This is pretty interesting. I'm not sure I realized the APs were the only form of compensation. While the writer was reaching out to these other artists he should have asked what flat fee is typical for a band of this stature. I need a little context to know whether it's a good deal or not.
Wondering: assuming the cities and rumoured venues are true… where would the better odds be to getting TC tix do we think between Vancouver and Chicago?
wrigley is double the capacity, but does it have more than double the demand?
I know there are other factors: TC allotment, demand…etc.
Love going to new places and seeing PJ… deciding between those 2.
Wondering: assuming the cities and rumoured venues are true… where would the better odds be to getting TC tix do we think between Vancouver and Chicago?
wrigley is double the capacity, but does it have more than double the demand?
I know there are other factors: TC allotment, demand…etc.
Love going to new places and seeing PJ… deciding between those 2.
Thoughts?
Go to Vancouver!! Arena's>baseball stadium's.
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Wondering: assuming the cities and rumoured venues are true… where would the better odds be to getting TC tix do we think between Vancouver and Chicago?
wrigley is double the capacity, but does it have more than double the demand?
I know there are other factors: TC allotment, demand…etc.
Love going to new places and seeing PJ… deciding between those 2.
Thoughts?
One thing to consider is the cost and inconvenience of getting there and staying there - with Vancouver taking the lead on each of those accounts. If you've got a passport and money to burn, go for Vancouver.
This is pretty interesting. I'm not sure I realized the APs were the only form of compensation. While the writer was reaching out to these other artists he should have asked what flat fee is typical for a band of this stature. I need a little context to know whether it's a good deal or not.
If the article was more objective, it might have discussed the exposure the artist gets from having a Pearl Jam poster in their portfolio. There is a value to that exposure and my guess many artists are pumped to have their artwork promoted by the band. And I’m not sure how the one artist they managed to talk to only made $3,000 after shipping costs. 100 AP’s at $100 each is $10,000. Where did the other $7,000 go?
And my biggest take away from the article is… no one is forcing the artist to make the poster. If the fee structure is not satisfactory then just say no thank you.
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This is pretty interesting. I'm not sure I realized the APs were the only form of compensation. While the writer was reaching out to these other artists he should have asked what flat fee is typical for a band of this stature. I need a little context to know whether it's a good deal or not.
If the article was more objective, it might have discussed the exposure the artist gets from having a Pearl Jam poster in their portfolio. There is a value to that exposure and my guess many artists are pumped to have their artwork promoted by the band. And I’m not sure how the one artist they managed to talk to only made $3,000 after shipping costs. 100 AP’s at $100 each is $10,000. Where did the other $7,000 go?
And my biggest take away from the article is… no one is forcing the artist to make the poster. If the fee structure is not satisfactory then just say no thank you.
Eh I still think the artist should be properly compensated for creating something the band makes a lot of money off of. The artists shouldn’t have to put more work in to make a little money themselves. Kind of ridiculous in my mind. I love Pearl Jam but that is kind of $hitty haha. They should get money and some posters out of the deal!
This is pretty interesting. I'm not sure I realized the APs were the only form of compensation. While the writer was reaching out to these other artists he should have asked what flat fee is typical for a band of this stature. I need a little context to know whether it's a good deal or not.
If the article was more objective, it might have discussed the exposure the artist gets from having a Pearl Jam poster in their portfolio. There is a value to that exposure and my guess many artists are pumped to have their artwork promoted by the band. And I’m not sure how the one artist they managed to talk to only made $3,000 after shipping costs. 100 AP’s at $100 each is $10,000. Where did the other $7,000 go?
And my biggest take away from the article is… no one is forcing the artist to make the poster. If the fee structure is not satisfactory then just say no thank you.
My thoughts exactly, the article was very one sided. They’re basically offering these artists $8,000-$12,000 depending on what they decide to charge ($80-$125 was the suggested range). And they would also charge a shipping fee to the buyer, so i don’t see the mentioned shipping costs taking away from their cut. For PJ, those artist editions go in a heartbeat, i could see for some other bands it being more of a gamble. It seemed this artist wasn’t familiar with the market for PJ posters, for the money she could make and the exposure, it seems like a no-brainer to me.
