I am a fan of speaking out and appreciate much of what the band has done.
The problem? Now there's scrutinizing everything and purity tests. Like most of us, they have a job to do and I'm happy to take the strange stance that there is no right and wrong; they have many viable options. They can boycott Texas for their policies (so as not to spend money there) or, conversely, play in places like that to try to raise money / awareness. Either approach is rationale. They can also not base their choice of tour stops on state policies at all. Also viable. I also don't care if the say "we're not going to Texas" in 2022 and decide to go there in 2023. People change.
The only thing I've ever really been bothered by is cancelling the NC show because the negative impact on their fans was far worse than any impact on anyone they were sending messages to. Play where you want to but stick to your commitments. (Also, I knew that after doing that, someone would be able to find something just as bad about almost any other state so they kinda painted themselves into a corner on the "inconsistency" front).
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I am a fan of speaking out and appreciate much of what the band has done.
The problem? Now there's scrutinizing everything and purity tests. Like most of us, they have a job to do and I'm happy to take the strange stance that there is no right and wrong; they have many viable options. They can boycott Texas for their policies (so as not to spend money there) or, conversely, play in places like that to try to raise money / awareness. Either approach is rationale. They can also not base their choice of tour stops on state policies at all. Also viable. I also don't care if the say "we're not going to Texas" in 2022 and decide to go there in 2023. People change.
The only thing I've ever really been bothered by is cancelling the NC show because the negative impact on their fans was far worse than any impact on anyone they were sending messages to. Play where you want to but stick to your commitments. (Also, I knew that after doing that, someone would be able to find something just as bad about almost any other state so they kinda painted themselves into a corner on the "inconsistency" front).
at this point, if they stopped playing where there were bad policies, they'd have to stop playing half the fucking country.
As well they should. There’s enough blue states to sate the demand.
no, they shouldn't.
It’s so funny whenever someone suggests they should only play blue states. What a ridiculous thing.
Why is it ridiculous? They canceled a show that folks had tickets to over a law passed by an elected government. Why not publicly announce, and encourage others to do the same, of not playing states where certain citizens are treated as second or third class citizens? You want to see Pearl Jam? Travel to a state that respects and treats all its citizens as equals.
Yea, ridiculous.
by that standard they should only be playing geneva from now on.
Are you sure?
Yeah some Swiss bankers benefited from the holocaust … so Geneva is out now.. how about Nauru? its world's smallest island nation in the Pacific… probably not because I’m guessing they have some commercial fishing, so someone won’t like that..
I only just learned about Nauru from this post but I am already taking a stand to never see PJ play there.
Well, it’d be a poor business decision on their part but I wouldn’t rule out travelling there. Ohana Fest West. Further West.
First we took an aeroplane Then a boat to Zanzibar
Crossed the border to Morocco Kashmir then Marrakech The lengths we had to go to… to see a Pearl Jam show..
I am a fan of speaking out and appreciate much of what the band has done.
The problem? Now there's scrutinizing everything and purity tests. Like most of us, they have a job to do and I'm happy to take the strange stance that there is no right and wrong; they have many viable options. They can boycott Texas for their policies (so as not to spend money there) or, conversely, play in places like that to try to raise money / awareness. Either approach is rationale. They can also not base their choice of tour stops on state policies at all. Also viable. I also don't care if the say "we're not going to Texas" in 2022 and decide to go there in 2023. People change.
The only thing I've ever really been bothered by is cancelling the NC show because the negative impact on their fans was far worse than any impact on anyone they were sending messages to. Play where you want to but stick to your commitments. (Also, I knew that after doing that, someone would be able to find something just as bad about almost any other state so they kinda painted themselves into a corner on the "inconsistency" front).
Stop being so rational.
There go the tour profits due to the chicken wire expenses. Poor business decision.
I am a fan of speaking out and appreciate much of what the band has done.
