Official 2023 Ticket Lottery Results Thread

troubledsoulsuniteblog

nrlione said:

Did I screw myself If I ONLY selected Reserved seating for my selections?  I didn't want GA because I'm getting old and lazy, but I would have selected that option if it meant getting tickets vs not getting tickets.  I understand I would have had better odds because I would have been in two lotto's, but was this the right choice If I only wanted seats?  I'm just trying to learn for the next time I try to get 10c tickets.  Thanks!  

I think at this point nobody truly knows. The recommendation was to put in for more, and logic would dictate that the more options you put in, the more lotteries you’d be eligible for. 

But I think the lesson of the last 48+ hours has been that we truly don’t know what the logic here is and what algorithm was implemented to determine these results. 

So… maybe?

also - as a sample size of 1 - I put in RES for Chicago 1 and no other dates or seating options and I got what I requested. Doesn’t prove anything, but that’s my experience. 

tylermoore

filled/unfulfilled means nothing right now. You can check that page all you want. It means nothing right now 

Weston1283

PJammin said:

Weston1283 said:

Until someone convinces me otherwise, I am going to believe that they ran the prior algorithm as normal and that some people who lost GA were not automatically placed into the Reserved lottery as advertised.  There was then a snowball effect that affected all other entries.  GA entries went perfectly smooth, and Reserved seats were a disaster - this is the best explanation.

A few people may have gotten lucky and were placed into the Reserved lotto, but I am going with this until someone at 10C says otherwise.  

This appears to have a high probability of being accurate. Unfortunately the instructions given were to essentially choose all ticket options so many folks end up in that "affected all other entries" bucket. 

Yeah.  I only chose GA/RES because, well, it just made sense as someone who has done plenty of these lotteries in the past.  Once again, poor communication from 10c (shocking to no one)

cblock4life

Did everyone have the dollar hold on your card after choosing? 

Vedd Hedd

Kevinman said:

Vedd Hedd said:

JimmyV said:

Anyone seeing a refund on their credit card? I just have two pending payments for the shows I won. 

Same here.  I was mentioning in another thread....I used a card with a zero balance, but only had a credit limit of $900. I hope the refund goes through in time for me to be charged another $661. Otherwise...do I lose my tickets? Can they let me use another card?

Call and increase your limit..............it takes about 5 minutes.

I was denied.  haha, not sure why, I have good credit.  It might have been a credit freeze I didnt take off. 

nalyd61

I clicked both Options for Austin and ST Paul.  Got GA for 1 and Res for the other.



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drakeheuer14 said:

PJNB said:

drakeheuer14 said:

PJNB said:

drakeheuer14 said:

Ince.es said:

mattcoz said:

Discopij said:

Are people suggesting the GA/Reserved is in any way the same as Reserved?  I thought those were two totally different options where GA/Reserved = Floor (either seated or standing) and Reserved is seated bowl.  So if someone put GA/Reserved as their only option and didn't win, many people with lower priorities would win Reserved instead of them because they were not part of that lottery.

That's not what it said. It said that if you weren't selected for GA you would be put in the pool for Reserved. But, apparently, that didn't happen?

The Reserved choice was supposed to be for those that only wanted Reserved, did not want GA.

Totally agree. That's why I only chose GA&Reserved. Because choosing also Reserved did not make sense to me since it was explained that choosing the first option was already included.

But why take that risk? It said clear as day to select both options for best chances. They told you and you still thought, nah, they must be crazy. 

They are proving to be crazy, but ignoring that prompt is wild to me.

What if clicking all boxes somehow glitched you out of the chance on getting GA since you chose RES only as an option. We would be having the exact same discussion on the opposite side. 

That’s a different issue. Ticketmaster told us how to improve odds and people ignored it. Not the same as they told us how to improve our odds, we all followed instructions, but something else messed up. 

How they ran stuff is a mess, it’s clear, but people willingly disregarding choosing both could not have helped. 

