The Official 2024 TOUR Thread

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  • brewdog123
    brewdog123 ATL Posts: 685
    yall make it sound like PJ members are day laborers or putting up roofs for a living
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  • Kearn5y
    Kearn5y Ireland Posts: 3,035
    Merkin Baller said:
    Kearn5y said:
    Finally figured it out. They dont play that much shows any more because we are all getting old and just cant take it anymore. 
    It really could be any number of reasons. Jeff's on record as saying he doesn't like touring. Maybe they want to spend time w/ their families, maybe they're bored with the music, maybe they want to sleep in their own bed, maybe they just don't give a f anymore. 

    "The times they are a changing"
    Whatever it is, it started years ago when they were much younger so I dont think age was the issue then but could be now or could be any of the things you listed above. 
    Kearnsy
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,543
    Regardless of the why, the what around touring is what it is. You gotta find other bands. If your happiness is tied too closely to one or a small number of artists and their output, it's a much tougher ride.
  • tdawe
    tdawe Posts: 2,091
    It’s about time we had a discussion about why Pearl Jam doesn’t play more shows and whether or not that’s good or bad. Long overdue. 
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,543
    I see like 50 or 60 shows a year. When Pearl Jam announces a tour it's a bonus.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,812
    Kearn5y said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Kearn5y said:
    Finally figured it out. They dont play that much shows any more because we are all getting old and just cant take it anymore. 
    It really could be any number of reasons. Jeff's on record as saying he doesn't like touring. Maybe they want to spend time w/ their families, maybe they're bored with the music, maybe they want to sleep in their own bed, maybe they just don't give a f anymore. 

    "The times they are a changing"
    Whatever it is, it started years ago when they were much younger so I dont think age was the issue then but could be now or could be any of the things you listed above. 
    Maybe some of them look at where they are financially and or creatively, are content with that, and just don't want to deal w/ the hassle of going out on the road. In the end we really don't know. 

    Let's also not overlook how hard of a time they've had getting things going since the pandemic. They couldn't even complete a 9 date tour last year without getting sick & having to cancel a show. They've kind of been snake bitten these last 4 years. 
  • deb1211
    deb1211 Posts: 2,055
    I am grateful for any shows and that we still have them. They are amazing and I wasted too many years not going. I will spend the rest of their touring lives trying to make up for it. 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,812
    pjl44 said:
    Regardless of the why, the what around touring is what it is. You gotta find other bands. If your happiness is tied too closely to one or a small number of artists and their output, it's a much tougher ride.
    Agreed.
  • tusevun
    tusevun Posts: 252
    As long as the merch train keeps rolling they don't need to tour. 
  • kaw753
    kaw753 Posts: 941
    bootlegger10 said:
    josevolution said:
    Why not Portland Maine or New Hampshire or Vermont shows what’s up with that PJ c’mon be adventurous! You guys feel like elephants always walk the same path by the way I love Elephants! But for reelszzz you have become too predictable on your touring paths! Happy 2024 

    QOTSA 2024 Euro tour:  Nurburg, Neremburg, Leciestershire, A Coruna, Vitoria-Gasteiz, Madrid, Fuengirola, Barcelona, Clisson, St. Gallen, Milan, Vitrolles, Trencin, Ostrava, Transylvania, Vienna, Zagreb, Gothenburg, Oslo, Copenhagen


    Pearl Jam:  Dublin, Manchester, London, Berlin, Barcelona, Madrid, Lisbon

    I haven't even heard of some of these places in Europe (granted they are festivals in most cases on the outskirts) but would be great to have PJ play a tour like QOTSA again.  Never gonna happen and they are in two different orbits.  I get it.

    I was out of town for work four weeks in a row.  Working during the day, working in the hotel at night.  It sucked and was ready to be home, but when I got home I worked just as many hours.  I just can't relate to touring being such a chore.  It frankly isn't in relation to what 95% of the population have to do to make money, but they are in the fortunate position to do what they want.  
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  • HailHailVitalogy
    HailHailVitalogy Posts: 6,016
    Airbnb booked for Seattle, now if only flight prices drop. Seen all 3 shows at the gorge but never in Seattle proper
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,812
    tusevun said:
    As long as the merch train keeps rolling they don't need to tour. 
    I can't help but think they could break up tomorrow, cease all merch sales and any one of them could find other adequate sources of income pretty quickly if they had to. 

    Or maybe not, and they're just lazy money grubbing pricks. I really don't know, but I do know this: if I resented this band as much as some people here seem to, I wouldn't be paying dues every year to be in their fan club. 
  • CantKeepmedown
    CantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 3,119
    Just accept the fact that as a collective band, they tour as much as they want to. They need 5 guys to agree. I don't think it's a situation where one guy is calling the shots like the Foos or DMB (not to say that the Dave's don't take input from the others, but in the end, they are making the decisions).  

