Pearl Jam playing TEXAS?

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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    brianlux said:
    ikiT said:
    I moved this outta the Tour Announcement thread..."Ok. Whatever, man. This is a thread for the tour. I’m seeing 4 shows I can drive to so I’m happy and done discussing politics. Have a good day." 

    Simple question...what's the thinking behind the FOUR dates in Greg Abbott's TEXAS on this minitour (AKA Florida's cousin)? 
    I'm old enough to remember when social issues mattered to the band more than social media.

    PJ should never reward fascists.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw

    https://youtu.be/9fR2r8Qlyyk

    Ya better than this.
    People like you are the true fascists. Calling everything and everyone that might not agree with every progressive leaning topic a fascist.

    LOL. 

    The fact that you believe PJ is playing four concerts in Texas to "reward the fascists" is hilarious, yet sad, at the same time. 

    I almost feel sorry for you , delusional with this crazy idea, that Pearl Jam fans "that can drive to the show" don't want to discuss politics with you and are also rewarding the fascists and must be called out by you.

    They don't want to discuss politics with you because it doesn't consume their lives, politics doesn't make up 95% of their posts on an online forum for a fan club of a band they happen to like, and they sure as fuck don't want to get accused of being called a fascist (or a racist, ot a homophobe, or a transphobe, islamaphobe, or whatever other "phobe" your ultra progressive woke mind can come up with and use as a weapon in the hopes of silencing any opposing opinions and close the door on any discussion),  they just want to go see a concert is all.

    If you were a true fan of this band, you would be happy for them as the other 99.5% of the members of this forum are. But you make several posts about this in different threads, then decided it deserves it's very own thread and then cry about it being moved to it's proper place on the forum because you know 90% of the member won't see it. You wear your social justice warrior badge well and want everyone to know it, don't you lol ?

    Pearl Jam has always been a left leaning band. I am a registered Democrat and my beliefs also lean to the left. Do I agree with every stance Pearl Jam has ever taken? For the most part, yes, but not always. And guess what ? Opinions change all the time. Maybe PJ is playing Texas to change some minds, or maybe, just maybe, while the hope of changing peoples mind is still their in their heads, they're just playing Texas because that area of the country hasn't had arena shows in a while, and maybe Ed can mention the abortion issues at some shows down there while they're at it. 

    Win, win, right?

    Nah, not for people like you. Scream and yell like fucking babies and assume all kinds of shit about people when you have no idea what is going thru their minds at any given time and make sure to call them at least one of the three hail marys out of the progressive playbook for dummies.

    (1) A   -----ist.   (racist, facist, etc.)

    (2) An anti ------   (feminist, semite, etc.)

    (3) A -------phobe     (transphobe, islamaphobe, etc.)

    You have no idea why PJ hasn't played arena shows shows in Texas for quite sometime, yet in your woke delusional mind, you assume this to be because Republicans won some elections n Texas, elected are loud mouth Republican Governor and every resident is now guilty by association  and  as a result were being punished and cancelled by Pearl Jam. How dare they play shows there now?  

    Assuming is a motherfucker. And is the dominant trait of a true fascist.

    Here's some food for thought while we're at it. Progressives like yourself with your cancel culture and all the other delusional bullshit (like defund the police, not going so well where I live) have hijacked the Democrat Party as your own and I no longer consider myself a Democrat because of people like you. It'll be a cold day in hell that I become a registered Republican. But when it comes down to a choice between a woke progressive Democrat vs. a Republican in any and all future elections that I'm able to take part in, Republican all the way. Just wanted you know that. I aint the only one thinking like these days either, and I say this as a 28 year proud member of the Philadelphia Democratic City Committee in Philadelphia, PA.

    And if it's Biden v. Trump again ? Christ I hope not, Biden sold his soul to the progressives and ain't there mentally anymore and Trump, is same as ever asshole Trump and all the bullshit that comes with asshole Trump. But the ultra progressive woke agenda that takes priority over common fucking sense and has hijacked the Democrat Party will force me to vote for Trump. Hell, maybe I'll even move to Texas, seems to be PJ's new home base lol.


    First off, Hoagie, nothing I'm going to say here is or isn't in defense of ikiT.
    Bold words here are yours:

    They don't want to discuss politics with you because it doesn't consume their lives, politics doesn't make up 95% of their posts on an online forum for a fan club of a band they happen to like,
    Actaully, 95% of the post on this section of the PJ forums (AMT) are related to discussing politics.  I'm guessing you are not familiar with the A Moving Train section you are posting in.  You also don't sound like someone who is very aware of the political stances Pearl Jam and the majority of their fans do take.  You might find a Ted Nugent site more to your liking.  I mean, I don't know?  Just a suggestion.

    People like you are the true fascists.
    I almost feel sorry for you , delusional with this crazy idea...
    people like you. Scream and yell like fucking babies...
    ...your woke delusional mind...
    Progressives like yourself with your cancel culture and all the other delusional bullshit...

    Well, holy crap man, first of all, I hope you don't have a coronary here.  Maybe check out the AMT Lounge Car.  It's a great place to relax and bring down the blood pressure a bit.  I'm kind of rusty on CPR, but I'll buy the first round if that helps.
    Secondly- and this is not a shaming thing or an attack on you, nor, again, is it a defense of another member here- but, look man, that kind of personal-attach nonsense will get you bocome oted out of here in no time.  Do yourself a favor and read the forum guidelines. 





    Eh, fuck Ted Nugent lol. 

    I know what part of the forum I'm on, I just never post in here. And yes I know Pearl Jams politics, I just dont think they were ever punishing Texas by not playing there is all, and if you read my post you'd know what my politics are. I consider my self a liberal, always have, just not far left progressive. And if you can't tell, I kind of have of beef with them these days lol. 
    It's refreshing to see some common sense around these parts. Thank you for your honesty. 
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,288
    JB16057 said:
    brianlux said:
    ikiT said:
    I moved this outta the Tour Announcement thread..."Ok. Whatever, man. This is a thread for the tour. I’m seeing 4 shows I can drive to so I’m happy and done discussing politics. Have a good day." 

    Simple question...what's the thinking behind the FOUR dates in Greg Abbott's TEXAS on this minitour (AKA Florida's cousin)? 
    I'm old enough to remember when social issues mattered to the band more than social media.

    PJ should never reward fascists.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw

    https://youtu.be/9fR2r8Qlyyk

    Ya better than this.
    People like you are the true fascists. Calling everything and everyone that might not agree with every progressive leaning topic a fascist.

    LOL. 

    The fact that you believe PJ is playing four concerts in Texas to "reward the fascists" is hilarious, yet sad, at the same time. 

    I almost feel sorry for you , delusional with this crazy idea, that Pearl Jam fans "that can drive to the show" don't want to discuss politics with you and are also rewarding the fascists and must be called out by you.

    They don't want to discuss politics with you because it doesn't consume their lives, politics doesn't make up 95% of their posts on an online forum for a fan club of a band they happen to like, and they sure as fuck don't want to get accused of being called a fascist (or a racist, ot a homophobe, or a transphobe, islamaphobe, or whatever other "phobe" your ultra progressive woke mind can come up with and use as a weapon in the hopes of silencing any opposing opinions and close the door on any discussion),  they just want to go see a concert is all.

    If you were a true fan of this band, you would be happy for them as the other 99.5% of the members of this forum are. But you make several posts about this in different threads, then decided it deserves it's very own thread and then cry about it being moved to it's proper place on the forum because you know 90% of the member won't see it. You wear your social justice warrior badge well and want everyone to know it, don't you lol ?

    Pearl Jam has always been a left leaning band. I am a registered Democrat and my beliefs also lean to the left. Do I agree with every stance Pearl Jam has ever taken? For the most part, yes, but not always. And guess what ? Opinions change all the time. Maybe PJ is playing Texas to change some minds, or maybe, just maybe, while the hope of changing peoples mind is still their in their heads, they're just playing Texas because that area of the country hasn't had arena shows in a while, and maybe Ed can mention the abortion issues at some shows down there while they're at it. 

    Win, win, right?

    Nah, not for people like you. Scream and yell like fucking babies and assume all kinds of shit about people when you have no idea what is going thru their minds at any given time and make sure to call them at least one of the three hail marys out of the progressive playbook for dummies.

    (1) A   -----ist.   (racist, facist, etc.)

    (2) An anti ------   (feminist, semite, etc.)

    (3) A -------phobe     (transphobe, islamaphobe, etc.)

    You have no idea why PJ hasn't played arena shows shows in Texas for quite sometime, yet in your woke delusional mind, you assume this to be because Republicans won some elections n Texas, elected are loud mouth Republican Governor and every resident is now guilty by association  and  as a result were being punished and cancelled by Pearl Jam. How dare they play shows there now?  

    Assuming is a motherfucker. And is the dominant trait of a true fascist.

    Here's some food for thought while we're at it. Progressives like yourself with your cancel culture and all the other delusional bullshit (like defund the police, not going so well where I live) have hijacked the Democrat Party as your own and I no longer consider myself a Democrat because of people like you. It'll be a cold day in hell that I become a registered Republican. But when it comes down to a choice between a woke progressive Democrat vs. a Republican in any and all future elections that I'm able to take part in, Republican all the way. Just wanted you know that. I aint the only one thinking like these days either, and I say this as a 28 year proud member of the Philadelphia Democratic City Committee in Philadelphia, PA.

    And if it's Biden v. Trump again ? Christ I hope not, Biden sold his soul to the progressives and ain't there mentally anymore and Trump, is same as ever asshole Trump and all the bullshit that comes with asshole Trump. But the ultra progressive woke agenda that takes priority over common fucking sense and has hijacked the Democrat Party will force me to vote for Trump. Hell, maybe I'll even move to Texas, seems to be PJ's new home base lol.