But you are improving your odds since you are selecting GA and RES as apposed to just RES. The bump in the odds being increased  lies on the fact GA is making your chances on getting in the building better. 

Choosing to be in the RES lotto in two different boxes if you strike out on GA should not increase your RES odds in anyway shape or form. 

I am not arguing that at all. 

Ticketmaster said on the selection screen: “ In order to increase your chance of getting tickets, please select all of the seat preferences you would be willing to accept.” 

Yet people decided they knew better and didn’t follow the instruction. 

Again, it’s clear they fucked up, but ignoring that definitely didn’t help some people here. 

The 2nd option of RES only would have been for a person that DID NOT want GA Pit period…..the 1st option of GA/RES was for the sake of not wasting a request of GA only, then giving that same request the option of reverting into a seated RES ticket.

CopperTom

JimmyV said:

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cblock4life said:

Wish one of the moderators would jump in and put an end to speculation. 

@Sea

@Santos L. Halper

Any update you could possibly give, we’re dying here……

The guy we want to hear from is Tim Bierman - @rubysdad

He's busy updating his resume. 

BRWilly

PJammin said:

Weston1283 said:

Until someone convinces me otherwise, I am going to believe that they ran the prior algorithm as normal and that some people who lost GA were not automatically placed into the Reserved lottery as advertised.  There was then a snowball effect that affected all other entries.  GA entries went perfectly smooth, and Reserved seats were a disaster - this is the best explanation.

A few people may have gotten lucky and were placed into the Reserved lotto, but I am going with this until someone at 10C says otherwise.  

This appears to have a high probability of being accurate. Unfortunately the instructions given were to essentially choose all ticket options so many folks end up in that "affected all other entries" bucket. 

Still doesn't answer the priority question. Seems like there were two problems 1) possibly GA/Res were not put into Res if didn't win GA and 2) Priority didn't matter or was conducted differently (and in a way that no logical person would design) for this tour.

JimmyV

Vedd Hedd said:

JimmyV said:

Anyone seeing a refund on their credit card? I just have two pending payments for the shows I won. 

Same here.  I was mentioning in another thread....I used a card with a zero balance, but only had a credit limit of $900. I hope the refund goes through in time for me to be charged another $661. Otherwise...do I lose my tickets? Can they let me use another card?

I don't know the answer. Can you call and get your balance increased? Sucks that you might have to but at least then you wouldn't have to worry. 

Eddieredder

drakeheuer14 said:

PJNB said:

drakeheuer14 said:

PJNB said:

drakeheuer14 said:

Ince.es said:

mattcoz said:

Discopij said:

Are people suggesting the GA/Reserved is in any way the same as Reserved?  I thought those were two totally different options where GA/Reserved = Floor (either seated or standing) and Reserved is seated bowl.  So if someone put GA/Reserved as their only option and didn't win, many people with lower priorities would win Reserved instead of them because they were not part of that lottery.

That's not what it said. It said that if you weren't selected for GA you would be put in the pool for Reserved. But, apparently, that didn't happen?

The Reserved choice was supposed to be for those that only wanted Reserved, did not want GA.

Totally agree. That's why I only chose GA&Reserved. Because choosing also Reserved did not make sense to me since it was explained that choosing the first option was already included.

But why take that risk? It said clear as day to select both options for best chances. They told you and you still thought, nah, they must be crazy. 

They are proving to be crazy, but ignoring that prompt is wild to me.

What if clicking all boxes somehow glitched you out of the chance on getting GA since you chose RES only as an option. We would be having the exact same discussion on the opposite side. 

That’s a different issue. Ticketmaster told us how to improve odds and people ignored it. Not the same as they told us how to improve our odds, we all followed instructions, but something else messed up. 

How they ran stuff is a mess, it’s clear, but people willingly disregarding choosing both could not have helped. 

But you are improving your odds since you are selecting GA and RES as apposed to just RES. The bump in the odds being increased  lies on the fact GA is making your chances on getting in the building better. 

Choosing to be in the RES lotto in two different boxes if you strike out on GA should not increase your RES odds in anyway shape or form. 

