Vinyl prices has reached its breaking point IMO

Spiritual_Chaos
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I understand that they are now selling to people who "want/collect vinyl" and not "people who want music", and that the market is smaller.
But looking through the local record store (here in Sweden sure, so more expensive than other places) and finding these prices:
Taylor Swift - Lover - $33
New Pixies (1 LP) - $33
Live on two Legs - $42
RSD My Morning Jacket (1 LP) - $30
Some new Leonard Cohen greatest hits - $45
While CD's keep the same price (pretty much) as 20 years ago.
I will keep buying a select few Neil Young releases, and I guess I'm somewhat stuck with Pearl Jam (even with their highly cynical colored re-releases) but other than that, I will stick with streaming.
It is just too expensive to buy new releases on wax.
But looking through the local record store (here in Sweden sure, so more expensive than other places) and finding these prices:
Taylor Swift - Lover - $33
New Pixies (1 LP) - $33
Live on two Legs - $42
RSD My Morning Jacket (1 LP) - $30
Some new Leonard Cohen greatest hits - $45
While CD's keep the same price (pretty much) as 20 years ago.
I will keep buying a select few Neil Young releases, and I guess I'm somewhat stuck with Pearl Jam (even with their highly cynical colored re-releases) but other than that, I will stick with streaming.
It is just too expensive to buy new releases on wax.
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I haven’t gone to a RSD In like 5 years. Prices were up and so was the print runs. Unless it’s a new release or something I have to have I don’t bother.I just cancelled my VMP membership because the cost didn’t justify the product anymore.Every OhSees record that comes out I’ll be buying though!!!0
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I agree it’s too much.
however I also haven’t seen vinyl prices going up at the same rate as a lot of other things over the past 6-8 months either
from what I remember from years ago Sweden wasn’t as expensive as Norway though. I still remember getting charged 40 bucks for two servings of Ben and Jerry’s in Olso about 8 years ago. That’s a double LP right there. It was crazy0 -
I turn 47 today. I’m having lunch with my daughter and then we are hitting record stores around the city. Can’t wait but I’m fearful for my wallet.0
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In Australia you pay $50-$100 for brand new vinyl. Actually you pay that much for most vinyl.Melbourne #1 '98
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elvistheking44 said:I turn 47 today. I’m having lunch with my daughter and then we are hitting record stores around the city. Can’t wait but I’m fearful for my wallet.0
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It's not great, but I think vinyl also costs more to produce than cd's. Plus the equipment is limited. I think most pressing plant's out there use older equipment from when vinyl was first popular (there's only one plant I've heard of that made new equipment). The limited scope puts pressing plant's at a premium (given it take a year to get something pressed). I think pressing plants are probably taking advantage of the pent up demand.I guess it hasn't hit the point that I've slowed down on my buying. I am happy I've been collecting for 25 years so I haven't bought all of it at modern more expensive prices. It would be super expensive to start a collection now.Remembering how hard it was to find new vinyl in the 90s and 00s.... I still haven't gotten over the fact how easy it is to find stuff now.0
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Zod said:It's not great, but I think vinyl also costs more to produce than cd's. Plus the equipment is limited. I think most pressing plant's out there use older equipment from when vinyl was first popular (there's only one plant I've heard of that made new equipment). The limited scope puts pressing plant's at a premium (given it take a year to get something pressed). I think pressing plants are probably taking advantage of the pent up demand.I guess it hasn't hit the point that I've slowed down on my buying. I am happy I've been collecting for 25 years so I haven't bought all of it at modern more expensive prices. It would be super expensive to start a collection now.Remembering how hard it was to find new vinyl in the 90s and 00s.... I still haven't gotten over the fact how easy it is to find stuff now.TBH I’m more frustrated by the fact most of this demand has to be among buyers who just want a vinyl record no matter the quality and are probably playing it on crappy equipment so they wouldn’t notice anyway. We aren’t getting better quality for these higher prices. It’s probably lower quality and paying more for it.