    First off, Hoagie, nothing I'm going to say here is or isn't in defense of ikiT.
    Bold words here are yours:

    They don't want to discuss politics with you because it doesn't consume their lives, politics doesn't make up 95% of their posts on an online forum for a fan club of a band they happen to like,
    Actaully, 95% of the post on this section of the PJ forums (AMT) are related to discussing politics.  I'm guessing you are not familiar with the A Moving Train section you are posting in.  You also don't sound like someone who is very aware of the political stances Pearl Jam and the majority of their fans do take.  You might find a Ted Nugent site more to your liking.  I mean, I don't know?  Just a suggestion.

    People like you are the true fascists.
    I almost feel sorry for you , delusional with this crazy idea...
    people like you. Scream and yell like fucking babies...
    ...your woke delusional mind...
    Progressives like yourself with your cancel culture and all the other delusional bullshit...

    Well, holy crap man, first of all, I hope you don't have a coronary here.  Maybe check out the AMT Lounge Car.  It's a great place to relax and bring down the blood pressure a bit.  I'm kind of rusty on CPR, but I'll buy the first round if that helps.
    Secondly- and this is not a shaming thing or an attack on you, nor, again, is it a defense of another member here- but, look man, that kind of personal-attach nonsense will get you bocome oted out of here in no time.  Do yourself a favor and read the forum guidelines. 





    Eh, fuck Ted Nugent lol. 

    I know what part of the forum I'm on, I just never post in here. And yes I know Pearl Jams politics, I just dont think they were ever punishing Texas by not playing there is all, and if you read my post you'd know what my politics are. I consider my self a liberal, always have, just not far left progressive. And if you can't tell, I kind of have of beef with them these days lol. 
    It's refreshing to see some common sense around these parts. Thank you for your honesty. 

    Yeah, I hear you both.  Fuck Ted Nugent.  :lol:

    This place cracks me up, haha. 
    Off to the lounge for some much needed coffee.  Black socialist commie pinko French Roast, please.  :lol:
    "Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
    -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"

    "Try to not spook the horse."
    -Neil Young













  • KatKat Posts: 4,878
    Return to the topic, please....not discussing each other. 
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,288
    Kat said:
    Return to the topic, please....not discussing each other. 

    My bad, sorry. 
    "Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
    -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"

    "Try to not spook the horse."
    -Neil Young













  • HobbesHobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,427
    ikiT said:
    I moved this outta the Tour Announcement thread..."Ok. Whatever, man. This is a thread for the tour. I’m seeing 4 shows I can drive to so I’m happy and done discussing politics. Have a good day." 

    Simple question...what's the thinking behind the FOUR dates in Greg Abbott's TEXAS on this minitour (AKA Florida's cousin)? 
    I'm old enough to remember when social issues mattered to the band more than social media.

    PJ should never reward fascists.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw

    https://youtu.be/9fR2r8Qlyyk

    Ya better than this.
    People like you are the true fascists. Calling everything and everyone that might not agree with every progressive leaning topic a fascist.

    LOL. 

    The fact that you believe PJ is playing four concerts in Texas to "reward the fascists" is hilarious, yet sad, at the same time. 

    I almost feel sorry for you , delusional with this crazy idea, that Pearl Jam fans "that can drive to the show" don't want to discuss politics with you and are also rewarding the fascists and must be called out by you.

    They don't want to discuss politics with you because it doesn't consume their lives, politics doesn't make up 95% of their posts on an online forum for a fan club of a band they happen to like, and they sure as fuck don't want to get accused of being called a fascist (or a racist, ot a homophobe, or a transphobe, islamaphobe, or whatever other "phobe" your ultra progressive woke mind can come up with and use as a weapon in the hopes of silencing any opposing opinions and close the door on any discussion),  they just want to go see a concert is all.

    If you were a true fan of this band, you would be happy for them as the other 99.5% of the members of this forum are. But you make several posts about this in different threads, then decided it deserves it's very own thread and then cry about it being moved to it's proper place on the forum because you know 90% of the member won't see it. You wear your social justice warrior badge well and want everyone to know it, don't you lol ?

    Pearl Jam has always been a left leaning band. I am a registered Democrat and my beliefs also lean to the left. Do I agree with every stance Pearl Jam has ever taken? For the most part, yes, but not always. And guess what ? Opinions change all the time. Maybe PJ is playing Texas to change some minds, or maybe, just maybe, while the hope of changing peoples mind is still their in their heads, they're just playing Texas because that area of the country hasn't had arena shows in a while, and maybe Ed can mention the abortion issues at some shows down there while they're at it. 

    Win, win, right?

    Nah, not for people like you. Scream and yell like fucking babies and assume all kinds of shit about people when you have no idea what is going thru their minds at any given time and make sure to call them at least one of the three hail marys out of the progressive playbook for dummies.

    (1) A   -----ist.   (racist, facist, etc.)

    (2) An anti ------   (feminist, semite, etc.)

    (3) A -------phobe     (transphobe, islamaphobe, etc.)

    You have no idea why PJ hasn't played arena shows shows in Texas for quite sometime, yet in your woke delusional mind, you assume this to be because Republicans won some elections n Texas, elected are loud mouth Republican Governor and every resident is now guilty by association  and  as a result were being punished and cancelled by Pearl Jam. How dare they play shows there now?  

    Assuming is a motherfucker. And is the dominant trait of a true fascist.

    Here's some food for thought while we're at it. Progressives like yourself with your cancel culture and all the other delusional bullshit (like defund the police, not going so well where I live) have hijacked the Democrat Party as your own and I no longer consider myself a Democrat because of people like you. It'll be a cold day in hell that I become a registered Republican. But when it comes down to a choice between a woke progressive Democrat vs. a Republican in any and all future elections that I'm able to take part in, Republican all the way. Just wanted you know that. I aint the only one thinking like these days either, and I say this as a 28 year proud member of the Philadelphia Democratic City Committee in Philadelphia, PA.

    And if it's Biden v. Trump again ? Christ I hope not, Biden sold his soul to the progressives and ain't there mentally anymore and Trump, is same as ever asshole Trump and all the bullshit that comes with asshole Trump. But the ultra progressive woke agenda that takes priority over common fucking sense and has hijacked the Democrat Party will force me to vote for Trump. Hell, maybe I'll even move to Texas, seems to be PJ's new home base lol.


    Define "woke."
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,237
    Hobbes said:
    ikiT said:
    I moved this outta the Tour Announcement thread..."Ok. Whatever, man. This is a thread for the tour. I’m seeing 4 shows I can drive to so I’m happy and done discussing politics. Have a good day." 

    Simple question...what's the thinking behind the FOUR dates in Greg Abbott's TEXAS on this minitour (AKA Florida's cousin)? 
    I'm old enough to remember when social issues mattered to the band more than social media.

    PJ should never reward fascists.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw

    https://youtu.be/9fR2r8Qlyyk

    Ya better than this.
    People like you are the true fascists. Calling everything and everyone that might not agree with every progressive leaning topic a fascist.

    LOL. 

    The fact that you believe PJ is playing four concerts in Texas to "reward the fascists" is hilarious, yet sad, at the same time. 

    I almost feel sorry for you , delusional with this crazy idea, that Pearl Jam fans "that can drive to the show" don't want to discuss politics with you and are also rewarding the fascists and must be called out by you.

    They don't want to discuss politics with you because it doesn't consume their lives, politics doesn't make up 95% of their posts on an online forum for a fan club of a band they happen to like, and they sure as fuck don't want to get accused of being called a fascist (or a racist, ot a homophobe, or a transphobe, islamaphobe, or whatever other "phobe" your ultra progressive woke mind can come up with and use as a weapon in the hopes of silencing any opposing opinions and close the door on any discussion),  they just want to go see a concert is all.

    If you were a true fan of this band, you would be happy for them as the other 99.5% of the members of this forum are. But you make several posts about this in different threads, then decided it deserves it's very own thread and then cry about it being moved to it's proper place on the forum because you know 90% of the member won't see it. You wear your social justice warrior badge well and want everyone to know it, don't you lol ?

    Pearl Jam has always been a left leaning band. I am a registered Democrat and my beliefs also lean to the left. Do I agree with every stance Pearl Jam has ever taken? For the most part, yes, but not always. And guess what ? Opinions change all the time. Maybe PJ is playing Texas to change some minds, or maybe, just maybe, while the hope of changing peoples mind is still their in their heads, they're just playing Texas because that area of the country hasn't had arena shows in a while, and maybe Ed can mention the abortion issues at some shows down there while they're at it. 

    Win, win, right?

    Nah, not for people like you. Scream and yell like fucking babies and assume all kinds of shit about people when you have no idea what is going thru their minds at any given time and make sure to call them at least one of the three hail marys out of the progressive playbook for dummies.

    (1) A   -----ist.   (racist, facist, etc.)

    (2) An anti ------   (feminist, semite, etc.)

    (3) A -------phobe     (transphobe, islamaphobe, etc.)

    You have no idea why PJ hasn't played arena shows shows in Texas for quite sometime, yet in your woke delusional mind, you assume this to be because Republicans won some elections n Texas, elected are loud mouth Republican Governor and every resident is now guilty by association  and  as a result were being punished and cancelled by Pearl Jam. How dare they play shows there now?  

    Assuming is a motherfucker. And is the dominant trait of a true fascist.

    Here's some food for thought while we're at it. Progressives like yourself with your cancel culture and all the other delusional bullshit (like defund the police, not going so well where I live) have hijacked the Democrat Party as your own and I no longer consider myself a Democrat because of people like you. It'll be a cold day in hell that I become a registered Republican. But when it comes down to a choice between a woke progressive Democrat vs. a Republican in any and all future elections that I'm able to take part in, Republican all the way. Just wanted you know that. I aint the only one thinking like these days either, and I say this as a 28 year proud member of the Philadelphia Democratic City Committee in Philadelphia, PA.

