Official 2023 Ticket Lottery Results Thread

devonfz

I really think everybody’s gonna get tickets. My second choice for Austin. I got reserve seating section 116 row P not bad. I think my number is two 66,000 somewhere. I’m assuming I’m going to get my first choice if I got my second choice also, I still don’t understand the logic of if you pick GA somehow you’re not gonna get reserved. I love the new format which allows you to go for both if you don’t get GA they move you over to reserve with everybody else. Anybody see a different? Anyways, loving how many tickets to 10 club got for us Michels are really going to be like 10 club only

Blacksheep76

Ticket Master be like....

deb1211

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

now im getting pissed.  I got neither of my austin nights and folks are getting multiple sets?  GUTTEDDDDDDDD

Same..I have nothing and have austin as my only 2 shows and I've seen at least 3 ppl on Facebook with extras as well

whoyouare72

jh275312 said:

JB23237 said:

So people are getting thier 2nd priority for shows before people get their 1st priority for the same show?

People are getting their sixth and seventh choice before others first 

In this case, I think the 2nd priority person won the lottery, and the 1st priority person did not win the lottery.

RFTC

put in for both shows at FW and ATX, got all but night 1 ATX, so it may be a lag thing as other are commenting on. all mine came through an hour ago w/20 min laps between each email. had thought i was completely SOL and living in Houston, that would of sucked. 

PSUS2H

jh275312 said:

JB23237 said:

So people are getting thier 2nd priority for shows before people get their 1st priority for the same show?

People are getting their sixth and seventh choice before others first 

I put in for both CHI shows - member since 2010 (yes I realize that a 457xxx member number isnt low...) nothing yet - but I hit for Denver on the last leg

Roblay

I still haven’t gotten an email but my card was charged for 2 tickets total. They are not in my tickets yet. How do I know which date it’s for and when will I find out if I get the other date. Put in for both St. Paul’s dates

JBob87

machinehum said:

PJNB said:

marra2312 said:

machinehum said:

tylerj said:

PJNB said:

tylerj said:

CopperTom said:

tylerj said:

All, it's not totally confusing as to why someone who listed  any show as 2nd priority would get a ticket and someone with 1st priority wouldn't. My understanding is they group those in 1st priority, run the randomizer/lottery and issue tickets to those who get picked. Once that's done they do that again for 2nd, 3rd, 4th priority etc until all the allotment is gone. 

I could be wrong. Someone let me know if they know otherwise. 

No.  First priority are drawn first.  If tickets remain, they move on to second priority entries.  A first priority person should never lose and a second priority person win. 

That's not how it's worked for the last few tours I don't believe. Been multiple past examples of 2nd, 3rd priority ppl getting tickets and 1st priority ppl getting nothing. it's caused a lot of butthurt for some folks. My first priority was Chicago N1. Haven't received an email yet. Yet some people at 2nd priority have reported getting reserved tickets. 

That is the reason we put priority down. It makes no sense to have priority for pics if it was random as you said. In no way should someone that picked a show as a 2nd get it over someone that put it as a first. That is a broken system

All I'm saying is there was a person here who said they got St Paul tickets for both nights at 5th and 6th priority and then there are people who put those as 1st and/or 2nd priority and haven't heard back yet. I guess they could still get tickets if they're sending out the emails by 10c number. 

People are thinking about "priority" wrong here. This has *nothing* to do with who has "priority" to get drawn, it is *only* and *strictly* your own personal prioritization of your preference of shows to attend. How to translate those personal rankings into something that looks fair across a matrix of multiple people ranking multiple instances is an entire field of study and there are a thousand ways to do it depending on what factors are considered more important. 

Then what is the point of them asking it? Not looking for a fight, just seems to needlessly complicate things if it doesn't have any impact on what order people get drawn.

Lol right it is so simlple

5000 pairs to go out for 10C

Priority 1 is drawn

3000 people have it as a first pick. All win

Priority 2 is drawn

2500 people have it as a second pick. 2000 win. 500 lose. 

Everyone after priority 2 loses 



This is not hard. 

With respect, you're very wrong because you're oversimplifying the problem space. Your example doesn't have 9 events with people ranking subsets of them. A forum post isn't the place to get into it, but for some enlightening lay-audience-oriented discussion take a look for example here: https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/372916/ranked-preference-matching-algorithm or google "ranked matching", "preference matching", "stable matching", "bipartite graphs", etc.

His example is literally how it has worked before today, certainly before TM got involved in the lottery

PJammin

bbiggs said:

PJammin said:

bbiggs said:

Weston1283 said:

bbiggs said:

Couldn’t read all 700 posts, but from what I skimmed through it seems several people have won Chicago with 2nd, 3rd and even 4th priorities. 

As of 4:05 CST I have zero ticket confirmations.  Chicago N1 and N2 were my only selections.  Both GA/Reserved and Reserved options were chosen.

Yes I read every detail to enter and have done this many times before.  Yes my credit card is up to date on TM.  Yes I received a confirmation email for my request.

Something seems seriously broken here. 

