First time since I joined back in 1994 that I was shutout for a city!
At least you got in the door. It's hard to watch people go 5/5 and 6/6 and others go 0/2 or 0/1. Doesn't feel... equitable. I preferred the ranked choice method.
If you reread the threads from previous lotteries, the complaints are all exactly the same as this thread. Even when you were able to rank shows you still had results where some went 5/5 and others went 0/2. The complaints then were the same as now - Namely that the system is the problem and we need to change it. The only difference in the threads is who won and who lost from tour to tour.
To me it is not the winning or losing of the tickets. I was completelly shut out in 2020. I got MSG and Baltimore this time - so I am thrilled. I just think the seat allocations are strange in that so many people got GA for both shows in the same city, and in many cases multiple cities. That is what seems different this time around.
Yes, there should be a lot more 1 out of 2 GA's than 2 out of 2 for GA's in a single city, and it seems to be the opposite based on those reporting. Granted, we do not have all the results. One theory is that if you did not get picked GA for N1, you were not included in the GA pick for N2 (your names were removed from the GA draw for that city). This would leave only GA N1 winners, who also put in for GA N2, and those only going for GA N2 in a given city. This would lead to many more 2 for 2 GA's rather than 1 for 2 GA's.
I should get off this page, because seeing how much everyone else won makes me sad. I'm happy for all of you, but come on. Common probability seems to have been thrown out the window for this draw. Even for the same draws as me, people go 4/5 (with MSG so no chance for 5/5) and I (and many others) go 0/5. Man, as I said before it's just disheartening. Fingers crossed for Friday.
My wife only put in for Philly N2, not N1. I guess in retrospect she should’ve also put in for N1 cause it sounds like she probably would’ve won GA for that as well. Based on what I’ve seen on here and FB, it seems like a lot of people got the same result for both nights of a two-night stand- i.e., P1 or GA. If I had to venture a guess, it sounds like what may have happened here is that the lottery may have been run for each city, as opposed to each individual show. But ultimately who knows.
The one instance I saw posted where a GA for N2 after a P1 for N1 turns out not to be as it was from two separate accounts.
I was only in this lottery to try for GA (I'm actually a little surprised I didn't get even one). I've got a bad 10C number (somewhere in the 450K range I think), so I'm going to try and get good seats in the general sale, and then hope I'll be able to sell bad 10C singles.... although I'm curious about the premium pricing! Just how much are those going to be??
Technically, I think the 10c usually gets most of the best tickets, so even your crappiest seat should be better than what's publicly available on TM. Unless you pony up for platinum.
Platinum depends on demand, but they'll be jacked up at the beginning, and demand will dictate if they drop down and how quickly.
10C will definitely not get most of the best tickets. Not anymore. I believe there will be a very small number of 10C tix in the desired sections of P1 (people with the lowest membership numbers), and the rest will mainly be back of the floor and upper level. For the same price.
It's worth noting that the language about 10C tickets has changed a lot over the last few years - there's no longer any mention whatsoever about securing the best seats in the house. That said, I'm (very cautiously) optimistic about their ability to improve over last year.
This - to me - is the most disappointing part of how the process has evolved.
Is anyone still getting new confirmations? I am hoping to sneak into Seattle still
Noblesville 5.7.2010. Lexington 4.26.2016. Nashville 9.16.2022. St Louis 9.18.2022. Chicago 1 9.5.2023. Chicago 2 9.7.2023. *Noblesville 9.10.2023* (Gutted) Seattle 5.30.2024 Noblesville 8.26.2024 Chicago 8.29.2024 Chicago 8.31.2024
I selected all tier levels for each show i put in for and ended up going 4 for 4 this time. Feel for those that missed out, i struck out the last tour probably cause i only put in for the first tier seating- wasnt going to make that mistake again.
Sacramento P1 Reserved Seating x2 Seattle Night 1 P2 Reserved Seating x2 Seattle Night 2 P2 Reserved Seating x2 Missoula GA Pit x2
Is anyone still getting new confirmations? I am hoping to sneak into Seattle still
Not many popping up today. I'm thinking it's credit card fixes from yesterday. My TM page still says "request received", but I'm not holding out any hope.
Anyone with an abundance of tickets for MSG and trying to help fellow 10Cers, a buddy of mine and I got shut out and will gladly buy dinner and drinks beforehand. Either night, or both nights.
I should get off this page, because seeing how much everyone else won makes me sad. I'm happy for all of you, but come on. Common probability seems to have been thrown out the window for this draw. Even for the same draws as me, people go 4/5 (with MSG so no chance for 5/5) and I (and many others) go 0/5. Man, as I said before it's just disheartening. Fingers crossed for Friday.
Good Luck on Friday. I was on an 0-11 lottery streak up until I got Chicago and Indy last year. I feel your pain!
