"Dark Matter" and its tracks on the charts

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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 94,057

  • deb1211deb1211 Posts: 1,769
    That's awesome 👌 
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,171
    BF25394 said:
    Original post updated for charts for week ending January 25, 2025.

    "Waiting for Stevie" moves up from No. 11 to a new peak of No. 8 in its twentieth week on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart. The song also holds at No. 13 in its seventeenth week on the Rock & Alternative Airplay chart, after previously peaking at No. 12, and holds at No. 20 on the Hot Hard Rock Songs chart, after previously peaking at No. 11 on that chart when the RSD-exclusive single was released.

    The song's ascent on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart pretty much defines the phrase "slow and steady." Despite never having moved up more than four spots in any given week, it has managed to climb from No. 33 to No. 8 on the 40-position chart over a span of 20 weeks. Its chart run, as spelled out in the original post, has been 33-31-27-23-22-22-21-17-16-16-15-16-13-13-13-12-12-12-11-8.

    Now before we congratulate the rock audience on its good taste, here's a cautionary note: Scott Stapp's "Black Butterfly" is No. 5 on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart.
    Yea I was going to say about Stapp. Rock audiences want the same thing. 
     


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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,171
    It'll be great if they performed on the Grammys. Unfortunately that won't happen. Will have to watch the pre-show ceremony to see if they win any of awards they're up for.
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  • kmcmanuskmcmanus Posts: 807
    igotid88 said:
    It'll be great if they performed on the Grammys. Unfortunately that won't happen. Will have to watch the pre-show ceremony to see if they win any of awards they're up for.
    Why would the band who said the Grammy’s didn’t mean anything during their broadcast want to perform there? Why would the Grammy’s invite them?
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,171
    edited January 24
    kmcmanus said:
    igotid88 said:
    It'll be great if they performed on the Grammys. Unfortunately that won't happen. Will have to watch the pre-show ceremony to see if they win any of awards they're up for.
    Why would the band who said the Grammy’s didn’t mean anything during their broadcast want to perform there? Why would the Grammy’s invite them?
    Because people change. They didn't want to make music videos again until they did. And why wouldn't the Grammys want a legendary rock act? Especially a first time performer instead of the usual 
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  • TJ25487TJ25487 Posts: 1,491
    igotid88 said:
    kmcmanus said:
    igotid88 said:
    It'll be great if they performed on the Grammys. Unfortunately that won't happen. Will have to watch the pre-show ceremony to see if they win any of awards they're up for.
    Why would the band who said the Grammy’s didn’t mean anything during their broadcast want to perform there? Why would the Grammy’s invite them?
    Because people change. They didn't want to make music videos again until they did. And why wouldn't the Grammys want a legendary rock act? Especially a first time performer instead of the usual 
    Agreed! The band has softened up over the years, making video's, giving interviews etc. and has accepted their Rock Hall Of Fame award as well as playing at the ceremony so totally would think they could show up for the Grammy's. Fingers crossed! 
  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,746
    Whose Grammy is giving awards out?...
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,171
    BF25394 said:
    Whose Grammy is giving awards out?...
    Best Rock Performance, Rock Song, and Rock Album. Those are usually relegated to the ceremony before the show.
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,746
    igotid88 said:
    BF25394 said:
    Whose Grammy is giving awards out?...
    Best Rock Performance, Rock Song, and Rock Album. Those are usually relegated to the ceremony before the show.
    You're missing the joke. (Admittedly, it's not a great joke.)

    Now let's eat Grammy.
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  • kmcmanuskmcmanus Posts: 807
    BF25394 said:
    Whose Grammy is giving awards out?...
    Fiona Apple’s
  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,746
    kmcmanus said:
    BF25394 said:
    Whose Grammy is giving awards out?...
    Fiona Apple’s
    That's an especially good reference since this punctuation error is known as the "grocer's apostrophe."
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 94,057
    edited January 28
    igotid88 said:
    BF25394 said:
    Whose Grammy is giving awards out?...
    Best Rock Performance, Rock Song, and Rock Album. Those are usually relegated to the ceremony before the show.