This is pretty interesting. I'm not sure I realized the APs were the only form of compensation. While the writer was reaching out to these other artists he should have asked what flat fee is typical for a band of this stature. I need a little context to know whether it's a good deal or not.
If the article was more objective, it might have discussed the exposure the artist gets from having a Pearl Jam poster in their portfolio. There is a value to that exposure and my guess many artists are pumped to have their artwork promoted by the band. And I’m not sure how the one artist they managed to talk to only made $3,000 after shipping costs. 100 AP’s at $100 each is $10,000. Where did the other $7,000 go?
And my biggest take away from the article is… no one is forcing the artist to make the poster. If the fee structure is not satisfactory then just say no thank you.
Eh I still think the artist should be properly compensated for creating something the band makes a lot of money off of. The artists shouldn’t have to put more work in to make a little money themselves. Kind of ridiculous in my mind. I love Pearl Jam but that is kind of $hitty haha. They should get money and some posters out of the deal!
That was my first reaction also, but after thinking about it and doing the math, they can make $10,000 selling the posters for $100 each. Much more than they would be able to get out of any bands up front considering they have these posters for every show of a tour. And even taking a percentage of the at-show sales, the band sells maybe 500 posters at $60 each a show, so that’s $30,000. The artists percentage isn’t going to be 33%, so they’re better off having it this way in the long run.
Also keep in mind, this is an artist who has never done concert posters before, i’m sure more established artists can negotiate different deals than this-either 100 APs and a percentage, or more APs. But it really isn’t as bad as it seems at first glance.
Since they're not coming to Belgium or near us I'm thinking of doing London and Berlin back-to-back. First time I'd be going alone. You guys have any tips or tricks on going alone to a PJ concert?
Since they're not coming to Belgium or near us I'm thinking of doing London and Berlin back-to-back. First time I'd be going alone. You guys have any tips or tricks on going alone to a PJ concert?
Tricks? I go alone alot.. Just go and enjoy.. what trick do you need?
Since they're not coming to Belgium or near us I'm thinking of doing London and Berlin back-to-back. First time I'd be going alone. You guys have any tips or tricks on going alone to a PJ concert?
After the official announcement, there'll be facebookgroups for the concerts in the separate cities. You can join those and ask any questions you'll have there. You'll be all right. Nothing to worry about, especially if you've already visited the cities before.
Leave your smartphone in your pocket for the entire concert and soak up every second with your senses.
I wish.. like some of us remember it used to be
I watched the Seattle '18 show on Amazon the other day, and it was hilarious to see a sea of cell phones recording the stage during some clips - weirdly meta. There's no need to record anything, but if you really want video, there's dozens of people around you recording.
Thank goodness PJ has boots. I wish more bands offered them, or at least more would allow tapers.
Since they're not coming to Belgium or near us I'm thinking of doing London and Berlin back-to-back. First time I'd be going alone. You guys have any tips or tricks on going alone to a PJ concert?
Going solo is great- I’ve met some of my best PJ touring buddies that way. I also fully agree with the comments about leaving your cell phone in your pocket the whole time- soak in the music and enjoy every second of it. IMO, every second you spend recording you’re missing out on what’s actually happening on stage. If you want videos to preserve the show, rest assured there will be tons of other people recording the show and posting their videos on YouTube.
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in which case, Chris is a dick and pay your people appropriately Pearl Jam
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And I see another post today, because people love to rehash stuff.
assuming the cities and rumoured venues are true… where would the better odds be to getting TC tix do we think between Vancouver and Chicago?
wrigley is double the capacity, but does it have more than double the demand?
I know there are other factors: TC allotment, demand…etc.
Love going to new places and seeing PJ… deciding between those 2.
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Tampa 6/12/08
Chicago 8/23/09
Indy 5/7/10
Alpine Valley x2 2011
Wrigley 2013
Milwaukee 14
Telluride 16
And my biggest take away from the article is… no one is forcing the artist to make the poster. If the fee structure is not satisfactory then just say no thank you.
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Just go and enjoy.. what trick do you need?
Thank goodness PJ has boots. I wish more bands offered them, or at least more would allow tapers.