Cleveland 03', Cincinnati 03' (Flooded), Cincinnati 06', Cincinnati 14', Chicago N2 23', Indy 23' (Cancelled), Vegas N2 24', Seattle N1 24', Indy 24', Chicago N2 24' __________ Boston N1 24'
I should get off this page, because seeing how much everyone else won makes me sad. I'm happy for all of you, but come on. Common probability seems to have been thrown out the window for this draw. Even for the same draws as me, people go 4/5 (with MSG so no chance for 5/5) and I (and many others) go 0/5. Man, as I said before it's just disheartening. Fingers crossed for Friday.
Good Luck on Friday. I was on an 0-11 lottery streak up until I got Chicago and Indy last year. I feel your pain!
Thanks man. It's not easy fighting machines, but I'll do my best. DRAGO!!!!!!
Is anyone still getting new confirmations? I am hoping to sneak into Seattle still
Not many popping up today. I'm thinking it's credit card fixes from yesterday. My TM page still says "request received", but I'm not holding out any hope.
I dont think any of those statuses have been updated yet.
Went 2/4 yesterday, but didn’t get my personal top 2 choices, so hoping for Seattle N1 or N2 today (not looking good). Verified Fan will be my friend, if not, I’ll try F5 for a few weeks. If i get SEA, I’m going to sell PDX, and I’ll drop them with notice here for anyone interested.
Seattle 8-8-18 Chicago 8-18-18 Chicago 8-20-18 St. Louis 4-4-20 Denver 4-9-20 Denver 9-22-22 Noblesville 9-10-23 Vancouver 5-6-24 Seattle 5-30-24
Curious - has anyone gotten the actual REJECTION email yet? I'm still holding out hope for the only two shows I put in for (both Chicago nights) until that happens.
06.30.1998 Minneapolis / 10.08.2000 East Troy (The Ice Bowl) / 06.16.2003 St. Paul / 06.26.2006 St. Paul / 09.03.2011 East Troy (PJ20) / 09.04.2011 East Troy (PJ20) / 07.19.2013 Chicago (Wrigley) / 10.19.2014 St. Paul / 10.20.2014 Milwaukee (Yieldwaukee!) / 08.20.16 Chicago (Wrigley) / 08.22.16 Chicago (Wrigley) / 08.18.18 Chicago (Wrigley) / 10.01.21 Dana Point (Ohana Encore) / 09.17.22 Louisville (Bourbon & Beyond) / 08.31.23 St. Paul / 09.02.23 St. Paul
Curious - has anyone gotten the actual REJECTION email yet? I'm still holding out hope for the only two shows I put in for (both Chicago nights) until that happens.
Rejection e-mails come after the lottery as a whole is finished.
I'm sorry for all the folks that didn't get their hometown requests fulfilled. Please kindly remember that an overwhelming number of Pearl Jam fans don't live in major cities, meaning they will never have the luxury of a hometown show. Thus, every show is going to have out of towners that deserve to be there as much as the locals.
83% of the U.S. population lives in urban areas
All major cities are urban areas, but all urban areas are not major cities. Pearl Jam plays a limited number of cities at this point.
Correct, the system is very flawed or corrupt. Simple statistics show multiple people shouldn't be winning 8 shows and others getting nothing. Time to stop wasting money on the ten club if this is how things are being handled.
If every requester has exactly the same chance as every other requester at every show requested this absolutely could happen as winning a show has zero effect on winning any other show. It's even possible the same 10 clubber could have been drawn as the first for every single show.
This!
Everyone knows it's possible. But if the odds of it happening are 1 in 10 million, yet the actual results are 1 in 100, something is wrong.
People are getting confused with lottery odds. If I have a ten percent chance to win a high demand show and win, I still have a ten percent chance of winning the next show.
but to win both, my odds are 1% (10%*10%)
We are seeing fans go four for four (ny and Balt one chance each, Philly two chances)
the odds of hitting all four assuming 10% odds are 10%*10%*10%*10% or 0.01%.
to see that happen multiple times is astounding. It’s possible but very very strange.
But we don't know what the odds for each show are. That makes a difference. Odds for pulling an MSG ticket were very low, due to both demand and fewer available seats. But what were the odds for, say, Portland? If there was a 90% chance of getting a ticket to one show, 75% chance at another, 25% chance at getting Philly 2, 10% chance of getting an MSG show, your total odds are different.
And yes, if the odds of getting a ticket were 95%, someone still was getting shut out. I got Philly 1 and 2 but not Seattle 2, that's just how it turned out.
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Curious - has anyone gotten the actual REJECTION email yet? I'm still holding out hope for the only two shows I put in for (both Chicago nights) until that happens.
Rejection e-mails come after the lottery as a whole is finished.