    Not sure why they still do this while ear bleeding music are made public for prime time TV.
  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,746
    demetrios said:
    igotid88 said:
    BF25394 said:
    Whose Grammy is giving awards out?...
    Best Rock Performance, Rock Song, and Rock Album. Those are usually relegated to the ceremony before the show.

    Not sure why they still do this while ear bleeding music are made public for prime time TV.
    They highlight the acts in prime time that attract the biggest audience, while also trying to give some time to each of the biggest genres. What makes your ears bleed is subjective. The Grammys have featured some pretty incredible performances over the past ten or fifteen years since they deemphasized the awards in favor of performances on the live show.
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,746
    edited January 28
    Original post updated for charts for week ending February 1, 2025.

    "Waiting for Stevie" falls from its No. 8 peak to No. 12 in its twenty-first week on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart. The song also falls from No. 13 to No. 17 in its eighteenth week on the Rock & Alternative Airplay chart, after previously peaking at No. 12. It also slips from No. 20 to No. 21 on the Hot Hard Rock Songs chart, after previously peaking at No. 11 on that chart when the RSD-exclusive single was released.

    The number of spins the song is receiving nationally has begun to decline, so it's likely that the song will not achieve new peaks.
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  • iOnlyownMymindiOnlyownMymind Posts: 2,884
    Heard Waiting for Stevie for the firs time on the radio this morning going into work.  Radio edit version is lame but was cool to hear.  
  • T-Bone 82T-Bone 82 Posts: 420
    Time for "Won't Tell" as the next single. I feel that it has crossover appeal. Someone tell management to reach out to me to discuss a strategy. ;)
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,171
    edited January 30
    T-Bone 82 said:
    Time for "Won't Tell" as the next single. I feel that it has crossover appeal. Someone tell management to reach out to me to discuss a strategy. ;)
    Hopefully. If it does probably when the shows start in April. Maybe March
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,746
    I think "Got to Give" has the broadest appeal of the songs that have not yet been "released."
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,746
    Original post updated for charts for week ending February 8, 2025.

    "Waiting for Stevie" rebounds from No. 12 to No. 11 in its twenty-second week on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart. (It peaked two weeks ago at No. 8.) The song also tumbles from No. 17 to No. 28 in its nineteenth week on the Rock & Alternative Airplay chart, after previously peaking at No. 12. It also falls off the 25-position Hot Hard Rock Songs chart after previously peaking at No. 11 on that chart when the RSD-exclusive single was released.
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  • TJ25487TJ25487 Posts: 1,491
    BF25394 said:
    Original post updated for charts for week ending February 8, 2025.

    "Waiting for Stevie" rebounds from No. 12 to No. 11 in its twenty-second week on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart. (It peaked two weeks ago at No. 8.) The song also tumbles from No. 17 to No. 28 in its nineteenth week on the Rock & Alternative Airplay chart, after previously peaking at No. 12. It also falls off the 25-position Hot Hard Rock Songs chart after previously peaking at No. 11 on that chart when the RSD-exclusive single was released.
    I guess grunge is dead!  B)
  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,746
    Original post updated for charts for week ending February 15, 2025.

    Something very strange has happened. After 22 weeks on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart, "Waiting for Stevie" falls completely off the 40-position chart from No. 11. Unless there has been some kind of reporting or tracking error, it appears that the song was summarily removed from radio playlists across the nation. (It has also disappeared from the Mediabase Active Rock chart.) The song also tumbles from No. 28 to No. 38 in its twentieth week on the Rock & Alternative Airplay chart, after previously peaking at No. 12. 
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,171
    BF25394 said:
    Original post updated for charts for week ending February 15, 2025.

    Something very strange has happened. After 22 weeks on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart, "Waiting for Stevie" falls completely off the 40-position chart from No. 11. Unless there has been some kind of reporting or tracking error, it appears that the song was summarily removed from radio playlists across the nation. (It has also disappeared from the Mediabase Active Rock chart.) The song also tumbles from No. 28 to No. 38 in its twentieth week on the Rock & Alternative Airplay chart, after previously peaking at No. 12. 
    Yea checking allaccess and nothing 
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  • marumarukomarumaruko Posts: 291
    edited February 12
    What a shame that WFS dropped off the charts so quickly. Maybe it's time for a new single. Which song would work best - Won't Tell, Setting Sun, or perhaps Got to Give?


