The Official 2024 TOUR Thread

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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,345
    pjl44 said:
    on2legs said:
    pjl44 said:
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    Saw this on FB about posters and how poster artists allegedly get paid:

    https://www.webworm.co/p/pearljam?fbclid=IwAR02AT_ofxEpOwSneU_68iiRmnEi13IGqPe7EZ6RER_q6PhAz1U61eePSkw_aem_AfepRKNBwe21CVT_HW3CCh6vl-X1peeAbSdQT65IKNQKdyuWGw78Cdsh1XwcpSHFqlA
    This is pretty interesting. I'm not sure I realized the APs were the only form of compensation. While the writer was reaching out to these other artists he should have asked what flat fee is typical for a band of this stature. I need a little context to know whether it's a good deal or not.
    If the article was more objective, it might have discussed the exposure the artist gets from having a Pearl Jam poster in their portfolio.  There is a value to that exposure and my guess many artists are pumped to have their artwork promoted by the band.  And I’m not sure how the one artist they managed to talk to only made $3,000 after shipping costs.  100 AP’s at $100 each is $10,000.  Where did the other $7,000 go?

    And my biggest take away from the article is… no one is forcing the artist to make the poster.  If the fee structure is not satisfactory then just say no thank you.  
    I'm not a believer in "exposure" as compensation but this might actually be a good deal strictly in terms of dollars. The person quoting 3k is a little suspect because what shipping costs? I always pay shipping as the buyer.

    I'd need to know what someone like Phish or Foo Fighters pay. Or whomever. The artist stands to gross 7-10k on a Pearl Jam AP. That seems pretty good to me but who knows.
    Most bands do a numbered limited edition for their show posters. For a lot of bands about on the same level with PJ, it's usually a run of around 2k posters per show. Sometimes higher, sometimes lower. But there's a reason PJ has never numbered their show posters. They can just keep printing them out like money.
    Just using the most recent Wrigley shows as an example, I'd have to say they sold at least 30,000 posters total for those shows. And that's a conservative estimate. They had multiple merch booths open all day long, for multiple days, with non-stop lines that sometimes lasted as long as 5hrs. I watched truck after truck pull up with stack after stack after stack of posters all day and night. So, say they did only sell 30k posters for those shows. At $40 each, the band made well over a million dollars on posters for those shows, while the people who actually created those posters only made $7-10k. That seems good to you?
    I have no idea if it is or isn't. That's why I want to know what comparable bands pay.
  • If Marlay Park is the venue for Dublin, that's a logistical nightmare, have been looking at accommodations...
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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,345
    Rumor is Pearl Jam's merch team contacting artists for 2024 tour posters, including New Zealand artist Jess Johnson.

    There. On topic.
  • vercemanverceman Posts: 681
    Why can't the band pay the artists $500 AND also themselves sell 100 limited edition posters at their shows for $100 each, where all the money goes to the artist? Win win. 
  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Posts: 8,922
    It’s chilly today and I’m thinking about the warm weather in May and August/Septmeber for the shows.
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  • BrainofBGABrainofBGA Posts: 4,183
    I think the Aussie posters of the past, while ok, have been a littler stereotyped or cliched ie kangaroos, Vegemite, koalas, Ned Kelly…hopefully for the upcoming tour we can get something different. 
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  • gotthebottlegotthebottle Posts: 2,690
    edited January 6
    I think the Aussie posters of the past, while ok, have been a littler stereotyped or cliched ie kangaroos, Vegemite, koalas, Ned Kelly…hopefully for the upcoming tour we can get something different. 
    How about a magpie... in honor of the Premiership winners!! 
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  • D-RodD-Rod Posts: 1,842
    100 Pacer said:
    It’s chilly today and I’m thinking about the warm weather in May and August/Septmeber for the shows.
    The hockey rink was freezing this afternoon in Waterloo.   The hour drive was worth it as the Lawfield Thunder won 5-1.  
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  • If Marlay Park is the venue for Dublin, that's a logistical nightmare, have been looking at accommodations...
    All rumored shows are a nightmare. Seattle during Memorial Day week, Vegas during the big festival, Europe in the summer during euro cup, Wrigley and MSG during Labor Day weekend….
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  • just_onejust_one Posts: 2,131
    If Marlay Park is the venue for Dublin, that's a logistical nightmare, have been looking at accommodations...
    We gave up on doing Dublin because of the accomodation prices
  • BrainofBGABrainofBGA Posts: 4,183
    I think the Aussie posters of the past, while ok, have been a littler stereotyped or cliched ie kangaroos, Vegemite, koalas, Ned Kelly…hopefully for the upcoming tour we can get something different. 
    How about a magpie... in honor of the Premiership winners!! 
    Ah…no! 😂
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  • BrainofBGABrainofBGA Posts: 4,183
    I think the Aussie posters of the past, while ok, have been a littler stereotyped or cliched ie kangaroos, Vegemite, koalas, Ned Kelly…hopefully for the upcoming tour we can get something different. 
    The koalas in the Mad Max car? was probably the best though! 
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  • treestrees Posts: 1,867
    Just heard PJ on the Pittsburgh steelers and Ravens NFL Game maybe that's a hint thier playing there soon .or Baltimore. 
    Never heard the NFL play pj on the game commercial before commercials break


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    PJ Columbia SC 6/16/2008.....
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  • matt84matt84 Posts: 728
    edited January 6
    I think the Aussie posters of the past, while ok, have been a littler stereotyped or cliched ie kangaroos, Vegemite, koalas, Ned Kelly…hopefully for the upcoming tour we can get something different. 
    If I’m going to a gig in Australia though, that’s the kind of thing I’d actually want on the poster.
  • If Marlay Park is the venue for Dublin, that's a logistical nightmare, have been looking at accommodations...

