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just_onejust_one Posts: 2,114
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the US tour is about to start so how long the shows will be?

will they keep the new normal 2h/2:15h 1 encore shows or they will be back to 2:20/2:45h 2 encore shows?

personally i would love them going back to 2:20/2:45h 2 encore shows but i dont think thats gonna happen, i think the new normal will be 2h/2:15h 1 encore shows

I´ll be the first to ask... 124 votes

2h/2:15h 1 encore show
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2:20h/2:45h 2 encore show
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  • KwienekeKwieneke Indiana Posts: 1,541
    2h/2:15h 1 encore show
    makes you wonder since its a short tour with a lot of breaks but they may have set their new standard already and don't want to deviate from that. 
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,835
    edited August 2023
    2h/2:15h 1 encore show
    They ripped the band-aid off on the 2021/2022 shows.   Knew it would be a giant bummer to many of their fans.  No sense going back to the long shows for them.  Days of legendary shows are over, or, on the flipside, that 35 song show will show up at some point again and be a one off.   Another reason to keep chasing. 
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  • fall by the waysidefall by the wayside Jericho, VT Posts: 756
    2h/2:15h 1 encore show
    I expect the same as 2022. 
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  • SHZASHZA Posts: 3,891
    2h/2:15h 1 encore show
    7:30 show time with an opening act, PJ on stage from 9 - 11ish 
  • JojoRiceJojoRice Posts: 4,204
    2h/2:15h 1 encore show
    For now I think we are getting the same format we had last year.  If they ever decide to do stadium shows again, I could see those getting to 30+ songs. 
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  • Kearn5yKearn5y Posts: 2,804
    2:20h/2:45h 2 encore show
    Since its a very short tour, maybe something in-between. Say 26-27 songs
    Kearnsy
  • jimjam1982jimjam1982 Posts: 1,399
    2:20h/2:45h 2 encore show
    Voting purely based on my heart and the fact its only 9 shows.  I think they might push 2:20/2:30 for a couple extra songs but I think the 1 encore is the new normal.  So secret option 3 not on the poll 
  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,693
    2h/2:15h 1 encore show
    While I am hoping for the longer shows, my expectations are that the shows will be close to last year.
  • evenflow82evenflow82 Posts: 3,891
    2h/2:15h 1 encore show
    Hoping they can hit two hours...
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  • RyanRyan Posts: 1,098
    I’m guessing same as the bulk of last year, but hoping with the short tour and extra days off we see shows more like the length of Camden 2022 2.5 hours.
    Song lengths of sets can be misleading; Lukin, Untitled, Setting Forth, Interstellar Overdrive, Eruption, I’m Open all inflate what the set length looks like. With that said though, I’m hoping they can get to the 25-28 actual song length at 2.5 hours each night.
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  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,237
    It’s not about the length….
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  • HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 5,127
    2:20h/2:45h 2 encore show
    I say 2:20-2:25. I think we get 25-26 songs consistently. That said it’s not all about how long the show is, although it is a factor. The MSG crowd and the Camden setlist last year were unreal. 
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  • RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 4,884
    2h/2:15h 1 encore show
    Voted for the shorter as a prediction not a hope.  
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  • deb1211deb1211 Posts: 1,467
    edited August 2023
    2h/2:15h 1 encore show
    Shorter..maybe 2.5 max. I'm wondering if the sit down starts will continue or are we done with those this year and that was just to protect his healing vocal chords last year. 
  • MM70435MM70435 Posts: 280
    2h/2:15h 1 encore show
    I would guess the same as 2022.  The shows were just long enough to feel like it was a complete show.  Sure I wanted them to keep going but I did not leave feeling "ripped off".  The quality was still excellent IMO.
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  • Weston1283Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 4,808
    2h/2:15h 1 encore show
    It is going to be exactly the same as the 2022 shows.  

    If we are lucky, we may get a couple of “Evening with” shows sprinkled in once every few years, but the new format is here to stay forever
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,426
    A bit off topic but does anyone know how much of the Camden set was made up from the father and son that won the contest? The whole thing? A couple of songs? 
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,391
    PJNB said:
    A bit off topic but does anyone know how much of the Camden set was made up from the father and son that won the contest? The whole thing? A couple of songs? 
    I thought it was just one song.
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,301
    2h/2:15h 1 encore show
    I thought it was just Breath. Which I couldn’t have been happier with. Easily the best setlist of the tour imo. 
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,391
    nicknyr15 said:
    I thought it was just Breath. Which I couldn’t have been happier with. Easily the best setlist of the tour imo. 
    Yeah Ed said something along the lines of they picked the next song, which was breath.  The setlist that night was great!
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,123
    2h/2:15h 1 encore show
    Setlist leaked early on Facebook that night and I legit thought it was fake. Too good. 
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  • deb1211deb1211 Posts: 1,467
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    mcgruff10 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    I thought it was just Breath. Which I couldn’t have been happier with. Easily the best setlist of the tour imo. 
    Yeah Ed said something along the lines of they picked the next song, which was breath.  The setlist that night was great!
    And they said Ed offered them a choice between Breath and something else they just didn't pick it random
  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,237
    2-feign-reluctance said:
    It’s not about the length….

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  • thomascbullockthomascbullock Posts: 410
    2h/2:15h 1 encore show
    I’m not expecting much this year but hopefully the next time they tour behind an album: I hope they do something more interesting with the stage next time. They’ve never had the most flashy productions but the “just a few lights” look last year was maybe slightly too pared back.
  • Weston1283Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 4,808
    2h/2:15h 1 encore show
    The more important question to ask is

    Will Binaural through Backspacer be completely forgotten about again on this tour?
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    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • Foriginal SinForiginal Sin Posts: 1,770
    edited August 2023
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    Weston1283 said:
    The more important question to ask is

    Will Binaural through Backspacer be completely forgotten about again on this tour?
    Would any other bands play any songs from Binaural through Backspacer to a crowd wanting to hear hits? You know the answer. 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,177
    thomascbullock said:
    I’m not expecting much this year but hopefully the next time they tour behind an album: I hope they do something more interesting with the stage next time. They’ve never had the most flashy productions but the “just a few lights” look last year was maybe slightly too pared back.
    They’ve never been about extravagant stage set ups I don’t expect them to start now I just like some lights stacks of amps and the band 
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,086
    thomascbullock said:
    I’m not expecting much this year but hopefully the next time they tour behind an album: I hope they do something more interesting with the stage next time. They’ve never had the most flashy productions but the “just a few lights” look last year was maybe slightly too pared back.
    Yuck
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  • pthomnpthomn Posts: 116
    The St. Louis show was a bummer. Clocked in at 2 hours and it almost felt like they were done but realized it was less than 2 hours so Mike went into Ledbetter. 

    It was a great show but after waiting for 2+ years would have been even better if it wasn’t so short. 


  • gringostargringostar Posts: 5
    2h/2:15h 1 encore show
    Glendale, AZ was 23 songs last year. That's about 90 minutes of music, 20 minutes of Ed talking and another 10 for the encore break. I'd always vote for more music.
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