"Dark Matter" and its tracks on the charts
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JimFletcherPearlJam said:BF25394: Well, it would be cheaper for me to provide one "sale" in that manner (constant streaming) rather than purchasing a new physical album each week. Igotid88 is correct -- if tens of thousands of fan club members did that for a while, then it'd make a really big difference."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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But tens of thousands of fan club members are not going to do that. And why would we want them to? It would be totally artificial.
Most fan club members aren't even streaming the album to listen to it, let alone to have it on in the background of their device all day.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
igotid88 said:I gather speed from you fucking with me.0
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JimFletcherPearlJam said:BF25394: Well, it would be cheaper for me to provide one "sale" in that manner (constant streaming) rather than purchasing a new physical album each week. Igotid88 is correct -- if tens of thousands of fan club members did that for a while, then it'd make a really big difference."I'm a lucky man, to count on both hands the [shows I've done]. Some folks just have one, others they got none..."
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"He made the deal with the devil, we get to play with him.
He goes to hell, of course. We're going to heaven."0 -
Interesting ... I guess people will always scheme.0
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I understand those of you who are saying it's an implausible plan. I agree that it almost assuredly wouldn't work based on one reason or another. Sometimes I just like thinking about different, out-of-the-box ideas. Igotid88 said he actually tried to implement such a plan to no avail. Anyways, thanks for the conversation!0
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Anyway, believe it or not, I actually have a useful post. On this thread, some of the more prominent fan club members (igotid88, BF25394, and others) have recently been discussing Ten Club album sales and whether Luminate scans are completed in reference to them. Well, I just received a reply from an individual who represents Equilibrium Entertainment, LLC, and this is his verbatim reply concerning Luminate scans for fan club orders:
"To my knowledge, at this time, Luminate does NOT record sales through artists' websites. Artists should keep records of that themselves. The artists should then pool sales information together from their distribution service, other websites, and physical sales to get accurate totals. I'd argue that an artist should keep meticulous records of sales and streams from all sources, not just for marketing and tax purposes, but also to have reliable data in the event they want to apply for RIAA certification (i.e. gold, platinum, diamond). During that process, the RIAA literally audits an artist's record keeping, and tracks every sale, to get the most accurate information."
I hope some of you might find this reply/information helpful pertaining to the Luminate sales discussion. Thanks!
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BF25394 said:igotid88 said:I miss igotid880
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igotid88 said:BF25394 said:igotid88 said:Randall's Island 9/29/96, Continental Arena 9/8/98, MSG 9/10/98, Jones Beach 8/23/00, 8/24/00, 8/25/00, Nassau Coliseum 4/30/03, MSG 7/8/03, 7/9/03, Continental Arena 6/1/06, 6/3/06, MSG 6/24/08, 6/25/08, Spectrum 10/30/09, 10/31/09, MSG 5/20/10, 5/21/10, PJ20 9/3/11, 9/4/11, Charlottesville 10/29/13, Charlotte 10/30/13, Global Citizen 9/26/15, Raleigh 4/20/16 :( Baltimore 3/28/20 :( Austin 9/18/23, 9/19/23, Forum 5/21/24, Baltimore 9/12/24, Fenway 9/17/24, Nashville 5/6/25, 5/8/250
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JimFletcherPearlJam said:Anyway, believe it or not, I actually have a useful post. On this thread, some of the more prominent fan club members (igotid88, BF25394, and others) have recently been discussing Ten Club album sales and whether Luminate scans are completed in reference to them. Well, I just received a reply from an individual who represents Equilibrium Entertainment, LLC, and this is his verbatim reply concerning Luminate scans for fan club orders:
"To my knowledge, at this time, Luminate does NOT record sales through artists' websites. Artists should keep records of that themselves. The artists should then pool sales information together from their distribution service, other websites, and physical sales to get accurate totals. I'd argue that an artist should keep meticulous records of sales and streams from all sources, not just for marketing and tax purposes, but also to have reliable data in the event they want to apply for RIAA certification (i.e. gold, platinum, diamond). During that process, the RIAA literally audits an artist's record keeping, and tracks every sale, to get the most accurate information."
I hope some of you might find this reply/information helpful pertaining to the Luminate sales discussion. Thanks!