The problem? Now there's scrutinizing everything and purity tests. Like most of us, they have a job to do and I'm happy to take the strange stance that there is no right and wrong; they have many viable options. They can boycott Texas for their policies (so as not to spend money there) or, conversely, play in places like that to try to raise money / awareness. Either approach is rationale. They can also not base their choice of tour stops on state policies at all. Also viable. I also don't care if the say "we're not going to Texas" in 2022 and decide to go there in 2023. People change.
The only thing I've ever really been bothered by is cancelling the NC show because the negative impact on their fans was far worse than any impact on anyone they were sending messages to. Play where you want to but stick to your commitments. (Also, I knew that after doing that, someone would be able to find something just as bad about almost any other state so they kinda painted themselves into a corner on the "inconsistency" front).
Stop being so rational.
There go the tour profits due to the chicken wire expenses. Poor business decision.
I am a fan of speaking out and appreciate much of what the band has done.
The problem? Now there's scrutinizing everything and purity tests. Like most of us, they have a job to do and I'm happy to take the strange stance that there is no right and wrong; they have many viable options. They can boycott Texas for their policies (so as not to spend money there) or, conversely, play in places like that to try to raise money / awareness. Either approach is rationale. They can also not base their choice of tour stops on state policies at all. Also viable. I also don't care if the say "we're not going to Texas" in 2022 and decide to go there in 2023. People change.
The only thing I've ever really been bothered by is cancelling the NC show because the negative impact on their fans was far worse than any impact on anyone they were sending messages to. Play where you want to but stick to your commitments. (Also, I knew that after doing that, someone would be able to find something just as bad about almost any other state so they kinda painted themselves into a corner on the "inconsistency" front).
Stop being so rational.
It was/is rational and true. Very well stated. A great question to ask them if you’re ever so lucky. You may be absolutely correct, now what? Boycott every state? Sometimes making “good” trouble backfires.
I am a fan of speaking out and appreciate much of what the band has done.
The problem? Now there's scrutinizing everything and purity tests. Like most of us, they have a job to do and I'm happy to take the strange stance that there is no right and wrong; they have many viable options. They can boycott Texas for their policies (so as not to spend money there) or, conversely, play in places like that to try to raise money / awareness. Either approach is rationale. They can also not base their choice of tour stops on state policies at all. Also viable. I also don't care if the say "we're not going to Texas" in 2022 and decide to go there in 2023. People change.
The only thing I've ever really been bothered by is cancelling the NC show because the negative impact on their fans was far worse than any impact on anyone they were sending messages to. Play where you want to but stick to your commitments. (Also, I knew that after doing that, someone would be able to find something just as bad about almost any other state so they kinda painted themselves into a corner on the "inconsistency" front).
Stop being so rational.
There go the tour profits due to the chicken wire expenses. Poor business decision.
I am a fan of speaking out and appreciate much of what the band has done.
The problem? Now there's scrutinizing everything and purity tests. Like most of us, they have a job to do and I'm happy to take the strange stance that there is no right and wrong; they have many viable options. They can boycott Texas for their policies (so as not to spend money there) or, conversely, play in places like that to try to raise money / awareness. Either approach is rationale. They can also not base their choice of tour stops on state policies at all. Also viable. I also don't care if the say "we're not going to Texas" in 2022 and decide to go there in 2023. People change.
The only thing I've ever really been bothered by is cancelling the NC show because the negative impact on their fans was far worse than any impact on anyone they were sending messages to. Play where you want to but stick to your commitments. (Also, I knew that after doing that, someone would be able to find something just as bad about almost any other state so they kinda painted themselves into a corner on the "inconsistency" front).
Stop being so rational.
There go the tour profits due to the chicken wire expenses. Poor business decision.
Whole thread is ridiculous. People worried Texas politics and laws that don't even live there. Expecting PJ to be some martyr for a political ideology. Like only people they agree with can enjoy the same music. PJ is a business and Texans are buying tickets, get over
I don’t care for the “don’t even live there” argument as most of this shit doesn’t affect me directly being a hoser moose rider.