There is a working theory that only selecting GA/Res might have been somewhat broken, and that people who didn't win GA were not actually moved into the reserved lotto as advertised 

I did not select only GA/ Reserved though.  I selected the GA/ Reserved AND Reserved Seating options.  Both boxes were checked and confirmed in the email I received the day I submitted the request (Thursday).  I only did this based on the very explicit direction to do so by Ten Club. 

My wife has exact same thing as you Biggs and it’s been radio silence on her end too. 

Sorry to hear bud. I’m cool and composed, but I have to say it’s very frustrating and I think it is something that will need to be addressed if it results in unfulfilled requests. 

Some clarity on the process would definitely  be appreciated. Hope the emails show up soon for all of us waiting. 

lawilczewski2

dmbolp said:

So Austin N1 you either got: GA, 2 Pairs, Nothing?

seems to be the case.

tylerj

machinehum said:

PJNB said:

marra2312 said:

machinehum said:

tylerj said:

PJNB said:

tylerj said:

CopperTom said:

tylerj said:

All, it's not totally confusing as to why someone who listed  any show as 2nd priority would get a ticket and someone with 1st priority wouldn't. My understanding is they group those in 1st priority, run the randomizer/lottery and issue tickets to those who get picked. Once that's done they do that again for 2nd, 3rd, 4th priority etc until all the allotment is gone. 

I could be wrong. Someone let me know if they know otherwise. 

No.  First priority are drawn first.  If tickets remain, they move on to second priority entries.  A first priority person should never lose and a second priority person win. 

That's not how it's worked for the last few tours I don't believe. Been multiple past examples of 2nd, 3rd priority ppl getting tickets and 1st priority ppl getting nothing. it's caused a lot of butthurt for some folks. My first priority was Chicago N1. Haven't received an email yet. Yet some people at 2nd priority have reported getting reserved tickets. 

That is the reason we put priority down. It makes no sense to have priority for pics if it was random as you said. In no way should someone that picked a show as a 2nd get it over someone that put it as a first. That is a broken system

All I'm saying is there was a person here who said they got St Paul tickets for both nights at 5th and 6th priority and then there are people who put those as 1st and/or 2nd priority and haven't heard back yet. I guess they could still get tickets if they're sending out the emails by 10c number. 

People are thinking about "priority" wrong here. This has *nothing* to do with who has "priority" to get drawn, it is *only* and *strictly* your own personal prioritization of your preference of shows to attend. How to translate those personal rankings into something that looks fair across a matrix of multiple people ranking multiple instances is an entire field of study and there are a thousand ways to do it depending on what factors are considered more important. 

Then what is the point of them asking it? Not looking for a fight, just seems to needlessly complicate things if it doesn't have any impact on what order people get drawn.

Lol right it is so simlple

5000 pairs to go out for 10C

Priority 1 is drawn

3000 people have it as a first pick. All win

Priority 2 is drawn

2500 people have it as a second pick. 2000 win. 500 lose. 

Everyone after priority 2 loses 



This is not hard. 

With respect, you're very wrong because you're oversimplifying the problem space. Your example doesn't have 9 events with people ranking subsets of them. A forum post isn't the place to get into it, but for some enlightening lay-audience-oriented discussion take a look for example here: https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/372916/ranked-preference-matching-algorithm or google "ranked matching", "preference matching", "stable matching", "bipartite graphs", etc.

What their (and other people are not getting) is that one has to be picked in the lottery first before priorities mean anything. Not picked in the lottery, and it doesn't matter what your priority is. 

pjhawks

relax people. let the process play out before you give up hope. they are an awful lot of emails that have to go out.  it's not over until it's over

Kscott1074

Just got reserved for Austin N2. That's three out of seven requests (priority, 3, 5, 6)

3days

jdopj said:

Got Chicago 2
but my seats are 215 and my number is 93xxx
??

I got 22nd row on the floor, behind the pit. Truthfully, you will probably have a better vantage.

Indifference71

PJNB said:

marra2312 said:

machinehum said:

tylerj said:

PJNB said:

tylerj said:

CopperTom said:

tylerj said:

All, it's not totally confusing as to why someone who listed  any show as 2nd priority would get a ticket and someone with 1st priority wouldn't. My understanding is they group those in 1st priority, run the randomizer/lottery and issue tickets to those who get picked. Once that's done they do that again for 2nd, 3rd, 4th priority etc until all the allotment is gone. 

I could be wrong. Someone let me know if they know otherwise. 

No.  First priority are drawn first.  If tickets remain, they move on to second priority entries.  A first priority person should never lose and a second priority person win. 

That's not how it's worked for the last few tours I don't believe. Been multiple past examples of 2nd, 3rd priority ppl getting tickets and 1st priority ppl getting nothing. it's caused a lot of butthurt for some folks. My first priority was Chicago N1. Haven't received an email yet. Yet some people at 2nd priority have reported getting reserved tickets. 