In reading through most of this to me it sounds like the least amount of people posted on here about actually getting wrigley night 2 tickets. Lots of night 1 and other shows but there just doesn't seem to be a lot of night 2 confirmations. Still holding out hope for night 2.
Anyone want to trade wrigley night 2 preferably GA for MSG p1 - I have two
1st: 6/26/1998 - Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI 2nd: 6/13/1999 - Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI - TIBETAN FREEDOM (Eddie Vedder + C Average) 3rd: 8/18/2000 - Deer Creek Music Theater - Noblesville, IN 4th: 10/8/2000 - Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (The Ice Bowl) 5th: 4/23/2003 - Assembly Hall - Champaign, IL 6th: 6/18/2003 - United Center - Chicago, IL 7th: 6/21/2003 - Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI 8th: 5/16/06 - United Center - Chicago, IL 9th: 6/29/2006 - Marcus Amphitheater - Milwaukee, WI 10th: 8/23/2009 - United Center - Chicago, IL 11th: 5/7/2010 - Deer Creek Music Theater - Noblesville, IN 12th: 7/19/2013 - Wrigley Field - Chicago, IL 13th: 10/20/2014 - BMO Harris Bradley Center - Milwaukee, WI 14th: 8/20/2016 - Wrigley Field - Chicago, IL 15th: 8/22/2016 - Wrigley Field - Chicago, IL 16th: 8/18/2018 - Wrigley Field - Chicago, IL 17th: 8/20/2018 - Wrigley Field - Chicago, IL 18th: 9/5/2023 - United Center - Chicago, IL 19th: 9/7/2023 - United Center - Chicago, IL 20th: 8/29/2024 - Wrigley Field - Chicago, IL 21st: 8/31/2024 - Wrigley Field - Chicago, IL
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This - to me - is the most disappointing part of how the process has evolved.
Chicago 1 9.5.2023. Chicago 2 9.7.2023.
*Noblesville 9.10.2023* (Gutted)
Seattle 5.30.2024 Noblesville 8.26.2024 Chicago 8.29.2024 Chicago 8.31.2024
Sacramento P1 Reserved Seating x2
Seattle Night 1 P2 Reserved Seating x2
Seattle Night 2 P2 Reserved Seating x2
Missoula GA Pit x2
Cleveland 03', Cincinnati 03' (Flooded), Cincinnati 06', Cincinnati 14', Chicago N2 23', Indy 23' (Cancelled), Vegas N2 24', Seattle N1 24', Indy 24', Chicago N2 24'
__________
Boston N1 24'
Nuclear fission
Chicago 8-18-18
Chicago 8-20-18
St. Louis 4-4-20
Denver 4-9-20
Denver 9-22-22
Noblesville 9-10-23
Vancouver 5-6-24
Seattle 5-30-24
EV
Chicago 2-9-22
Tempe 2-26-23
2022: Berlin, Budapest, Krakow, Amsterdam II
Anyone want to trade wrigley night 2 preferably GA for MSG p1 - I have two
2nd: 6/13/1999 - Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI - TIBETAN FREEDOM (Eddie Vedder + C Average)
3rd: 8/18/2000 - Deer Creek Music Theater - Noblesville, IN
4th: 10/8/2000 - Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (The Ice Bowl)
5th: 4/23/2003 - Assembly Hall - Champaign, IL
6th: 6/18/2003 - United Center - Chicago, IL
7th: 6/21/2003 - Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI
8th: 5/16/06 - United Center - Chicago, IL
9th: 6/29/2006 - Marcus Amphitheater - Milwaukee, WI
10th: 8/23/2009 - United Center - Chicago, IL
11th: 5/7/2010 - Deer Creek Music Theater - Noblesville, IN
12th: 7/19/2013 - Wrigley Field - Chicago, IL
13th: 10/20/2014 - BMO Harris Bradley Center - Milwaukee, WI
14th: 8/20/2016 - Wrigley Field - Chicago, IL
15th: 8/22/2016 - Wrigley Field - Chicago, IL
16th: 8/18/2018 - Wrigley Field - Chicago, IL
17th: 8/20/2018 - Wrigley Field - Chicago, IL
18th: 9/5/2023 - United Center - Chicago, IL
19th: 9/7/2023 - United Center - Chicago, IL
20th: 8/29/2024 - Wrigley Field - Chicago, IL
21st: 8/31/2024 - Wrigley Field - Chicago, IL
Got:
Vegas 1&2 P1
MSG 2 P1
Fenway 1&2 P1.
No pit but am stoked for some shows!
2018: Fenway 1
2021: Sea.Hear.Now
2022: San Diego, MSG, Camden
2023: Ft. Worth 1, Ft. Worth 2, Austin 1, Austin 2
2024: Las Vegas 1, Las Vegas 2, Wrigley 1, Wrigley 2, MSG 1, MSG 2, Philly 2, Fenway 1, Fenway 2