    And if it's Biden v. Trump again ? Christ I hope not, Biden sold his soul to the progressives and ain't there mentally anymore and Trump, is same as ever asshole Trump and all the bullshit that comes with asshole Trump. But the ultra progressive woke agenda that takes priority over common fucking sense and has hijacked the Democrat Party will force me to vote for Trump. Hell, maybe I'll even move to Texas, seems to be PJ's new home base lol.


    Define "woke."

    thats a good place to start
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,317
    Hobbes said:
    ikiT said:
    I moved this outta the Tour Announcement thread..."Ok. Whatever, man. This is a thread for the tour. I’m seeing 4 shows I can drive to so I’m happy and done discussing politics. Have a good day." 

    Simple question...what's the thinking behind the FOUR dates in Greg Abbott's TEXAS on this minitour (AKA Florida's cousin)? 
    I'm old enough to remember when social issues mattered to the band more than social media.

    PJ should never reward fascists.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw

    https://youtu.be/9fR2r8Qlyyk

    Ya better than this.
    People like you are the true fascists. Calling everything and everyone that might not agree with every progressive leaning topic a fascist.

    LOL. 

    The fact that you believe PJ is playing four concerts in Texas to "reward the fascists" is hilarious, yet sad, at the same time. 

    I almost feel sorry for you , delusional with this crazy idea, that Pearl Jam fans "that can drive to the show" don't want to discuss politics with you and are also rewarding the fascists and must be called out by you.

    They don't want to discuss politics with you because it doesn't consume their lives, politics doesn't make up 95% of their posts on an online forum for a fan club of a band they happen to like, and they sure as fuck don't want to get accused of being called a fascist (or a racist, ot a homophobe, or a transphobe, islamaphobe, or whatever other "phobe" your ultra progressive woke mind can come up with and use as a weapon in the hopes of silencing any opposing opinions and close the door on any discussion),  they just want to go see a concert is all.

    If you were a true fan of this band, you would be happy for them as the other 99.5% of the members of this forum are. But you make several posts about this in different threads, then decided it deserves it's very own thread and then cry about it being moved to it's proper place on the forum because you know 90% of the member won't see it. You wear your social justice warrior badge well and want everyone to know it, don't you lol ?

    Pearl Jam has always been a left leaning band. I am a registered Democrat and my beliefs also lean to the left. Do I agree with every stance Pearl Jam has ever taken? For the most part, yes, but not always. And guess what ? Opinions change all the time. Maybe PJ is playing Texas to change some minds, or maybe, just maybe, while the hope of changing peoples mind is still their in their heads, they're just playing Texas because that area of the country hasn't had arena shows in a while, and maybe Ed can mention the abortion issues at some shows down there while they're at it. 

    Win, win, right?

    Nah, not for people like you. Scream and yell like fucking babies and assume all kinds of shit about people when you have no idea what is going thru their minds at any given time and make sure to call them at least one of the three hail marys out of the progressive playbook for dummies.

    (1) A   -----ist.   (racist, facist, etc.)

    (2) An anti ------   (feminist, semite, etc.)

    (3) A -------phobe     (transphobe, islamaphobe, etc.)

    You have no idea why PJ hasn't played arena shows shows in Texas for quite sometime, yet in your woke delusional mind, you assume this to be because Republicans won some elections n Texas, elected are loud mouth Republican Governor and every resident is now guilty by association  and  as a result were being punished and cancelled by Pearl Jam. How dare they play shows there now?  

    Assuming is a motherfucker. And is the dominant trait of a true fascist.

    Here's some food for thought while we're at it. Progressives like yourself with your cancel culture and all the other delusional bullshit (like defund the police, not going so well where I live) have hijacked the Democrat Party as your own and I no longer consider myself a Democrat because of people like you. It'll be a cold day in hell that I become a registered Republican. But when it comes down to a choice between a woke progressive Democrat vs. a Republican in any and all future elections that I'm able to take part in, Republican all the way. Just wanted you know that. I aint the only one thinking like these days either, and I say this as a 28 year proud member of the Philadelphia Democratic City Committee in Philadelphia, PA.

    And if it's Biden v. Trump again ? Christ I hope not, Biden sold his soul to the progressives and ain't there mentally anymore and Trump, is same as ever asshole Trump and all the bullshit that comes with asshole Trump. But the ultra progressive woke agenda that takes priority over common fucking sense and has hijacked the Democrat Party will force me to vote for Trump. Hell, maybe I'll even move to Texas, seems to be PJ's new home base lol.


    Define "woke."
    Or “ultra progressive’woke’ agenda.” Seems scary. Boo!
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,288
    Woke, lol.  Try awoke.  "I awoke to the pleasant smell of coffee brewing."
    I know... radical!
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Hobbes said:
    ikiT said:
    I moved this outta the Tour Announcement thread..."Ok. Whatever, man. This is a thread for the tour. I’m seeing 4 shows I can drive to so I’m happy and done discussing politics. Have a good day." 

    Simple question...what's the thinking behind the FOUR dates in Greg Abbott's TEXAS on this minitour (AKA Florida's cousin)? 
    I'm old enough to remember when social issues mattered to the band more than social media.

    PJ should never reward fascists.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw

    https://youtu.be/9fR2r8Qlyyk

    Ya better than this.
    People like you are the true fascists. Calling everything and everyone that might not agree with every progressive leaning topic a fascist.

    LOL. 

    The fact that you believe PJ is playing four concerts in Texas to "reward the fascists" is hilarious, yet sad, at the same time. 

    I almost feel sorry for you , delusional with this crazy idea, that Pearl Jam fans "that can drive to the show" don't want to discuss politics with you and are also rewarding the fascists and must be called out by you.

    They don't want to discuss politics with you because it doesn't consume their lives, politics doesn't make up 95% of their posts on an online forum for a fan club of a band they happen to like, and they sure as fuck don't want to get accused of being called a fascist (or a racist, ot a homophobe, or a transphobe, islamaphobe, or whatever other "phobe" your ultra progressive woke mind can come up with and use as a weapon in the hopes of silencing any opposing opinions and close the door on any discussion),  they just want to go see a concert is all.

    If you were a true fan of this band, you would be happy for them as the other 99.5% of the members of this forum are. But you make several posts about this in different threads, then decided it deserves it's very own thread and then cry about it being moved to it's proper place on the forum because you know 90% of the member won't see it. You wear your social justice warrior badge well and want everyone to know it, don't you lol ?

    Pearl Jam has always been a left leaning band. I am a registered Democrat and my beliefs also lean to the left. Do I agree with every stance Pearl Jam has ever taken? For the most part, yes, but not always. And guess what ? Opinions change all the time. Maybe PJ is playing Texas to change some minds, or maybe, just maybe, while the hope of changing peoples mind is still their in their heads, they're just playing Texas because that area of the country hasn't had arena shows in a while, and maybe Ed can mention the abortion issues at some shows down there while they're at it. 

    Win, win, right?

    Nah, not for people like you. Scream and yell like fucking babies and assume all kinds of shit about people when you have no idea what is going thru their minds at any given time and make sure to call them at least one of the three hail marys out of the progressive playbook for dummies.

    (1) A   -----ist.   (racist, facist, etc.)

    (2) An anti ------   (feminist, semite, etc.)

    (3) A -------phobe     (transphobe, islamaphobe, etc.)

    You have no idea why PJ hasn't played arena shows shows in Texas for quite sometime, yet in your woke delusional mind, you assume this to be because Republicans won some elections n Texas, elected are loud mouth Republican Governor and every resident is now guilty by association  and  as a result were being punished and cancelled by Pearl Jam. How dare they play shows there now?  

    Assuming is a motherfucker. And is the dominant trait of a true fascist.

    Here's some food for thought while we're at it. Progressives like yourself with your cancel culture and all the other delusional bullshit (like defund the police, not going so well where I live) have hijacked the Democrat Party as your own and I no longer consider myself a Democrat because of people like you. It'll be a cold day in hell that I become a registered Republican. But when it comes down to a choice between a woke progressive Democrat vs. a Republican in any and all future elections that I'm able to take part in, Republican all the way. Just wanted you know that. I aint the only one thinking like these days either, and I say this as a 28 year proud member of the Philadelphia Democratic City Committee in Philadelphia, PA.

    And if it's Biden v. Trump again ? Christ I hope not, Biden sold his soul to the progressives and ain't there mentally anymore and Trump, is same as ever asshole Trump and all the bullshit that comes with asshole Trump. But the ultra progressive woke agenda that takes priority over common fucking sense and has hijacked the Democrat Party will force me to vote for Trump. Hell, maybe I'll even move to Texas, seems to be PJ's new home base lol.


    Define "woke."
    as stated several times before:

    "AnYtHiNg I dOn'T lIkE iS wOkE!!!"

    like my asshole neighbor revving his engine all morning. that shit is woke.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,819
    Hobbes said:
    ikiT said:
    I moved this outta the Tour Announcement thread..."Ok. Whatever, man. This is a thread for the tour. I’m seeing 4 shows I can drive to so I’m happy and done discussing politics. Have a good day." 

    Simple question...what's the thinking behind the FOUR dates in Greg Abbott's TEXAS on this minitour (AKA Florida's cousin)? 
    I'm old enough to remember when social issues mattered to the band more than social media.

    PJ should never reward fascists.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw

    https://youtu.be/9fR2r8Qlyyk

    Ya better than this.
    People like you are the true fascists. Calling everything and everyone that might not agree with every progressive leaning topic a fascist.

    LOL. 

