Some transparency on this process would go a long way with folks. Explaining the how, why, where.
If someone has 1st priority of Austin reserved Night 1 and doesn’t get chosen, how can another get the tickets when it’s their 3rd and/or 4th priority.
Im wondering, if you pick say Austin as first priority and lose for whatever reason, your done. Then they go to people who picked Austin as a second. If you picked Austin as your second and lose, your done. Then so on...If you picked Austin as your first and loose, logic may seem you would be moved back to the second round right?, but I think your no longer in the lottery after the first round cause you lost. Thats why people who picked it as different priorities won and you didn't. Just a theory.
Also, I don't put any stock in the "check every box, it maximizes your chances" emails that people got from support. That *may* be true, but anyone who's worked at an org of more than 1000 people knows it's an iron-clad guarantee that the people answering those emails don't actually know how it works, and the odds that they asked and got a real answer from someone who does know before replying, *and* interpreted that answer correctly, is very small.
These instructions were also on the ticket request form you filled out.
The same goes for the text that ends up in emails and on web pages. It's *slightly* more likely to be accurate, but if it doesn't include 'how' or 'why' it's still real likely to be something someone totally disconnected from the business process put on there because it "sounds right".
I mean, I guess? I don't see why you'd specifically make up instructions to print on a ticket entry form for no reason. That seems asinine to me but whatevs.
It's not necessarily just "made up" (although that happens too), but it's that it gets explained properly to someone at some point, then it's both a game of telephone and "let's make it so people can understand it!" until it actually gets written down, to the point that it may be a total non-sequitur. It is asinine, it's also how most large corporations work, especially unaccountable monopolies.
You might know better, but I clicked both boxes because that's what it told me to do. The "whys" and "hows" don't really matter, do they?
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
My one gripe about the this ticket system is you should only be allowed to win one show of ten club tickets per tour...put in for all the shows youd like to attend, set the priority, if you win all your other entries are voided. There would still be a chance of getting nothing, but I think it would give more members chances rather than one member winning ten club tickets to multiple shows.
Really not complaining. just confused. My reserved seats for Austinx2 are by far the worst seats ive ever gotten. ive Always been side stage in arenas. now i'm getting back corner? 10c# 144k
It’s a joke. 25+ year members are now sitting where there’s barely a view of the stage. Every 100 level seat has a better view than back of floor.
Not saying it's right or wrong, but this has been the case at least for the last few tours.
Not it hasn’t. I sat in the first section next to the stage on the side for all 3 shows last year
I got a good one (All Selections were GA/Res Option) 1. Chi 2 Lost 2. Chi 1 Lost 3. Noble Lost 4. St Paul 1 Lost 5. Austin 1 Lost 6. St Paul 2 Lost
7. Austin 2 WON
Let me fix this for you.
I got a good one (All Selections were GA/Res Option) 1. Chi 2 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 2. Chi 1 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 3. Noble Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 4. St Paul 1 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 5. Austin 1 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 6. St Paul 2 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY
7. Austin 2 WON -- WON LOTTERY
You have to win the lottery for the show you selected FIRST to even be in the ticket pool.
If you do win , thats when priority and seniority applies.
Been this way since 2020 tour.
Some shows are higher in demand then others, thus the reason you won seats with 7th priority.
The only way to fix this and to erase all the confusion is to make the lottery selection a separate process and send the emails to everyone win or lose. Then everyone knows if they won or lost for that show. Then those that won, priority and seniority would then apply to the seat you get.
Yeah its an extra step, but maybe Pearl Jam could convince TM to do it in the future.
Look mate, using big letters doesn't make it more true.
It is not how it worked in 2020. 10club Support @ ticketmaster confirmed it way back then when they botched Oakland draw. It goes by priority no one with a lesser priority gets in over someone with a higher priority. Otherwise, there is no fucking point to the priority.