id way rather pay 60-70 for an AP release than 40 for most of this other stuff. At 40-50 for Lo2L with tax and shipping the value isn’t therePost edited by Cropduster-80 on0 -
Cropduster-80 said:I agree it’s too much.
however I also haven’t seen vinyl prices going up at the same rate as a lot of other things over the past 6-8 months either
from what I remember from years ago Sweden wasn’t as expensive as Norway though. I still remember getting charged 40 bucks for two servings of Ben and Jerry’s in Olso about 8 years ago. That’s a double LP right there. It was crazy
But 40 dollars for ice cream seems a bit aggressive... you sure you didn't walk into some Michelin awarded restaurant? haha."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Spiritual_Chaos said:Cropduster-80 said:I agree it’s too much.
however I also haven’t seen vinyl prices going up at the same rate as a lot of other things over the past 6-8 months either
from what I remember from years ago Sweden wasn’t as expensive as Norway though. I still remember getting charged 40 bucks for two servings of Ben and Jerry’s in Olso about 8 years ago. That’s a double LP right there. It was crazy
But 40 dollars for ice cream seems a bit aggressive... you sure you didn't walk into some Michelin awarded restaurant? haha.0 -
Great time to start selling off a collection.0
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Agree prices are very high and too much but I've thought that for a long time. Every so often I trim my collection down, get rid of doubles. I'm getting a bit more savvy about what "limited editions" I buy. Vinyl has also become a bit like CDs in that a few months after release there are special offers.
I've started holding off on anything that doesn't appear super limited. I've had a few records recently where the price has seemed much more sensible.
Killers Pressure Machine new for £13.99. Band of Horses for £17.99 etc. Even NY Carnegie Hall seemed okay at £21.99. Also I mentioned in another thread but hmv here had Lightning Bolt for £8.99 a few months ago.
I think its these records where they slap a price of £35 -£45 for a double LP from new that annoy me most.
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I've finally been priced out. I might even start selling some off. I really liked the idea of it; but I just don't sit and listen to music at home as much as I wished I could, or as I used to be able to. I'm about 95% digital listening now. It is what it is.
I think I'm going to go back to my original intention; only buy vinyl that is only available on that format. Everything else is digital and possibly some cd's.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:I've finally been priced out. I might even start selling some off. I really liked the idea of it; but I just don't sit and listen to music at home as much as I wished I could, or as I used to be able to. I'm about 95% digital listening now. It is what it is.
I think I'm going to go back to my original intention; only buy vinyl that is only available on that format. Everything else is digital and possibly some cd's.Scio me nihil scire
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static111 said:HughFreakingDillon said:I've finally been priced out. I might even start selling some off. I really liked the idea of it; but I just don't sit and listen to music at home as much as I wished I could, or as I used to be able to. I'm about 95% digital listening now. It is what it is.
I think I'm going to go back to my original intention; only buy vinyl that is only available on that format. Everything else is digital and possibly some cd's.
I recently bought Lost Dogs here for about $600 CDN. which is really quite insane for a damn record who's music I can access digitally or on compact disc. But I'm a completist. I have the rest of the studio albums on vinyl. So I have to have this one. that's so dumb (and I stopped short of buying the greatest hits records). I bought the ten and vs/vitalogy super deluxes TWICE. the first vs/vitalogy SD came with Vault 1 on cd as a bonus. I sold that too. which I now regret, but it costs an insane amount to buy now (for a cd). I have it now on vinyl, but I haven't opened it in case I have more buyer's remorse.
but why do I have vault 1 on vinyl but no other vaults? do i have to track them all down now too? or sell all my damn vinyl and go to see the band live?
to sum up....I just want to be normal again.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:static111 said:HughFreakingDillon said:I've finally been priced out. I might even start selling some off. I really liked the idea of it; but I just don't sit and listen to music at home as much as I wished I could, or as I used to be able to. I'm about 95% digital listening now. It is what it is.