    The fact that you believe PJ is playing four concerts in Texas to "reward the fascists" is hilarious, yet sad, at the same time. 

    I almost feel sorry for you , delusional with this crazy idea, that Pearl Jam fans "that can drive to the show" don't want to discuss politics with you and are also rewarding the fascists and must be called out by you.

    They don't want to discuss politics with you because it doesn't consume their lives, politics doesn't make up 95% of their posts on an online forum for a fan club of a band they happen to like, and they sure as fuck don't want to get accused of being called a fascist (or a racist, ot a homophobe, or a transphobe, islamaphobe, or whatever other "phobe" your ultra progressive woke mind can come up with and use as a weapon in the hopes of silencing any opposing opinions and close the door on any discussion),  they just want to go see a concert is all.

    If you were a true fan of this band, you would be happy for them as the other 99.5% of the members of this forum are. But you make several posts about this in different threads, then decided it deserves it's very own thread and then cry about it being moved to it's proper place on the forum because you know 90% of the member won't see it. You wear your social justice warrior badge well and want everyone to know it, don't you lol ?

    Pearl Jam has always been a left leaning band. I am a registered Democrat and my beliefs also lean to the left. Do I agree with every stance Pearl Jam has ever taken? For the most part, yes, but not always. And guess what ? Opinions change all the time. Maybe PJ is playing Texas to change some minds, or maybe, just maybe, while the hope of changing peoples mind is still their in their heads, they're just playing Texas because that area of the country hasn't had arena shows in a while, and maybe Ed can mention the abortion issues at some shows down there while they're at it. 

    Win, win, right?

    Nah, not for people like you. Scream and yell like fucking babies and assume all kinds of shit about people when you have no idea what is going thru their minds at any given time and make sure to call them at least one of the three hail marys out of the progressive playbook for dummies.

    (1) A   -----ist.   (racist, facist, etc.)

    (2) An anti ------   (feminist, semite, etc.)

    (3) A -------phobe     (transphobe, islamaphobe, etc.)

    You have no idea why PJ hasn't played arena shows shows in Texas for quite sometime, yet in your woke delusional mind, you assume this to be because Republicans won some elections n Texas, elected are loud mouth Republican Governor and every resident is now guilty by association  and  as a result were being punished and cancelled by Pearl Jam. How dare they play shows there now?  

    Assuming is a motherfucker. And is the dominant trait of a true fascist.

    Here's some food for thought while we're at it. Progressives like yourself with your cancel culture and all the other delusional bullshit (like defund the police, not going so well where I live) have hijacked the Democrat Party as your own and I no longer consider myself a Democrat because of people like you. It'll be a cold day in hell that I become a registered Republican. But when it comes down to a choice between a woke progressive Democrat vs. a Republican in any and all future elections that I'm able to take part in, Republican all the way. Just wanted you know that. I aint the only one thinking like these days either, and I say this as a 28 year proud member of the Philadelphia Democratic City Committee in Philadelphia, PA.

    And if it's Biden v. Trump again ? Christ I hope not, Biden sold his soul to the progressives and ain't there mentally anymore and Trump, is same as ever asshole Trump and all the bullshit that comes with asshole Trump. But the ultra progressive woke agenda that takes priority over common fucking sense and has hijacked the Democrat Party will force me to vote for Trump. Hell, maybe I'll even move to Texas, seems to be PJ's new home base lol.


    Define "woke."
    as stated several times before:

    "AnYtHiNg I dOn'T lIkE iS wOkE!!!"

    like my asshole neighbor revving his engine all morning. that shit is woke.
    https://youtu.be/adPXDTvADD0
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    ikiT said:
    I moved this outta the Tour Announcement thread..."Ok. Whatever, man. This is a thread for the tour. I’m seeing 4 shows I can drive to so I’m happy and done discussing politics. Have a good day." 

    Simple question...what's the thinking behind the FOUR dates in Greg Abbott's TEXAS on this minitour (AKA Florida's cousin)? 
    I'm old enough to remember when social issues mattered to the band more than social media.

    PJ should never reward fascists.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw

    https://youtu.be/9fR2r8Qlyyk

    Ya better than this.
    People like you are the true fascists. Calling everything and everyone that might not agree with every progressive leaning topic a fascist.

    LOL. 

    The fact that you believe PJ is playing four concerts in Texas to "reward the fascists" is hilarious, yet sad, at the same time. 

    I almost feel sorry for you , delusional with this crazy idea, that Pearl Jam fans "that can drive to the show" don't want to discuss politics with you and are also rewarding the fascists and must be called out by you.

    They don't want to discuss politics with you because it doesn't consume their lives, politics doesn't make up 95% of their posts on an online forum for a fan club of a band they happen to like, and they sure as fuck don't want to get accused of being called a fascist (or a racist, ot a homophobe, or a transphobe, islamaphobe, or whatever other "phobe" your ultra progressive woke mind can come up with and use as a weapon in the hopes of silencing any opposing opinions and close the door on any discussion),  they just want to go see a concert is all.

    If you were a true fan of this band, you would be happy for them as the other 99.5% of the members of this forum are. But you make several posts about this in different threads, then decided it deserves it's very own thread and then cry about it being moved to it's proper place on the forum because you know 90% of the member won't see it. You wear your social justice warrior badge well and want everyone to know it, don't you lol ?

    Pearl Jam has always been a left leaning band. I am a registered Democrat and my beliefs also lean to the left. Do I agree with every stance Pearl Jam has ever taken? For the most part, yes, but not always. And guess what ? Opinions change all the time. Maybe PJ is playing Texas to change some minds, or maybe, just maybe, while the hope of changing peoples mind is still their in their heads, they're just playing Texas because that area of the country hasn't had arena shows in a while, and maybe Ed can mention the abortion issues at some shows down there while they're at it. 

    Win, win, right?

    Nah, not for people like you. Scream and yell like fucking babies and assume all kinds of shit about people when you have no idea what is going thru their minds at any given time and make sure to call them at least one of the three hail marys out of the progressive playbook for dummies.

    (1) A   -----ist.   (racist, facist, etc.)

    (2) An anti ------   (feminist, semite, etc.)

    (3) A -------phobe     (transphobe, islamaphobe, etc.)

    You have no idea why PJ hasn't played arena shows shows in Texas for quite sometime, yet in your woke delusional mind, you assume this to be because Republicans won some elections n Texas, elected are loud mouth Republican Governor and every resident is now guilty by association  and  as a result were being punished and cancelled by Pearl Jam. How dare they play shows there now?  

    Assuming is a motherfucker. And is the dominant trait of a true fascist.

    Here's some food for thought while we're at it. Progressives like yourself with your cancel culture and all the other delusional bullshit (like defund the police, not going so well where I live) have hijacked the Democrat Party as your own and I no longer consider myself a Democrat because of people like you. It'll be a cold day in hell that I become a registered Republican. But when it comes down to a choice between a woke progressive Democrat vs. a Republican in any and all future elections that I'm able to take part in, Republican all the way. Just wanted you know that. I aint the only one thinking like these days either, and I say this as a 28 year proud member of the Philadelphia Democratic City Committee in Philadelphia, PA.

    And if it's Biden v. Trump again ? Christ I hope not, Biden sold his soul to the progressives and ain't there mentally anymore and Trump, is same as ever asshole Trump and all the bullshit that comes with asshole Trump. But the ultra progressive woke agenda that takes priority over common fucking sense and has hijacked the Democrat Party will force me to vote for Trump. Hell, maybe I'll even move to Texas, seems to be PJ's new home base lol.


    If you think Biden is a progressive, then you’ll be voting republican the rest of your life. 
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    I’m not getting into anyone’s fight and not taking sides, just want to tell a story. 

    Saw EV at Pilgrimage in 2017.  Kaepernick was in the news for kneeling.  Tennessee is well..Tennessee.  I was surprised he played there but then he came out and knelt on the stage for a bit.  There wasn’t many of us clapping but I’m pretty sure he didn’t give a crap.  He said what he had to say without saying a word.  



  • gotthebottlegotthebottle San Diego Posts: 2,917
    New mall shooting today in Texas... no way I'll go to shows here
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,288
    New mall shooting today in Texas... no way I'll go to shows here

    No kidding, I don't blame you.  Mass shooting happen everywhere these days (there was one just this morning at my alma mater, The University of California at Chico), but especially in place likes Texas that allow open carry.  It's like they are bating people to shoot 'em up.  Not a good scene.
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  • gotthebottlegotthebottle San Diego Posts: 2,917
    brianlux said:
    New mall shooting today in Texas... no way I'll go to shows here

    No kidding, I don't blame you.  Mass shooting happen everywhere these days (there was one just this morning at my alma mater, The University of California at Chico), but especially in place likes Texas that allow open carry.  It's like they are bating people to shoot 'em up.  Not a good scene.
    The Chico shooting was at a party, right? 
    Where were the "good guys with guns" to prevent this? I know the cop eventually took him down but too late for those killed.... and of course Texas will say "mental health"... but some are just plain evil... not mentally ill. 

  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,288
    brianlux said:
    New mall shooting today in Texas... no way I'll go to shows here

    No kidding, I don't blame you.  Mass shooting happen everywhere these days (there was one just this morning at my alma mater, The University of California at Chico), but especially in place likes Texas that allow open carry.  It's like they are bating people to shoot 'em up.  Not a good scene.
    The Chico shooting was at a party, right? 
    Where were the "good guys with guns" to prevent this? I know the cop eventually took him down but too late for those killed.... and of course Texas will say "mental health"... but some are just plain evil... not mentally ill. 


    Yeah, looks like it was at a party.  The latest I've heard is that as of about an hour ago, the suspect in the shooting is still at large.  A family member of mine is scheduled to be in Chico tomorrow and I am not at all thrilled about that, but I do think the incident is isolated enough so as to not be an issue.