I am not arguing that at all. 

Ticketmaster said on the selection screen: “ In order to increase your chance of getting tickets, please select all of the seat preferences you would be willing to accept.” 

Yet people decided they knew better and didn’t follow the instruction. 

Again, it’s clear they fucked up, but ignoring that definitely didn’t help some people here. 

The referee's screwed me. Thats why we lost. 

BRWilly

BloodMeridian80 said:

jniko said:

I think the computer chooses a random name for a show.  The computer looks to see what seat that person put in for.  If it’s available the person gets it.  It looks at your first priority and then second.  It then moves on to next random person.  Priority just tells the computer what you prefer when your name is chosen.  So if I’m the first person chosen I get my pick.  I don’t think priorities are grouped together. 

Again, this is very different from previous years including the 2020 and 2022 draws with TM. If this is the new system going forward they need to clearly state that change.

So if this is the case the lottery system is designed to select a bunch of people to likely win several shows while others miss out completely? 

ReleaseMe

Weston1283 said:

PJammin said:

Weston1283 said:

Until someone convinces me otherwise, I am going to believe that they ran the prior algorithm as normal and that some people who lost GA were not automatically placed into the Reserved lottery as advertised.  There was then a snowball effect that affected all other entries.  GA entries went perfectly smooth, and Reserved seats were a disaster - this is the best explanation.

A few people may have gotten lucky and were placed into the Reserved lotto, but I am going with this until someone at 10C says otherwise.  

This appears to have a high probability of being accurate. Unfortunately the instructions given were to essentially choose all ticket options so many folks end up in that "affected all other entries" bucket. 

Yeah.  I only chose GA/RES because, well, it just made sense as someone who has done plenty of these lotteries in the past.  Once again, poor communication from 10c (shocking to no one)

I agree... wasn't our first rodeo... we selected GA/RES with the notion that if we were not selected in the GA pool... we would be placed in a pool along with the rest of priority one RES.  It makes no sense to even select the RES option as well... It's like putting a hat on top of a hat.

JD87070

lahren said:

So I'm confused. They are reassigning seats and I received the email for my reserved seats for STP show 2. I won GA for night 1. Are the GA tickets also going to be reassigned, or am I safe to say those are ok. I didn't receive a reassignment email for that receipt number, so I'm assuming this doesn't affect the GA tickets. Am I right?

As of right now, yes you’re correct. Nothing has been said about anything changing for people who won the Pit lottery. Could it change by the end of the day? Who knows. But as of now those with Pit appear to be safe.

nrlione

troubledsoulsuniteblog said:

nrlione said:

Did I screw myself If I ONLY selected Reserved seating for my selections?  I didn't want GA because I'm getting old and lazy, but I would have selected that option if it meant getting tickets vs not getting tickets.  I understand I would have had better odds because I would have been in two lotto's, but was this the right choice If I only wanted seats?  I'm just trying to learn for the next time I try to get 10c tickets.  Thanks!  

I think at this point nobody truly knows. The recommendation was to put in for more, and logic would dictate that the more options you put in, the more lotteries you’d be eligible for. 

But I think the lesson of the last 48+ hours has been that we truly don’t know what the logic here is and what algorithm was implemented to determine these results. 

So… maybe?

also - as a sample size of 1 - I put in RES for Chicago 1 and no other dates or seating options and I got what I requested. Doesn’t prove anything, but that’s my experience. 

Thanks for the response.  I had Chicago 1 reserved as my first choice, Indy reserved as 2nd, and Chicago 2 reserved as 3.  As far as I know, I did not get anything - no e-mail and Ticketmaster shows unfulfilled.  Bummer but life goes on.  Holler at a brother if anyone has extra tickets to any of these shows!

machinehum

 

Eddieredder

PJNB said:

drakeheuer14 said:

PJNB said:

drakeheuer14 said:

PJNB said:

drakeheuer14 said:

Ince.es said:

mattcoz said:

Discopij said:

Are people suggesting the GA/Reserved is in any way the same as Reserved?  I thought those were two totally different options where GA/Reserved = Floor (either seated or standing) and Reserved is seated bowl.  So if someone put GA/Reserved as their only option and didn't win, many people with lower priorities would win Reserved instead of them because they were not part of that lottery.