It's another reason why the Billboard 200 is not to be taken seriously.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
igotid88 said:BF25394 said:igotid88 said:I gather speed from you fucking with me.0
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BF25394 said:igotid88 said:BF25394 said:igotid88 said:
https://youtu.be/KAwvSag2wC4?si=w_5YBNiv6XFUsHok
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Dark Matter (album)
#2 / #23 / #39 in Australia
#2 / #8 / #15 / #49 in Austria
#2 / #9 / #26 / #45 / #87 in Germany
#2 / #24 / #41 in Netherlands
#2 / #49 / #100 in Ireland
#2 / #5 / #9 / #23 in Portugal
#2 / #23 in Scotland
#2 / #123 in UK (9,835 + 1,583 sales)
#2 / #9 / #19 / #52 in Swiss
#2 / #7 / #12 in Belgium
#3 / #26 / #37 / #60 in Spain
#3 / #29 / #58 / #98 in Italy
#3 / #18 / #40 in New Zealand
#5 / #171 in US (59' sales in 1st week)
#13 / #109 in France
#13 Finland
#17 Denmark
#21 Sweden
Dark Matter stays in the Top 10 in week 2 in Austria, Germany, Portugal, Switzerland and Belgium.
Nice results in these countries.Post edited by kramerica4 on0 -
It doesn't have the rest of the new songsI miss igotid880 -
kramerica4 said:Dark Matter (album)
#2 / #23 in Australia
#2 / #8 in Austria
#2 / #9 in Germany
#2 / #24 in Netherlands
#2 / #49 in Ireland
#2 / #7 in Portugal
#2 / #23 in Scotland
#2 / #123 in UK (9,835 + 1,583 sales)
#2 / #9 in Swiss
#2 / #7 in Belgium
#3 in Spain
#3 / #29 in Italy
#3 / #18 in New Zealand
#5 / #171 in US (59' sales in 1st week)
#13 / #109 in France
#13 Finland
#17 Denmark
#21 Sweden
Dark Matter stays in the Top 10 in week 2 in Austria, Germany, Portugal, Switzerland and Belgium.
Nice results in these countries.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
BF25394 said:kramerica4 said:Dark Matter (album)
#2 / #23 in Australia
#2 / #8 in Austria
#2 / #9 in Germany
#2 / #24 in Netherlands
#2 / #49 in Ireland
#2 / #7 in Portugal
#2 / #23 in Scotland
#2 / #123 in UK (9,835 + 1,583 sales)
#2 / #9 in Swiss
#2 / #7 in Belgium
#3 in Spain
#3 / #29 in Italy
#3 / #18 in New Zealand
#5 / #171 in US (59' sales in 1st week)
#13 / #109 in France
#13 Finland
#17 Denmark
#21 Sweden
Dark Matter stays in the Top 10 in week 2 in Austria, Germany, Portugal, Switzerland and Belgium.
Nice results in these countries.
There might be variations in how each country weights streams in the charts.
But I'm pretty sure in all of these charts streams are included in some way.
I know for sure for Australia, NZ, Germany and UK, they are.Post edited by kramerica4 on0 -
Original post updated for charts for week ending May 18, 2024. "Wreckage" continues to gain steam at radio, moving up from No. 22 to No. 14 in Alternative Airplay and from No. 12 to No. 7 at Rock & Alternative Airplay, as well as from No. 22 to No. 15 at Triple-A. Dark Matter slips from No. 19 to No. 29 in sales in its third week.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0
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Original post updated for charts for week ending May 25, 2024. "Wreckage" continues to make steady gains at radio. Dark Matter holds steady at No. 29 in sales in its fourth week.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0
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Original post updated for charts for week ending June 1, 2024. (I was in Seattle last week when this info became available and didn't get around to updating. There will be another update tomorrow for June 8 charts.)
"Wreckage" enters the top ten at Triple-A and spends a second week in the top five in Rock & Alternative Airplay. "Dark Matter" spends its thirteenth week in the top two on Canada Rock. Dark Matter falls off the 50-position Top Album Sales chart after four weeks.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
Original post updated for charts for week ending June 8, 2024.
Dark Matter is holding on in sales, still in the top 50 among current albums and seeing a bounce at indie retailers.
"Wreckage" cracks the top ten on Alternative Airplay and Mainstream Rock Airplay, and moves up to No. 3 on Rock & Alternative Airplay. It also reaches a new high of No. 7 at Triple-A.
"Dark Matter" enjoys a slight uptick at rock radio, moving up a notch while remaining in the top 30 for a sixteenth week.
In other news, twenty one pilots register the biggest sales week for any rock album in 2024, selling 113,000 units of their latest album, Clancy. (And, yes, twenty one pilots is a rock act. They have ten number one songs at alternative rock radio.)I gather speed from you fucking with me.0
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