    As for the mental illness excuse, I generally don't buy it.  It''s too easy to say, "Oh, that guy was crazy.  He didn't know what he was doing."  Besides, I think the laws in states that allow open carry are just as crazy if not more.  I can't take people seriously who think letting almost anyone who wants to be able to run around with a gun like that's going to stop the killing.  It's a vicious cycle- people with guns, shootings, fear, more people with guns, more shootings, more fear, more people with guns...  It just gets worse and worse.  Perfect example of crazy.
    "Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
    -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"

    "Try to not spook the horse."
    -Neil Young













  • gotthebottlegotthebottle San Diego Posts: 2,917
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    New mall shooting today in Texas... no way I'll go to shows here

    No kidding, I don't blame you.  Mass shooting happen everywhere these days (there was one just this morning at my alma mater, The University of California at Chico), but especially in place likes Texas that allow open carry.  It's like they are bating people to shoot 'em up.  Not a good scene.
    The Chico shooting was at a party, right? 
    Where were the "good guys with guns" to prevent this? I know the cop eventually took him down but too late for those killed.... and of course Texas will say "mental health"... but some are just plain evil... not mentally ill. 


    Yeah, looks like it was at a party.  The latest I've heard is that as of about an hour ago, the suspect in the shooting is still at large.  A family member of mine is scheduled to be in Chico tomorrow and I am not at all thrilled about that, but I do think the incident is isolated enough so as to not be an issue.

    As for the mental illness excuse, I generally don't buy it.  It''s too easy to say, "Oh, that guy was crazy.  He didn't know what he was doing."  Besides, I think the laws in states that allow open carry are just as crazy if not more.  I can't take people seriously who think letting almost anyone who wants to be able to run around with a gun like that's going to stop the killing.  It's a vicious cycle- people with guns, shootings, fear, more people with guns, more shootings, more fear, more people with guns...  It just gets worse and worse.  Perfect example of crazy.
    1000% agree...
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,169
    edited May 2023
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    New mall shooting today in Texas... no way I'll go to shows here

    No kidding, I don't blame you.  Mass shooting happen everywhere these days (there was one just this morning at my alma mater, The University of California at Chico), but especially in place likes Texas that allow open carry.  It's like they are bating people to shoot 'em up.  Not a good scene.
    The Chico shooting was at a party, right? 
    Where were the "good guys with guns" to prevent this? I know the cop eventually took him down but too late for those killed.... and of course Texas will say "mental health"... but some are just plain evil... not mentally ill. 


    Yeah, looks like it was at a party.  The latest I've heard is that as of about an hour ago, the suspect in the shooting is still at large.  A family member of mine is scheduled to be in Chico tomorrow and I am not at all thrilled about that, but I do think the incident is isolated enough so as to not be an issue.

    As for the mental illness excuse, I generally don't buy it.  It''s too easy to say, "Oh, that guy was crazy.  He didn't know what he was doing."  Besides, I think the laws in states that allow open carry are just as crazy if not more.  I can't take people seriously who think letting almost anyone who wants to be able to run around with a gun like that's going to stop the killing.  It's a vicious cycle- people with guns, shootings, fear, more people with guns, more shootings, more fear, more people with guns...  It just gets worse and worse.  Perfect example of crazy.
    1000% agree...
    There seems to be a circular problem leading directly to nothing at all. "Guns are a constitutional right. Guns aren't the problem, mental illness is the problem. Mental illness is really hard, so we can't do anything. Since we can't tackle mental illness, and we have a constitutional right to guns, the problem remains." Aaaand, end scene, re-set the cast and characters, and we'll repeat the script in another few days when another set of children get murdered.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,901
    benjs said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    New mall shooting today in Texas... no way I'll go to shows here

    No kidding, I don't blame you.  Mass shooting happen everywhere these days (there was one just this morning at my alma mater, The University of California at Chico), but especially in place likes Texas that allow open carry.  It's like they are bating people to shoot 'em up.  Not a good scene.
    The Chico shooting was at a party, right? 
    Where were the "good guys with guns" to prevent this? I know the cop eventually took him down but too late for those killed.... and of course Texas will say "mental health"... but some are just plain evil... not mentally ill. 


    Yeah, looks like it was at a party.  The latest I've heard is that as of about an hour ago, the suspect in the shooting is still at large.  A family member of mine is scheduled to be in Chico tomorrow and I am not at all thrilled about that, but I do think the incident is isolated enough so as to not be an issue.

    As for the mental illness excuse, I generally don't buy it.  It''s too easy to say, "Oh, that guy was crazy.  He didn't know what he was doing."  Besides, I think the laws in states that allow open carry are just as crazy if not more.  I can't take people seriously who think letting almost anyone who wants to be able to run around with a gun like that's going to stop the killing.  It's a vicious cycle- people with guns, shootings, fear, more people with guns, more shootings, more fear, more people with guns...  It just gets worse and worse.  Perfect example of crazy.
    1000% agree...
    There seems to be a circular problem leading directly to nothing at all. "Guns are a constitutional right. Guns aren't the problem, mental illness is the problem. Mental illness is really hard, so we can't do anything. Since we can't tackle mental illness, and we have a constitutional right to guns, the problem remains." Aaaand, end scene, re-set the cast and characters, and we'll repeat the script in another few days when another set of children get murdered.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    New mall shooting today in Texas... no way I'll go to shows here
    you'll be fine. just bring your guns. because its your raaaagghhts.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    Not just Texas…


    "The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
     


  • lindamarie73lindamarie73 Posts: 449
    Hobbes said:
    ikiT said:
    I moved this outta the Tour Announcement thread..."Ok. Whatever, man. This is a thread for the tour. I’m seeing 4 shows I can drive to so I’m happy and done discussing politics. Have a good day." 

    Simple question...what's the thinking behind the FOUR dates in Greg Abbott's TEXAS on this minitour (AKA Florida's cousin)? 
    I'm old enough to remember when social issues mattered to the band more than social media.

    PJ should never reward fascists.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw

    https://youtu.be/9fR2r8Qlyyk

    Ya better than this.
    People like you are the true fascists. Calling everything and everyone that might not agree with every progressive leaning topic a fascist.

    LOL. 

    The fact that you believe PJ is playing four concerts in Texas to "reward the fascists" is hilarious, yet sad, at the same time. 

    I almost feel sorry for you , delusional with this crazy idea, that Pearl Jam fans "that can drive to the show" don't want to discuss politics with you and are also rewarding the fascists and must be called out by you.

    They don't want to discuss politics with you because it doesn't consume their lives, politics doesn't make up 95% of their posts on an online forum for a fan club of a band they happen to like, and they sure as fuck don't want to get accused of being called a fascist (or a racist, ot a homophobe, or a transphobe, islamaphobe, or whatever other "phobe" your ultra progressive woke mind can come up with and use as a weapon in the hopes of silencing any opposing opinions and close the door on any discussion),  they just want to go see a concert is all.

    If you were a true fan of this band, you would be happy for them as the other 99.5% of the members of this forum are. But you make several posts about this in different threads, then decided it deserves it's very own thread and then cry about it being moved to it's proper place on the forum because you know 90% of the member won't see it. You wear your social justice warrior badge well and want everyone to know it, don't you lol ?

    Pearl Jam has always been a left leaning band. I am a registered Democrat and my beliefs also lean to the left. Do I agree with every stance Pearl Jam has ever taken? For the most part, yes, but not always. And guess what ? Opinions change all the time. Maybe PJ is playing Texas to change some minds, or maybe, just maybe, while the hope of changing peoples mind is still their in their heads, they're just playing Texas because that area of the country hasn't had arena shows in a while, and maybe Ed can mention the abortion issues at some shows down there while they're at it. 

    Win, win, right?

    Nah, not for people like you. Scream and yell like fucking babies and assume all kinds of shit about people when you have no idea what is going thru their minds at any given time and make sure to call them at least one of the three hail marys out of the progressive playbook for dummies.

    (1) A   -----ist.   (racist, facist, etc.)

    (2) An anti ------   (feminist, semite, etc.)

    (3) A -------phobe     (transphobe, islamaphobe, etc.)

    You have no idea why PJ hasn't played arena shows shows in Texas for quite sometime, yet in your woke delusional mind, you assume this to be because Republicans won some elections n Texas, elected are loud mouth Republican Governor and every resident is now guilty by association  and  as a result were being punished and cancelled by Pearl Jam. How dare they play shows there now?  

    Assuming is a motherfucker. And is the dominant trait of a true fascist.

    Here's some food for thought while we're at it. Progressives like yourself with your cancel culture and all the other delusional bullshit (like defund the police, not going so well where I live) have hijacked the Democrat Party as your own and I no longer consider myself a Democrat because of people like you. It'll be a cold day in hell that I become a registered Republican. But when it comes down to a choice between a woke progressive Democrat vs. a Republican in any and all future elections that I'm able to take part in, Republican all the way. Just wanted you know that. I aint the only one thinking like these days either, and I say this as a 28 year proud member of the Philadelphia Democratic City Committee in Philadelphia, PA.

    And if it's Biden v. Trump again ? Christ I hope not, Biden sold his soul to the progressives and ain't there mentally anymore and Trump, is same as ever asshole Trump and all the bullshit that comes with asshole Trump. But the ultra progressive woke agenda that takes priority over common fucking sense and has hijacked the Democrat Party will force me to vote for Trump. Hell, maybe I'll even move to Texas, seems to be PJ's new home base lol.


    Define "woke."
    Here is a accurate start….
      woke

    /wok/ informal.US

    (adj.) A state of awareness only achieved by those dumb enough to find injustice in everything except their own behavior.

