The Official 2024 TOUR Thread

Father Hubbard

Hoping for Alpine 

JimmyV

Kwieneke said:

JimmyV said:

I always want more shows, more shows, as many shows as possible...but they can't even get through 9. Yeesh. 

as far as other major acts go, have they had this many cancellations in the last year or so? I hear some here and there but with PJ it seems like a lot. I could certainly be wrong 

Since the start of 2022 there was Ed's tour, PJ spring, PJ Euro, PJ fall and now this short 2023 run. Of those, I think only last fall went off without any cancellations or postponements. 

EDIT: To answer your question, plenty of other bands are cancelling shows, too. Bruce and gnr to name two. 

Mercury

Kwieneke said:

JimmyV said:

I always want more shows, more shows, as many shows as possible...but they can't even get through 9. Yeesh. 

as far as other major acts go, have they had this many cancellations in the last year or so? I hear some here and there but with PJ it seems like a lot. I could certainly be wrong 

Closest comparison is Metallica who had cancelled Phoenix 2 after James got Covid following PHX 1. They play similar two night stands with a night off inbetween. They gave fans the date pretty much immediately for the following Saturday as the OG date was a Saturday. I feel like we’ll be waiting a long time for a new date if we get it at all. Look at the number of dates Tool has played since 2022 with nary a cancellation. I don’t know if it’s bad luck, the band has a higher Covid testing standard or what. There’s always cancellations and things happen, but they just can’t seem to complete a run without bad luck. I was pleasantly surprised when they did in Sept 22. Hope everyone feels better, hope we get info on what to expect re: Indy soon. 

JimmyV

Two Bostons and a Hartford. Sleep in my own bed.

RatherStarved

lawguy1977 said:

True, but their post confirmed they would be rescheduling it, at least. 

That’s true and I believe they will indeed reschedule it.  No reason not to.

That being said it could very well be cancelled.  Similar to some of the Madonna shows that were allegedly going to be rescheduled but got canned when they did the new dates.  Since it’s only one show here that could help but it could also hurt.  

Mercury

RatherStarved said:

lawguy1977 said:

True, but their post confirmed they would be rescheduling it, at least. 

That’s true and I believe they will indeed reschedule it.  No reason not to.

That being said it could very well be cancelled.  Similar to some of the Madonna shows that were allegedly going to be rescheduled but got canned when they did the new dates.  Since it’s only one show here that could help but it could also hurt.  

The whole region this show serviced was way overdue. If they have a new album and tour it’s hard to imagine Ohio, Pitt and Detroit not being in play after how long it’s been as well. If anything maybe the rescheduled show pushes one of those out? But I think they’ll be nearby and my god if you know you need to fit Indy in now get in front of Ruoff’s schedule. Feels mission possible but only time will tell. 

lastexit78

Mercury said:

Kwieneke said:

JimmyV said:

I always want more shows, more shows, as many shows as possible...but they can't even get through 9. Yeesh. 

as far as other major acts go, have they had this many cancellations in the last year or so? I hear some here and there but with PJ it seems like a lot. I could certainly be wrong 

Closest comparison is Metallica who had cancelled Phoenix 2 after James got Covid following PHX 1. They play similar two night stands with a night off inbetween. They gave fans the date pretty much immediately for the following Saturday as the OG date was a Saturday. I feel like we’ll be waiting a long time for a new date if we get it at all. Look at the number of dates Tool has played since 2022 with nary a cancellation. I don’t know if it’s bad luck, the band has a higher Covid testing standard or what. There’s always cancellations and things happen, but they just can’t seem to complete a run without bad luck. I was pleasantly surprised when they did in Sept 22. Hope everyone feels better, hope we get info on what to expect re: Indy soon. 

If it’s illness derailing them again maybe playing outdoor shows in the summer would be a safer bet? When is the last time they toured the US in June/July/August? They should at least make up last night, Vegas & Sacramento in 2024. How Seattle keeps getting stiffed is beyond me as well. My fear is not everyone in the band enjoys touring at this post and everyone of these cancellations probably hurts the odds of us ever seeing a full blown tour again. 

trees

NewfieintheUSA said:

trees said:

I fell like since Indy is rescheduled .
That next year 2024 means Midwest states tour start 
Chicago IL
Indianapolis IN
Cincinnati OH
Columbus OH 
Cleveland OH
Detroit MI
Pittsburgh PA
East Coast tour
2nd leg 
West coast tour 
3rd leg Canada start in Haflex
End in Seattle WA
Not for sure 
Just saying 

They won't play Cincinnati, Columbus and Cleveland in the same tour

They could 

trees

I also fell like more outside venue's are the answer to being safer from illness 

NewfieintheUSA

trees said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

trees said:

I fell like since Indy is rescheduled .
That next year 2024 means Midwest states tour start 
Chicago IL
Indianapolis IN
Cincinnati OH
Columbus OH 
Cleveland OH
Detroit MI
Pittsburgh PA
East Coast tour
2nd leg 
West coast tour 
3rd leg Canada start in Haflex
End in Seattle WA
Not for sure 
Just saying 

They won't play Cincinnati, Columbus and Cleveland in the same tour

They could 

They won't 

Get_Right

Weston1283 said:

PJNB said:

AUSTRALIA!!!

Australia seems likely 

My biggest wonder is if they will finally hit Japan while over there

Seems like it’s now or never for a return to Japan

I so regret missing Budokan. 

