Vinyl prices has reached its breaking point IMO

I understand that they are now selling to people who "want/collect vinyl" and not "people who want music", and that the market is smaller.

But looking through the local record store (here in Sweden sure, so more expensive than other places) and finding these prices:

Taylor Swift - Lover  - $33
New Pixies (1 LP) - $33
Live on two Legs - $42
RSD My Morning Jacket (1 LP) - $30
Some new Leonard Cohen greatest hits - $45


While CD's keep the same price (pretty much) as 20 years ago.

I will keep buying a select few Neil Young releases, and I guess I'm somewhat stuck with Pearl Jam (even with their highly cynical colored re-releases) but other than that, I will stick with streaming.

It is just too expensive to buy new releases on wax.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,471
    I haven’t gone to a RSD In like 5 years. Prices were up and so was the print runs. Unless it’s a new release or something I have to have I don’t bother. 

    I just cancelled my VMP membership because the cost didn’t justify the product anymore. 

    Every OhSees record that comes out I’ll be buying though!!!
  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    I agree it’s too much.

    however I also haven’t seen vinyl prices going up at the same rate as a lot of other things over the past 6-8 months either

    from what I remember from years ago Sweden wasn’t as expensive as Norway though. I still remember getting charged 40 bucks for two servings of Ben and Jerry’s in Olso about 8 years ago. That’s a double LP right there. It was crazy
  • elvistheking44
    elvistheking44 Posts: 4,542
    I turn 47 today. I’m having lunch with my daughter and then we are hitting record stores around the city. Can’t wait but I’m fearful for my wallet.
  • BrainofBGA
    BrainofBGA Australia Posts: 4,558
    In Australia you pay $50-$100 for brand new vinyl. Actually you pay that much for most vinyl. 
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  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,116
    I turn 47 today. I’m having lunch with my daughter and then we are hitting record stores around the city. Can’t wait but I’m fearful for my wallet.
    Happy Birthday!! Have fun. 
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,906
    It's not great, but I think vinyl also costs more to produce than cd's.    Plus the equipment is limited.   I think most pressing plant's out there use older equipment from when vinyl was first popular (there's only one plant I've heard of that made new equipment). The limited scope puts pressing plant's at a premium (given it take a year to get something pressed).  I think pressing plants are probably taking advantage of the pent up demand.

    I guess it hasn't hit the point that I've slowed down on my buying.  I am happy I've been collecting for 25 years so I haven't bought all of it at modern more expensive prices.  It would be super expensive to start a collection now.

    Remembering how hard it was to find new vinyl in the 90s and 00s.... I still haven't gotten over the fact how easy it is to find stuff now.


  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited June 2022
    Zod said:
    It's not great, but I think vinyl also costs more to produce than cd's.    Plus the equipment is limited.   I think most pressing plant's out there use older equipment from when vinyl was first popular (there's only one plant I've heard of that made new equipment). The limited scope puts pressing plant's at a premium (given it take a year to get something pressed).  I think pressing plants are probably taking advantage of the pent up demand.

    I guess it hasn't hit the point that I've slowed down on my buying.  I am happy I've been collecting for 25 years so I haven't bought all of it at modern more expensive prices.  It would be super expensive to start a collection now.

    Remembering how hard it was to find new vinyl in the 90s and 00s.... I still haven't gotten over the fact how easy it is to find stuff now.


    It’s a sellers market for vinyl for sure cd’s are the reverse. 

    TBH I’m more frustrated by the fact most of this demand has to be among buyers who just want a vinyl record no matter the quality and are probably playing it on crappy equipment so they wouldn’t notice anyway.  We aren’t getting better quality for these higher prices. It’s probably lower quality and paying more for it. 

    id way rather pay 60-70 for an AP release than 40 for most of this other stuff.  At 40-50 for Lo2L with tax and shipping the value isn’t there 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,485
    I agree it’s too much.

    however I also haven’t seen vinyl prices going up at the same rate as a lot of other things over the past 6-8 months either

    from what I remember from years ago Sweden wasn’t as expensive as Norway though. I still remember getting charged 40 bucks for two servings of Ben and Jerry’s in Olso about 8 years ago. That’s a double LP right there. It was crazy
    Isn't Tokyo and Oslo considered to be the two most expensive cities in the world? So yes, it is quite a bit more expensive than Sweden.