  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,237
    theres that fine aloha spirit
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,317
    Hobbes said:
    ikiT said:
    I moved this outta the Tour Announcement thread..."Ok. Whatever, man. This is a thread for the tour. I’m seeing 4 shows I can drive to so I’m happy and done discussing politics. Have a good day." 

    Simple question...what's the thinking behind the FOUR dates in Greg Abbott's TEXAS on this minitour (AKA Florida's cousin)? 
    I'm old enough to remember when social issues mattered to the band more than social media.

    PJ should never reward fascists.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw

    https://youtu.be/9fR2r8Qlyyk

    Ya better than this.
    People like you are the true fascists. Calling everything and everyone that might not agree with every progressive leaning topic a fascist.

    LOL. 

    The fact that you believe PJ is playing four concerts in Texas to "reward the fascists" is hilarious, yet sad, at the same time. 

    I almost feel sorry for you , delusional with this crazy idea, that Pearl Jam fans "that can drive to the show" don't want to discuss politics with you and are also rewarding the fascists and must be called out by you.

    They don't want to discuss politics with you because it doesn't consume their lives, politics doesn't make up 95% of their posts on an online forum for a fan club of a band they happen to like, and they sure as fuck don't want to get accused of being called a fascist (or a racist, ot a homophobe, or a transphobe, islamaphobe, or whatever other "phobe" your ultra progressive woke mind can come up with and use as a weapon in the hopes of silencing any opposing opinions and close the door on any discussion),  they just want to go see a concert is all.

    If you were a true fan of this band, you would be happy for them as the other 99.5% of the members of this forum are. But you make several posts about this in different threads, then decided it deserves it's very own thread and then cry about it being moved to it's proper place on the forum because you know 90% of the member won't see it. You wear your social justice warrior badge well and want everyone to know it, don't you lol ?

    Pearl Jam has always been a left leaning band. I am a registered Democrat and my beliefs also lean to the left. Do I agree with every stance Pearl Jam has ever taken? For the most part, yes, but not always. And guess what ? Opinions change all the time. Maybe PJ is playing Texas to change some minds, or maybe, just maybe, while the hope of changing peoples mind is still their in their heads, they're just playing Texas because that area of the country hasn't had arena shows in a while, and maybe Ed can mention the abortion issues at some shows down there while they're at it. 

    Win, win, right?

    Nah, not for people like you. Scream and yell like fucking babies and assume all kinds of shit about people when you have no idea what is going thru their minds at any given time and make sure to call them at least one of the three hail marys out of the progressive playbook for dummies.

    (1) A   -----ist.   (racist, facist, etc.)

    (2) An anti ------   (feminist, semite, etc.)

    (3) A -------phobe     (transphobe, islamaphobe, etc.)

    You have no idea why PJ hasn't played arena shows shows in Texas for quite sometime, yet in your woke delusional mind, you assume this to be because Republicans won some elections n Texas, elected are loud mouth Republican Governor and every resident is now guilty by association  and  as a result were being punished and cancelled by Pearl Jam. How dare they play shows there now?  

    Assuming is a motherfucker. And is the dominant trait of a true fascist.

    Here's some food for thought while we're at it. Progressives like yourself with your cancel culture and all the other delusional bullshit (like defund the police, not going so well where I live) have hijacked the Democrat Party as your own and I no longer consider myself a Democrat because of people like you. It'll be a cold day in hell that I become a registered Republican. But when it comes down to a choice between a woke progressive Democrat vs. a Republican in any and all future elections that I'm able to take part in, Republican all the way. Just wanted you know that. I aint the only one thinking like these days either, and I say this as a 28 year proud member of the Philadelphia Democratic City Committee in Philadelphia, PA.

    And if it's Biden v. Trump again ? Christ I hope not, Biden sold his soul to the progressives and ain't there mentally anymore and Trump, is same as ever asshole Trump and all the bullshit that comes with asshole Trump. But the ultra progressive woke agenda that takes priority over common fucking sense and has hijacked the Democrat Party will force me to vote for Trump. Hell, maybe I'll even move to Texas, seems to be PJ's new home base lol.


    Define "woke."
    Here is a accurate start….
      woke

    /wok/ informal.US

    (adj.) A state of awareness only achieved by those dumb enough to find injustice in everything except their own behavior.

    Everything? Like the size of the curl or break? Too many Mai Tais? Or those things like discrimination based on racial or sexual orientation/preference, sex or sexual identity, race or national origin, firearm fetish or environmental concern? Proud to be woke and not a supremacist as my behaviour is not injust.

    BOO! Be afraid, very, very afraid. Of the “other.”
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,819
    edited May 2023
    Hobbes said:
    ikiT said:
    I moved this outta the Tour Announcement thread..."Ok. Whatever, man. This is a thread for the tour. I’m seeing 4 shows I can drive to so I’m happy and done discussing politics. Have a good day." 

    Simple question...what's the thinking behind the FOUR dates in Greg Abbott's TEXAS on this minitour (AKA Florida's cousin)? 
    I'm old enough to remember when social issues mattered to the band more than social media.

    PJ should never reward fascists.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw

    https://youtu.be/9fR2r8Qlyyk

    Ya better than this.
    People like you are the true fascists. Calling everything and everyone that might not agree with every progressive leaning topic a fascist.

    LOL. 

    The fact that you believe PJ is playing four concerts in Texas to "reward the fascists" is hilarious, yet sad, at the same time. 

    I almost feel sorry for you , delusional with this crazy idea, that Pearl Jam fans "that can drive to the show" don't want to discuss politics with you and are also rewarding the fascists and must be called out by you.

    They don't want to discuss politics with you because it doesn't consume their lives, politics doesn't make up 95% of their posts on an online forum for a fan club of a band they happen to like, and they sure as fuck don't want to get accused of being called a fascist (or a racist, ot a homophobe, or a transphobe, islamaphobe, or whatever other "phobe" your ultra progressive woke mind can come up with and use as a weapon in the hopes of silencing any opposing opinions and close the door on any discussion),  they just want to go see a concert is all.

    If you were a true fan of this band, you would be happy for them as the other 99.5% of the members of this forum are. But you make several posts about this in different threads, then decided it deserves it's very own thread and then cry about it being moved to it's proper place on the forum because you know 90% of the member won't see it. You wear your social justice warrior badge well and want everyone to know it, don't you lol ?

    Pearl Jam has always been a left leaning band. I am a registered Democrat and my beliefs also lean to the left. Do I agree with every stance Pearl Jam has ever taken? For the most part, yes, but not always. And guess what ? Opinions change all the time. Maybe PJ is playing Texas to change some minds, or maybe, just maybe, while the hope of changing peoples mind is still their in their heads, they're just playing Texas because that area of the country hasn't had arena shows in a while, and maybe Ed can mention the abortion issues at some shows down there while they're at it. 

    Win, win, right?

    Nah, not for people like you. Scream and yell like fucking babies and assume all kinds of shit about people when you have no idea what is going thru their minds at any given time and make sure to call them at least one of the three hail marys out of the progressive playbook for dummies.

    (1) A   -----ist.   (racist, facist, etc.)

    (2) An anti ------   (feminist, semite, etc.)

    (3) A -------phobe     (transphobe, islamaphobe, etc.)

    You have no idea why PJ hasn't played arena shows shows in Texas for quite sometime, yet in your woke delusional mind, you assume this to be because Republicans won some elections n Texas, elected are loud mouth Republican Governor and every resident is now guilty by association  and  as a result were being punished and cancelled by Pearl Jam. How dare they play shows there now?  

    Assuming is a motherfucker. And is the dominant trait of a true fascist.

    Here's some food for thought while we're at it. Progressives like yourself with your cancel culture and all the other delusional bullshit (like defund the police, not going so well where I live) have hijacked the Democrat Party as your own and I no longer consider myself a Democrat because of people like you. It'll be a cold day in hell that I become a registered Republican. But when it comes down to a choice between a woke progressive Democrat vs. a Republican in any and all future elections that I'm able to take part in, Republican all the way. Just wanted you know that. I aint the only one thinking like these days either, and I say this as a 28 year proud member of the Philadelphia Democratic City Committee in Philadelphia, PA.

    And if it's Biden v. Trump again ? Christ I hope not, Biden sold his soul to the progressives and ain't there mentally anymore and Trump, is same as ever asshole Trump and all the bullshit that comes with asshole Trump. But the ultra progressive woke agenda that takes priority over common fucking sense and has hijacked the Democrat Party will force me to vote for Trump. Hell, maybe I'll even move to Texas, seems to be PJ's new home base lol.


    Define "woke."
    Here is a accurate start….
      woke

    /wok/ informal.US

    (adj.) A state of awareness only achieved by those dumb enough to find injustice in everything except their own behavior.

    Just so you know the term "woke" is used exclusively by right-wing media as a dogwhistle to wind up their deplorable and uneducated base.
    Along with....
    Antifa
    Benghazi
    BLM
    Drag Queens
    Groomers
    Hillary
    Hunter
    Illegals
    Libs
    Open Borders
    Socialists
    The Jab
    Trans

    Post edited by Bentleyspop on
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,288
    edited May 2023
    I've only heard the word "woke" used once and only once where it worked well:

    When I woke up this morning
    You were on my mind
    And
    You were on my mind

    Here's some good woke for you-


    "Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
    -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"

    "Try to not spook the horse."
    -Neil Young













  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    Hobbes said:
    ikiT said:
    I moved this outta the Tour Announcement thread..."Ok. Whatever, man. This is a thread for the tour. I’m seeing 4 shows I can drive to so I’m happy and done discussing politics. Have a good day." 

    Simple question...what's the thinking behind the FOUR dates in Greg Abbott's TEXAS on this minitour (AKA Florida's cousin)? 
    I'm old enough to remember when social issues mattered to the band more than social media.