That is the reason we put priority down. It makes no sense to have priority for pics if it was random as you said. In no way should someone that picked a show as a 2nd get it over someone that put it as a first. That is a broken system

All I'm saying is there was a person here who said they got St Paul tickets for both nights at 5th and 6th priority and then there are people who put those as 1st and/or 2nd priority and haven't heard back yet. I guess they could still get tickets if they're sending out the emails by 10c number. 

People are thinking about "priority" wrong here. This has *nothing* to do with who has "priority" to get drawn, it is *only* and *strictly* your own personal prioritization of your preference of shows to attend. How to translate those personal rankings into something that looks fair across a matrix of multiple people ranking multiple instances is an entire field of study and there are a thousand ways to do it depending on what factors are considered more important. 

Then what is the point of them asking it? Not looking for a fight, just seems to needlessly complicate things if it doesn't have any impact on what order people get drawn.

Lol right it is so simlple

5000 pairs to go out for 10C

Priority 1 is drawn

3000 people have it as a first pick. All win

Priority 2 is drawn

2500 people have it as a second pick. 2000 win. 500 lose. 

Everyone after priority 2 loses 



This is not hard. 

This is what I've always thought.  Not sure how the hell the lottery and priority rankings work.  And now people are getting multiple pairs for same show in Austin??  What a mess.

gjackx

dmbolp said:

So Austin N1 you either got: GA, 2 Pairs, Nothing?

Nailed it!

lawilczewski2

circlesdown said:

mfc2006 said:

DE4173 said:

GA for Ft Worth 9/15 (night 2); GA Pit or Reserved & Reserved; first priority

Section 126, row 9 for 9/13 (night 1); GA Pit or Reserved & Reserved; second priority


Sample seating chart:

That is a BIG GA section!! Pumped!

This isn’t the layout for the ft worth shows.  I got floor section 2 which isn’t on here.  Someone else posted an accurate one, normal
pit size

Hoagie Breath

I miss the days of standing in line at the box office to get tickets that always went on sale at 10 a.m. on a Saturday morning. 

Show up on Friday night and start partying lol. Sometimes the camping out part turned out to better than the concert lol.

Kind of feel sorry for those who weren't around for the days before the explosion of cell phones and windows '98.

JBob87

tylerj said:

machinehum said:

PJNB said:

marra2312 said:

machinehum said:

tylerj said:

PJNB said:

tylerj said:

CopperTom said:

tylerj said:

All, it's not totally confusing as to why someone who listed  any show as 2nd priority would get a ticket and someone with 1st priority wouldn't. My understanding is they group those in 1st priority, run the randomizer/lottery and issue tickets to those who get picked. Once that's done they do that again for 2nd, 3rd, 4th priority etc until all the allotment is gone. 

I could be wrong. Someone let me know if they know otherwise. 

No.  First priority are drawn first.  If tickets remain, they move on to second priority entries.  A first priority person should never lose and a second priority person win. 

That's not how it's worked for the last few tours I don't believe. Been multiple past examples of 2nd, 3rd priority ppl getting tickets and 1st priority ppl getting nothing. it's caused a lot of butthurt for some folks. My first priority was Chicago N1. Haven't received an email yet. Yet some people at 2nd priority have reported getting reserved tickets. 

That is the reason we put priority down. It makes no sense to have priority for pics if it was random as you said. In no way should someone that picked a show as a 2nd get it over someone that put it as a first. That is a broken system

All I'm saying is there was a person here who said they got St Paul tickets for both nights at 5th and 6th priority and then there are people who put those as 1st and/or 2nd priority and haven't heard back yet. I guess they could still get tickets if they're sending out the emails by 10c number. 

People are thinking about "priority" wrong here. This has *nothing* to do with who has "priority" to get drawn, it is *only* and *strictly* your own personal prioritization of your preference of shows to attend. How to translate those personal rankings into something that looks fair across a matrix of multiple people ranking multiple instances is an entire field of study and there are a thousand ways to do it depending on what factors are considered more important. 

Then what is the point of them asking it? Not looking for a fight, just seems to needlessly complicate things if it doesn't have any impact on what order people get drawn.

Lol right it is so simlple

5000 pairs to go out for 10C

Priority 1 is drawn

3000 people have it as a first pick. All win

Priority 2 is drawn

2500 people have it as a second pick. 2000 win. 500 lose. 

Everyone after priority 2 loses 



This is not hard. 

With respect, you're very wrong because you're oversimplifying the problem space. Your example doesn't have 9 events with people ranking subsets of them. A forum post isn't the place to get into it, but for some enlightening lay-audience-oriented discussion take a look for example here: https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/372916/ranked-preference-matching-algorithm or google "ranked matching", "preference matching", "stable matching", "bipartite graphs", etc.

What their (and other people are not getting) is that one has to be picked in the lottery first before priorities mean anything. Not picked in the lottery, and it doesn't matter what your priority is. 

If that is how it works that is a new way of running the lottery imposed by TM

Get_Right

I do not think anyone can explain what is happening today. There too many anomalies and differences from what we are used to (other than these sales being a shitshow on several occasions). Sending out extra pairs, priority 6 getting tix, low numbers at the back of the floor is definitely unusual.