Indy/Noblesville: Roll Call and Discussion

Gern Blansten

Weston1283 said:

seanclaxton said:

seanwon said:

incredebell said:

Sacramento and Vegas are still waiting for rescheduled 2022 dates. They were completely ignored for this 2023 mini tour. 

So I wouldn't consider it a given that Indy will get a 2024 date. Who knows how far along in the supposed 2024 tour planning process they are. Who knows the logistics involved with that.

Even assuming Indy gets a 2024 date, all it takes is one band member getting sick and it could get postponed again. Or bad weather could cause it to get postponed.

I almost want to book multiple shows next year just as an insurance policy in case one of them gets postponed.

I'm wallowing in the moment, but... between the merch ridiculousness, show postponements, the struggle to get tickets, the shorter setlists, I wonder if it's worth the trouble anymore.

Sacramento and Vegas were canceled. They aren't getting rescheduled.  There is a difference between canceled and postponed. 

All I've heard all night is how it's been postponed and they’re gonna come back and do the best show. Acting like this is different to all the shows people missed out on last summer. Postponed or cancelled makes no difference to your emotions when you at the venue and they pull the plug

When’s the last time they actually made up a cancelled show?? Raleigh is still waiting from 2016

Oakland shows...there were others I believe 

F5

Sad day for the jamily

pashapasaman

Weston1283 said:

seanclaxton said:

seanwon said:

incredebell said:

Sacramento and Vegas are still waiting for rescheduled 2022 dates. They were completely ignored for this 2023 mini tour. 

So I wouldn't consider it a given that Indy will get a 2024 date. Who knows how far along in the supposed 2024 tour planning process they are. Who knows the logistics involved with that.

Even assuming Indy gets a 2024 date, all it takes is one band member getting sick and it could get postponed again. Or bad weather could cause it to get postponed.

I almost want to book multiple shows next year just as an insurance policy in case one of them gets postponed.

I'm wallowing in the moment, but... between the merch ridiculousness, show postponements, the struggle to get tickets, the shorter setlists, I wonder if it's worth the trouble anymore.

Sacramento and Vegas were canceled. They aren't getting rescheduled.  There is a difference between canceled and postponed. 

All I've heard all night is how it's been postponed and they’re gonna come back and do the best show. Acting like this is different to all the shows people missed out on last summer. Postponed or cancelled makes no difference to your emotions when you at the venue and they pull the plug

When’s the last time they actually made up a cancelled show?? Raleigh is still waiting from 2016

They made up the canceled London 2018 show.  Change the show to the last date of the tour

seanwon

seanclaxton said:

seanwon said:

incredebell said:

Sacramento and Vegas are still waiting for rescheduled 2022 dates. They were completely ignored for this 2023 mini tour. 

So I wouldn't consider it a given that Indy will get a 2024 date. Who knows how far along in the supposed 2024 tour planning process they are. Who knows the logistics involved with that.

Even assuming Indy gets a 2024 date, all it takes is one band member getting sick and it could get postponed again. Or bad weather could cause it to get postponed.

I almost want to book multiple shows next year just as an insurance policy in case one of them gets postponed.

I'm wallowing in the moment, but... between the merch ridiculousness, show postponements, the struggle to get tickets, the shorter setlists, I wonder if it's worth the trouble anymore.

Sacramento and Vegas were canceled. They aren't getting rescheduled.  There is a difference between canceled and postponed. 

All I've heard all night is how it's been postponed and there gonna come back and do the best show. Acting like this is different to all the shows people missed out on last summer. Postponed or cancelled makes no difference to your emotions when you at the venue and they pull the plug

That has nothing to do with our posts. We were talking about the difference between canceled vs. postponed in terms of rescheduling.

I can assure you, for myself and the many other people I met and talked to in Noblesville today, we are much happier we have tickets for a rescheduled show as opposed to not having anything to look forward too and a refund.

seanwon

Weston1283 said:

seanclaxton said:

seanwon said:

incredebell said:

Sacramento and Vegas are still waiting for rescheduled 2022 dates. They were completely ignored for this 2023 mini tour. 

So I wouldn't consider it a given that Indy will get a 2024 date. Who knows how far along in the supposed 2024 tour planning process they are. Who knows the logistics involved with that.

Even assuming Indy gets a 2024 date, all it takes is one band member getting sick and it could get postponed again. Or bad weather could cause it to get postponed.

I almost want to book multiple shows next year just as an insurance policy in case one of them gets postponed.

