another block of 12 seats in section 104 for Camden are you for $1,150 a piece. Camden was holding steady with about 40 platinum seats, now they are up to 52. Most being in section 104
can you feel this world with your heart and not your brain?
It’s manipulating the market. It’s bullshit. They create the market, then capitalize as much as possible. Holding back tickets and creating scarcity to drive prices up is fucking dishonest and bullshit. I hate Ticketmaster more than I hate actual scalpers. This will be the reason why I don’t see concerts anymore besides a very small handful of acts. I’m not blaming bands because they literally have no other OPTIONS when it comes to playing live shows.
It’s manipulating the market. It’s bullshit. They create the market, then capitalize as much as possible. Holding back tickets and creating scarcity to drive prices up is fucking dishonest and bullshit. I hate Ticketmaster more than I hate actual scalpers. This will be the reason why I don’t see concerts anymore besides a very small handful of acts. I’m not blaming bands because they literally have no other OPTIONS when it comes to playing live shows.
This is well stated and an accurate portrayal of where things are at. They string you along until the show gets closer and closer, making the desperate fan feel like they have to pull the trigger if they want to see their favorite band. I wish people would just not buy the premium tickets as it seems that is the only way to make any sort of change.
And waiting until the day of for ticket drops doesn't work for a large portion of people who travel for PJ shows. If it's in your hometown or a 2-3 hour drive, sure. But when you have to factor in hotels and all of that, it's hard to pull the trigger on that stuff without tickets in hand. Sucks all the way around.
Releasing more premium seats in the 100s in Camden is a really bad look. So so many 10c members with really low numbers way back in the 200s. And as expected this was because so many of the good seats, not just "a handful" are held back for the premium BS shell game.
Really hope this isn't the new norm on future tours.
Releasing more premium seats in the 100s in Camden is a really bad look. So so many 10c members with really low numbers way back in the 200s. And as expected this was because so many of the good seats, not just "a handful" are held back for the premium BS shell game.
Really hope this isn't the new norm on future tours.
Highly doubt they would go back now that the cork is out of the bottle. It's here to stay I fear.
Releasing more premium seats in the 100s in Camden is a really bad look. So so many 10c members with really low numbers way back in the 200s. And as expected this was because so many of the good seats, not just "a handful" are held back for the premium BS shell game.
Really hope this isn't the new norm on future tours.
I was toying with the idea of adding LA2, and looked at tickets on TM. The regularly priced tickets still require VF code. LA1 and LA2 are the only shows in May requiring VF code. Has anyone else noticed this? What could be the explanation for this?
Does anyone know if they have released or will release seats behind the stage for St. Louis?
There were a lot of behind the stage seats released during the verified fan sales. Not sure if they are holding more back at this point but I’m guessing most of the seats we will see going forward are in better locations so they can command a higher price.
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Man if this is the new normal for 10c, pretty disappointing...long long time members in the last row of seats, most 10c members in the back of the 200s...and tickets in the 100s for almost a grand.
I know it's TM and not the band but this is really demoralizing.
It is the band willing to do business with TM. Do not confuse. TM makes the rules and PJ agrees to play by them. They have a choice.
Man if this is the new normal for 10c, pretty disappointing...long long time members in the last row of seats, most 10c members in the back of the 200s...and tickets in the 100s for almost a grand.
I know it's TM and not the band but this is really demoralizing.
It is the band willing to do business with TM. Do not confuse. TM makes the rules and PJ agrees to play by them. They have a choice.
Technically they have a choice but we all saw what happened when they chose not to work with TM so is it really a choice especially when it's even worse these days?
They had 5 years under their belt and sat in front of Congress talking about how Ticketmaster had a monopoly on ticketing. They did a tour without Ticketmaster and lost their case. If they really wanted to change the system, they should try again. Fuck Ticketmaster 2025. "If you hate something, don't you do it too."
Man if this is the new normal for 10c, pretty disappointing...long long time members in the last row of seats, most 10c members in the back of the 200s...and tickets in the 100s for almost a grand.
I know it's TM and not the band but this is really demoralizing.
It is the band willing to do business with TM. Do not confuse. TM makes the rules and PJ agrees to play by them. They have a choice.
Man if this is the new normal for 10c, pretty disappointing...long long time members in the last row of seats, most 10c members in the back of the 200s...and tickets in the 100s for almost a grand.
I know it's TM and not the band but this is really demoralizing.
It is the band willing to do business with TM. Do not confuse. TM makes the rules and PJ agrees to play by them. They have a choice.
Technically they have a choice but we all saw what happened when they chose not to work with TM so is it really a choice especially when it's even worse these days?