But I have family and friends in the US, particularly a cousin who is a teacher in Austin who I fear for all the time. Every time I hear of another fucking shooting I scramble to find out where.
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Plus all the folks I’ve gotten to know here over the years I worry about too.
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An interesting (to me) phenomenon that I see happen a lot here and maybe even more so on another music forum I'm a member of is the propensity for people to post repeatedly on a thread that they find is ridiculous. I don't mean to sound crass or shame anyone (come on, you know I love you people!) but if you find a particular thread to be ridiculous, absurd, or a waste of time, remember that no one is making you post there. Good gawd, at least I hope not, lol!
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My mother's sister lives in Texas. She thinks Ted Cruz is a noble person who is there to protect her from the illegals. She's wrong, but she's still my aunt. Her children are still my cousins. I also have family in Indiana.
The difference between Massachusetts and Texas is apparently who is really responsible for society crumbling.
In TEXAS it's just the elected government who are the dicks, the people are misrepresented. In MASSACHUSETTS it's just the people at Celtics games and over at Fenway when Ellis Burks was the centerfielder, THEY'RE the dicks, and the state government is cool. Is that right?
AND the fact that NO ONE in Worcester or Fall Rivahhhhh is open carrying a fucking assault rifle and a sidearm at Dunkin' Donuts to compensate for their SDE.
at this point, if they stopped playing where there were bad policies, they'd have to stop playing half the fucking country.
As well they should. There’s enough blue states to sate the demand.
no, they shouldn't.
It’s so funny whenever someone suggests they should only play blue states. What a ridiculous thing.
Why is it ridiculous? They canceled a show that folks had tickets to over a law passed by an elected government. Why not publicly announce, and encourage others to do the same, of not playing states where certain citizens are treated as second or third class citizens? You want to see Pearl Jam? Travel to a state that respects and treats all its citizens as equals.
Yea, ridiculous.
Please tell me what state does this. I would like to move there.
I don’t think people realize that not even half the states have included sexual orientation as a protected group in their anti-discrimination laws.
AND the fact that NO ONE in Worcester or Fall Rivahhhhh is open carrying a fucking assault rifle and a sidearm at Dunkin' Donuts to compensate for their SDE.
There's "Open Carry" in the Mass state quarter...HAHAHA
Loading a musket was a multiple-step process. Often bullets and powder were packaged into greased paper cartridges, which also served as the patch placed between the shot and the powder. To load the musket, a cartridge was torn open by biting and tearing off the tip. The powder was poured into the barrel, the cartridge was reversed, and the lead ball was rammed paper-end first into the barrel with the ramrod. The exterior pan was primed with fine black powder, the firearm was cocked, and the frizzen closed. Only then could the shooter could aim and fire.
The rate of fire is one of the most important aspects of any firearm, especially for rifles. A fast-firing rifle is one that will let you get your shots off more quickly than one that has a slow fire rate.
A standard semi-auto AR15 chambered in .223/5.56mm can fire up to 45 rounds per minute, allowing the user to adjust and compensate for center mass as they are firing. Full auto and binary triggers will greatly increase the rate of fire.
Loading a musket was a multiple-step process. Often bullets and powder were packaged into greased paper cartridges, which also served as the patch placed between the shot and the powder. To load the musket, a cartridge was torn open by biting and tearing off the tip. The powder was poured into the barrel, the cartridge was reversed, and the lead ball was rammed paper-end first into the barrel with the ramrod. The exterior pan was primed with fine black powder, the firearm was cocked, and the frizzen closed. Only then could the shooter could aim and fire.
at this point, if they stopped playing where there were bad policies, they'd have to stop playing half the fucking country.
As well they should. There’s enough blue states to sate the demand.
no, they shouldn't.
It’s so funny whenever someone suggests they should only play blue states. What a ridiculous thing.