I'm wallowing in the moment, but... between the merch ridiculousness, show postponements, the struggle to get tickets, the shorter setlists, I wonder if it's worth the trouble anymore.

Sacramento and Vegas were canceled. They aren't getting rescheduled.  There is a difference between canceled and postponed. 

All I've heard all night is how it's been postponed and they’re gonna come back and do the best show. Acting like this is different to all the shows people missed out on last summer. Postponed or cancelled makes no difference to your emotions when you at the venue and they pull the plug

When’s the last time they actually made up a cancelled show?? Raleigh is still waiting from 2016

Canceled shows don't get made up. It was canceled. If they choose to play there again, great!  But it is a new show. Nothing to do with the canceled show.

seanclax

Weston1283 said:

seanclaxton said:

seanwon said:

incredebell said:

Sacramento and Vegas are still waiting for rescheduled 2022 dates. They were completely ignored for this 2023 mini tour. 

So I wouldn't consider it a given that Indy will get a 2024 date. Who knows how far along in the supposed 2024 tour planning process they are. Who knows the logistics involved with that.

Even assuming Indy gets a 2024 date, all it takes is one band member getting sick and it could get postponed again. Or bad weather could cause it to get postponed.

I almost want to book multiple shows next year just as an insurance policy in case one of them gets postponed.

I'm wallowing in the moment, but... between the merch ridiculousness, show postponements, the struggle to get tickets, the shorter setlists, I wonder if it's worth the trouble anymore.

Sacramento and Vegas were canceled. They aren't getting rescheduled.  There is a difference between canceled and postponed. 

All I've heard all night is how it's been postponed and they’re gonna come back and do the best show. Acting like this is different to all the shows people missed out on last summer. Postponed or cancelled makes no difference to your emotions when you at the venue and they pull the plug

When’s the last time they actually made up a cancelled show?? Raleigh is still waiting from 2016

They cancelled london in 2018 and played the show a month later.

RiotAct10

seanclaxton said:

Weston1283 said:

seanclaxton said:

seanwon said:

incredebell said:

Sacramento and Vegas are still waiting for rescheduled 2022 dates. They were completely ignored for this 2023 mini tour. 

So I wouldn't consider it a given that Indy will get a 2024 date. Who knows how far along in the supposed 2024 tour planning process they are. Who knows the logistics involved with that.

Even assuming Indy gets a 2024 date, all it takes is one band member getting sick and it could get postponed again. Or bad weather could cause it to get postponed.

I almost want to book multiple shows next year just as an insurance policy in case one of them gets postponed.

I'm wallowing in the moment, but... between the merch ridiculousness, show postponements, the struggle to get tickets, the shorter setlists, I wonder if it's worth the trouble anymore.

Sacramento and Vegas were canceled. They aren't getting rescheduled.  There is a difference between canceled and postponed. 

All I've heard all night is how it's been postponed and they’re gonna come back and do the best show. Acting like this is different to all the shows people missed out on last summer. Postponed or cancelled makes no difference to your emotions when you at the venue and they pull the plug

When’s the last time they actually made up a cancelled show?? Raleigh is still waiting from 2016

They cancelled london in 2018 and played the show a month later.

Speculation here, but I think a big reason this one may have been postponed rather than cancelled, is they were planning on being in that part of the country next year anyways. For some of the other shows, I don't think they had any immediate plans to tour.

Pottsy199

It's been a while since I was able to type #gutted. Ended up at the bar around the corner from my house (Britton Tavern) and watched my Bears get embarrassed after merch line. Lots of PJ fans from all over the country. Actually, a really fun atmosphere for NFL since all teams practically had someone who was a fan there. We'll try again in 2024. Thankful I got to Chicago last week for a little taste. Everyone get home safe. 

know1

I think I'm done seeing them live at this point. And not just because of this show. That was kind of the final straw. 

Gern Blansten

Pottsy199 said:

It's been a while since I was able to type #gutted. Ended up at the bar around the corner from my house (Britton Tavern) and watched my Bears get embarrassed after merch line. Lots of PJ fans from all over the country. Actually, a really fun atmosphere for NFL since all teams practically had someone who was a fan there. We'll try again in 2024. Thankful I got to Chicago last week for a little taste. Everyone get home safe. 

Yeah we hit both Chicago shows so we're glad we made that decision. I had pit tix for Noblesville so really hoping they reschedule as planned.

Pottsy199

Postponed, amphitheater, one off...I'll be fine with an album show next time they come through. Haha. Riot Act will suffice. 