That's not what it said. It said that if you weren't selected for GA you would be put in the pool for Reserved. But, apparently, that didn't happen?

The Reserved choice was supposed to be for those that only wanted Reserved, did not want GA.

Totally agree. That's why I only chose GA&Reserved. Because choosing also Reserved did not make sense to me since it was explained that choosing the first option was already included.

But why take that risk? It said clear as day to select both options for best chances. They told you and you still thought, nah, they must be crazy. 

They are proving to be crazy, but ignoring that prompt is wild to me.

What if clicking all boxes somehow glitched you out of the chance on getting GA since you chose RES only as an option. We would be having the exact same discussion on the opposite side. 

That’s a different issue. Ticketmaster told us how to improve odds and people ignored it. Not the same as they told us how to improve our odds, we all followed instructions, but something else messed up. 

How they ran stuff is a mess, it’s clear, but people willingly disregarding choosing both could not have helped. 

But you are improving your odds since you are selecting GA and RES as apposed to just RES. The bump in the odds being increased  lies on the fact GA is making your chances on getting in the building better. 

Choosing to be in the RES lotto in two different boxes if you strike out on GA should not increase your RES odds in anyway shape or form. 

I am not arguing that at all. 

Ticketmaster said on the selection screen: “ In order to increase your chance of getting tickets, please select all of the seat preferences you would be willing to accept.” 

Yet people decided they knew better and didn’t follow the instruction. 

Again, it’s clear they fucked up, but ignoring that definitely didn’t help some people here. 

But again your odds are greater since you are adding GA as an option so its not a lie. Plus there was lawn and side seats to consider into this. 

What kind of system tells you to put in for the same tickets twice with the same pick. It makes zero sense. Its either you are in the RES lotto or you are not. 

How do you know you got better odds? Hasn't this already be debunked!

Vedd Hedd

JimmyV said:

Vedd Hedd said:

JimmyV said:

Anyone seeing a refund on their credit card? I just have two pending payments for the shows I won. 

Same here.  I was mentioning in another thread....I used a card with a zero balance, but only had a credit limit of $900. I hope the refund goes through in time for me to be charged another $661. Otherwise...do I lose my tickets? Can they let me use another card?

I don't know the answer. Can you call and get your balance increased? Sucks that you might have to but at least then you wouldn't have to worry. 

I called and was denied, not sure why. I have good credit, and this card was paid off recently.  no idea why. maybe its the pending charges. 

lahren

JD87070 said:

lahren said:

So I'm confused. They are reassigning seats and I received the email for my reserved seats for STP show 2. I won GA for night 1. Are the GA tickets also going to be reassigned, or am I safe to say those are ok. I didn't receive a reassignment email for that receipt number, so I'm assuming this doesn't affect the GA tickets. Am I right?

As of right now, yes you’re correct. Nothing has been said about anything changing for people who won the Pit lottery. Could it change by the end of the day? Who knows. But as of now those with Pit appear to be safe.

I guess we cannot accept anything as written in stone until we see the actual tickets on our phone. I think they've made this process far to complicated than it should have been. Just hope I at least keep those Pit tickets. My seats may very well end up better, which I'm hoping, as they weren't exactly what I expected with a 17 year old member number.

BLACK35

nrlione said:

Did I screw myself If I ONLY selected Reserved seating for my selections?  I didn't want GA because I'm getting old and lazy, but I would have selected that option if it meant getting tickets vs not getting tickets.  I understand I would have had better odds because I would have been in two lotto's, but was this the right choice If I only wanted seats?  I'm just trying to learn for the next time I try to get 10c tickets.  Thanks!  

This is what I did for the very same reasons

darwinstheory

For clarity, this is a comedic repost.