    PJ should never reward fascists.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw

    https://youtu.be/9fR2r8Qlyyk

    Ya better than this.
    People like you are the true fascists. Calling everything and everyone that might not agree with every progressive leaning topic a fascist.

    LOL. 

    The fact that you believe PJ is playing four concerts in Texas to "reward the fascists" is hilarious, yet sad, at the same time. 

    I almost feel sorry for you , delusional with this crazy idea, that Pearl Jam fans "that can drive to the show" don't want to discuss politics with you and are also rewarding the fascists and must be called out by you.

    They don't want to discuss politics with you because it doesn't consume their lives, politics doesn't make up 95% of their posts on an online forum for a fan club of a band they happen to like, and they sure as fuck don't want to get accused of being called a fascist (or a racist, ot a homophobe, or a transphobe, islamaphobe, or whatever other "phobe" your ultra progressive woke mind can come up with and use as a weapon in the hopes of silencing any opposing opinions and close the door on any discussion),  they just want to go see a concert is all.

    If you were a true fan of this band, you would be happy for them as the other 99.5% of the members of this forum are. But you make several posts about this in different threads, then decided it deserves it's very own thread and then cry about it being moved to it's proper place on the forum because you know 90% of the member won't see it. You wear your social justice warrior badge well and want everyone to know it, don't you lol ?

    Pearl Jam has always been a left leaning band. I am a registered Democrat and my beliefs also lean to the left. Do I agree with every stance Pearl Jam has ever taken? For the most part, yes, but not always. And guess what ? Opinions change all the time. Maybe PJ is playing Texas to change some minds, or maybe, just maybe, while the hope of changing peoples mind is still their in their heads, they're just playing Texas because that area of the country hasn't had arena shows in a while, and maybe Ed can mention the abortion issues at some shows down there while they're at it. 

    Win, win, right?

    Nah, not for people like you. Scream and yell like fucking babies and assume all kinds of shit about people when you have no idea what is going thru their minds at any given time and make sure to call them at least one of the three hail marys out of the progressive playbook for dummies.

    (1) A   -----ist.   (racist, facist, etc.)

    (2) An anti ------   (feminist, semite, etc.)

    (3) A -------phobe     (transphobe, islamaphobe, etc.)

    You have no idea why PJ hasn't played arena shows shows in Texas for quite sometime, yet in your woke delusional mind, you assume this to be because Republicans won some elections n Texas, elected are loud mouth Republican Governor and every resident is now guilty by association  and  as a result were being punished and cancelled by Pearl Jam. How dare they play shows there now?  

    Assuming is a motherfucker. And is the dominant trait of a true fascist.

    Here's some food for thought while we're at it. Progressives like yourself with your cancel culture and all the other delusional bullshit (like defund the police, not going so well where I live) have hijacked the Democrat Party as your own and I no longer consider myself a Democrat because of people like you. It'll be a cold day in hell that I become a registered Republican. But when it comes down to a choice between a woke progressive Democrat vs. a Republican in any and all future elections that I'm able to take part in, Republican all the way. Just wanted you know that. I aint the only one thinking like these days either, and I say this as a 28 year proud member of the Philadelphia Democratic City Committee in Philadelphia, PA.

    And if it's Biden v. Trump again ? Christ I hope not, Biden sold his soul to the progressives and ain't there mentally anymore and Trump, is same as ever asshole Trump and all the bullshit that comes with asshole Trump. But the ultra progressive woke agenda that takes priority over common fucking sense and has hijacked the Democrat Party will force me to vote for Trump. Hell, maybe I'll even move to Texas, seems to be PJ's new home base lol.


    Define "woke."
    Here is a accurate start….
      woke

    /wok/ informal.US

    (adj.) A state of awareness only achieved by those dumb enough to find injustice in everything except their own behavior.

    Just so you know the term "woke" is used exclusively by right-wing media as a dogwhistle to wind up their deplorable and uneducated base.
    Along with....
    Antifa
    Benghazi
    BLM
    Drag Queens
    Groomers
    Hillary
    Hunter
    Illegals
    Libs
    Open Borders
    Socialists
    The Jab
    Trans

    Interestingly enough, for me, some of this issues started with a real issue that I think needs addressing but of course both sides dig in:

    1) Antifa - it's now the boogieman...but it can;t be denied that there are some bad players out there....it is of course easier to focus on a name rather than the behaviors.  Cause the behaviors are used by groups that support both parties and often more on the far right.
    2) Benghazi - I'm just tired of hearing about it at this point
    3) BLM - there is a real issue with some of the tactics utilized at different points.  I understand how some people get to that point, but it doesn;t make it right.  Also - the real anti-police shit that stemmed from this and the fringe defund the police were awful.
    4) Drag queens/Trans - this one annoys me as it's a distraction from the real issue to discuss...which is transgender surgery on minors.  When you see data on how many young people are identifying as this or that....and how it is fluid for some...it's sad to think we are making kids label themselves earlier and earlier (and yes that is a negative side effect of the liberal agenda) and utilizing drugs/surgery on youth.  I am certain it makes sense for some, but I would hope we would allow professionals to make that call and then parents align to it if <18.
    5) Groomers - again stupid distraction from same issue above. goes further in that it tries to paint LBGT as groomers....but again it's just projection as it's the far right religious bullshit that are the groomers.
    6) Hillary/Hunter - distractions 
    7) Illegals/Open boarders - again a real issue that the liberals have been terrible on...but the conservatives have been just as bad.  No one wants to solve.  It's just an election item to get people to the polls.
    8) Socialists - broad label....not sure who it applies to more now...
    9) The Jab - again, was a public health issue that should have brought us together that instead was used to divide.


    So - a lot of distraction items in there to keep from solving the real ones.  But there are some real ones in there where, IMO, the "woke" agenda has gone off the rails.

    hippiemom = goodness
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,317
    From WaPo:

    The shooting in Allen is the third mass killing recorded in Texas so far this year. In 2022, Texas recorded six mass killings by gun — the most of any single state.
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    Hobbes said:
    ikiT said:
    I moved this outta the Tour Announcement thread..."Ok. Whatever, man. This is a thread for the tour. I’m seeing 4 shows I can drive to so I’m happy and done discussing politics. Have a good day." 

    Simple question...what's the thinking behind the FOUR dates in Greg Abbott's TEXAS on this minitour (AKA Florida's cousin)? 
    I'm old enough to remember when social issues mattered to the band more than social media.

    PJ should never reward fascists.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw

    https://youtu.be/9fR2r8Qlyyk

    Ya better than this.
    People like you are the true fascists. Calling everything and everyone that might not agree with every progressive leaning topic a fascist.

    LOL. 

    The fact that you believe PJ is playing four concerts in Texas to "reward the fascists" is hilarious, yet sad, at the same time. 

    I almost feel sorry for you , delusional with this crazy idea, that Pearl Jam fans "that can drive to the show" don't want to discuss politics with you and are also rewarding the fascists and must be called out by you.

    They don't want to discuss politics with you because it doesn't consume their lives, politics doesn't make up 95% of their posts on an online forum for a fan club of a band they happen to like, and they sure as fuck don't want to get accused of being called a fascist (or a racist, ot a homophobe, or a transphobe, islamaphobe, or whatever other "phobe" your ultra progressive woke mind can come up with and use as a weapon in the hopes of silencing any opposing opinions and close the door on any discussion),  they just want to go see a concert is all.

    If you were a true fan of this band, you would be happy for them as the other 99.5% of the members of this forum are. But you make several posts about this in different threads, then decided it deserves it's very own thread and then cry about it being moved to it's proper place on the forum because you know 90% of the member won't see it. You wear your social justice warrior badge well and want everyone to know it, don't you lol ?

    Pearl Jam has always been a left leaning band. I am a registered Democrat and my beliefs also lean to the left. Do I agree with every stance Pearl Jam has ever taken? For the most part, yes, but not always. And guess what ? Opinions change all the time. Maybe PJ is playing Texas to change some minds, or maybe, just maybe, while the hope of changing peoples mind is still their in their heads, they're just playing Texas because that area of the country hasn't had arena shows in a while, and maybe Ed can mention the abortion issues at some shows down there while they're at it. 

    Win, win, right?

    Nah, not for people like you. Scream and yell like fucking babies and assume all kinds of shit about people when you have no idea what is going thru their minds at any given time and make sure to call them at least one of the three hail marys out of the progressive playbook for dummies.

    (1) A   -----ist.   (racist, facist, etc.)

    (2) An anti ------   (feminist, semite, etc.)

    (3) A -------phobe     (transphobe, islamaphobe, etc.)

    You have no idea why PJ hasn't played arena shows shows in Texas for quite sometime, yet in your woke delusional mind, you assume this to be because Republicans won some elections n Texas, elected are loud mouth Republican Governor and every resident is now guilty by association  and  as a result were being punished and cancelled by Pearl Jam. How dare they play shows there now?  

    Assuming is a motherfucker. And is the dominant trait of a true fascist.

    Here's some food for thought while we're at it. Progressives like yourself with your cancel culture and all the other delusional bullshit (like defund the police, not going so well where I live) have hijacked the Democrat Party as your own and I no longer consider myself a Democrat because of people like you. It'll be a cold day in hell that I become a registered Republican. But when it comes down to a choice between a woke progressive Democrat vs. a Republican in any and all future elections that I'm able to take part in, Republican all the way. Just wanted you know that. I aint the only one thinking like these days either, and I say this as a 28 year proud member of the Philadelphia Democratic City Committee in Philadelphia, PA.

    And if it's Biden v. Trump again ? Christ I hope not, Biden sold his soul to the progressives and ain't there mentally anymore and Trump, is same as ever asshole Trump and all the bullshit that comes with asshole Trump. But the ultra progressive woke agenda that takes priority over common fucking sense and has hijacked the Democrat Party will force me to vote for Trump. Hell, maybe I'll even move to Texas, seems to be PJ's new home base lol.