I think I'm going to go back to my original intention; only buy vinyl that is only available on that format. Everything else is digital and possibly some cd's.
I recently bought Lost Dogs here for about $600 CDN. which is really quite insane for a damn record who's music I can access digitally or on compact disc. But I'm a completist. I have the rest of the studio albums on vinyl. So I have to have this one. that's so dumb (and I stopped short of buying the greatest hits records). I bought the ten and vs/vitalogy super deluxes TWICE. the first vs/vitalogy SD came with Vault 1 on cd as a bonus. I sold that too. which I now regret, but it costs an insane amount to buy now (for a cd). I have it now on vinyl, but I haven't opened it in case I have more buyer's remorse.
but why do I have vault 1 on vinyl but no other vaults? do i have to track them all down now too? or sell all my damn vinyl and go to see the band live?
to sum up....I just want to be normal again.Scio me nihil scire
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It's definitely getting up there. There are always going to be a few new things I'll get in vinyl but lately, I'm more prone to scouring the internet (a friend of mine told me, "It's about time someone cleaned it up") for good deals. They're out there, but it takes a lot of time and persistence to dig them out (and hope the seller is accurate in grading).I remember when my vinyl collection reached the a total of 50 albums and I thought I owned the world of music. Now at around 1,000 LPs, I'm really scaling back on investing in vinyl. Kind of a first world problem, ya know? If every human on earth had 1,000 albums there would need to be a total of almost 8 trillion LPs. That's a lot of crude oil (they are petroleum after all, not wax)."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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Vinyl is my favourite way to listen to music. For the folks who got into it because it was cool or retro or prefer the convenience of digital, it may be a “breaking point”. But for those of us who simply love the experience and it is our favourite past time, we will continue to buy wax.I’m slowing down on purchases, but it’s mainly because I have a lot of albums and my wantlist is considerably smaller than it once was so I’m more selective at what I am buying. I’m also trying to avoid, for the most part, purchasing records online choosing instead to support local record shops for both new and used records. Shipping costs are becoming a deterrent. 10 club vinyl or Club Bastardo vinyl… What choice do I have?Having fun with the hunt. Like digging at local record stores… never know what you can find.0
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1ThoughtKnown said:Vinyl is my favourite way to listen to music. For the folks who got into it because it was cool or retro or prefer the convenience of digital, it may be a “breaking point”. But for those of us who simply love the experience and it is our favourite past time, we will continue to buy wax.I’m slowing down on purchases, but it’s mainly because I have a lot of albums and my wantlist is considerably smaller than it once was so I’m more selective at what I am buying. I’m also trying to avoid, for the most part, purchasing records online choosing instead to support local record shops for both new and used records. Shipping costs are becoming a deterrent. 10 club vinyl or Club Bastardo vinyl… What choice do I have?Having fun with the hunt. Like digging at local record stores… never know what you can find.Nicely said, 1T!I find it odd that some folks shell out big bucks for vinyl LPs simply because it is a popular thing, or cool, or retro. I wonder if they appreciate the true qualities of a good vinyl LP? I mean, it's their money and I wouldn't tell anyone what to do with it, I just don't get it. The big draw back to the trendy side of the popularity is that pressing plants are backed up and it can take an album as much as 8 months in queue to get pressed. And then some run out!"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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HughFreakingDillon said:I've finally been priced out. I might even start selling some off. I really liked the idea of it; but I just don't sit and listen to music at home as much as I wished I could, or as I used to be able to. I'm about 95% digital listening now. It is what it is.
I think I'm going to go back to my original intention; only buy vinyl that is only available on that format. Everything else is digital and possibly some cd's.
You might regret a sell off once your kids are older and you have more time on your hands to spin them!
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I always regret selling anything. Never once said ,why did I keep this?0
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