Me and a group of people I talk to regularly have combined for a 1 out of 16 success rate for RES/GA for the Noblesville show. All 12 entries as Noblesville priority #1
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Every tour the lottery process is always a cluster and there's no way to make everybody happy but what I don't understand is how it is 2023 and it still takes 2 days to pick the winners and send out the results. Makes me think there must still be a lot of manual processes involved. If this is all automated then there is a lot of room for improvement.
1998 - Noblesville 2000 - Noblesville 2010 - Noblesville 2011 - EV solo St Louis, PJ20 Alpine Valley 2012 - San Fran (Oracle) 2013 - Wrigley, Pittsburgh, Buffalo 2014 - Cincy, St Louis, Detroit 2016 - Lexington, Wrigley 2018 - Wrigley 2022 - Nashville, St Louis 2024 - Noblesville, Wrigley
Scored Night 2 Ft Worth Sec FLR3, Row 19, Seats 1 - 2
My son is going to be pumped for his first show 10C 252XXX (20th year)
interesting that I have a lower number than you, but I am in 123.
They tend to fill the best wing seats before the floor behind GA
I think that for a lot of people sec 123 would be better than being on the floor. If you’re on the floor standing behind people you might be constantly adjusting to see around the heads in front of you.
I was on the floor in seats about in the middle of the arena I. OKC, looking at the back of big dumb head in front of me, then looking over to the rows on the side thinking I’d rather be up there.
In for both nights Ft Worth! Section 110 on 9/13, Section 116 on 9/15. Emails came around 4:30 and 5pm. First time I've ever hit the lottery and I ended up with both. Lucky or lower demand because of Austin? I'll take it either way
Mine dont give me a specific section in the email for Ft Worth. It just says Sec FLR3, Row 19
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Whether there's been mistakes in the lottery or not, there being no draws on Monday has I think can only add fuel to the conspiracy fire. Haha. I know they technically said the draws are over 2 days, but we all assumed due to past experiences there would be something happening yesterday.
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You know, I get the fact that the ticket distribution biz is complicated, but I can't believe I am reading all these posts about people getting multiple shows and I got shut out. You'd think they would have some sort of way to make sure everyone gets a ticket and then start doing multiple shows.
What if the demand for one show (priority 1) is more than the actual ticket allotment?? People miss out..
2013 - OKC 2014 -Tulsa 2016 - Chicago 1 2018 - Seattle 1 & 2 2021 - Ohana I Ohana Encore 1 & 2 2022 - Louisville I OKC 2023 - Ft. Worth 1 & 2 I Austin 1 & 2
I got a good one (All Selections were GA/Res Option) 1. Chi 2 Lost 2. Chi 1 Lost 3. Noble Lost 4. St Paul 1 Lost 5. Austin 1 Lost 6. St Paul 2 Lost
7. Austin 2 WON
Let me fix this for you.
I got a good one (All Selections were GA/Res Option) 1. Chi 2 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 2. Chi 1 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 3. Noble Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 4. St Paul 1 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 5. Austin 1 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 6. St Paul 2 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY
7. Austin 2 WON -- WON LOTTERY
You have to win the lottery for the show you selected FIRST to even be in the ticket pool.
If you do win , thats when priority and seniority applies.
Been this way since 2020 tour.
Some shows are higher in demand then others, thus the reason you won seats with 7th priority.
The only way to fix this and to erase all the confusion is to make the lottery selection a separate process and send the emails to everyone win or lose. Then everyone knows if they won or lost for that show. Then those that won, priority and seniority would then apply to the seat you get.
Yeah its an extra step, but maybe Pearl Jam could convince TM to do it in the future.
Is there a source for this? It would explain a lot if that's actually been publicly stated at some point.
Go down to the how do tickets work for 10c members? It factually states tickets are randomized with consideration based on priority. Ergo, priority 1 should always trump priority 2 and so forth.
I got a good one (All Selections were GA/Res Option) 1. Chi 2 Lost 2. Chi 1 Lost 3. Noble Lost 4. St Paul 1 Lost 5. Austin 1 Lost 6. St Paul 2 Lost
7. Austin 2 WON
Let me fix this for you.
