How the FUCK……

dimitrispearljam

IT WOULD BE A BLASPHEMY IF SOUNDGARDEN GETS IN AND NOT MAIDEN OR  JOY DIVISION FROM THAT LIST 

dimitrispearljam

lastexitlondon said:

Kate Bush in uk was massive in the 80s. Probably made more relevant by t.v programmes now

 Fully agree 

1ThoughtKnown

As I said earlier, I’ll go to Fat Mike’s Punk Museum in Vegas. Green Day is in there, even though they profess they are not a punk band. 

Lost In Ohio

1ThoughtKnown said:

As I said earlier, I’ll go to Fat Mike’s Punk Museum in Vegas. Green Day is in there, even though they profess they are not a punk band. 

The first rule of punk is if you're pop, you're not punk, right?

Green Day definitely started punk, but Dookie and after? You can't say September is a punk song. Eyeliner doesn't make you punk, Avril.

HughFreakingDillon

Green Day professes they aren't punk? I would agree, but shocking they'd say that about themselves. 

HughFreakingDillon

Lost In Ohio said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

As I said earlier, I’ll go to Fat Mike’s Punk Museum in Vegas. Green Day is in there, even though they profess they are not a punk band. 

The first rule of punk is if you're pop, you're not punk, right?

Green Day definitely started punk, but Dookie and after? You can't say September is a punk song. Eyeliner doesn't make you punk, Avril.

got that right, Skater Boi

1ThoughtKnown

HughFreakingDillon said:

Green Day professes they aren't punk? I would agree, but shocking they'd say that about themselves. 

It’s what Fat Mike said in a recent YouTube video interview I watched with that guy that does the Punk Rock MBA channel.

lolobugg

mace1229 said:

lolobugg said:

Gibson said:

It’s probably already been said, but it feels like the RRHOF gets more attention over the bands they don’t let in. 

the fact that the Smashing Pumpkins aren't in over bands like Green Day is a fucking joke. I lost all respect for the Hall when they didn't even put the Pumpkins on the ballot. 

I don't know. I'll take Pumpkins over GD any day of the week. But I think there's an argument for both. Pumpkins were massive when Melon Collie came out, but GD's  relevance/popularity/influence seems like it was longer

I don't have a problem with Green day per se but for them to get in before the Pumpkins and Soundgarden just isn't right IMO. 

lolobugg

Lost In Ohio said:

mace1229 said:

lolobugg said:

Gibson said:

It’s probably already been said, but it feels like the RRHOF gets more attention over the bands they don’t let in. 

the fact that the Smashing Pumpkins aren't in over bands like Green Day is a fucking joke. I lost all respect for the Hall when they didn't even put the Pumpkins on the ballot. 

I don't know. I'll take Pumpkins over GD any day of the week. But I think there's an argument for both. Pumpkins were massive when Melon Collie came out, but GD's  relevance/popularity/influence seems like it was longer

Good point. Green Day is popular with the sk8r crowd which seems to think they're a "punk rawk" band.

Meanwhile, bands like MxPx, NoFX and other real punk bands are probably never getting in, but I digress. What about the Meat Puppets and MC5? The Buzzcocks?

But hey, I'm sure Shania Twain has a better chance than anything Fat Wreck Chords ever was involved with.

I saw MxPx in a high school gym for 10 bucks........ now that is PUNK ROCK!!!

1ThoughtKnown

Billy Corgan is an insufferable media whore. No one likes to hear themselves talk more than that guy. That HOF acceptance speech would be the most self-congratulating piece of drivel ever recorded lol

Spiritual_Chaos

People talking about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

StardogChamp79

At least we still have thier music!

https://experiencevinyl.com/products/soundgarden-a-sides?variant=33284904583254

HughFreakingDillon

1ThoughtKnown said:

Billy Corgan is an insufferable media whore. No one likes to hear themselves talk more than that guy. That HOF acceptance speech would be the most self-congratulating piece of drivel ever recorded lol

i was really critical of him for this exact thing for a very long time; recently all the interviews I've read have been a lot less "ME ME ME WHY DOESN'T EVERYONE LOVE ME" and more "this is my art, like it or don't like it". FINALLY. 

lolobugg

HughFreakingDillon said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Billy Corgan is an insufferable media whore. No one likes to hear themselves talk more than that guy. That HOF acceptance speech would be the most self-congratulating piece of drivel ever recorded lol

i was really critical of him for this exact thing for a very long time; recently all the interviews I've read have been a lot less "ME ME ME WHY DOESN'T EVERYONE LOVE ME" and more "this is my art, like it or don't like it". FINALLY. 

Yes, and he is finally talking good about his peers. He was playing the heel for a long time and it really made him come off as pretentious and smug. He actually hung out with Daniel Johns from Silverchair at the Australia concert he played a few weeks ago. Back in the day, he wouldn't be caught dead talking to the singer from Silverchair. He has mellowed in his old age. 

HughFreakingDillon

do you think he was playing, though? It came off to me as legitimately feeling like he wasn't getting the respect he thought he deserved. 

tempo_n_groove

Lost In Ohio said:

mace1229 said:

lolobugg said:

Gibson said:

It’s probably already been said, but it feels like the RRHOF gets more attention over the bands they don’t let in. 

the fact that the Smashing Pumpkins aren't in over bands like Green Day is a fucking joke. I lost all respect for the Hall when they didn't even put the Pumpkins on the ballot. 

I don't know. I'll take Pumpkins over GD any day of the week. But I think there's an argument for both. Pumpkins were massive when Melon Collie came out, but GD's  relevance/popularity/influence seems like it was longer

Good point. Green Day is popular with the sk8r crowd which seems to think they're a "punk rawk" band.

Meanwhile, bands like MxPx, NoFX and other real punk bands are probably never getting in, but I digress. What about the Meat Puppets and MC5? The Buzzcocks?

But hey, I'm sure Shania Twain has a better chance than anything Fat Wreck Chords ever was involved with.

mxpx and nofx, no.  MC5 and the Meat Puppets?  Yes. Buzzcocks earlier stuff moved people.  I didn't bother with the reforming.

I love chatting about music because everyone is right in a way.  

demetrios

Spiritual_Chaos said:

People talking about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

I hope at the awards ceremony the president of the company comes up and tells the world they have finally made a decision to change the name to Music Hall of Fame cause THAT makes a lot of sense.

tempo_n_groove

demetrios said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

People talking about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

I hope at the awards ceremony the president of the company comes up and tells the world they have finally made a decision to change the name to Music Hall of Fame cause THAT makes a lot of sense.

You can be Punk and not be punk rock, it's an idea.

People need to stop worrying about the term Rock n roll.  It's a music museum at the end of the day that Iron Maiden still isn't in.  It's also a museum sponsored by a magazine that thought Def Leppards Pyromania was garbage and reviewed it poorly.  It only sold 6 million copied upon it's initial release.

So relax.  Enjoy the museum for what it is.  An eclectic mix of really good music with a funny name...

HughFreakingDillon

agreed. the name makes no difference. 

1ThoughtKnown

The defending of the “hall” is baffling.