    Because of location of accommodation or price of it?
  • gotthebottlegotthebottle Posts: 2,690
    edited January 7
    trees said:
    Just heard PJ on the Pittsburgh steelers and Ravens NFL Game maybe that's a hint thier playing there soon .or Baltimore. 
    Never heard the NFL play pj on the game commercial before commercials break
    I have... AND HERE WE GO STEELERS!!! WHOOOOHOOO
  • sedge75sedge75 Posts: 29
    edited January 7
    someone know where are the venue in LA and las vegas?
  • sweetspotsweetspot Posts: 76
    I really wish they would add HI to their tour.
  • gotthebottlegotthebottle Posts: 2,690
    sweetspot said:
    I really wish they would add HI to their tour.
    NOW YOU'RE TALKING!!! Been waiting for a show here since I saw them open for the final U2 Vertigo tour show and I got the wine bottle during Crazy Mary 
  • BrainofBGABrainofBGA Posts: 4,183
    matt84 said:
    I think the Aussie posters of the past, while ok, have been a littler stereotyped or cliched ie kangaroos, Vegemite, koalas, Ned Kelly…hopefully for the upcoming tour we can get something different. 
    If I’m going to a gig in Australia though, that’s the kind of thing I’d actually want on the poster.
    This is my 06 poster with a nod to bush ranger Ned Kelly. I do like it! 

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  • KwienekeKwieneke Posts: 1,595
    sweetspot said:
    I really wish they would add HI to their tour.
    NOW YOU'RE TALKING!!! Been waiting for a show here since I saw them open for the final U2 Vertigo tour show and I got the wine bottle during Crazy Mary 
    Is this where the username comes from?
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  • Yeah, we’re binning Dublin off too, those hotel prices are ridiculous just for one night..
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  • SHZASHZA Posts: 3,932
    sedge75 said:
    someone know where are the venue in LA and las vegas?
    Most likely the Forum in LA and MGM Grand Garden Arena in Vegas 
  • Bunting10Bunting10 Posts: 705
    If Marlay Park is the venue for Dublin, that's a logistical nightmare, have been looking at accommodations...
    All rumored shows are a nightmare. Seattle during Memorial Day week, Vegas during the big festival, Europe in the summer during euro cup, Wrigley and MSG during Labor Day weekend….
    Fenway’s timing feels fine… yay me!
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  • Bunting10Bunting10 Posts: 705
    trees said:
    Just heard PJ on the Pittsburgh steelers and Ravens NFL Game maybe that's a hint thier playing there soon .or Baltimore. 
    Never heard the NFL play pj on the game commercial before commercials break
    They do when the game is in Seattle
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  • SR106031SR106031 Posts: 4
    trees said:
    Just heard PJ on the Pittsburgh steelers and Ravens NFL Game maybe that's a hint thier playing there soon .or Baltimore. 
    Never heard the NFL play pj on the game commercial before commercials break
    Indy game got some PJ too at commercial
  • KwienekeKwieneke Posts: 1,595
    SR106031 said:
    trees said:
    Just heard PJ on the Pittsburgh steelers and Ravens NFL Game maybe that's a hint thier playing there soon .or Baltimore. 
    Never heard the NFL play pj on the game commercial before commercials break
    Indy game got some PJ too at commercial
    Missed this!
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  • gotthebottlegotthebottle Posts: 2,690
    Kwieneke said:
    sweetspot said:
    I really wish they would add HI to their tour.
    NOW YOU'RE TALKING!!! Been waiting for a show here since I saw them open for the final U2 Vertigo tour show and I got the wine bottle during Crazy Mary 
    Is this where the username comes from?
    Kwieneke said:
    sweetspot said:
    I really wish they would add HI to their tour.
    NOW YOU'RE TALKING!!! Been waiting for a show here since I saw them open for the final U2 Vertigo tour show and I got the wine bottle during Crazy Mary 
    Is this where the username comes from?
    😁😁
  • MM70435MM70435 Posts: 283
    edited January 7
    MSG vs Wells Fargo in Philly. 

     As usual I will have to board a plane to see them play.  I can only do one city and hope to see both shows.  I prefer arenas so I will aim for either NYC or Philly.  I went to both MSG shows in 2010 and it was above and beyond my expectations.  I felt the legendary floor moving and the energy from the crowd was insane!  I would love to go back but am thinking tickets with the lotto odds and everything will favor Philly (still not easy by any means).  Judging by listening to boots the crowd energy is similar.  Will a show experience at Wells Fargo be similar to MSG minus the floor shaking?  How much less difficult will getting tickets for Philly be?  I have a fairly low 10C # and usually get great seats.  I don't enjoy the F2F thing at all (I don't think NY even allows it anyway).  Any other pros and cons about the two places?

    (Sorry for this being off topic from actual "rumors")
    Post edited by MM70435 on
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  • KwienekeKwieneke Posts: 1,595
    Kwieneke said:
    sweetspot said:
    I really wish they would add HI to their tour.
    NOW YOU'RE TALKING!!! Been waiting for a show here since I saw them open for the final U2 Vertigo tour show and I got the wine bottle during Crazy Mary 
    Is this where the username comes from?
    Kwieneke said:
    sweetspot said:
    I really wish they would add HI to their tour.
    NOW YOU'RE TALKING!!! Been waiting for a show here since I saw them open for the final U2 Vertigo tour show and I got the wine bottle during Crazy Mary 
    Is this where the username comes from?
    😁😁
    Awesome! Now I’ll think about that every time I see you post🤣
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