. I would say late winter/early spring for React and May-ish for Won't Tell. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    igotid88 said:
    They can and should promote this album all of next year as well. They can release 2 or 3 more singles. React/Respond would be great. Then Won't Tell. I would say late winter/early spring for React and May-ish for Won't Tell. 
    I don't think React Respond would be a good single. Won't Tell would be though. 


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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 93,184
    igotid88 said:
    They can and should promote this album all of next year as well. They can release 2 or 3 more singles. React/Respond would be great. Then Won't Tell. I would say late winter/early spring for React and May-ish for Won't Tell. 

    Indeed. Promote right into 2025. In 2 weeks they will be playing Australia. Have a feeling their latest single off the album will be Won't Tell.
  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,627
    Original post updated for charts for week ending November 2, 2024.

    "Waiting for Stevie" jumps from No. 21 to No. 17 in its eighth week on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart and surges from No. 37 to a new peak of No. 25 in its fifth week on the Rock & Alternative Airplay chart.

    "Wreckage" drops from No. 7 to No. 9 on the Canada Rock chart after previously topping that chart for eight weeks.
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  • spankyMPspankyMP NY to NC to NH Posts: 1,957
    BF25394 said:
    Original post updated for charts for week ending November 2, 2024.

    "Waiting for Stevie" jumps from No. 21 to No. 17 in its eighth week on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart and surges from No. 37 to a new peak of No. 25 in its fifth week on the Rock & Alternative Airplay chart.

    "Wreckage" drops from No. 7 to No. 9 on the Canada Rock chart after previously topping that chart for eight weeks.
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 93,184
    BF25394 said:
    Original post updated for charts for week ending November 2, 2024.

    "Waiting for Stevie" jumps from No. 21 to No. 17 in its eighth week on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart and surges from No. 37 to a new peak of No. 25 in its fifth week on the Rock & Alternative Airplay chart.

    "Wreckage" drops from No. 7 to No. 9 on the Canada Rock chart after previously topping that chart for eight weeks.


  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,627
    Original post updated for charts for week ending November 9, 2024.

    "Waiting for Stevie" edges up from No. 17 to No. 16 in its ninth week on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart and climbs from No. 25 to a new peak of No. 21 in its sixth week on the Rock & Alternative Airplay chart.

    Billboard seems to have removed its Canada Rock chart. I'm not sure if this is an error or if it has been discontinued.
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 93,184
    BF25394 said:
    Original post updated for charts for week ending November 9, 2024.

    "Waiting for Stevie" edges up from No. 17 to No. 16 in its ninth week on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart and climbs from No. 25 to a new peak of No. 21 in its sixth week on the Rock & Alternative Airplay chart.

    Billboard seems to have removed its Canada Rock chart. I'm not sure if this is an error or if it has been discontinued.

    Hope that's an error.
  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,627
    Original post updated for charts for week ending November 16, 2024.

    "Waiting for Stevie" holds at No. 16 in its tenth week on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart and climbs from No. 21 to a new peak of No. 17 in its seventh week on the Rock & Alternative Airplay chart.
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,044
    BF25394 said:
    Original post updated for charts for week ending November 16, 2024.

    "Waiting for Stevie" holds at No. 16 in its tenth week on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart and climbs from No. 21 to a new peak of No. 17 in its seventh week on the Rock & Alternative Airplay chart.
    Liking this slow build. Hope it continues. Usually they peak early and after a few weeks stations stop playing them
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,627
    That's not at all what happened with "Wreckage" and not really what happened with "Dark Matter" either. It took "Wreckage" eleven weeks to hit number one at Mainstream Rock, fifteen weeks to hit number one at Triple-A and twelve weeks to hit its peak at Alternative.
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,044
    BF25394 said:
    That's not at all what happened with "Wreckage" and not really what happened with "Dark Matter" either. It took "Wreckage" eleven weeks to hit number one at Mainstream Rock, fifteen weeks to hit number one at Triple-A and twelve weeks to hit its peak at Alternative.
    That's true. But it seems that way. I remember hearing their new single the first 2 weeks then nothing 
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,627
    Original post updated for charts for week ending November 23, 2024.

    "Waiting for Stevie" moves from No. 16 to No. 15 in its eleventh week on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart and climbs from No. 17 to No. 16 in its eighth week on the Rock & Alternative Airplay chart. Both of this week's positions are new peaks.
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 93,184
    BF25394 said:
    Original post updated for charts for week ending November 23, 2024.

    "Waiting for Stevie" moves from No. 16 to No. 15 in its eleventh week on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart and climbs from No. 17 to No. 16 in its eighth week on the Rock & Alternative Airplay chart. Both of this week's positions are new peaks.

    Excellent!
  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,627
    Original post updated for charts for week ending November 30, 2024.

    "Waiting for Stevie" drops from its peak of No. 15 to No. 16 in its twelfth week on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart and climbs from No. 16 to a new peak of No. 14 in its ninth week on the Rock & Alternative Airplay chart.
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 93,184
    BF25394 said:
    Original post updated for charts for week ending November 30, 2024.

    "Waiting for Stevie" drops from its peak of No. 15 to No. 16 in its twelfth week on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart and climbs from No. 16 to a new peak of No. 14 in its ninth week on the Rock & Alternative Airplay chart.

    Stop dropping already. 
  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,627
    demetrios said:
    BF25394 said:
    Original post updated for charts for week ending November 30, 2024.

    "Waiting for Stevie" drops from its peak of No. 15 to No. 16 in its twelfth week on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart and climbs from No. 16 to a new peak of No. 14 in its ninth week on the Rock & Alternative Airplay chart.