    Total speculation, but I think with PJ, it appears that Mike and Matt really enjoy getting out and playing. As someone else said, Jeff has been on record saying he doesn't love going out on tour. Ed and Stone are probably somewhere in the middle. But in the end, all 5 guys need to be in agreement. And that's what we're getting with the tours the last 10 years or so. And ballpark shows will make them the most money in the shortest amount of time. 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,812
    CantKeepmedown said:
    Just accept the fact that as a collective band, they tour as much as they want to. They need 5 guys to agree. I don't think it's a situation where one guy is calling the shots like the Foos or DMB (not to say that the Dave's don't take input from the others, but in the end, they are making the decisions).  

    Total speculation, but I think with PJ, it appears that Mike and Matt really enjoy getting out and playing. As someone else said, Jeff has been on record saying he doesn't love going out on tour. Ed and Stone are probably somewhere in the middle. But in the end, all 5 guys need to be in agreement. And that's what we're getting with the tours the last 10 years or so. And ballpark shows will make them the most money in the shortest amount of time. 
    How pragmatic of you. 

    Well said. 
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,258
    edited January 2024
    CantKeepmedown said:
    Just accept the fact that as a collective band, they tour as much as they want to. They need 5 guys to agree. I don't think it's a situation where one guy is calling the shots like the Foos or DMB (not to say that the Dave's don't take input from the others, but in the end, they are making the decisions).  

    Total speculation, but I think with PJ, it appears that Mike and Matt really enjoy getting out and playing. As someone else said, Jeff has been on record saying he doesn't love going out on tour. Ed and Stone are probably somewhere in the middle. But in the end, all 5 guys need to be in agreement. And that's what we're getting with the tours the last 10 years or so. And ballpark shows will make them the most money in the shortest amount of time. 
    I think you are exactly right.   They slowed down considerably after 2003 and figured out what works for them.  100% not an age issue as it started when they were in their late 30’s and early 40’s.   

    I don’t have any beef with how they operate.   I should cut them some slack when I do get annoyed reading comments about how tough touring is.  I don’t know their home situation and what pressure it may put on their family.   

  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    CantKeepmedown said:
    Just accept the fact that as a collective band, they tour as much as they want to. They need 5 guys to agree. I don't think it's a situation where one guy is calling the shots like the Foos or DMB (not to say that the Dave's don't take input from the others, but in the end, they are making the decisions).  

    Total speculation, but I think with PJ, it appears that Mike and Matt really enjoy getting out and playing. As someone else said, Jeff has been on record saying he doesn't love going out on tour. Ed and Stone are probably somewhere in the middle. But in the end, all 5 guys need to be in agreement. And that's what we're getting with the tours the last 10 years or so. And ballpark shows will make them the most money in the shortest amount of time. 

    :clap:
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  • just_one
    just_one Lisbon Posts: 2,292
    mpedone said:
    CantKeepmedown said:
    Just accept the fact that as a collective band, they tour as much as they want to. They need 5 guys to agree. I don't think it's a situation where one guy is calling the shots like the Foos or DMB (not to say that the Dave's don't take input from the others, but in the end, they are making the decisions).  

    Total speculation, but I think with PJ, it appears that Mike and Matt really enjoy getting out and playing. As someone else said, Jeff has been on record saying he doesn't love going out on tour. Ed and Stone are probably somewhere in the middle. But in the end, all 5 guys need to be in agreement. And that's what we're getting with the tours the last 10 years or so. And ballpark shows will make them the most money in the shortest amount of time. 

    :clap:
    excelent post! i would just add Ed to the Mike and Matt side. He clearly loves to tour or else we wouldnt have solo tours.
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,906
    It's also funny, that even in regards to age, they're nearing the age I would like to be when I retire, but I hope they keep working for decades more :)
  • matt84
    matt84 Posts: 823
    demetrios said:

    AC/DC fans seem to think this is for Pearl Jam, and Pearl Jam fans seem to think it’s an AC/DC announcement.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,812
    just_one said:
    mpedone said:
    CantKeepmedown said:
    Just accept the fact that as a collective band, they tour as much as they want to. They need 5 guys to agree. I don't think it's a situation where one guy is calling the shots like the Foos or DMB (not to say that the Dave's don't take input from the others, but in the end, they are making the decisions).  

    Total speculation, but I think with PJ, it appears that Mike and Matt really enjoy getting out and playing. As someone else said, Jeff has been on record saying he doesn't love going out on tour. Ed and Stone are probably somewhere in the middle. But in the end, all 5 guys need to be in agreement. And that's what we're getting with the tours the last 10 years or so. And ballpark shows will make them the most money in the shortest amount of time. 

    :clap:
    excelent post! i would just add Ed to the Mike and Matt side. He clearly loves to tour or else we wouldnt have solo tours.
    Agreed, I think Ed enjoys getting out on the road, and if I had to guess, I think he'll be at if for years to come in some capacity or another. 
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