    Edit: I just realised that WFS is already the 4th single. So perhaps it's time to close that Dark Matter chapter and move on. 
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  • What a shame that WFS dropped off the charts so quickly. Maybe it's time for a new single. Which song would work best - Won't Tell, Setting Sun, or perhaps Got to Give?


    Edit: I just realised that WFS is already the 4th single. So perhaps it's time to close that Dark Matter chapter and move on. 
    IF METALLICAS THE BLACK ALBUM COULD HAVE A MILLION SINGLES AND STAY AT THE CHARTS FOR YEARS THEN SO CAN DARK MATTER
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,495
    What a shame that WFS dropped off the charts so quickly. Maybe it's time for a new single. Which song would work best - Won't Tell, Setting Sun, or perhaps Got to Give?


    Edit: I just realised that WFS is already the 4th single. So perhaps it's time to close that Dark Matter chapter and move on. 
    IF METALLICAS THE BLACK ALBUM COULD HAVE A MILLION SINGLES AND STAY AT THE CHARTS FOR YEARS THEN SO CAN DARK MATTER
    Jesus. How many songs were on that one?
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,746
    What a shame that WFS dropped off the charts so quickly. Maybe it's time for a new single. Which song would work best - Won't Tell, Setting Sun, or perhaps Got to Give?


    Edit: I just realised that WFS is already the 4th single. So perhaps it's time to close that Dark Matter chapter and move on. 
    Technically, it was the third single. "Running" was not really a single. It was not worked to radio. Think of it more as the functional equivalent of a B-side to "Dark Matter."
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,746
    What a shame that WFS dropped off the charts so quickly. Maybe it's time for a new single. Which song would work best - Won't Tell, Setting Sun, or perhaps Got to Give?


    Edit: I just realised that WFS is already the 4th single. So perhaps it's time to close that Dark Matter chapter and move on. 
    IF METALLICAS THE BLACK ALBUM COULD HAVE A MILLION SINGLES AND STAY AT THE CHARTS FOR YEARS THEN SO CAN DARK MATTER
    You just compared Dark Matter, which wasn't even one of the 200 most-consumed albums in 2024, to Metallica, which is the single biggest-selling album since 1991. It's also a weird comparison because there were five singles from Metallica, which is more than average but not any kind of record. (Off the top of my head, Thriller had seven singles, and that album only had nine songs.)

    Anyway, like Thriller, they kept issuing singles from Metallica because it was massively popular and there was an audience and appetite for more. Dark Matter is great-- maybe Pearl Jam's best album, in my opinion-- but there is not a huge audience for it. Every radio station in the country simultaneously dumping "Waiting for Stevie" from their playlists is not a signal that mainstream audiences are clamoring for more Pearl Jam.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,495
    BF25394 said:
    What a shame that WFS dropped off the charts so quickly. Maybe it's time for a new single. Which song would work best - Won't Tell, Setting Sun, or perhaps Got to Give?


    Edit: I just realised that WFS is already the 4th single. So perhaps it's time to close that Dark Matter chapter and move on. 
    IF METALLICAS THE BLACK ALBUM COULD HAVE A MILLION SINGLES AND STAY AT THE CHARTS FOR YEARS THEN SO CAN DARK MATTER
    You just compared Dark Matter, which wasn't even one of the 200 most-consumed albums in 2024, to Metallica, which is the single biggest-selling album since 1991. It's also a weird comparison because there were five singles from Metallica, which is more than average but not any kind of record. (Off the top of my head, Thriller had seven singles, and that album only had nine songs.)

    Anyway, like Thriller, they kept issuing singles from Metallica because it was massively popular and there was an audience and appetite for more. Dark Matter is great-- maybe Pearl Jam's best album, in my opinion-- but there is not a huge audience for it. Every radio station in the country simultaneously dumping "Waiting for Stevie" from their playlists is not a signal that mainstream audiences are clamoring for more Pearl Jam.
    ....pretty sure you didn't pick up on Spirtual's sarcasm there lol...
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,171
    I still think they can release a new single. Like I said possibly around when the tour starts back up
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