    But 40 dollars for ice cream seems a bit aggressive... you sure you didn't walk into some Michelin awarded restaurant? haha.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    I agree it’s too much.

    however I also haven’t seen vinyl prices going up at the same rate as a lot of other things over the past 6-8 months either

    from what I remember from years ago Sweden wasn’t as expensive as Norway though. I still remember getting charged 40 bucks for two servings of Ben and Jerry’s in Olso about 8 years ago. That’s a double LP right there. It was crazy
    Isn't Tokyo and Oslo considered to be the two most expensive cities in the world? So yes, it is quite a bit more expensive than Sweden.

    But 40 dollars for ice cream seems a bit aggressive... you sure you didn't walk into some Michelin awarded restaurant? haha.
    We lived in London at the time. Not exactly a cheap city. Norway was on a whole different level.  I’d hate to see what their record store prices are 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,661
    Great time to start selling off a collection. 
  • FR181798
    FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    edited June 2022
    Agree prices are very high and too much but I've thought that for a long time. Every so often I trim my collection down, get rid of doubles. I'm getting a bit more savvy about what "limited editions" I buy. Vinyl has also become a bit like CDs in that a few months after release there are special offers. 

    I've started holding off on anything that doesn't appear super limited. I've had a few records recently where the price has seemed much more sensible.
    Killers Pressure Machine new for £13.99. Band of Horses for £17.99 etc. Even NY Carnegie Hall seemed okay at £21.99. Also I mentioned in another thread but hmv here had Lightning Bolt for £8.99 a few months ago. 

    I think its these records where they slap a price of £35 -£45 for a double LP from new that annoy me most.




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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,520
    edited June 2022
    I've finally been priced out. I might even start selling some off. I really liked the idea of it; but I just don't sit and listen to music at home as much as I wished I could, or as I used to be able to. I'm about 95% digital listening now. It is what it is. 

    I think I'm going to go back to my original intention; only buy vinyl that is only available on that format. Everything else is digital and possibly some cd's. 
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,106
    I've finally been priced out. I might even start selling some off. I really liked the idea of it; but I just don't sit and listen to music at home as much as I wished I could, or as I used to be able to. I'm about 95% digital listening now. It is what it is. 

    I think I'm going to go back to my original intention; only buy vinyl that is only available on that format. Everything else is digital and possibly some cd's. 
    I'm thinking of selling a lot of my collection as I am pretty sure there is a couple thousand bucks there.  I have no sentimental attachment and can keep a handful of newer records that I really like that just don't have huge resale value.  
    Scio me nihil scire

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,520
    static111 said:
    I've finally been priced out. I might even start selling some off. I really liked the idea of it; but I just don't sit and listen to music at home as much as I wished I could, or as I used to be able to. I'm about 95% digital listening now. It is what it is. 

    I think I'm going to go back to my original intention; only buy vinyl that is only available on that format. Everything else is digital and possibly some cd's. 
    I'm thinking of selling a lot of my collection as I am pretty sure there is a couple thousand bucks there.  I have no sentimental attachment and can keep a handful of newer records that I really like that just don't have huge resale value.  
    my problem is I constantly flip flop on what I want. I have bought and sold so many records that I regretted selling only to repurchase at an inflated price and then regret buying it again....if I sell it again....will I regret it again? right away...no. In 6 months? who knows. 

    I recently bought Lost Dogs here for about $600 CDN. which is really quite insane for a damn record who's music I can access digitally or on compact disc. But I'm a completist. I have the rest of the studio albums on vinyl. So I have to have this one. that's so dumb (and I stopped short of buying the greatest hits records). I bought the ten and vs/vitalogy super deluxes TWICE. the first vs/vitalogy SD came with Vault 1 on cd as a bonus. I sold that too. which I now regret, but it costs an insane amount to buy now (for a cd). I have it now on vinyl, but I haven't opened it in case I have more buyer's remorse. 

    but why do I have vault 1 on vinyl but no other vaults? do i have to track them all down now too? or sell all my damn vinyl and go to see the band live?

    to sum up....I just want to be normal again. 
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,106
    static111 said:
    I've finally been priced out. I might even start selling some off. I really liked the idea of it; but I just don't sit and listen to music at home as much as I wished I could, or as I used to be able to. I'm about 95% digital listening now. It is what it is. 