They had 5 years under their belt and sat in front of Congress talking about how Ticketmaster had a monopoly on ticketing. They did a tour without Ticketmaster and lost their case. If they really wanted to change the system, they should try again. Fuck Ticketmaster 2025. "If you hate something, don't you do it too."
How? They tried that in '95 by doing a tour using derelict or invented venues, and almost killed themselves. That's not even an option anymore. I don't think there's anyway to tour without TM anymore.
How it's not been declared a monopoly I have no idea.
That being said, I'm guessing other ticket agencies will use platinum too. I know the RATM show in Vancouver had platinum tickets too, and it doesn't use TM.
I think TM invented platinum to make more $$ for everyone, but it does result in more money for artists. So it's not like competitors aren't going to use it too.
What other bands can you NOT resale except for “face” outside of NY and CO due to laws? That’s progress. They did it. Plenty bands can but don’t.
They secure 50-75% of the venue for fan club. Newsflash fan club is an elite way to get tickets before general public. Kudos to them for cutting those deals.
If they toured more the demand wouldn’t be as great in certain markets
Platinum ain’t going away so move on. Ain’t on them. It’s a TM/LN creation.
Everyone buys merch. How ya feel that The promoters get anywhere from 15- 25% of the sales? So we are all giving them more money.
TM/ LN are full on scams BUT until someone comes alone and buys the venues to control the system , it ain’t gonna change. The best everyone can hope for is what this band does for its fans.
Enjoy the shows if you’re going and be happy that you got your tickets for the lowest price available
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Reading these threads from a UK/Europe perspective the market manipulation/strangulation by TM seems blatant. Comparing the prices we are paying where TM have genuine competition and aren't allowed sole control of the market is eye watering.
For example my ticket to Hyde Park Friday is VIP, includes food and drink and merch. It's just under £300 ($400 ish), less than many are paying for entrance at the US gigs!
Other dates in Europe for gigs more directly akin to US dates are €65-€120 ($75-$130 ish) and these are public sale not 10C!
Honestly I think PJ have done the best they can to help fans against the stranglehold TM seems to have. It's that or no US tours, just a few fest appearances by the looks of it, and that would really cause a new level of bitching!
What other bands can you NOT resale except for “face” outside of NY and CO due to laws? That’s progress. They did it. Plenty bands can but don’t.
They secure 50-75% of the venue for fan club. Newsflash fan club is an elite way to get tickets before general public. Kudos to them for cutting those deals.
If they toured more the demand wouldn’t be as great in certain markets
Platinum ain’t going away so move on. Ain’t on them. It’s a TM/LN creation.
Everyone buys merch. How ya feel that The promoters get anywhere from 15- 25% of the sales? So we are all giving them more money.
TM/ LN are full on scams BUT until someone comes alone and buys the venues to control the system , it ain’t gonna change. The best everyone can hope for is what this band does for its fans.
Enjoy the shows if you’re going and be happy that you got your tickets for the lowest price available
For some now not to see that the locking of tickets and the F2F only option to sell is only enhancing the problem is hilarious. This is exactly how they (PJ and TM) manipulate the market. This is the start of the problem. It is not a free market. We have been lied to. Does the Ten Club have good intentions? I'd love to believe so. I just can't believe they are this ignorant while also having the best of intentions. Do they have a choice? Possibly not but, come by it honestly.
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Legitimately was stunned by Paul McCartney's $3,500 Fenway tickets a few weeks ago and now my favorite band has blown that price away.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
And waiting until the day of for ticket drops doesn't work for a large portion of people who travel for PJ shows. If it's in your hometown or a 2-3 hour drive, sure. But when you have to factor in hotels and all of that, it's hard to pull the trigger on that stuff without tickets in hand. Sucks all the way around.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Really hope this isn't the new norm on future tours.
It's here to stay I fear.
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They secure 50-75% of the venue for fan club. Newsflash fan club is an elite way to get tickets before general public. Kudos to them for cutting those deals.
Platinum ain’t going away so move on. Ain’t on them. It’s a TM/LN creation.
Wetlands 91
CBGB 91
Roseland 91
and many, many more
For example my ticket to Hyde Park Friday is VIP, includes food and drink and merch. It's just under £300 ($400 ish), less than many are paying for entrance at the US gigs!
Other dates in Europe for gigs more directly akin to US dates are €65-€120 ($75-$130 ish) and these are public sale not 10C!
Honestly I think PJ have done the best they can to help fans against the stranglehold TM seems to have. It's that or no US tours, just a few fest appearances by the looks of it, and that would really cause a new level of bitching!
"...I changed by not changing at all..."