    Define "woke."
    Here is a accurate start….
      woke

    /wok/ informal.US

    (adj.) A state of awareness only achieved by those dumb enough to find injustice in everything except their own behavior.

    Just so you know the term "woke" is used exclusively by right-wing media as a dogwhistle to wind up their deplorable and uneducated base.
    Along with....
    Antifa
    Benghazi
    BLM
    Drag Queens
    Groomers
    Hillary
    Hunter
    Illegals
    Libs
    Open Borders
    Socialists
    The Jab
    Trans

    Interestingly enough, for me, some of this issues started with a real issue that I think needs addressing but of course both sides dig in:

    1) Antifa - it's now the boogieman...but it can;t be denied that there are some bad players out there....it is of course easier to focus on a name rather than the behaviors.  Cause the behaviors are used by groups that support both parties and often more on the far right.
    2) Benghazi - I'm just tired of hearing about it at this point
    3) BLM - there is a real issue with some of the tactics utilized at different points.  I understand how some people get to that point, but it doesn;t make it right.  Also - the real anti-police shit that stemmed from this and the fringe defund the police were awful.
    4) Drag queens/Trans - this one annoys me as it's a distraction from the real issue to discuss...which is transgender surgery on minors.  When you see data on how many young people are identifying as this or that....and how it is fluid for some...it's sad to think we are making kids label themselves earlier and earlier (and yes that is a negative side effect of the liberal agenda) and utilizing drugs/surgery on youth.  I am certain it makes sense for some, but I would hope we would allow professionals to make that call and then parents align to it if <18.
    5) Groomers - again stupid distraction from same issue above. goes further in that it tries to paint LBGT as groomers....but again it's just projection as it's the far right religious bullshit that are the groomers.
    6) Hillary/Hunter - distractions 
    7) Illegals/Open boarders - again a real issue that the liberals have been terrible on...but the conservatives have been just as bad.  No one wants to solve.  It's just an election item to get people to the polls.
    8) Socialists - broad label....not sure who it applies to more now...
    9) The Jab - again, was a public health issue that should have brought us together that instead was used to divide.


    So - a lot of distraction items in there to keep from solving the real ones.  But there are some real ones in there where, IMO, the "woke" agenda has gone off the rails.

    I don’t think that we’re making kids label themselves. Or if we are, it’s less than we used to. The younger generations have fewer hang ups about gender roles and I think they’re much more at ease about androgeny. This creates an atmosphere or greater acceptance. 
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    Hobbes said:
    ikiT said:
    I moved this outta the Tour Announcement thread..."Ok. Whatever, man. This is a thread for the tour. I’m seeing 4 shows I can drive to so I’m happy and done discussing politics. Have a good day." 

    Simple question...what's the thinking behind the FOUR dates in Greg Abbott's TEXAS on this minitour (AKA Florida's cousin)? 
    I'm old enough to remember when social issues mattered to the band more than social media.

    PJ should never reward fascists.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw

    https://youtu.be/9fR2r8Qlyyk

    Ya better than this.
    People like you are the true fascists. Calling everything and everyone that might not agree with every progressive leaning topic a fascist.

    LOL. 

    The fact that you believe PJ is playing four concerts in Texas to "reward the fascists" is hilarious, yet sad, at the same time. 

    I almost feel sorry for you , delusional with this crazy idea, that Pearl Jam fans "that can drive to the show" don't want to discuss politics with you and are also rewarding the fascists and must be called out by you.

    They don't want to discuss politics with you because it doesn't consume their lives, politics doesn't make up 95% of their posts on an online forum for a fan club of a band they happen to like, and they sure as fuck don't want to get accused of being called a fascist (or a racist, ot a homophobe, or a transphobe, islamaphobe, or whatever other "phobe" your ultra progressive woke mind can come up with and use as a weapon in the hopes of silencing any opposing opinions and close the door on any discussion),  they just want to go see a concert is all.

    If you were a true fan of this band, you would be happy for them as the other 99.5% of the members of this forum are. But you make several posts about this in different threads, then decided it deserves it's very own thread and then cry about it being moved to it's proper place on the forum because you know 90% of the member won't see it. You wear your social justice warrior badge well and want everyone to know it, don't you lol ?

    Pearl Jam has always been a left leaning band. I am a registered Democrat and my beliefs also lean to the left. Do I agree with every stance Pearl Jam has ever taken? For the most part, yes, but not always. And guess what ? Opinions change all the time. Maybe PJ is playing Texas to change some minds, or maybe, just maybe, while the hope of changing peoples mind is still their in their heads, they're just playing Texas because that area of the country hasn't had arena shows in a while, and maybe Ed can mention the abortion issues at some shows down there while they're at it. 

    Win, win, right?

    Nah, not for people like you. Scream and yell like fucking babies and assume all kinds of shit about people when you have no idea what is going thru their minds at any given time and make sure to call them at least one of the three hail marys out of the progressive playbook for dummies.

    (1) A   -----ist.   (racist, facist, etc.)

    (2) An anti ------   (feminist, semite, etc.)

    (3) A -------phobe     (transphobe, islamaphobe, etc.)

    You have no idea why PJ hasn't played arena shows shows in Texas for quite sometime, yet in your woke delusional mind, you assume this to be because Republicans won some elections n Texas, elected are loud mouth Republican Governor and every resident is now guilty by association  and  as a result were being punished and cancelled by Pearl Jam. How dare they play shows there now?  

    Assuming is a motherfucker. And is the dominant trait of a true fascist.

    Here's some food for thought while we're at it. Progressives like yourself with your cancel culture and all the other delusional bullshit (like defund the police, not going so well where I live) have hijacked the Democrat Party as your own and I no longer consider myself a Democrat because of people like you. It'll be a cold day in hell that I become a registered Republican. But when it comes down to a choice between a woke progressive Democrat vs. a Republican in any and all future elections that I'm able to take part in, Republican all the way. Just wanted you know that. I aint the only one thinking like these days either, and I say this as a 28 year proud member of the Philadelphia Democratic City Committee in Philadelphia, PA.

    And if it's Biden v. Trump again ? Christ I hope not, Biden sold his soul to the progressives and ain't there mentally anymore and Trump, is same as ever asshole Trump and all the bullshit that comes with asshole Trump. But the ultra progressive woke agenda that takes priority over common fucking sense and has hijacked the Democrat Party will force me to vote for Trump. Hell, maybe I'll even move to Texas, seems to be PJ's new home base lol.


    Define "woke."
    Here is a accurate start….
      woke

    /wok/ informal.US

    (adj.) A state of awareness only achieved by those dumb enough to find injustice in everything except their own behavior.

    Just so you know the term "woke" is used exclusively by right-wing media as a dogwhistle to wind up their deplorable and uneducated base.
    Along with....
    Antifa
    Benghazi
    BLM
    Drag Queens
    Groomers
    Hillary
    Hunter
    Illegals
    Libs
    Open Borders
    Socialists
    The Jab
    Trans

    Interestingly enough, for me, some of this issues started with a real issue that I think needs addressing but of course both sides dig in:

    1) Antifa - it's now the boogieman...but it can;t be denied that there are some bad players out there....it is of course easier to focus on a name rather than the behaviors.  Cause the behaviors are used by groups that support both parties and often more on the far right.
    2) Benghazi - I'm just tired of hearing about it at this point
    3) BLM - there is a real issue with some of the tactics utilized at different points.  I understand how some people get to that point, but it doesn;t make it right.  Also - the real anti-police shit that stemmed from this and the fringe defund the police were awful.
    4) Drag queens/Trans - this one annoys me as it's a distraction from the real issue to discuss...which is transgender surgery on minors.  When you see data on how many young people are identifying as this or that....and how it is fluid for some...it's sad to think we are making kids label themselves earlier and earlier (and yes that is a negative side effect of the liberal agenda) and utilizing drugs/surgery on youth.  I am certain it makes sense for some, but I would hope we would allow professionals to make that call and then parents align to it if <18.
    5) Groomers - again stupid distraction from same issue above. goes further in that it tries to paint LBGT as groomers....but again it's just projection as it's the far right religious bullshit that are the groomers.
    6) Hillary/Hunter - distractions 
    7) Illegals/Open boarders - again a real issue that the liberals have been terrible on...but the conservatives have been just as bad.  No one wants to solve.  It's just an election item to get people to the polls.
    8) Socialists - broad label....not sure who it applies to more now...
    9) The Jab - again, was a public health issue that should have brought us together that instead was used to divide.


    So - a lot of distraction items in there to keep from solving the real ones.  But there are some real ones in there where, IMO, the "woke" agenda has gone off the rails.

    I don’t think that we’re making kids label themselves. Or if we are, it’s less than we used to. The younger generations have fewer hang ups about gender roles and I think they’re much more at ease about androgeny. This creates an atmosphere or greater acceptance. 
    My sample size is small....but I've been talking with my ultra liberal friend and he has talked about it happening constantly within his daughter's high school.... and kids pressuring other kids to tell them "what they are"...not in a bad way of pressure...not bullying them...but making them label themselves.  I have seen this myself.  

    I was also using a couple of high school newspapers where they specifically asked people these questions and the % of non-hetero was astounding....gender-wise a little less so.  

    I feel there is a sweet spot in this...and most likely will reach equilibrium at a future point once we aren't talking about it so much.  But I do think all the talk has lead to more kids identifying as something other than the "social norm" then is reality.  But I'll have to wait and see.

    I think your last couple of sentence is mostly correct.  But with that acceptance comes the need to label people to show your acceptance.
    hippiemom = goodness
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