    I think I'm going to go back to my original intention; only buy vinyl that is only available on that format. Everything else is digital and possibly some cd's. 
    I'm thinking of selling a lot of my collection as I am pretty sure there is a couple thousand bucks there.  I have no sentimental attachment and can keep a handful of newer records that I really like that just don't have huge resale value.  
    my problem is I constantly flip flop on what I want. I have bought and sold so many records that I regretted selling only to repurchase at an inflated price and then regret buying it again....if I sell it again....will I regret it again? right away...no. In 6 months? who knows. 

    I recently bought Lost Dogs here for about $600 CDN. which is really quite insane for a damn record who's music I can access digitally or on compact disc. But I'm a completist. I have the rest of the studio albums on vinyl. So I have to have this one. that's so dumb (and I stopped short of buying the greatest hits records). I bought the ten and vs/vitalogy super deluxes TWICE. the first vs/vitalogy SD came with Vault 1 on cd as a bonus. I sold that too. which I now regret, but it costs an insane amount to buy now (for a cd). I have it now on vinyl, but I haven't opened it in case I have more buyer's remorse. 

    but why do I have vault 1 on vinyl but no other vaults? do i have to track them all down now too? or sell all my damn vinyl and go to see the band live?

    to sum up....I just want to be normal again. 
    Hey I just bought the lo2l reissue that I had and sold and wasn't gonna buy, because it is Gold, so I know how you feel
    Scio me nihil scire

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    It's definitely getting up there.  There are always going to be a few new things I'll get in vinyl but lately, I'm more prone to scouring the internet (a friend of mine told me, "It's about time someone cleaned it up") for good deals.  They're out there, but it takes a lot of time and persistence to dig them out (and hope the seller is accurate in grading).
    I remember when my vinyl collection reached the a total of 50 albums and I thought I owned the world of music.  Now at around 1,000 LPs, I'm really scaling back on investing in vinyl.  Kind of a first world problem, ya know?  If every human on earth had 1,000 albums there would need to be a total of almost 8 trillion LPs.  That's a lot of crude oil (they are petroleum after all, not wax).
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    edited June 2022
    Vinyl is my favourite way to listen to music. For the folks who got into it because it was cool or retro or prefer the convenience of digital, it may be a “breaking point”. But for those of us who simply love the experience and it is our favourite past time, we will continue to buy wax. 

    I’m slowing down on purchases, but it’s mainly because I have a lot of albums and my wantlist is considerably smaller than it once was so I’m more selective at what I am buying. I’m also trying to avoid, for the most part, purchasing records online choosing instead to support local record shops for both new and used records. Shipping costs are becoming a deterrent. 10 club vinyl or Club Bastardo vinyl… What choice do I have? 

    Having fun with the hunt. Like digging at local record stores… never know what you can find. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Vinyl is my favourite way to listen to music. For the folks who got into it because it was cool or retro or prefer the convenience of digital, it may be a “breaking point”. But for those of us who simply love the experience and it is our favourite past time, we will continue to buy wax. 

    I’m slowing down on purchases, but it’s mainly because I have a lot of albums and my wantlist is considerably smaller than it once was so I’m more selective at what I am buying. I’m also trying to avoid, for the most part, purchasing records online choosing instead to support local record shops for both new and used records. Shipping costs are becoming a deterrent. 10 club vinyl or Club Bastardo vinyl… What choice do I have? 

    Having fun with the hunt. Like digging at local record stores… never know what you can find. 
    Vinyl is my favourite way to listen to music. For the folks who got into it because it was cool or retro or prefer the convenience of digital, it may be a “breaking point”. But for those of us who simply love the experience and it is our favourite past time, we will continue to buy wax.

    Nicely said, 1T! 
    I find it odd that some folks shell out big bucks for vinyl LPs simply because it is a popular thing, or cool, or retro.  I wonder if they appreciate the true qualities of a good vinyl LP?   I mean, it's their money and I wouldn't tell anyone what to do with it, I just don't get it.  The big draw back to the trendy side of the popularity is that pressing plants are backed up and it can take an album as much as 8 months in queue to get pressed.  And then some run out!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    I've finally been priced out. I might even start selling some off. I really liked the idea of it; but I just don't sit and listen to music at home as much as I wished I could, or as I used to be able to. I'm about 95% digital listening now. It is what it is. 

    I think I'm going to go back to my original intention; only buy vinyl that is only available on that format. Everything else is digital and possibly some cd's. 

    You might regret a sell off once your kids are older and you have more time on your hands to spin them! ;)
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 11,758
    I always regret selling anything. Never once said ,why did I keep this?