    Stop dropping already. 
    That ought to do it.
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 93,184
    BF25394 said:
    demetrios said:
    BF25394 said:
    Original post updated for charts for week ending November 30, 2024.

    "Waiting for Stevie" drops from its peak of No. 15 to No. 16 in its twelfth week on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart and climbs from No. 16 to a new peak of No. 14 in its ninth week on the Rock & Alternative Airplay chart.

    Stop dropping already. 
    That ought to do it.
    D'oh! 


  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,044
    not Dark Matter but still Pearl Jam 
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,627
    Original post updated for charts for week ending December 7, 2024.

    "Waiting for Stevie" rebounds from No. 16 to a new peak of No. 13 in its thirteenth week on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart and drops from No. 14 to No. 15 in its tenth week on the Rock & Alternative Airplay chart.
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,044
    Wonder if the 4,000 copies sold would hell move WFS up another rock chart. But which? I guess the Hot 100 but they don't have enough airplay or streams to even crack the top 300
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,627
    igotid88 said:
    Wonder if the 4,000 copies sold would hell move WFS up another rock chart. But which? I guess the Hot 100 but they don't have enough airplay or streams to even crack the top 300
    There isn't a rock chart that tracks physical single sales. Even if there were a chart where the double-sided single would see a jump next week, it would be gimmicky and not really reflective of any actual increase in popularity of the songs or any traction they're getting with a wider audience. (Of course, a lot of the charts are now gimmicky, which is why they're not all that useful anymore.)
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,044
    BF25394 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Wonder if the 4,000 copies sold would hell move WFS up another rock chart. But which? I guess the Hot 100 but they don't have enough airplay or streams to even crack the top 300
    There isn't a rock chart that tracks physical single sales. Even if there were a chart where the double-sided single would see a jump next week, it would be gimmicky and not really reflective of any actual increase in popularity of the songs or any traction they're getting with a wider audience. (Of course, a lot of the charts are now gimmicky, which is why they're not all that useful anymore.)
    There has to be a rock chart that the equivalent of the hot 100 where they combine streams/digital sales/physical/radio play
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,627
    igotid88 said:
    BF25394 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Wonder if the 4,000 copies sold would hell move WFS up another rock chart. But which? I guess the Hot 100 but they don't have enough airplay or streams to even crack the top 300
    There isn't a rock chart that tracks physical single sales. Even if there were a chart where the double-sided single would see a jump next week, it would be gimmicky and not really reflective of any actual increase in popularity of the songs or any traction they're getting with a wider audience. (Of course, a lot of the charts are now gimmicky, which is why they're not all that useful anymore.)
    There has to be a rock chart that the equivalent of the hot 100 where they combine streams/digital sales/physical/radio play
    The Hot Rock Songs and Hot Rock & Alternative Songs charts do that, but I don't know that 4,000 in sales-- many of which won't be tracked because many independent record stores don't report to Luminate-- would be enough to get either song into the top 50. We'll find out next week, I guess.
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,044
    BF25394 said:
    igotid88 said:
    BF25394 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Wonder if the 4,000 copies sold would hell move WFS up another rock chart. But which? I guess the Hot 100 but they don't have enough airplay or streams to even crack the top 300
    There isn't a rock chart that tracks physical single sales. Even if there were a chart where the double-sided single would see a jump next week, it would be gimmicky and not really reflective of any actual increase in popularity of the songs or any traction they're getting with a wider audience. (Of course, a lot of the charts are now gimmicky, which is why they're not all that useful anymore.)
    There has to be a rock chart that the equivalent of the hot 100 where they combine streams/digital sales/physical/radio play
    The Hot Rock Songs and Hot Rock & Alternative Songs charts do that, but I don't know that 4,000 in sales-- many of which won't be tracked because many independent record stores don't report to Luminate-- would be enough to get either song into the top 50. We'll find out next week, I guess.
    Hard to keep up because they change the names of it
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,627
    igotid88 said:
    BF25394 said:
    igotid88 said:
    BF25394 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Wonder if the 4,000 copies sold would hell move WFS up another rock chart. But which? I guess the Hot 100 but they don't have enough airplay or streams to even crack the top 300
    There isn't a rock chart that tracks physical single sales. Even if there were a chart where the double-sided single would see a jump next week, it would be gimmicky and not really reflective of any actual increase in popularity of the songs or any traction they're getting with a wider audience. (Of course, a lot of the charts are now gimmicky, which is why they're not all that useful anymore.)
    There has to be a rock chart that the equivalent of the hot 100 where they combine streams/digital sales/physical/radio play
    The Hot Rock Songs and Hot Rock & Alternative Songs charts do that, but I don't know that 4,000 in sales-- many of which won't be tracked because many independent record stores don't report to Luminate-- would be enough to get either song into the top 50. We'll find out next week, I guess.
    Hard to keep up because they change the names of it
    The ones that have "Songs" in the name tend to encompass sales, streaming and airplay, but the formula overvalues streams to the point that it's very hard to perform well without a lot of streaming. One thing that can overcome that bias is an outsized sales number. If you sell 100,000 singles in a week were no one else sells more than a few hundred, you'll get a disproportionately high number of sales points. This is how a couple of those K-Pop singles managed to hit number one on the Hot 100. They'd drop a physical single, it would sell 100,000 copies in a week in a world where physical singles have largely disappeared, and the chart formula gets gamed.
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  • vedpunkvedpunk Posts: 919
    edited December 4
    WFS is a slow burner increasing in popularity over a longer period of time vs the other singles which were pushed to radio.
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