I got a good one (All Selections were GA/Res Option) 1. Chi 2 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 2. Chi 1 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 3. Noble Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 4. St Paul 1 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 5. Austin 1 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 6. St Paul 2 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY
7. Austin 2 WON -- WON LOTTERY
You have to win the lottery for the show you selected FIRST to even be in the ticket pool.
If you do win , thats when priority and seniority applies.
Been this way since 2020 tour.
Some shows are higher in demand then others, thus the reason you won seats with 7th priority.
The only way to fix this and to erase all the confusion is to make the lottery selection a separate process and send the emails to everyone win or lose. Then everyone knows if they won or lost for that show. Then those that won, priority and seniority would then apply to the seat you get.
Yeah its an extra step, but maybe Pearl Jam could convince TM to do it in the future.
Look mate, using big letters doesn't make it more true.
It is not how it worked in 2020. 10club Support @ ticketmaster confirmed it way back then when they botched Oakland draw. It goes by priority no one with a lesser priority gets in over someone with a higher priority. Otherwise, there is no fucking point to the priority.
Has anyone got a rear/side stage for Chicago or Lawn for Indy?
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I got a good one (All Selections were GA/Res Option) 1. Chi 2 Lost 2. Chi 1 Lost 3. Noble Lost 4. St Paul 1 Lost 5. Austin 1 Lost 6. St Paul 2 Lost
7. Austin 2 WON
Let me fix this for you.
I got a good one (All Selections were GA/Res Option) 1. Chi 2 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 2. Chi 1 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 3. Noble Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 4. St Paul 1 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 5. Austin 1 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY 6. St Paul 2 Lost -- LOST LOTTERY
7. Austin 2 WON -- WON LOTTERY
You have to win the lottery for the show you selected FIRST to even be in the ticket pool.
If you do win , thats when priority and seniority applies.
Been this way since 2020 tour.
Some shows are higher in demand then others, thus the reason you won seats with 7th priority.
The only way to fix this and to erase all the confusion is to make the lottery selection a separate process and send the emails to everyone win or lose. Then everyone knows if they won or lost for that show. Then those that won, priority and seniority would then apply to the seat you get.
Yeah its an extra step, but maybe Pearl Jam could convince TM to do it in the future.
Look mate, using big letters doesn't make it more true.
It is not how it worked in 2020. 10club Support @ ticketmaster confirmed it way back then when they botched Oakland draw. It goes by priority no one with a lesser priority gets in over someone with a higher priority. Otherwise, there is no fucking point to the priority.
This^
I really hope that this is still true because if it is, I should be getting Chicago N1 and St Paul N2 tickets.
I don’t think back and sides have gone out yet. Those are my last chance in the lottery
Noblesville 5.7.2010. Lexington 4.26.2016. Nashville 9.16.2022. St Louis 9.18.2022. Chicago 1 9.5.2023. Chicago 2 9.7.2023. *Noblesville 9.10.2023* (Gutted) Seattle 5.30.2024 Noblesville 8.26.2024 Chicago 8.29.2024 Chicago 8.31.2024
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Me and a group of people I talk to regularly have combined for a 1 out of 16 success rate for RES/GA for the Noblesville show. All 12 entries as Noblesville priority #1
I only requested reserved for Noblesville, haven’t heard anything yet. Maybe I am just optimistic but I feel like there are still reserved tix that will go out.
Me and a group of people I talk to regularly have combined for a 1 out of 16 success rate for RES/GA for the Noblesville show. All 12 entries as Noblesville priority #1
That's insane. We had it as #1 and #2 as well and nothing. We definitely screwed up our entries here. Fuck.
Happy that I got one show and can take my son to his first show! Thank you 10 Club! 🙏
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Ok I opened my mouth to early! I just got confirmation of scoring tickets to Chicago 2nd night! The seats are not what I expected for my seniority number 27xxx section 205 row 8 not sure how that works but I’m in the building and my daughter gets to see the band for the 1st time! She’s so damn happy and that makes me happy 😃
Congrats! Awesome that you'll get the experience of sharing in your daughter's first show
Yes thanks! The only thing I should of done differently was choosing Reserved 1st and GA/reserved 2nd that’s the only way it makes sense for me to have gotten seats in the 200’s..