Gern Blansten

It was shaking out to be a perfect night...weather was great...temp was going to be around 70 or so. Fuck.

Pottsy199

All I talked about all week was how great the weather was going to be for Pumpkins and PJ. The kicker on all of it is I skipped All IN Festival which was a monster lineup for me because of PJ and missed it all. Thankfully I have a Nugs membership and after football we couch toured the All IN show live. Lemons.

cincybearcat

Gern Blansten said:

It was shaking out to be a perfect night...weather was great...temp was going to be around 70 or so. Fuck.

Yeah the weather is always a big ? for these outdoor shows…and it was going to be perfect!

dougfloyd

Gern Blansten said:

It was shaking out to be a perfect night...weather was great...temp was going to be around 70 or so. Fuck.

Exactly, we were all so devastated yesterday and still shaking it off this morning.  It was lining up to be a perfect day.  First time in GA and we were going to have a great spot.  Hopefully the dates work out next year to try it again.

Did anybody that stuck around for merch happen to get any extra buttons/pins they could trade?  I have 2 extra pins from Chicago N2 and looking for 2 from Noblesville.  We were going to grab merch once we got inside the venue so missed out.

Pottsy199

Grunge Bible on Instagram today posted a Long Road video. That was a bittersweet pick. My first live PJ song I ever heard at Deer Creek (home show) was Long Road. I (had) wish(ed) for so long...

DT270886

Sleepy Bear Campground by Ruoff showing Pearl Jam camping for October 1st....interesting. 

mccartyk25

I'd be shocked, Ohana  is that weekend. 

Kwieneke

mccartyk25 said:

I'd be shocked, Ohana  is that weekend. 

definitely on the campgrounds website but I would be 99% sure it is wrong 
although Eddie is scheduled for 9/30 at Ohana 

Pottsy199

They don’t play back to back so I can’t imagine playing back to back with a red eye from California to Indiana. That said it’s my weekend off so LFG (won’t happen).

JD87070

Pottsy199 said:

They don’t play back to back so I can’ti imagine playing back to back with a red eye from California to Indiana. That said it’s my weekend off so LFG (won’t happen).

Plus Jeff plays Ohana on 10/1 with Deaf Charlie. So that is absolutely not accurate.

Kwieneke

good point
Wishful thinking is a hell of a thing 

bootlegger10

PJ played three nights in a row during 2022.  Ed could pull off a low key sit down solo show and then get on a private jet.   IIf he did something like his Innings Festival set I don't think he'd be all the tired like a PJ show.  

JeBurkhardt

bootlegger10 said:

PJ played three nights in a row during 2022.  Ed could pull off a low key sit down solo show and then get on a private jet.   IIf he did something like his Innings Festival set I don't think he'd be all the tired like a PJ show.  

For what it is worth, I would enjoy an acoustic set at Deer Creek by the band If It meant they could pull off playing that weekend. 

Kwieneke

Owner of sleepy bear confirmed that it was only put there as a placeholder but people were actually able to buy passes and he said all sales are final 

Go Beavers

Kwieneke said:

Owner of sleepy bear confirmed that it was only put there as a placeholder but people were actually able to buy passes and he said all sales are final 

I guess that’s one way to do business. 

dougfloyd

Go Beavers said:

Kwieneke said:

Owner of sleepy bear confirmed that it was only put there as a placeholder but people were actually able to buy passes and he said all sales are final 

I guess that’s one way to do business. 

Yeah I stopped and talked to him in person on Saturday to ask him some questions about parking and he seemed like the kind of guy who would pull something like that to make a buck, just my impression.  The reasonable the thing to do would be to issue refunds considering he posted an event with incorrect information in it.

sonicshoulder

I just talked to Sleepy Bear dude...he said via email "I am not selling passes for an event that is scheduled for October 1. Yeah October 1 day is when event sales end TBA means date to be announced". I really didn't understand that response but I followed up by asking if he was basically selling spots for the PJ show reschedule date and he said yes. Although...he clearly has an option to purchase something under the heading "Pearl Jam- Camping or Tailgating October 1 @ 12:00 pm - October 2 @ 12:00 pm". He probably could have done himself some favors and not attached a date to what people were purchasing....its not like it wouldn't  sell out in 15 minutes anyway. 

gotthebottle

You guys are so taken in by the slightest rumor.... NO WAY OCT 1

We All Believe

We're having a party at Gate B6 at IND. 3 of us who are trying to get back to NY and are delayed because of the weather. You're welcome to join us if you're at the airport lol.