Why is it ridiculous? They canceled a show that folks had tickets to over a law passed by an elected government. Why not publicly announce, and encourage others to do the same, of not playing states where certain citizens are treated as second or third class citizens? You want to see Pearl Jam? Travel to a state that respects and treats all its citizens as equals.
Yea, ridiculous.
Please tell me what state does this. I would like to move there.
I don’t think people realize that not even half the states have included sexual orientation as a protected group in their anti-discrimination laws.
Guess we can't have any shows in the US anymore.. ::shrug::
No, not just in the states that haven’t voted for it yet, voted no, or whose congressional delegations continue to deny women equal rights under the law.
Boston has had its share of race issues over the years, so I’m sure someone could start a stupid ass thread for that…
My point is everywhere has something… MA legalizing gay marriage has little to do with their race issues over the years. We could use Whataboutism all day. And No, “most places are not perfect”… should be, “No where is perfect”.. quality of life matrix are pretty good in most states, but compare real estate prices of Dallas vs Boston and get back to me… .. not defending Texas ( as you can see from earlier posts), but they do have the highest Latino population in the entire US… you’re lumping current asshole politicians with the history of the entire state is ridiculous. Texas has had 4 republican governors in their entire history, how many has Mass had? as I said plenty of things you could dig up on Mass other than bad race issues and burning witches…lol but what’s the point… no where is perfect and things change over time… not playing a few concerts won’t change anything except to punish people for their geographic location..
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The problem? Now there's scrutinizing everything and purity tests. Like most of us, they have a job to do and I'm happy to take the strange stance that there is no right and wrong; they have many viable options. They can boycott Texas for their policies (so as not to spend money there) or, conversely, play in places like that to try to raise money / awareness. Either approach is rationale. They can also not base their choice of tour stops on state policies at all. Also viable. I also don't care if the say "we're not going to Texas" in 2022 and decide to go there in 2023. People change.
The only thing I've ever really been bothered by is cancelling the NC show because the negative impact on their fans was far worse than any impact on anyone they were sending messages to. Play where you want to but stick to your commitments. (Also, I knew that after doing that, someone would be able to find something just as bad about almost any other state so they kinda painted themselves into a corner on the "inconsistency" front).
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She's wrong, but she's still my aunt. Her children are still my cousins. I also have family in Indiana.
The difference between Massachusetts and Texas is apparently who is really responsible for society crumbling.
In TEXAS it's just the elected government who are the dicks, the people are misrepresented.
In MASSACHUSETTS it's just the people at Celtics games and over at Fenway when Ellis Burks was the centerfielder, THEY'RE the dicks, and the state government is cool. Is that right?
AND the fact that NO ONE in Worcester or Fall Rivahhhhh is open carrying a fucking assault rifle and a sidearm at Dunkin' Donuts to compensate for their SDE.
How Long Does It Take to Reload a Musket?
Loading a musket was a multiple-step process. Often bullets and powder were packaged into greased paper cartridges, which also served as the patch placed between the shot and the powder. To load the musket, a cartridge was torn open by biting and tearing off the tip. The powder was poured into the barrel, the cartridge was reversed, and the lead ball was rammed paper-end first into the barrel with the ramrod. The exterior pan was primed with fine black powder, the firearm was cocked, and the frizzen closed. Only then could the shooter could aim and fire.https://www.reference.com/world-view/long-reload-musket-f38b9c2f3e79ce7a
How Fast Can You Fire An Ar-15?
The rate of fire is one of the most important aspects of any firearm, especially for rifles. A fast-firing rifle is one that will let you get your shots off more quickly than one that has a slow fire rate.
A standard semi-auto AR15 chambered in .223/5.56mm can fire up to 45 rounds per minute, allowing the user to adjust and compensate for center mass as they are firing. Full auto and binary triggers will greatly increase the rate of fire.
https://neckbonearmory.com/how-fast-can-you-fire-an-ar-15-rate-of-fire-by-caliber/
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