I'm glad to hear you get to see the show with your daughter and that you're content with the outcome, but you did nothing wrong with your selections. You did exactly as Ten Club instructed you to do, and they went as far as to say this would give you the best possible chance at being selected for tickets. The fact that you have a 27xxx number and ended up in the 200 level is a broken system. Period. You did it exactly as you should have and they have a broken system that put MUCH higher Ten Club numbers into better seats. That said, I hope you enjoy the show regardless.
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for the least they could possibly do
Seems like Ticketmaster fucked up Austin N1 pretty good.
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2022 Ottawa 09/03
2016 MSG 1 & 2
2013 Brooklyn (10/18, 10/19) Philadelphia (10/21, 10/22)
2012 Atlanta 09/22
2009 Albany 06/08 (Eddie Solo)
2008 Bonnaroo 6/14
2006 Albany 05/12
2005 Philadelphia 10/03
2000 Saratoga Springs 08/27
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
2000 - Noblesville
2010 - Noblesville
2011 - EV solo St Louis, PJ20 Alpine Valley
2012 - San Fran (Oracle)
2013 - Wrigley, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
2014 - Cincy, St Louis, Detroit
2016 - Lexington, Wrigley
2018 - Wrigley
2022 - Nashville, St Louis
2024 - Noblesville, Wrigley
2010 - Bridge School | 2012 - EV Austin | 2013 - Dallas | 2018 - Rome | 2022 - Oakland Night 1
Noblesville, May 7, 2010
PJ20 Night 1, 2011
Cincinnati, Oct. 1, 2014
Milwaukee, Oct. 20, 2014
Wrigley Field, Aug 20, 2016
Wrigley Field, Aug 22, 2016
Wrigley Field, Aug 18, 2018
Wrigley Field, Aug 20, 2018
St. Louis, Sept. 18, 2022
Chicago, Sept. 5, 2023
Chicago, Sept. 7, 2023
2014 -Tulsa
2016 - Chicago 1
2018 - Seattle 1 & 2
2021 - Ohana I Ohana Encore 1 & 2
2022 - Louisville I OKC
2023 - Ft. Worth 1 & 2 I Austin 1 & 2
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Go down to the how do tickets work for 10c members? It factually states tickets are randomized with consideration based on priority. Ergo, priority 1 should always trump priority 2 and so forth.
09/22/96 - Toledo
10/16/14 - Detroit
09/26/21 - Dana Point
10/01/21 - Dana Point
10/02/21 - Dana Point
05/06/22 - Los Angeles
05/07/22 - Los Angeles
07/03/22 - Stockholm
07/05/22 - Copenhagen
09/08/22 - Toronto
09/16/22 - Nashville
09/18/22 - St. Louis
09/20/22 - OKC
09/05/23 - Chicago
09/07/23 - Chicago
05/16/24 - Vegas
05/18/24 - Vegas
Chicago 1 9.5.2023. Chicago 2 9.7.2023.
*Noblesville 9.10.2023* (Gutted)
Seattle 5.30.2024 Noblesville 8.26.2024 Chicago 8.29.2024 Chicago 8.31.2024
Toledo 96 ◘ Columbus 00 ◘ Pittsburgh 00 ◘ Cleveland 03 ◘ Pittsburgh 03 ◘ Alpine Valley 03 ◘ Noblesville 03 ◘ Columbus 03 ◘ Toledo 04 VFC ◘ London, ON 05 ◘ Cleveland 06 ◘ Philly I & II 06 ◘ Cincinnati 06 ◘ VIC 07 ◘ MSG II 08 ◘ EV Memphis 09 ◘ Columbus 10 ◘ Cleveland 10 ◘ EV Boston 11 ◘ PJ20 ◘ Wrigley Field 13 ◘ Buffalo 13 ◘ Detroit 14 ◘ Louisville BNB 22 ◘ Noblesville 23 (24)?
but there HAS TO BE more tickets to be drawn for St Paul.
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