Lost In Ohio

NewfieintheUSA said:

trees said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

trees said:

I fell like since Indy is rescheduled .
That next year 2024 means Midwest states tour start 
Chicago IL
Indianapolis IN
Cincinnati OH
Columbus OH 
Cleveland OH
Detroit MI
Pittsburgh PA
East Coast tour
2nd leg 
West coast tour 
3rd leg Canada start in Haflex
End in Seattle WA
Not for sure 
Just saying 

They won't play Cincinnati, Columbus and Cleveland in the same tour

They could 

They won't 

There's no need. They know fans will travel. Hell, someone from friggin Bogata was seen in Indy.

The fall 2020 tour was rumored for Pittsburgh, Columbus OR Cleveland (not both) and other various cities.

I also wouldn't be surprised if they set up a "hub" in a major city and did a few shows around that city. Does anyone know if they were rooming in St. Paul for those shows? I wouldn't have been surprised if their plan (or maybe Eddie's plan) was to go back to Chicago for a few days after Indy before heading to Texas.

In 2016, didn't they base in Orlando for the Florida shows?

verceman

To get this thread back on the rumor focus, here's a rumor from Facebook that the Indiana show will happen in May:

“Ruoff workers got the “we need to meet” text at 1:25, learned show was cancelled. Stage was getting built/lights up, that stopped and was torn down by 5:30. They shut down parking lot at 4:30, people still rolling up at 6:30/7:00 that didn’t know show was cancelled (driving in from out of town, hadn’t been on social media). I think band was to fly in at 4, but somebody must’ve woke up sick. They asked about September 23rd, but Ruoff already has Farm Aid, so looking like next May. No date set yet.”

Hankj25

It’s funny, life on the road is hard.  Long nights, hotels, etc.  You get up there in age, and it gets harder.

Not being able to even get to show 5 is so frustrating…it’s difficult to even get amped for a tour 2024…in all seriousness…how many shows do we honestly think they’ll do?  Even with a potential album, it’s rumored that a few of the band hate touring..and now all this…Do we really see this band doing a world tour that includes 15-20 North American Shows?  

My advice (from my own experience) is go crazy and balls out to get to a show close to you.  Buyer beware banking on these shows hopping in where you have to fly in…it’s a weird world out there right now with illness, and given the rash of older bands bailing on shows…be careful.

NSL

23rd woulda worked perfect for me!  Hopefully can make it next year

Go Animal

Lost In Ohio said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

trees said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

trees said:

I fell like since Indy is rescheduled .
That next year 2024 means Midwest states tour start 
Chicago IL
Indianapolis IN
Cincinnati OH
Columbus OH 
Cleveland OH
Detroit MI
Pittsburgh PA
East Coast tour
2nd leg 
West coast tour 
3rd leg Canada start in Haflex
End in Seattle WA
Not for sure 
Just saying 

They won't play Cincinnati, Columbus and Cleveland in the same tour

They could 

They won't 

There's no need. They know fans will travel. Hell, someone from friggin Bogata was seen in Indy.

The fall 2020 tour was rumored for Pittsburgh, Columbus OR Cleveland (not both) and other various cities.

I also wouldn't be surprised if they set up a "hub" in a major city and did a few shows around that city. Does anyone know if they were rooming in St. Paul for those shows? I wouldn't have been surprised if their plan (or maybe Eddie's plan) was to go back to Chicago for a few days after Indy before heading to Texas.

In 2016, didn't they base in Orlando for the Florida shows?

I can neither confirm, nor deny this...

Go Animal

We are long overdue for an Orlando show, tho...

CO278952

Go Animal said:

We are long overdue for an Orlando show, tho...

Yea man!

lastexit78

Hankj25 said:

It’s funny, life on the road is hard.  Long nights, hotels, etc.  You get up there in age, and it gets harder.

Not being able to even get to show 5 is so frustrating…it’s difficult to even get amped for a tour 2024…in all seriousness…how many shows do we honestly think they’ll do?  Even with a potential album, it’s rumored that a few of the band hate touring..and now all this…Do we really see this band doing a world tour that includes 15-20 North American Shows?  

My advice (from my own experience) is go crazy and balls out to get to a show close to you.  Buyer beware banking on these shows hopping in where you have to fly in…it’s a weird world out there right now with illness, and given the rash of older bands bailing on shows…be careful.

It’s not just illness making traveling to shows a risk anymore. Travel in general is a gamble, many of my flights since 2021 have had issues, including a New York flight in late June being abruptly cancelled with no alternative offered. Climate change is another factor, they had to cancel Vienna last year due to wildfires which are causing poor air quality all over the globe each summer. I’m surprised they don’t focus more on west coast shows, specifically Seattle. Seems like the perfect solution if certain members of the band don’t enjoy touring at this point. They could play say 5 shows at Climate Pledge Arena over the course of a summer along with a weekend at the Gorge and probably sellout all of them. Another option is a ballpark tour where they could play say 8 shows in front of massive crowds at a few large cities. 

know1

I'll probably wait until after the "tour "to ask this in it's own thread, but does it even make sense to be in the fan club anymore? After 20 years of never letting my membership drop, my seats have never gotten better. In fact, they've gotten slightly worse.That's due to a number of things and decisions by the band and ticketing. 

But I could have bought better face value seats to the show I was supposed to go to, then I had with my 20 year membership number. Or at least very similar seats.

Then throw in that they are barely touring and then canceling more and more shows, I'm just seriously questioning why I bother. I should just sit back and wait until they happen to do a show within close driving distance to me. They might be 70 by then, and the show will likely get canceled, but at least I won't be out the years of membership fees and several hundred dollars in travel expenses.

The canceling I kind of understand. But making the fan club membership useless and valueless is an odd decision by the band.